Re: ion-3-20090110
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:45:35PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: > > This is yet another maintenance release. > I updated the gentoo ebuild, the new version can be found here: https://svn.keksbude.net/repos/keks-overlay/x11-wm/ion3/ -- "There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't." pgpa0qSEPtozd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
On 2009-01-11, Sylvain Abélard wrote: > I also heard you can find companies that replace MacBooks screens with > matte ones for $100. > FYI, the "matte screen" option is $100, only available on the biggest $2500 > Mac. Yeah, they only seem to sell matte displays on corporate-priced stuff worth more than your monthly salary. To people who want quality and are ready to pay for it. The typical idiot consumer is all wet over a 19" (wow, big number!) dragtop with a glossy (shineee! my precious!) finish. Matte display finish is like green paint: worth more than the device it is covered with. \end{army joke} (In theory e.g. the el cheapo Thinkpad SL400 should be available in matte, but all the shops only seem to carry glossy versions.) -- Dreams of the past: Computers will automate menial tasks. Paperless office. Reality: Paper forms replaced by a hundred times more electronic forms required to be filled by human slaves for management departments.
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:26 -, Sylvain Abélard wrote: Of course, you probably hate the Mac's UI and its lack of possible customizations. It certainly lacks configuration possibilities, but the multitouch gestures make mac-WM less painful. GeekBind did much about this, but does not work on the latest MacOS versions. Maybe Nick has more MacOS WM-tricks, because I'm really new to Mac. I suspect I'm just as new! The keyboard shortcuts for OS X do seem particularly difficult to remember (I have to look up screenshot and how to select the menu bar every time). I only really use OS X as a casual OS; I can't manage without ion these days; floating wms just seem a pain in comparison.
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
> If one can find an affordable notebook with a *matte* screen anymore, I share your hate of glossy screens. It's been a few harsh years. I happened to see a few matte-screen-laptops from Samsung recently, maybe you can finally find one. But then, it was quite a small-size (10 to 12") and probably widescreen resolution. I also heard you can find companies that replace MacBooks screens with matte ones for $100. FYI, the "matte screen" option is $100, only available on the biggest $2500 Mac. Of course, you probably hate the Mac's UI and its lack of possible customizations. It certainly lacks configuration possibilities, but the multitouch gestures make mac-WM less painful. GeekBind did much about this, but does not work on the latest MacOS versions. Maybe Nick has more MacOS WM-tricks, because I'm really new to Mac. Good luck, -- Sylvain Abélard "J'ai décidé d'être heureux, c'est meilleur pour la santé." -Voltaire
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:39:16 -, Klaus Umbach wrote: On my desktop box: Terminal emulator: roxterm Text editor: vim Mail: Opera Browser: Opera IM: bitlbee via irssi Video-Player: mplayer Audio-Player: vlc or mplayer Display Manager: gdm or xdm IRC: irssi Shell: bash Calculator: python Dock: none Backup: rsync/ssh other stuff: screen, xscreensaver On my laptop I have OS X :) Terminal emulator: Terminal.app Text editor: vim Mail: n/a Browser: Opera IM: ssh to desktop screen with bitlbee/irssi Video-Player: vkc Audio-Player: vlc Display Manager: n/a IRC: ssh to desktop screen with irssi Shell: bash Calculator: python Dock: Dock Backup: rsync/ssh other stuff: Chicken of the VNC, Adium (on occasion), VirtualBox
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
Klaus Umbach (el 2009-01-11 a les 17:39:16 +0100) va dir:: > Just out of curiosity, I'm interessted in what you are using on your > desktop/notebook. I just want to have new ideas. Maybe other ion3 users > have the same needs as I, but found better solutions. I guess we'll see lots of interesting coincidences in this thread... * Terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode * Text editor: vim & emacs * Mail: mutt, studying mairix for indexing until tracker does Maildir * Browser: Firefox + It's All Text + lots of incremental search + profiles * RSS reader: used to use newsbeuter * Calendar: remind + wyrd * Notes: emacs muse * Video player: VLC * Audio player: MPD + mpdscrible + ncmpc, sometimes MOC, lastfm * IM: pidgin * Dock: trayion * Others: xwrits (one instance for micropauses, one for long rests), unclutter, xscreensaver (black screen), tracker * Backup: unison, rdiff-backup I no longer use it, but the giFT project had an extraordinarily elegant P2P client called giFTcurs that would be nice to see revived (at least in spirit). :: Ivan Vilata i Balaguer @ Intellectual property is the worst offense @ http://www.selidor.net/ @against human intelligence. @ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
