Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-T615 Ultraadvanced Ultralight-- First Impressions

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Nick,

CX have improved. Before 0800, I already had JOAR-1053, JOLF-1242,
JOHR-1287 oming in fairly wel.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott,

I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
knows? But of course a year ago doesn't count for much today. That was
much earlier on and IBOC has had more than another year to pove itself
and so far it has not done so. Probably another year, it will be losing
more ground too. We can hope so.  Maybe we should all look at the date
of an article first. It would be interesting to see what a current
writer feels about it. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] SRF-59 Eats IBOC For Supper!

2007-12-27 Thread D1028Gary
Hello Patrick,
 
 Yes, phasing seems to be the ultimate solution for  the IBOC disease, 
and I'm happy you can make KEX, KDZR, etc. disappear. I have  Gerry Thomas' 
Quantum Phaser and it works well, but some of the newer pocket  radios like the 
SRF-59 have some wicked new nulling ability that can put  both regular locals 
and IBOC into the dust.  The S5W was my long-time  nulling champion, but this 
$15 SRF-59 can actually equal or exceed its  performance, for some bizarre 
reason.
 
 Speaking of the Quantum Phaser, Kevin of  Bainbridge Island has 
developed an audio phasing technique which could give  Gerry some serious 
competion.  
It combines the audio outputs of two  identical radios (SRF-59's) to cancel 
out a local pest's signal, while leaving  the DX signal untouched.  His report 
should appear in DXM before long, I  would presume.  At a cost of $30 for two 
SRF-59's, Kevin's technique would  be perfect for TP-DXers having a local 
nuisance (like KJR-950 covering 954,  etc).
 
  
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to apologize to the list manager
 and all the readers that have been knotted up
 by this post.
 
 I did not see the date on the article before I
 posted my mini-rant.
 
 Way too much bandwidth has been consumed on a subject
 that has been talked to death.
 
 IBOC is obviously not going to catch on - at least
 on the AM Band.
 
 Let's get back to talking about what is really important;
 the future...
 


Colin's statements above are equally appropriate for me to sign onto as
well. The content of the piece, when viewed ( albeit erroneously ) as
current, presents a very different picture.

Russ Edmunds
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AM: Hammarlund HQ-150  4' FET air core loop


  

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, Scott, from the article I read, I would NEVER
hire him at a station I owned due to factual errors.  

HD is not by any stretch of the imagination and never
stood for that. It's not CD qualityh or even NEAR CD
quality.  

AM HD at night erodes a lot of the local groundwave
coverage of stations. We already knew that in 2004. 
When I went out west, I drove through Nashville at
night twice. WLAC has *S E V E R E*  IBOC interference
from then WSAI, now WCKY.  There was only a fairly
narrow and small area on I-40 that WLAC was somewhat
noise free. Otherwise there was a VERY annoying hiss
in the background through the city limits. Just beyond
that WLAC became rapidly unpleasant to listen to and
then just unlistenable, and within primary ground
coverage. WLAC though normally super strong in
Silverstreet is badly hissed up. I've lost WBT at
night! Jerry Dowd at WBT is not very happy at all. 

As for FM, EVEN with an outside FM antenna on the
inside ( ask Kevin Redding about my set up ) I have a
hard time getting decoding. The 1% power level for
digital on FM is too low. The proposed going to 10%
will cover better with a major jump in interference. 

And I'm sorry to inform IRA, the rules of nature don't
bow to HD radio. There will be skywave, there ARE  NOT
any antennas that don't have skywave. You can't order
a K9 A400 solar conditioin just because you want to
run HD.

Yeah, wanna run HD full power? Fine! Cut off your
analog NOW and go all digital. 


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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread kevin redding
 Yeah, wanna run HD full power? Fine! Cut off your
 analog NOW and go all digital.

Thats what I have been saying for along time. If IBOC is that great,  
cut off the analog and run pure digital and don't dally about it. Hit  
the switch and go for it IBOC lovers. At least it wont mess up  
adjacent channels that way.

Kevin
Gilbert, AZ

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Re: [IRCA] SRF-59 Eats IBOC For Supper!

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Gary,

The audio phasing is an interesting aspect I have been following. Then
two communication receivers could be used for the same purpose I
presume. The beauty of RF phasing is totally getting rid of the QRM.
With audio phasing you would still be left with the RF I would think,
even phasing the audio, but with both types of phasing, it might be
better.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Kevin,

Going all digital is not going to happen, as IBOC has no audience. If
stations would do that today, would have no listeners. That is why they
did not go after another band and all. They wanted it In Band On
Channel so people could move over to HD without losing the analog. They
knew from the beginning that it would not be an easy move, as we knew
from the beginning it probably would not work at all. People are not
interested as there are too many other choices that are much better. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Neil Kazaross
Scott,

Almost none of us were aware that this was an article from over a year ago 
when we posted our comments about it. I, like most others assumed that it 
was recently (ie this week) written, which to me, makes it laughable inlight 
of what is now being experienced with HD IBOC.

73 KAZ

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article


 Patrick Martin wrote:
 Scott,

 I do not want to attack any person, but if the article is flawed, then
 we have a right to attack that. I do not know the person, but anyone who
 finds IBOC flaw free, there is something wrong with the picture. As we
 all know IBOC has plenty of flaws.
 I do not want any personal attacks on the list and that is one important
 rule here, but we do have the right to disagree with nonsense printed
 about any radio related subject incluing IBOC.

 No argument there - as long as the disagreement remains focused on the
 IDEAS, not on the individual proposing them.

 It's remarkable (and somewhat disappointing) to me how quickly the
 response to this truly irrelevant and outdated article turned into
 snipes aimed directly at the individual who wrote it, including utterly
 unsupported allegations that he was being paid under the table by
 Ibiquity and that he was writing under a pen name as some sort of front.
  There's no call for that.

 You're quite correct, Patrick, when you say we all know IBOC has plenty
 of flaws. We do indeed all know that, and the lack of momentum in the
 industry for the AM IBOC system is very rapidly proving us all accurate.
 Piling on to a commentary that was pretty generally ignored by the
 industry a year and a half ago doesn't make us look any more accurate -
 just a bit silly and desperate, when there's no need for silliness or
 desperation.

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Re: [IRCA] TP?

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Nick,

I was not up at LSR this morning, but at 1635 UTC, there was still
decent activity.

1593-CNR1-S5
1584-UNID-threshold
1575-VOA-S7
1566-HLAZ-S9
1557-UNID-threshold
1548-UNID-threshold
1512-UNID-threshold
1476-Russia-S3
1467-Rep. Korea-S3
1422-JORF-S5
1413-JOIF-S3
1404-UNID-threshold
1368-UNID-KAST splash
1359-UNID-threshold
1332-JOSF-S4
1314-JOUF-S3
1287-JOHR-S3
1242-JOLF-S2
1188-HLKX-S3
1179-JOOR-S2
1134-JOQR-S2/splatter
1098-UNID-threshold
1053-JOAR-S3
1017-UNID-threshold
1008-UNID-threshold
954-JOKR-S2 (presumed)

The bottom of the band there was little. Infact no 774 or 747. The best
of the lot probably was JORF 1422. 

