Re: [Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
The station I was thinking of is Radio Swiss Classic. Also listen to WKSU..it was my local NPR station when I was in college, DR P2 Klassisk out of Denmark and Concertzender. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 2:59 PM Richard Cuff wrote: > It's a good one. Mostly local, with overnights from the Beethoven > Satellite Network. I do stream it on occasion. > > My own favorite for streaming is KUSC out of Los Angeles. > > RC > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:57 PM Mike Wolfson wrote: > > > > All Classical Portland is pretty good. Don't know if it's sourced here > or not though. > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 1:50 PM Richard Cuff wrote: > >> > >> Bummer. "Curated" -- i.e. hosted -- classical music radio has been on > the general decline for years. This reminds me of the re-positioning that > CBC Radio 2 has done. > >> > >> To some extent, classical music radio can be voice-tracked more easily > than other formats since the durations of individual selections often run > 10-20 minutes. > >> > >> Here in the USA nearly all commercial classical music stations are now > non-profit; many use either the "Classical 24" service from Minnesota Pubic > Radio or the "Beethoven Satellite Network" from Chicago's WFMT for much of > their broadcast day. > >> > >> RC > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:42 PM John A. Figliozzi > wrote: > >>> > >>> Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is > understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace > Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the > curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available > anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> Internetradio mailing list > >> Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > >> > >> To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > >> > >> > > ___ > > Internetradio mailing list > > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > > > > > ___ > Internetradio mailing list > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > > > ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
Re: [Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
I've had the best luck streaming classical music from Europe. Don't remember specific stations, but I think I often listen to one from Austria, sometimes BBC overnight. My preference is music with no chit chat. I use TuneIn. Sometimes will do a random search and just stream what comes up. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 2:59 PM Richard Cuff wrote: > It's a good one. Mostly local, with overnights from the Beethoven > Satellite Network. I do stream it on occasion. > > My own favorite for streaming is KUSC out of Los Angeles. > > RC > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:57 PM Mike Wolfson wrote: > > > > All Classical Portland is pretty good. Don't know if it's sourced here > or not though. > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 1:50 PM Richard Cuff wrote: > >> > >> Bummer. "Curated" -- i.e. hosted -- classical music radio has been on > the general decline for years. This reminds me of the re-positioning that > CBC Radio 2 has done. > >> > >> To some extent, classical music radio can be voice-tracked more easily > than other formats since the durations of individual selections often run > 10-20 minutes. > >> > >> Here in the USA nearly all commercial classical music stations are now > non-profit; many use either the "Classical 24" service from Minnesota Pubic > Radio or the "Beethoven Satellite Network" from Chicago's WFMT for much of > their broadcast day. > >> > >> RC > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:42 PM John A. Figliozzi > wrote: > >>> > >>> Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is > understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace > Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the > curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available > anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> Internetradio mailing list > >> Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > >> > >> To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > >> > >> > > ___ > > Internetradio mailing list > > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > > > > > ___ > Internetradio mailing list > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > > > ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
[Internetradio] Changes at the BBC
These items come from "Hot Pod", a weekly podcasting newsletter from the Nieman Lab at MIT. The Nieman Journalism Lab is out of Harvard University, and has a very interesting website and a daily media-related e-newsletter one can subscribe to. Here are two items relating to the BBC that will affect the services that we, from the heritage of shortwave listening, can appreciate: 1) "What should a public broadcaster be in the digital age? The BBC is asking, and being asked, that question" Source: https://www.niemanlab.org/2020/01/what-should-a-public-broadcaster-be-in-the-digital-age-the-bbc-is-asking-and-being-asked-that-question/ 2) "Big shifts at the BBC", embedded in this article: https://www.niemanlab.org/2020/02/is-apple-slacking-in-its-role-as-benign-overlord-of-podcasting/ Well worth your time. Richard Cuff ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
Re: [Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
It's a good one. Mostly local, with overnights from the Beethoven Satellite Network. I do stream it on occasion. My own favorite for streaming is KUSC out of Los Angeles. RC On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 5:57 PM Mike Wolfson wrote: > > All Classical Portland is pretty good. Don't know if it's sourced here or > not though. > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 1:50 PM Richard Cuff wrote: >> >> Bummer. "Curated" -- i.e. hosted -- classical music radio has been on the >> general decline for years. This reminds me of the re-positioning that CBC >> Radio 2 has done. >> >> To some extent, classical music radio can be voice-tracked more easily than >> other formats since the durations of individual selections often run 10-20 >> minutes. >> >> Here in the USA nearly all commercial classical music stations are now >> non-profit; many use either the "Classical 24" service from Minnesota Pubic >> Radio or the "Beethoven Satellite Network" from Chicago's WFMT for much of >> their broadcast day. >> >> RC >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:42 PM John A. Figliozzi >> wrote: >>> >>> Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is >>> understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace >>> Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the >>> curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available >>> anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. >>> >>> >> ___ >> Internetradio mailing list >> Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio >> >> To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to >> internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL >> shown above. >> >> > ___ > Internetradio mailing list > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL > shown above. > > ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
Re: [Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
All Classical Portland is pretty good. Don't know if it's sourced here or not though. On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 1:50 PM Richard Cuff wrote: > Bummer. "Curated" -- i.e. hosted -- classical music radio has been on the > general decline for years. This reminds me of the re-positioning that CBC > Radio 2 has done. > > To some extent, classical music radio can be voice-tracked more easily > than other formats since the durations of individual selections often run > 10-20 minutes. > > Here in the USA nearly all commercial classical music stations are now > non-profit; many use either the "Classical 24" service from Minnesota Pubic > Radio or the "Beethoven Satellite Network" from Chicago's WFMT for much of > their broadcast day. > > RC > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:42 PM John A. Figliozzi > wrote: > >> Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is >> understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace >> Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the >> curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available >> anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. >> >> >> ___ > Internetradio mailing list > Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio > > To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to > internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the > URL shown above. > > > ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
Re: [Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
Bummer. "Curated" -- i.e. hosted -- classical music radio has been on the general decline for years. This reminds me of the re-positioning that CBC Radio 2 has done. To some extent, classical music radio can be voice-tracked more easily than other formats since the durations of individual selections often run 10-20 minutes. Here in the USA nearly all commercial classical music stations are now non-profit; many use either the "Classical 24" service from Minnesota Pubic Radio or the "Beethoven Satellite Network" from Chicago's WFMT for much of their broadcast day. RC On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:42 PM John A. Figliozzi wrote: > Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is > understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace > Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the > curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available > anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. > > > ___ Internetradio mailing list Internetradio@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/internetradio To unsubscribe: Send an E-mail to internetradio-requ...@hard-core-dx.com?subject=unsubscribe, or visit the URL shown above.