On 2009-01-11, Klaus Umbach wrote: > Hi, > Just out of curiosity, I'm interessted in what you are using on your > desktop/notebook. I just want to have new ideas. Maybe other ion3 users > have the same needs as I, but found better solutions. Windows 7. If it's come out when I get a notebook. If one can find an affordable notebook with a *matte* screen anymore, when I finally need a mobile computer; right now I don't. Glossy *trinkets* attract the herd like fly traps attract flies, and so it's hard to find anything that doesn't hurt your eyes anymore. Another thing I've noticed is that even tabletops tend to come with _shitty_ laptop-like keyboards these days with too short movement of the keys to be comfortable to type. But the herd is happy with them, and so all the time it becomes more and more trouble to find even something half-decent -- that was standard a few years before -- let alone something actually good. Yes, W7 is Hitlery [1], but better than Vista (or Modern Linux, and worse than XP or Old Unix. But you need Modern OS to run a Modern Browser to use Modern Internet Services, etc. All of them shit, but all the time getting more complicated to live without. Unfortunately.) All the glyphs look like swastikas, they're so blurred [2]. They've actually finally _removed_ the option to disable font blurring from the panel where it was easily accessible in XP, and which you had to hunt a bit in Vista, and even after then didn't disable all blurring. They've added a Smeartype tuner that lets you choose between a zillion types of blurring, but not to disable it altogether. But it still seems to be possible to disable blurring by a) switching to a theme with non-shitty fonts, e.g., the W98-lookalike (Segui UI is shit), and b) setting some FontSmoothing values in the registry to zero. (However, switching the theme resets them.) Other than that, W7 seems clearly faster than Vista -- it's even usable in VMWare after some initial disk crunching on my Athlon XP 2500+ / 768MB. The sorry attempts at tiling by throwing the window to the side of the screen seem like they could be quite nice on a tablet, but clearly doesn't scale due to lack of tabbing. The Ribbon UI actually seems like it could be quite nice if it served as _documentation_, displaying the keys corresponding to the buttons etc. when e.g. a modifier is pressed. But of course, since Vista, Windows has _hidden_ all the keyboard shortcut (*beep* the term "shortcut" implies fundamentally flawed design) by default; you've had to enable them fron the accessibility options in the control panel. > Terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode pfft. xterm. > Text editor: vim pfft. joe. (joe.sf.net) > Mail: mutt with offlineimap and lbdb to read my Palm's addressbook. > Browser: Firefox with "It's All Text", "vimperator" and "FireGestures" All browsers that can the technological shithole of the World (Wide Web), can do nothing but suck, but Opera sucks the least. > Audio-Player: amarok (looking for something better with ipod, DAAP and > podcast-support!) http://moc.daper.net/ A simple player that lets me use the file system for organising my music, instead of reinventing the wheel and enforcing an aoverbearing playlist system. (The ever so popular mpd sucks donkey balls.) I've heard good words about foobar2000, though. > Calculator: bc bc? What use is it? Try calc. (Probably http://sourceforge.net/projects/calc/ as I get ~$ calc -v C-style arbitrary precision calculator (version 2.12.1.5) ) > Backup: rsnapshot I've yet to find a backup tool that wouldn't suck. For *nix anyway. Using duplicity ATM (to another local disk), because I had plans of a network backup. But it can't handle file moves sanely, i.e., just storing the action, not a new copy of the file. Brackup seemed like it would be nice, being based on hashes, but it's just broken. But *nix has got these inode numbers which would really suffice... [1]: http://xkcd.com/528/ [2]: http://iki.fi/tuomov/b/archives/2008/03/20/T13_47_17/ -- "[Fashion] is usually a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months." -- Oscar Wilde "The computer industry is the only industry that is more fashion-driven than women's fashion." -- RMS
Re: [SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
> Terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode I use mlterm and have also found xterm to be an alternative. > IM: psi (+ skype) I use Pidgin and Freetalk. Judging from your other apps and setup you might like Freetalk. > Audio-Player: amarok (looking for something better with ipod, DAAP and > podcast-support!) Yeah, all currently available music players suck in some way or another. > Display Manager: xdm There are some slim alternative login managers. > Calculator: bc Try 'calc'[1]. Leslie [1] http://www.isthe.com/chongo/tech/comp/calc/ -- LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/polzer Xing Profile: https://www.xing.com/profile/LeslieP_Polzer Blog: http://blog.viridian-project.de/
[SEMI-OT] Applications in a typical ion3 desktop environment
Hi, Just out of curiosity, I'm interessted in what you are using on your desktop/notebook. I just want to have new ideas. Maybe other ion3 users have the same needs as I, but found better solutions. Here is my list: Terminal emulator: rxvt-unicode Text editor: vim Mail: mutt with offlineimap and lbdb to read my Palm's addressbook. Browser: Firefox with "It's All Text", "vimperator" and "FireGestures" IM: psi (+ skype) Video-Player: mplayer Audio-Player: amarok (looking for something better with ipod, DAAP and podcast-support!) Display Manager: xdm IRC: irssi Shell: zsh Calculator: bc Dock: docker Backup: rsnapshot other stuff: gkrellm, xfce-mcs-manager, xscreensaver (bsod), unclutter, gnupod, jpilot and only on the Netbook: gnome-power-manager, bluetooth-applet, nm-applet Screenshot: http://www.sozial-inkompetent.de/ion3/cyberdeck.png Cheers Treibholz -- BOFH excuse #169: broadcast packets on wrong frequency