Drake R8
NW EWE
WSW EWE
Quantum Phasing unit

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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Karl,

Happy Holidays to you and your family too.
With your comment on XM, you hit the nail on the head.  That is where
a lot of listeners are going, Sirius and XM, not IBOC. 
   I wonder how many listeners stations have lost because of IBOC hash?
Also I am sure there is some lost revenue too.

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin,
 
 Going all digital is not going to happen, as IBOC
 has no audience. If
 stations would do that today, would have no
 listeners. That is why they
 did not go after another band and all.


Actually they [being the broadcasters] were gung ho
for an all digital band. That is, until they found out
all of the stations in a market would have equal power
and coverage. And that realization stopped THAT. 


 They wanted
 it In Band On
 Channel so people could move over to HD without
 losing the analog. They
 knew from the beginning that it would not be an easy
 move, as we knew
 from the beginning it probably would not work at
 all.


Again my above statement stands. 



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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Neil Kazaross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott,
 
 Almost none of us were aware that this was an
 article from over a year ago 
 when we posted our comments about it. I, like most
 others assumed that it 
 was recently (ie this week) written, which to me,
 makes it laughable inlight 
 of what is now being experienced with HD IBOC.


I saw the date.  A lot of what was wrong thenis
still wrong now.  



Powell



  
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[IRCA] My SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

Seems to not be as sensitive as I think it should be.
I'll try to find another one. 


Powell

  
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
That would have been the best move to have a separate all digital band
and leave the AM band alone. If down the road, the broadcasters wanted
to shut off their analog and go strickly digital, then ok, as the
Canadians are moving their stations to FM. But our friends to the North
are not messing up the AM band in the process as we are doing here. The
listeners could buy a radio that had the all digital band. They still
will have to buy a new radio anyway if they want IBOC. 

73,

Patrick 

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[IRCA] column on FM ( AM antennas) for casual listeners / fyi

2007-12-27 Thread Eric Floden
this might be of interest, from Seattle P-I

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/344938_radiobeat27.html

 On Radioon Radio: Keep experimenting to get better reception

By BILL VIRGIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
P-I REPORTER

Seattle is tough on FM radio signals. With hills, valleys, buildings and
tunnels, getting good reception can be a challenge for listeners.

Local radio stations try to deal with the challenges by moving to high
ground, which is why so many transmitters cluster atop Cougar Mountain or
the even taller West Tiger Mountain. Others use translators to fill holes in
their coverage area; KMTT-FM/103.7, for example, has an alternate signal for
downtown listeners, broadcast from the Metropolitan Park office towers, at
103.3.

And some listeners give up trying to get a signal over the air and rely on
cable-television services that also provide FM station signals.

Which is fine as long as the cable company offers the service. A change in
one company's offerings prompted this lament from a reader:

Any clues on how to improve our FM reception? I bought an antenna at Radio
Shack but no signal improvement, and I've tried a 'co-ax' cable run up a
wall with equally negative results. We live in a downtown condo. What else
can we do?

For some advice on how listeners can improve reception, as well as a primer
on how and why radio signals behave as they do in these parts, we turn to
Clay Freinwald, a 40-year-plus veteran of the broadcasting business who
handles engineering tasks for Entercom's radio stations in this region as
well as for KING-FM and Bustos Media; he's also a director of the Seattle
chapter of the Society of Broadcast Engineers.

Freinwald confirms that the region's topography creates headaches for
broadcasters and listeners alike. This area is cursed with having a lot of
topographic variation, he said.

That doesn't automatically mean that listeners on the other side of a hill
from a transmitter can't hear anything. The idea that FM signals are purely
line-of-sight phenomena is an urban legend mixed with a contraction of
physics, Freinwald said. You can be in your home, you can't see Cougar or
Tiger Mountain, but you can receive FM just fine. ... Radio signals will
reflect (off buildings) and refract.

But that bouncing and bending has limitations. If you're trying to pick up
an FM signal while on the far side of Alki, with 500 feet of earth to your
back, your FM reception is going to be putrid, Freinwald said.

Radio broadcasters try to mitigate some of topography's effects by getting
as high as they can. The higher you go, the less shadow there is, he said.
KUOW-FM/94.9 is one of the last major holdouts on Capitol Hill, which gives
it great downtown coverage but limited reach around the region, he added.

Radio listeners in the country have been known to rig up all sorts of
external antennas in odd locations to get a better signal, Freinwald said.
For those who live in downtown buildings, aiming at an east-facing window
may help (since that's the direction most FM transmitters are located).
Apartment buildings often used to have a common rooftop antenna that
individual units could connect to, and some similar arrangement might work.
(KUOW's Web site suggests such steps as moving the radio to a different room
or connecting to an outdoor antenna or amplifier to boost the signal.)

Reception can also vary by radio, since not all radios are made alike,
Freinwald said. Some are made for difficult situations.

Another possibility: HD radio, a digital technology that delivers both more
channels and a better signal. It is wonderful, especially in downtown areas
where FM signals turn to mush because of a phenomenon known as multipath
(defined as the same station's signal reaching an antenna via several
routes, sometimes at slightly different times). The only drawback is that HD
doesn't operate at as much power as conventional analog signals.

What about AM radio? Early sets had a place to connect an external aerial;
since AM waves are longer than FM you need a lot of surface area to
properly capture the desired station.

Eventually radio manufacturers came up with internal aerials, which meant
an awful lot of compromise, Freinwald said. The art of the (outside)
aerial has been lost.

There is a work-around for listeners. Freinwald suggests placing the radio
next to the telephone, or even coiling the phone cord and setting the radio
on it, or under it, depending on what works best. What you're doing is
borrowing the telephone line, through the properties of induction, as an
antenna. Properly positioned, That radio will leap to life, he said.

Perhaps the best advice available is to keep experimenting. As both
broadcasters and listeners know, Freinwald said, Radio signals do quirky
things.
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Re: [IRCA] column on FM ( AM antennas) for casual listeners / fyi

2007-12-27 Thread Pete Taylor
Eric Floden, thanks for posting the Bill Virgin column out of the  
Seattle P-I. Two comments:

(1) Clay Freinwald signed my verie from the-then 1480 KLAY which I  
heard here in Tacoma on 12/29/81. Yes, it is local DX, but we are in  
NE Tacoma and the 1480 signal (now KNTB) is really lousy over here.
(2) Interesting to note that the he does not mention anything at all  
about HD radio for AM...

