Re: [Internetradio] reciva.com shutting?

2020-10-26 Thread Rob de Santos via Internetradio
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Paul, 

If it is necessary to support the rescue of the database or firmware, I am 
willing to help if I can. Thanks for checking with your contacts.  I'd hate to 
see the database and support for the radios ability to work go away.

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-Rob de Santos, K8RKD
Horizons (Trends in Technology) Columnist
Contributing Editor
CQ Magazine

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From: Internetradio On Behalf Of Paul Webster
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Subject: Re: [Internetradio] reciva.com shutting?

I have a Logic IR100 (probably was the most sold internet radio in UK at the 
start) and a Tangent Quattro - both Reciva powered.

I recruited a small team of volunteers to help curate their database and handle 
lots of stream update requests in the early days - and I still have some 
editing rights there.

If they could be persuaded to handover their domain names and ideally their 
backend application then it would be feasible for someone else to run it ... 
but no money in it and I think it would be quite a lot of work.

Firmware is hackable though (see Sharpfin) so might be possible to rescue via a 
different route - still a lot of work though.

Paul Webster

> On 26 Oct 2020, at 17:01, John Figliozzi  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t aware of the firmware situation.  I assumed that all were using some 
> variant of Frontier Silicon because when their vTuner provider went dark over 
> a payment dispute their radios shifted over to Frontier’s set-up within a day 
> or two.  
> 
> I have a Pure Evoke F4 (no longer manufactured), Tivoli NetWorks (no longer 
> manufactured) and Como Audio Solo and Amico.  All run Frontier Silicon.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Paul Webster  wrote:
>> 
>> Reciva was not just a stream aggregator.
>> They also provided the entire firmware for the radios.
>> I think all of the radios that use(d) their service also ran their software.
>> 
>> A while ago Grace Digital did a deal of some sort with them and 
>> gained access to the firmware - and I suspect they could also run the 
>> back-end ... but owners of other brands may well struggle because those 
>> brands gave up long ago.
>> 
>> I have tried to contact someone who is/was at Reciva (Qualcomm) to see if I 
>> can get more information that I can share.
>> No response yet.
>> 
>> Paul Webster
>> 
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:01:41 -0400, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> Likely, the radio manufacturer will find another provider.  But this 
>>> illustrates the weak spot of the wifi radio receiver — proprietary stream 
>>> amalgamators.  What radio are you using?
>>> 
>>> John Figliozzi
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Eric Floden  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> This banner was atop their page when I logged in this morning
>>>> 
>>>> Notice: With effect from 31 January 2021 this website will be withdrawn. 
>>>> Please refer to your radio manufacturer or supplier. 
>>>> 
>>>> What does it mean? Do I need to light my hair on fire?
>>>> ___



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Re: [Internetradio] reciva.com shutting?

2020-10-26 Thread Paul Webster
I have a Logic IR100 (probably was the most sold internet radio in UK at the 
start) and a Tangent Quattro - both Reciva powered.

I recruited a small team of volunteers to help curate their database and handle 
lots of stream update requests in the early days - and I still have some 
editing rights there.

If they could be persuaded to handover their domain names and ideally their 
backend application then it would be feasible for someone else to run it ... 
but no money in it and I think it would be quite a lot of work.

Firmware is hackable though (see Sharpfin) so might be possible to rescue via a 
different route - still a lot of work though.

Paul Webster

> On 26 Oct 2020, at 17:01, John Figliozzi  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t aware of the firmware situation.  I assumed that all were using some 
> variant of Frontier Silicon because when their vTuner provider went dark over 
> a payment dispute their radios shifted over to Frontier’s set-up within a day 
> or two.  
> 
> I have a Pure Evoke F4 (no longer manufactured), Tivoli NetWorks (no longer 
> manufactured) and Como Audio Solo and Amico.  All run Frontier Silicon.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Paul Webster  wrote:
>> 
>> Reciva was not just a stream aggregator.
>> They also provided the entire firmware for the radios.
>> I think all of the radios that use(d) their service also ran their software.
>> 
>> A while ago Grace Digital did a deal of some sort with them and gained 
>> access to the firmware - and I suspect they could also
>> run the back-end ... but owners of other brands may well struggle because 
>> those brands gave up long ago.
>> 
>> I have tried to contact someone who is/was at Reciva (Qualcomm) to see if I 
>> can get more information that I can share.
>> No response yet.
>> 
>> Paul Webster
>> 
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:01:41 -0400, you wrote:
>>> 
>>> Likely, the radio manufacturer will find another provider.  But this 
>>> illustrates the weak spot of the wifi radio receiver — proprietary stream 
>>> amalgamators.  What radio are you using?
>>> 
>>> John Figliozzi
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Eric Floden  wrote:
 
 ?
 This banner was atop their page when I logged in this morning
 
 Notice: With effect from 31 January 2021 this website will be withdrawn. 
 Please refer to your radio manufacturer or supplier. 
 
 What does it mean? Do I need to light my hair on fire?
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Re: [Internetradio] reciva.com shutting?

2020-10-26 Thread Paul Webster
Reciva was not just a stream aggregator.
They also provided the entire firmware for the radios.
I think all of the radios that use(d) their service also ran their software.

A while ago Grace Digital did a deal of some sort with them and gained access 
to the firmware - and I suspect they could also
run the back-end ... but owners of other brands may well struggle because those 
brands gave up long ago.

I have tried to contact someone who is/was at Reciva (Qualcomm) to see if I can 
get more information that I can share.
No response yet.

Paul Webster

On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:01:41 -0400, you wrote:

>Likely, the radio manufacturer will find another provider.  But this 
>illustrates the weak spot of the wifi radio receiver — proprietary stream 
>amalgamators.  What radio are you using?
>
>John Figliozzi
>
>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Eric Floden  wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> This banner was atop their page when I logged in this morning
>> 
>> Notice: With effect from 31 January 2021 this website will be withdrawn. 
>> Please refer to your radio manufacturer or supplier. 
>> 
>> What does it mean? Do I need to light my hair on fire?
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Re: [Internetradio] reciva.com shutting?

2020-10-26 Thread John A. Figliozzi
Likely, the radio manufacturer will find another provider.  But this 
illustrates the weak spot of the wifi radio receiver — proprietary stream 
amalgamators.  What radio are you using?

John Figliozzi

> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Eric Floden  wrote:
> 
> 
> This banner was atop their page when I logged in this morning
> 
> Notice: With effect from 31 January 2021 this website will be withdrawn. 
> Please refer to your radio manufacturer or supplier. 
> 
> What does it mean? Do I need to light my hair on fire?
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