RE: Poll on SMTP over IPv6 Usage

2014-02-13 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
C) Because our current vendor does not support it and anti-spam is seen as 
mandatory within the business. 

/JF
 

RE: MTU handling in 6RD deployments

2014-01-07 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
Hi Tore. 

 Does anyone know what tricks, if any, the major 6RD deployments (ATT,
 Free, Swisscom, others?) are using to alleviate any problems stemming
 from the reduced IPv6 MTU? Some possibilities that come to mind are:
 
 * Having the 6RD CPE lower the TCP MSS value of SYN packets as they
 enter/exit the tunnel device
 * Having the 6RD BR lower the TCP MSS value in the same way as above
 * Having the 6RD CPE advertise a lowered MTU to the LAN in RA Options
 * Several (or all) of the above in combination

Our managed CPEs (D-Links) send (IPv4 MTU) - 20 bytes in RAs, usually 
1480.

In the list of tricks, you might want to add: 
* Slightly raise the ICMPv6 rate-limit values for your 6RD BR (we do 
50/20)

I haven't seen IPv6 MSS clamping in the wild yet (it was discussed on 
this list a year ago). 

 Also, given that some ISPs offer [only] Layer-2 service and expect/allow
 their customers to bring their own Layer-3 home gateway if they want
 one, I would find it interesting to learn if any of the most common
 off-the-shelf home gateway products (that enable 6RD by default) also
 implement any such tricks by default or not.

From off-the-shelf, we see mostly D-Links and Cisco/Linksys/Belkin 
with option 212 support. A few Asus models started showing up in the 
stats in 2013 I believe. Last time I checked, all models supporting 
option 212 also reduced their MTU properly (YMMV here, that was almost a 
year ago).

Too bigs remain quite common however... 
#sh ipv6 traffic | in too
   11880 encapsulation failed, 0 no route, 3829023354 too big
#sh ver | in upt
uptime is 2 years, 4 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 3 minutes

If 6lab's data is right, roughly half of Canada's IPv6 users go through 
that box (50k users).

/JF



Re: MTU handling in 6RD deployments

2014-01-07 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
 De : Gert Doering g...@space.net
 
 Have a higher IPv4 MTU between the 6rd tunnel endpoints  sounds like
 a nice solution an ISP could deploy.

Docsis MTU is 1518 bytes, so that won't happen any time soon in the cable 
world. 
(Docsis 3.1 is higher at 2000 bytes, but that's years away)

/JF