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[IRCA] Drift Net DX Update From Northern Delaware

2007-12-27 Thread Peter Jernakoff

Drift net DX update from northern Delaware:

One more new one from about a week ago. (I'm still grinding through some
leftover SDR-IQ recordings.)

19-Dec-07 // 1800 local // 1310 khz. // WTTL // 1.5 kw day // Madisonville,
KY // GY-like jumble then quick, faint ID by male: ...1310, WTTL,
Madisonville. // New. A 662 mile catch. Presumably still on the 'big rig'.
I'm pleased with this one!!

MP3 clip available here:

http://www.21centimeter.com/21centimeter/Recordings/1310-khz_1800-Local_12-19-07_WTTL_Madisonville_KY.mp3

Regards,

-Peter Jernakoff-
K3KMS
Wilmington, Delaware
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Re: [IRCA] Cigarette Lighter TP?

2007-12-27 Thread D1028Gary
Nick and Others,
 
 The TP conditions around 1000 UTC this early  morning were the best here 
for the last two weeks.  JOAK-594 and JOIB-747  were both coming in with 
decent audio, and even JOUB-774 was audible under the  KTTH slop.  I grabbed 
the 
tiny new Sony flagship Ultralight SRF-T615, and  after some quick user 
education on its amazing functions, proceeded to deploy it  on 594, the 
strongest of 
the TP's.  The extremely tiny  (cigarette-lighter sized) digital wonder must 
have been rather homesick for the  land of its birth, because it proceeded to 
get a trace of Japanese  by maxing out its analog volume control!
 
 Obviously, these pocket-radio TP experiences are  not conducive for 
sound sleep.  Despite this, I wish all the other TP  DXers could enjoy this 
same 
euphoric feeling of insomnia.
 
  73 and Best 
Wishes,
 
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Scott Fybush
Neil Kazaross wrote:
 Scott,
 
 Almost none of us were aware that this was an article from over a year ago 
 when we posted our comments about it. I, like most others assumed that it 
 was recently (ie this week) written, which to me, makes it laughable inlight 
 of what is now being experienced with HD IBOC.

And that's somehow an excuse for making potentially libelous accusations 
that the author of the article is taking handouts from Ibiquity?

Sorry...I still belive, despite the ample evidence to the contrary that 
this discussion is bringing out, that we as DXers are better than that.

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Scott Fybush
Patrick Martin wrote:

 I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
 IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
 If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
 knows? 

These statements are all entirely correct...which continues to beg the 
question: if there's nothing we as DXers can do except wait it out, why 
do some of us get SO very worked up by any bit of even vaguely pro-IBOC 
writing that gets forwarded to the list, regardless of the source or the 
date on it?

As someone who writes for several industry trade publications (Radio 
World until recently, Radio Journal for a while now, and soon Radio 
Guide as well), I can tell you that most of these articles make 
precisely zero impact on the industry.

How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had 
anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially on 
this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed 
endlessly, and to what point?

s
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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

http://radiostationworld.com/locations/united_states_of_america/south_carolina/radio.asp?n=gre

I found it here and a new WEBSITE to boot! Thanks for making me work for it.

Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:59:51 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
 Subject: Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!
 
 Bert,
 WAZS, Summerville, SC is just outside of Charleston.  Rocket 980.  Oldies
 format.
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[IRCA] IBOC AM TAGALONG

2007-12-27 Thread Pete Taylor
It seems to me that if sets are available with HD for both AM and FM,  
and if the FM, as noted by several writers, is superior, then AM  
could simply go along for the ride and possibly result in more HD AM  
stations. However, it all gets back to what has been emphasized again  
and again: if the programming isn't there, then there's no reason to  
bother listening to AM regardless of the quality.

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ICF2010 +
DX398; Palomar loop
SRF-59






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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Hawkins
I almost think its funny.  Somebody says IBOC and everybody starts sending
emails at a frantic pace.  Pavlov's Dog lives!



On Dec 27, 2007 12:44 PM, Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Patrick Martin wrote:

  I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
  IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
  If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
  knows?

 These statements are all entirely correct...which continues to beg the
 question: if there's nothing we as DXers can do except wait it out, why
 do some of us get SO very worked up by any bit of even vaguely pro-IBOC
 writing that gets forwarded to the list, regardless of the source or the
 date on it?

 As someone who writes for several industry trade publications (Radio
 World until recently, Radio Journal for a while now, and soon Radio
 Guide as well), I can tell you that most of these articles make
 precisely zero impact on the industry.

 How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had
 anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially on
 this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed
 endlessly, and to what point?

 s
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Bill Harms
Scott, you asked a question and here is an answer, here it is.  As has 
been stated before here and many other places countless times, it is not 
the delivery system that is the problem, rather it is WHAT is being 
delivered.  I asked my 22-year old son a little bit ago if he ever 
listens to radio, he said no. I asked him why, he said there is 
nothing there to listen to. I asked him if there was something there 
that you wanted would he listen, he said yes.

Yes this is an anecdote and problem doesn't prove that much. But how 
many times is this story repeated across this country. Yes, there is 
room for niche broadcasting, but how about the younger folks? How are 
the stations faring with this segment of the population compared to the 
past?

Scott, you know me well enough to understand that I like 
radio-in-general.  I am a tower chaser like you and I am a radio 
historian as well.  I am a DXer, last of all. DXing is just and offshoot 
of my love of radio. I would like to see radio be viable, but it is 
becoming less and less so. I have to wonder if it will eventually die. 
(I am talking about the AM and FM bands.) It might survive in a 
different form.

Regards
Bill Harms


Scott Fybush wrote:
 Patrick Martin wrote:
 
 I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
 IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
 If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
 knows? 
 
 These statements are all entirely correct...which continues to beg the 
 question: if there's nothing we as DXers can do except wait it out, why 
 do some of us get SO very worked up by any bit of even vaguely pro-IBOC 
 writing that gets forwarded to the list, regardless of the source or the 
 date on it?
 
 As someone who writes for several industry trade publications (Radio 
 World until recently, Radio Journal for a while now, and soon Radio 
 Guide as well), I can tell you that most of these articles make 
 precisely zero impact on the industry.
 
 How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had 
 anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially on 
 this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed 
 endlessly, and to what point?
 
 s

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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Gil Stacy
Bert,
WAZS, Summerville, SC is just outside of Charleston.  Rocket 980.  Oldies
format.
Gil
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Re: [IRCA] IBOC AM TAGALONG

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Pete Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to me that if sets are available with HD for both AM and FM,
  
 and if the FM, as noted by several writers, is superior, then AM  
 could simply go along for the ride and possibly result in more HD AM 
 
 stations. However, it all gets back to what has been emphasized again
  
 and again: if the programming isn't there, then there's no reason to 
 
 bother listening to AM regardless of the quality.
 



