[IP] Kabuki theatre / DHS, etymology of Heimatschutz since Goeebels
Begin forwarded message: From: Erich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 2, 2006 5:20:17 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kabuki theatre / DHS, etymology of Heimatschutz since Goeebels Dave, Here is the article published this morning at orf.at Website. US-Heimatschutz als Kabuki-Theater http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/140470/ As to the title of the story I feel compelled to add a comment or two by a native speaker of German. When the Departement of Homeland Security in the USA was founded German speaking journalists faced a dilemma. How could we possibly translate that? Correctly that would be Ministerium fuer Heimatsicherheit. In Austrian and German ears that sounds 100 percent Goebbels. Additionallly the secret service Stasi of communist Germany was an acronym of the Ministerium fuer Staatssicherheit. We can't do that the Ami [as Americans are commonly named here], was the gist of the discussion. They may sometimes behave, especially currently, like elephants in a microprocessor factory, but they do not deserve that translation. What else? Heimatlandsicherheit? Says the same and sounds clumsy. So more or less all German speaking journalists decided to go for Ministerium fuer Heimatschutz. This is still the shortest and least pejorative translation for DHS one can find. Not as aggressive as the other, but denoting something like home-made, rugged, hillbilly style in addition. From 1934 untill 1938 when Austria was ruled by a homegrown clerical/ fascist regime dominated by Catholic fanatics the word Heimatschutz was much used. Again, when the Nazis were at their ende and the war was soon over. Ahem yes, no offense meant. This is a real life matter. Good night from Vienna Erich M. US-Heimatschutz als Kabuki-Theater http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/140470/ -- pgp-Key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE386BAA1 - You are subscribed as archive@mail-archive.com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
[IP] Kabuki theatre / DHS, etymology of Heimatschutz since Goeebels
Begin forwarded message: From: Erich M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: October 2, 2006 5:20:17 PM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kabuki theatre / DHS, etymology of Heimatschutz since Goeebels Dave, Here is the article published this morning at orf.at Website. US-Heimatschutz als Kabuki-Theater http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/140470/ As to the title of the story I feel compelled to add a comment or two by a native speaker of German. When the Departement of Homeland Security in the USA was founded German speaking journalists faced a dilemma. How could we possibly translate that? Correctly that would be Ministerium fuer Heimatsicherheit. In Austrian and German ears that sounds 100 percent Goebbels. Additionallly the secret service Stasi of communist Germany was an acronym of the Ministerium fuer Staatssicherheit. We can't do that the Ami [as Americans are commonly named here], was the gist of the discussion. They may sometimes behave, especially currently, like elephants in a microprocessor factory, but they do not deserve that translation. What else? Heimatlandsicherheit? Says the same and sounds clumsy. So more or less all German speaking journalists decided to go for Ministerium fuer Heimatschutz. This is still the shortest and least pejorative translation for DHS one can find. Not as aggressive as the other, but denoting something like home-made, rugged, hillbilly style in addition. From 1934 untill 1938 when Austria was ruled by a homegrown clerical/ fascist regime dominated by Catholic fanatics the word Heimatschutz was much used. Again, when the Nazis were at their ende and the war was soon over. Ahem yes, no offense meant. This is a real life matter. Good night from Vienna Erich M. US-Heimatschutz als Kabuki-Theater http://futurezone.orf.at/it/stories/140470/ -- pgp-Key http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xE386BAA1 - You are subscribed as archive@mail-archive.com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