[Internetradio] Fwd: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth
Big changes appear to be coming to both RNZ and RTE. This one is understandable but regrettable — especially if the plan is to replace Concert with a automated impersonal service online. Online is fine but the curated classical programming now on Concert is some of the best available anywhere. Such a loss is to be regretted anytime. John Figliozzi Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "nri3 via Groups.Io" > Date: February 4, 2020 at 11:27:52 PM EST > To: w...@groups.io > Subject: [WOR] RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth > Reply-To: w...@groups.io > > > RNZ guts Concert radio as it plans appeal to youth > From Mediawatch, 1:55 pm today > Share this > Share on Twitter > Share on Facebook > Share via email > Share on Reddit > Share on Linked In > Hayden Donnell, Mediawatch producer > In the biggest overhaul of its music services in years, RNZ is planning to > gut its classical music station RNZ Concert and replace it on FM radio with > music for a younger audience as part of a new multimedia music brand. > Mediawatch asks RNZ chief executive Paul Thompson and music content director > Willy Macalister to explain the move. > > RNZ Mediawatch's Colin Peacock interviews chief executive Paul Thompson and > head of music Willy Macalister. Photo: RNZ /Dom Thomas > Listen duration20′ :14″ Add to playlistDownload > Download as Ogg > Download as MP3 > Play Ogg in browser > Play MP3 in browser > Listen > The broadcaster is proposing to remove RNZ Concert from its FM frequencies > and transform it into an automated non-stop music station which will stream > online and play on AM radio. > > It would be replaced on FM by a service aimed at a younger, more diverse > audience as part of a new multimedia “music brand”. > > RNZ Concert would be taken off FM radio on May 29 and the youth platform > would be phased in ahead of its full launch on August 28. > > RNZ's music staff were informed about the proposed changes this morning in an > emotional, occasionally heated meeting with the RNZ music content director > Willy Macalister, head of radio and music David Allan, and chief executive > Paul Thompson. > > According to documents for staff, the move would eliminate 20 jobs at RNZ > Concert including all presenter roles from late March. > > Those would be replaced with 13 jobs at the new youth platform and four in > the downsized RNZ Concert service. > > The documents for staff say the proposed changes are aimed at securing new > audiences for RNZ. > > While its listenership is predominantly Pākehā and skewed towards older > people, the new music brand would target people aged 18 and 34 including > Māori and Pasifika audiences, the proposal says. > > > “RNZ has strong audiences but they skew older. We are thinking five and ten > years ahead. We need to start to connect with younger New Zealanders,” RNZ > chief executive Paul Thompson told Mediawatch. > > He said RNZ Concert’s classical music focus has prevented RNZ from fulfilling > its Charter’s requirement to broadcast a range of music and performances. > > “We are expanding our services off our current resources. There are some > tough choices in that but this is a really good story of RNZ getting to more > New Zealanders," he said. > > But it’s not a good story for those accustomed to a repertoire of classical > music on FM radio for many years. > > AM transmission is sub-optimal for symphonies and it will be interrupted when > Parliament sessions are broadcast on the AM network. > > “It is still available on Freeview and listening to RNZ Concert is mostly in > the home so the ability to consume it in stereo is still there,” said Willy > Macalister. > > The scaled-back Concert will offer recorded music round the clock, but few of > the RNZ Concert programmes currently on air will be made after the new music > brand is established. > > “We are in consultation over that but are going to pull back on some of it,” > said Willy Macalister. > > “We will continue to record and air concerts and support orchestras where we > can,” said Paul Thompson. > > The new service for youth > > Mediawatch understands the new youth platform would have a playlist spanning > multiple musical genres with a heavy focus on New Zealand music. It would be > active on social media. > "Genre is no longer relevant to the audience," the proposal document says. > > "We intend to be a broad proposition for everyone . . but its got to have > relevance for 18-35 year old audience," Willy Macalister told Mediawatch. > > "One of the things that streaming services have taught us is that when you > look at the top playlists, they're not necessarily talking about genres of > music. They're talking about emotional state and activities," he said. > > Last month chief executive of commercial radio industry umbrella group the > Radio Broadcasters Association - Jana Rangoon