To your first point, I believe that was the intent, but your second
point clearly illustrates one of the reasons why the receivers aren't selling.

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[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
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FM: Yamaha T-80  Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

I thought they had a Spanish format. I looked at Summerville and should have 
put 2 and 2 together, but I failed to do so. It does make sense now. Thanks!

Bert
KI4SYC

Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:59:51 -0500
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 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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 Bert,
 WAZS, Summerville, SC is just outside of Charleston.  Rocket 980.  Oldies
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Re: [IRCA] Cigarette Lighter TP?

2007-12-27 Thread satya
Hey Gary:

Sois the sensitivity and selectiviy such that it is a 59 with PLL? 
Stop teasing and tell us!

Kevin



  Obviously, these pocket-radio TP experiences are  not conducive for
 sound sleep.  Despite this, I wish all the other TP  DXers could enjoy
 this same
 euphoric feeling of insomnia.

   73 and Best
 Wishes,

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had 
 anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially
 on 
 this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed 
 endlessly, and to what point?
 


Which was pretty much the initial reaction to the article from many
prior to being set straight on the date. Since it was the same old
stuff apparently being put out there, it elicited the same old
responses. 



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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Neil Kazaross wrote:
  Scott,
  
  Almost none of us were aware that this was an article from over a
 year ago 
  when we posted our comments about it. I, like most others assumed
 that it 
  was recently (ie this week) written, which to me, makes it
 laughable inlight 
  of what is now being experienced with HD IBOC.
 
 And that's somehow an excuse for making potentially libelous
 accusations 
 that the author of the article is taking handouts from Ibiquity?
 
 Sorry...I still belive, despite the ample evidence to the contrary
 that 
 this discussion is bringing out, that we as DXers are better than
 that.
 
 s


Sorry, but I think you've overstepped here. Since when is it libellous
to suggest that someone who is a self-described free-lancer might have
received payment from an interested party to write something on their
behalf ??? Or, since when is it libellous to suggest that someone might
be writing under a psuedonym ??



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[IRCA] DX Tip for WDXR

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
1340KWLEWA, Anacortes, new format and call noted with oldies, ex
Nos, This is the new KWLE Into Rikki Don't Lose The Number by Steely
Dan at 1725 EST 12/27.

Drake R8
SW EWE
WNW EWE
Quantum Phaser

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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Hey, I still use cassette for my DX. I dub onto CD to send the report
out though. I have reel to reel (3 machines). I don't use them much as
they need cleaning. How about a Wire Recorder? I had one of those back
in the 60s.

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
I wonder which of us recorded DX onto a wax cylinder?

On Dec 27, 2007 3:46 PM, Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about a Wire Recorder? I had one of those back
 in the 60s.


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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
With the advent of XM and Sirius, people are spoiled with less ads and
talk too. Will they go back to radio with wall to wall ads and talk? Let
alone IBOC. I have friends that hardly ever listen to radio any longer.
They used to, but now they have XM. But on the other side of the coin,
is the wonderful job local KAST (IBOC free) did during our recent storm.
Tom Freel, OM, his comment on IBOC, Why bother, especially on AM. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] XM Sirius was Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Neil Kazaross
Well lets see. Wife has Sirius in her new car. Never listens to FM anymore 
unless it was a specifc Xmas mx station. Only listens to AM for news or 
traffic or Blackhawks hockey. Daughter likes Radio Disney now and prefers in 
on Sirius as it comes in better and sounds better than Chicago's.

The long and short of it that Sirius i son about 85% in my wife's car and 
she does tons of driving.

73 KAZ
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article


 With the advent of XM and Sirius, people are spoiled with less ads and
 talk too. Will they go back to radio with wall to wall ads and talk? Let
 alone IBOC. I have friends that hardly ever listen to radio any longer.
 They used to, but now they have XM. But on the other side of the coin,
 is the wonderful job local KAST (IBOC free) did during our recent storm.
 Tom Freel, OM, his comment on IBOC, Why bother, especially on AM.

 73,

 Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott,

I cannot speak for others, but myself, it bugs me that IBOC exists
period on the AM Band as legally is should not, being such a QRM
machine. So at least when I read an article that is pro IBOC, it gets me
a bit out of shape I guess. Maybe that is why I have high BP now. 

73,

Patrick

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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2007-12-27 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 Dec 27 2104 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 27 December follow.
Solar flux 72 and estimated mid-latitude A-Index 6.
The mid-latitude K-index at 2100 UTC on 27 December was 2 (19 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 26   26   26   26   26   26   27   27   27   27   27   27   27   27   
UTC  0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 
SFlx 72   72   72   72   72   73   73   73   73   73   73   73   73   72   
A-in 11111122222226
K-in 01111111222222
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[IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

I heard this at 0026 today on my new SRF-59. It appeared out of the mix and 
then faded into the mix. I could still make out the oldies after the fade, but 
nothing more so far as an ID. I also thought I heard them mention Charleston.

THE NEW ROCKIN' 980!

Any help would be appreciated.

Bert New
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Bill Harms
Cassette? How about a reel-to-reel? I recorded a few stations on 
reel-to-reel in the early 1970's. I think they may no longer exist. If 
they exist, they are at my folks place.

Karl J. Zuk wrote:
 Fellow Ircans:
 
 It sounds like a very under-recorded
 cassette tape. (Don't I sound old! What's a cassette?) 
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Re: [IRCA] SRF-59 Eats IBOC For Supper!

2007-12-27 Thread satya
Hi Patrick and Gary:

It seems to me that audio phasing is more effective on co-channel QRM than
adjacent channel; I agree with what Patrick saying - RF phasing is more
effective on adjacent channel QRM...UNLESS you can get the splatter the
same in both receivers (with one nulling the DX target and the other
having it in the background).  In essence, perhaps the RF that isn't
phased can be AF phased?

Alas, I am trapped in a steel and concrete high-rise, so won't be able to
get some DXing in until tomorrow - hopefully there will be something to
listen for TP-wise.  However, even if the TP wet blanket persists, at my
QTH, KOMO-1000 obliterates 990 and 1010, making those two frequencies
about as difficult to hear as 747, 774, etc.  I will give it a shot
tomorrow night - wish me luck!

Kevin



 Gary,

 The audio phasing is an interesting aspect I have been following. Then
 two communication receivers could be used for the same purpose I
 presume. The beauty of RF phasing is totally getting rid of the QRM.
 With audio phasing you would still be left with the RF I would think,
 even phasing the audio, but with both types of phasing, it might be
 better.

 73,

 Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
I have an ol Edison cylinder record, but that I cannot play.

Patrick Martin
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[IRCA] TECH: More SRF-59 Ultralight boring technical stuff

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Ratzlaff
I have traced out the SRF-59 printed circuit board and made a rough
handdrawn schematic of it. It's more or less straightforward as to inputs
and outputs.
As Gary DeBock has already mentioned, there are only two integrated
circuits--a 30-pin main IC1 and a 10-pin audio amplifier headphone driver
IC2.
A trifilar transformer isolates the dual headphone audio channels from the
FM antenna signal on the same lines (the headphone cable outer shield acts
as the FM antenna). The FM signal is passed through a series resistor which
is shorted in the DX/Local switch, through a monolithic thinfilm FM bandpass
filter, then into IC1.
The 1.75 inch long small AM ferrite rod antenna has two windings; one goes
directly to IC1, the other to one section of the 4-section variable tuning
capacitor. It appears both the RF and the local oscillator are tuned, for
both FM and AM modes. L3, the metal can transformer that Gary has found
peaks AM for best sensitivity appears to be part of the AM local oscillator
circuit, not strictly in the input signal path. I'm not sure at this point
what that transformer is actually doing to peak sensitivity. By touching
sections of the variable cap, I was able to severely detune stations in both
AM and FM, thus I believe those two sections are indeed the local
oscillators for both modes.
There are various pins that have bypass caps to ground. There is one other
metal can slug-tuned transformer, which by experimentation I found affects
the audio only in FM mode. I believe this is the FM stereo multiplex
transformer.
Dual audio outputs go to the dual-section volume control, then directly to
the headphone driver audio amplifier, IC2. Dual outputs from IC2 go to the
headphone jack, for the stereo headphones.
There are no other components, and no feedback from IC2 to IC1. There are no
ceramic IF filters, no AM detector diodes or FM quadrature detector diodes;
no external agc feedback lines. Everything having to do with processing the
AM and FM signals and deriving the audio outputs happens inside IC1. And
everything runs off a single 1.5 volt cell.
It would be nice to find a data sheet and block diagram for that IC!
I can send a 350kB .jpg file of my handdrawn diagram to anyone who would
like to examine it. If I get a number of requests, I will wait and send the
file at one time to everyone, due to my slow diallup connection.
Thanks to Gary DeBock for getting me interested in this very unusual little 
radio--I've certainly had fun using and examining it!

Best regards,
Steve AA7U
NE Oregon

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[IRCA] Radio (Part Three-Hundred and Fifty-Seven)

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

IEN-GA Ira Elbert New, III, Watkinsville - SONY SRF-59

980 WAZS SC Summerville - 12/27/07 0026 - Oldies and mentions of Charleston. 
Good signal only to fade to just above the mix. The New 
Rocket 980. (IEN-GA)

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Re: [IRCA] XM Sirius was Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
KAZ,

Yes, that is what I hear more and more. I remember when The Dish Network
(TV) came into the area. People said, why bother, we have cable. Well,
now I see little dishes everywhere. With satellite TV, you get more for
your money I see more and more Sirius and XM in the future too.

Patrick 

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Saul Chernos
IBOC



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
irca@hard-core-dx.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article


I almost think its funny.  Somebody says IBOC and everybody starts 
sending
 emails at a frantic pace.  Pavlov's Dog lives!



 On Dec 27, 2007 12:44 PM, Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Patrick Martin wrote:

  I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
  IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
  If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
  knows?

 These statements are all entirely correct...which continues to beg the
 question: if there's nothing we as DXers can do except wait it out, why
 do some of us get SO very worked up by any bit of even vaguely pro-IBOC
 writing that gets forwarded to the list, regardless of the source or the
 date on it?

 As someone who writes for several industry trade publications (Radio
 World until recently, Radio Journal for a while now, and soon Radio
 Guide as well), I can tell you that most of these articles make
 precisely zero impact on the industry.

 How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had
 anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially on
 this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed
 endlessly, and to what point?

 s
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

Wait...is that a Bell I hear off in the distance? 

And why is there slobber on my Keyboard?

Sorry...I couldn't resist.

Bert
KI4SYC

Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


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 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:50:51 -0500
 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article
 
 IBOC

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hawkins 
 To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
 
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article
 
 
I almost think its funny.  Somebody says IBOC and everybody starts 
sending
 emails at a frantic pace.  Pavlov's Dog lives!



 On Dec 27, 2007 12:44 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:

 Patrick Martin wrote:

 I know nothing about the writer, but many of us get a bit upset over
 IBOC, including myself. There is nothing we can do except wait it out.
 If it doesn't make money, it will be gone. How long that will take, who
 knows?

 These statements are all entirely correct...which continues to beg the
 question: if there's nothing we as DXers can do except wait it out, why
 do some of us get SO very worked up by any bit of even vaguely pro-IBOC
 writing that gets forwarded to the list, regardless of the source or the
 date on it?

 As someone who writes for several industry trade publications (Radio
 World until recently, Radio Journal for a while now, and soon Radio
 Guide as well), I can tell you that most of these articles make
 precisely zero impact on the industry.

 How long has it been since anyone, pro-IBOC or anti-, has really had
 anything new to add to the discussion? It certainly feels, especially on
 this end, like it's just the same old complaints being rehashed
 endlessly, and to what point?

 s
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan IBOC on SRF-59

2007-12-27 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
I still have over 400 records here.. and a working record player...

Paul Walker
WABV 1590



On Dec 27, 2007 6:17 PM, Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an ol Edison cylinder record, but that I cannot play.

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Scott Fybush
Russ Edmunds wrote:

 Sorry, but I think you've overstepped here. Since when is it libellous
 to suggest that someone who is a self-described free-lancer might have
 received payment from an interested party to write something on their
 behalf ??? Or, since when is it libellous to suggest that someone might
 be writing under a psuedonym ??

I'll step back from libelous - that may have been a bit extreme. But 
unless someone has actual evidence that Ira was on the take, or that his 
real name is something other than Ira Wilner, I fail to see how the 
discussion was in any way advanced by making those allegations.

In the absence of evidence, they become merely the basis of an ad 
hominem attack - one doesn't like what's being said, and so one goes 
after the person saying it (or, in this case, a fevered-imagination 
strawman version of the person saying it) instead of the substance of 
what's being said.

What I'm asking for here is a bare minimum of civility, and an awareness 
that our radio community is a small one. I realize that Ira Wilner may 
be a complete unknown to most of the people on the list. But it might be 
useful to remember that he's a real person, with a home and a family and 
a job and - believe it or not - a passion for radio, just like the rest 
of us here.

It's entirely possible, I hope, to disagree with his opinions (I do), 
without feeling a need to cast aspersions on him as a person.

s
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Scott Fybush
Saul Chernos wrote:
 IBOC

Hey, wait a minute - this Saul Chernos is a freelance writer, too.

Come to think of it, do we know he even exists?

And why does my dog keep barking at me?

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Hawkins
Say IBOC real loud and find out!

On Dec 27, 2007 4:07 PM, Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saul Chernos wrote:
  IBOC

 Hey, wait a minute - this Saul Chernos is a freelance writer, too.

 Come to think of it, do we know he even exists?

 And why does my dog keep barking at me?

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saul Chernos wrote:
  IBOC
 
 Hey, wait a minute - this Saul Chernos is a freelance writer, too.
 
 Come to think of it, do we know he even exists?
 
 And why does my dog keep barking at me?
 


Your dog is telling you exactly what he is doing, and with a Boston
accent - I BOC.

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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW

--- Mike Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Say IBOC real loud and find out!

  And why does my dog keep barking at me?
 
  s




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[IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article - moving forward

2007-12-27 Thread cafe
Wading in:

I think if there was one statement in the article (new or old), that got me 
overheated... it was

The era of DX'ing has come to an end now that the entire world is wired for 
the Internet

Two things:

1.) The entire world may be wired for the internet, but the average 
connectivity in the
average 3rd World village is probably not much faster than a 56K Modem.

Then again, Ira may have been referring to the U.S.A. as the Entire World...
which it is for many geographically challenged North Americans.

2.) The era of DX'ing has NOT come to an end -- and it will not on my shift 
brother.

I have been promoting the hobby of DX listening since the first few weeks of 
Spring 1972
when I had my first radio - preaching the gospel to whomever would listen; 
young or old.

Ira, whoever he is, should have or could have expected some rebuttal (now or 
one year ago)
from an article that is little more than an advertisement for digital radio.

I would urge everyone to consider the following:
You could, hypothetically, divide society into those who embrace technology,
regardless of its faults and those who eschew modern techniques and practices
in favor of the tried and true.

I have recently jumped on Gary De Bocks Ultralight revolution which
is a little of both (the old and the new)- and I would encourage moderation and 
temperance
when responding to perceived attacks on the hobby.

I, for one, am not giving up on this hobby...but, I will
not let it blow out a heart valve. It is all about
perspective, balance and what is important.

Best of the Season and Happy New Year,


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[IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread k4ape
Bert-
WAZS is in here all night long, mostly under WTEM in DC.
If you don't already know about Barry's web site, here is the address. He 
has all this type of data post there.

http://www.topazdesigns.com/ambc/

As for being 'new' I don't think so. I been hearing it for over a year.

Willis
Old Fort, TN 

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[IRCA] Fanatic Ultralight Network (F.U.N.) Plans For 2008.. Give Your Ideas!

2007-12-27 Thread D1028Gary
Hello All,
 
 If you are the proud owner of an SRF-59, SRF-M37V,  DT-200VX, DT-210V, 
DT-180V, C.Crane SWP, or SRF-T615, and have experienced the  great thrills of 
DXing with a tiny pocket radio, we want to hear from you!
 
 This sudden boom in pocket radio DXing took  everybody by surprise, and 
we are attempting to organize in some way to provide  information, technical 
support, and competitive challenges.  We are  all dedicated IRCA members, and 
hope to spread our enthusiasm throughout IRCA,  providing not only benefits to 
IRCA, but to medium-wave DX in  general.
 
 Some of the ideas already being discussed  are:
 
1)  Immediate, detailed information on new Ultralight  portables
 
2)  Cooperative sharing of the information from technical  experiments
 
3)  East coast and west coast Ultralight DXpeditions (to chase TA's   TP's)
 
4)  Awards program for Ultralight TA and TP accomplishments (we are  all 
honest!)
 
5)  East coast vs west coast competiton in overall transoceanic  reception 
(yes, we really are honest)
 
6)  Competiton to receive the most countries in one year with an  Ultralight 
portable (barefoot)
 
7)  Compettion to receive the most states in one year  (barefoot)
 
 This list is only a very small dream currently...  we need your 
enthusiasm and ideas to make it a reality!  If you would  like to be a part of 
the 
2008 Fanatic Ultralight Network (or if you just  want to say you think this 
whole 
idea is a joke, and that we are all nuts),  feel free to express your ideas 
off-list to me (and I will be happy to hear  even negative comments).
 
  
   73,  Gary DeBock
 
  








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Re: [IRCA] TP?

2007-12-27 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 16:54 27/12/2007, you wrote:
Nick,

I was not up at LSR this morning, but at 1635 UTC, there was still
decent activity.

The joys of living on the coast, Patrick.   I'm pretty sure that you 
didn't hear 747 or 774 at that time because they had already signed 
off, but the low band may have just been dead anyway if you didn't 
hear 594 for example.

best wishes,

Nick










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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

Thanks. I already have that site, but I didn't check it for the information.


Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


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 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:17:02 -0500
 Subject: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!
 
 Bert-
 WAZS is in here all night long, mostly under WTEM in DC.
 If you don't already know about Barry's web site, here is the address. He 
 has all this type of data post there.
 
 http://www.topazdesigns.com/ambc/
 
 As for being 'new' I don't think so. I been hearing it for over a year.
 
 Willis
 Old Fort, TN 
 
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[IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
For those of you who wanted the schematic Steve said he had, I've posted it
so he wouldn't have to upload it on his dialup connection each time.

http://www.walkerbroadcasting.com/srf59.jpg
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[IRCA] Send more boring technical stuff!

2007-12-27 Thread Karl J. Zuk

Steve:

Send us your work! Thank you very much for working on it!
I'd love to see what Sony is up to.

I wonder who will be the first to reverse engineer this into a super DX design.

Karl Zuk  N2KZ




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 To: IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:00:19 -0800
 Subject: [IRCA] TECH: More SRF-59 Ultralight boring technical stuff
 
 I have traced out the SRF-59 printed circuit board and made a rough
 handdrawn schematic of it. It's more or less straightforward as to inputs
 and outputs.
 As Gary DeBock has already mentioned, there are only two integrated
 circuits--a 30-pin main IC1 and a 10-pin audio amplifier headphone driver
 IC2.
 A trifilar transformer isolates the dual headphone audio channels from the
 FM antenna signal on the same lines (the headphone cable outer shield acts
 as the FM antenna). The FM signal is passed through a series resistor which
 is shorted in the DX/Local switch, through a monolithic thinfilm FM bandpass
 filter, then into IC1.
 The 1.75 inch long small AM ferrite rod antenna has two windings; one goes
 directly to IC1, the other to one section of the 4-section variable tuning
 capacitor. It appears both the RF and the local oscillator are tuned, for
 both FM and AM modes. L3, the metal can transformer that Gary has found
 peaks AM for best sensitivity appears to be part of the AM local oscillator
 circuit, not strictly in the input signal path. I'm not sure at this point
 what that transformer is actually doing to peak sensitivity. By touching
 sections of the variable cap, I was able to severely detune stations in both
 AM and FM, thus I believe those two sections are indeed the local
 oscillators for both modes.
 There are various pins that have bypass caps to ground. There is one other
 metal can slug-tuned transformer, which by experimentation I found affects
 the audio only in FM mode. I believe this is the FM stereo multiplex
 transformer.
 Dual audio outputs go to the dual-section volume control, then directly to
 the headphone driver audio amplifier, IC2. Dual outputs from IC2 go to the
 headphone jack, for the stereo headphones.
 There are no other components, and no feedback from IC2 to IC1. There are no
 ceramic IF filters, no AM detector diodes or FM quadrature detector diodes;
 no external agc feedback lines. Everything having to do with processing the
 AM and FM signals and deriving the audio outputs happens inside IC1. And
 everything runs off a single 1.5 volt cell.
 It would be nice to find a data sheet and block diagram for that IC!
 I can send a 350kB .jpg file of my handdrawn diagram to anyone who would
 like to examine it. If I get a number of requests, I will wait and send the
 file at one time to everyone, due to my slow diallup connection.
 Thanks to Gary DeBock for getting me interested in this very unusual little 
 radio--I've certainly had fun using and examining it!
 
 Best regards,
 Steve AA7U
 NE Oregon
 
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2007-12-27 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2007 Dec 28 0005 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 27 December follow.
Solar flux 72 and mid-latitude A-index 6.
The mid-latitude K-index at  UTC on 28 December was 1 (7 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 26   26   26   26   26   27   27   27   27   27   27   27   27   28   
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  
SFlx 72   72   72   72   73   73   73   73   73   73   73   73   72   72   
A-in 11111222222266
K-in 11111112222221
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[IRCA] Wireless headphone recommendations?

2007-12-27 Thread Russ Johnson
I am thinking about getting a pair of these.

Anyone have a set they are happy with?

Would appreciate any suggestions, recommendations, etc.

Thanks!

Russ Johnson in N.C.

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Re: [IRCA] TP?

2007-12-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Nick,

Often the low band will not be productive that late. I don't believe I
did check 594. That's right 774, 747, would have signed off. But it
wasn't all that bad considering how late it was. The A is up a bit
tonight at 6, so I don't know how well CX will be later.

73,

Patrick 

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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Barry McLarnon
On Thursday 27 December 2007 21:00, Ira Elbert New, III wrote:
 Thanks. I already have that site, but I didn't check it for the
 information.

I don't care whether you use the site or not, but surely you could 
have looked the info up *somewhere*, before posting your question to 
NINE different mailing lists.  Good grief!

I stayed away from the IBOC thread, but I think it's time to start one 
about basic netiquette instead.

Barry

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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Neil Kazaross
Time to again recommend Scott's xlnt 10watts.com as the best 45 bucks a 
DXer can spend.

73 KAZ
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From: Barry McLarnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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irca@hard-core-dx.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!


 On Thursday 27 December 2007 21:00, Ira Elbert New, III wrote:
 Thanks. I already have that site, but I didn't check it for the
 information.

 I don't care whether you use the site or not, but surely you could
 have looked the info up *somewhere*, before posting your question to
 NINE different mailing lists.  Good grief!

 I stayed away from the IBOC thread, but I think it's time to start one
 about basic netiquette instead.

 Barry

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Re: [IRCA] Send more boring technical stuff!

2007-12-27 Thread D1028Gary
Karl,
 
 I agree with you 100%.  Every SRF-59 owner  owes Steve a great deal of 
gratitude.  His technical investigation of the  radio's secrets was desperately 
needed, and the results are thrilling, not  boring!
 
If not for the time demands of preparing for the  2008 Ultralight 
Shootout, I would probably also be extremely motivated to  attempt a little 
reverse 
engineering myself, using that phenomenal IC  chip...  a thrilling winter 
project!  Steve has single-handedly proven  that ex-Navy sonar repair 
technicians 
are really the technical cream of the  crop, right?  After the SRF-59 
alignment procedures were promulgated  on the list, guess who was the only one 
with 
the confidence to get the job  done?  Well, I'd better go back to testing 
pocket radios before I get in  serious trouble, hi.
 
  
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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Anybody know how to read Chinese?

http://www.110v.cn/html/3/18/16/20070514/13627.html


On Dec 27, 2007 7:41 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those of you who wanted the schematic Steve said he had, I've posted it
 so he wouldn't have to upload it on his dialup connection each time.

 http://www.walkerbroadcasting.com/srf59.jpg
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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Westfall
Sorry if this doesn't look like a proper reply to your email software, 
but the IRCA mail list doesn't like me using GMAIL for some reason, even 
when I have my From address set to my list subscription address...


On with the what I wanted to write:

Found a website with what looks like a reference design using the CXA1129N.
It is a bit different from Steve traced out, though.

Anybody know how to read Chinese?
http://www.110v.cn/html/3/18/16/20070514/13627.html 
http://www.110v.cn/html/3/18/16/20070514/13627.html


On Dec 27, 2007 7:41 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For those of you who wanted the schematic Steve said he had, I've 
posted it
  so he wouldn't have to upload it on his dialup connection each time.
 
  http://www.walkerbroadcasting.com/srf59.jpg 
http://www.walkerbroadcasting.com/srf59.jpg
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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread D1028Gary
Hi Mesa Mike,
 
 I can read basic Chinese, but not near as  well as my wife (from Hong 
Kong).  Her knowledge (and interest) in  technical Chinese, however, may be 
limited.  By the way, Hong Kong Chinese  and Mainland Chinese use two different 
styles of writing (traditional and  simplified characters, respectively). 
Consequently, she may not be able to  read all these Mainland characters, but 
I'll 
have her take a look when she has  time.  Thanks!
 
  
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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article - moving forward

2007-12-27 Thread Saul Chernos
We can have it both ways.

The hobby will endure in some way, shape or form. There will always be uses 
for spectrum, and there will always be people interested in sniffing out 
what's there.

Broadcasting is undergoing profound change. The internet and wireless and 
satellite technologies WILL change the platforms upon which audio and video 
services are delivered. However, the beauty and magic of radio will survive 
and evolve in new, interesting ways. New technology opens up exciting 
opportunities, and broadcasters who spend more time, energy and resources 
(financial and otherwise) on quackery, chasing what's touted as the latest 
and greatest technology / platform, and thinking the same-old, same-old 
content will do, will find themselves cast to the wayside, roadkill on the 
new (oh, how I hate the term) information highway.

The smart way is to be easily available over the Internet and handheld 
portable devices (which require fairly minimal spending), and pick and 
choose very carefully how to proceed with any digital use of broadcast 
spectrum. Keep a highly critical, eagle eye on things, and wait until 
stuff's been tried and tested. Technology and platform are not the place to 
'be first'. Broadcasters are in the content business, not the platform 
business, and should be wary of hucksters selling viagra. Viagra that's made 
radio limp, at that!


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 I think if there was one statement in the article (new or old), that got 
 me overheated... it was

 The era of DX'ing has come to an end now that the entire world is wired 
 for the Internet

 Two things:

 1.) The entire world may be wired for the internet, but the average 
 connectivity in the
 average 3rd World village is probably not much faster than a 56K Modem.

 Then again, Ira may have been referring to the U.S.A. as the Entire 
 World...
 which it is for many geographically challenged North Americans.

 2.) The era of DX'ing has NOT come to an end -- and it will not on my 
 shift brother.

 I have been promoting the hobby of DX listening since the first few weeks 
 of Spring 1972
 when I had my first radio - preaching the gospel to whomever would listen; 
 young or old.

 Ira, whoever he is, should have or could have expected some rebuttal (now 
 or one year ago)
 from an article that is little more than an advertisement for digital 
 radio.

 I would urge everyone to consider the following:
 You could, hypothetically, divide society into those who embrace 
 technology,
 regardless of its faults and those who eschew modern techniques and 
 practices
 in favor of the tried and true.

 I have recently jumped on Gary De Bocks Ultralight revolution which
 is a little of both (the old and the new)- and I would encourage 
 moderation and temperance
 when responding to perceived attacks on the hobby.

 I, for one, am not giving up on this hobby...but, I will
 not let it blow out a heart valve. It is all about
 perspective, balance and what is important.

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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Well, here's what Babelfish says:
(I'm still confused...)

CXAll29N is the new monolithic reception electric circuit which Japan
Sony Corporation produces, it integrated the amplitude modulation,
frequency modulation stereophonic receiver all functions, and consumes
the electricity province, with fifth battery power supply, may use for
a month. This IC is 30 feet 双列 flat plastics seal, the volume is very
small, the length is 10mm, the width only has 5.smm. The attached
figure is CXAll29N assembly AM/the FMSTEREO radio electric circuit
schematic diagram, the working voltage is 1.5V, the operating current
is 8mA. CXAll29N 2nd, 30 feet respectively are center the wave and the
frequency modulation antenna signal input end; The 7th foot is hanging
when is the FM receive condition, meets V+ is the AM condition; IC2
(4,537) is the necessary audio frequency amplification electric
circuit, its 2, 4 feet respectively be audio frequency about sound
track input end; 8th foot earth; 7th, 9 feet are the audio frequency
out-ports, may directly impel the low impedance earphone. This machine
antijamming ability strong, receiving sensitivity high, when listens
to the frequency modulation program, the sound is clear but the
background sound to be much more static, its acoustic fidelity
approaches the CD level. If can use the upscale earphone to listen to,
some large-scale combined sounds also are unable with it comparison.
Character string 9




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Re: [IRCA] Wince-worthy IBOC praise article

2007-12-27 Thread Saul Chernos
You'll hear from my lawyer, you will!

And so will your pretty little dog, too...

;-)


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 --- Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saul Chernos wrote:
  IBOC

 Hey, wait a minute - this Saul Chernos is a freelance writer, too.

 Come to think of it, do we know he even exists?

 And why does my dog keep barking at me?



 Your dog is telling you exactly what he is doing, and with a Boston
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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Mike Westfall
Well, here's what Babelfish says:
(I'm still confused...)

CXAll29N is the new monolithic reception electric circuit which Japan
Sony Corporation produces, it integrated the amplitude modulation,
frequency modulation stereophonic receiver all functions, and consumes
the electricity province, with fifth battery power supply, may use for
a month. This IC is 30 feet 双列 flat plastics seal, the volume is very
small, the length is 10mm, the width only has 5.smm. The attached
figure is CXAll29N assembly AM/the FMSTEREO radio electric circuit
schematic diagram, the working voltage is 1.5V, the operating current
is 8mA. CXAll29N 2nd, 30 feet respectively are center the wave and the
frequency modulation antenna signal input end; The 7th foot is hanging
when is the FM receive condition, meets V+ is the AM condition; IC2
(4,537) is the necessary audio frequency amplification electric
circuit, its 2, 4 feet respectively be audio frequency about sound
track input end; 8th foot earth; 7th, 9 feet are the audio frequency
out-ports, may directly impel the low impedance earphone. This machine
antijamming ability strong, receiving sensitivity high, when listens
to the frequency modulation program, the sound is clear but the
background sound to be much more static, its acoustic fidelity
approaches the CD level. If can use the upscale earphone to listen to,
some large-scale combined sounds also are unable with it comparison.
Character string 9


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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

I get by with a little help from my friends.

- Lennon/McCartney-

I did look the info up *somewhere*, before posting my question to NINE 
different mailing lists, but I didn't get the desired results. I put the word 
out and folks came to my aid. 

How's that for basic netiquette here in this season of giving?

Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


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 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:45:35 -0500
 Subject: Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!
 
 On Thursday 27 December 2007 21:00, Ira Elbert New, III wrote:
 Thanks. I already have that site, but I didn't check it for the
 information.
 
 I don't care whether you use the site or not, but surely you could 
 have looked the info up *somewhere*, before posting your question to 
 NINE different mailing lists.  Good grief!
 
 I stayed away from the IBOC thread, but I think it's time to start one 
 about basic netiquette instead.
 
 Barry
 
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[IRCA] WTCW-920

2007-12-27 Thread k4ape
920WTCW   KY   WHITESBURG 2232  27/12/07
CW song, Amarillo by morning followed by promo for Kentucky National 
Guard; a short story by the GM about baseball player Earl Colonel Cobb, a 
true Kentuckian, and collecting baseball cards. ID-Country legend, classic 
country greats, WTCW, 920. [WM-TN]


Been quite a while since I have this one.

DXer: Willis, K4APE
QTH: Old Fort, TN
ANTENNA: 149' long wire
RCVR: Drake R-4C 

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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread k4ape

 Time to again recommend Scott's xlnt 10watts.com as the best 45 bucks 
 a
 DXer can spend.

 73 KAZ

Why? Why spend money when the info is out there in easy, quick downloadable 
format on Barries site as well as Gregs and Lee's. Barry keeps his list up 
to date as best or better than can be done.

And best of all IT IS FREE

Willis 

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Re: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Ratzlaff
Thanks to Paul for putting my handdrawn diagram on his webpage. I presume 
that the several of you who asked for the diagram in the past several hours 
have obtained it from Paul's site.
I should note that the diagram is probably not 100% accurate. Several traces 
I was unable to figure where they went on the IC1. The sections associated 
with the tuning cap are all using the +1.5 volts supply as the common 
reference, not the minus/ground. This is probably to supply voltage to some 
of the IC1 pins thru external circuitry. You'll notice that in the FM tuning 
section, L1/C1 and the associated tuning cap section don't go anywhere. 
Since I couldn't tell where pin 29 on IC1 went, it probably goes to the 
junction of C2/L1, for the FM input tuning. Since every other pin on IC1 is 
used, pin 29 is probably also used.
The ferrite loopstick connections aren't verified either, just guessed at. 
I'd have to remove the loopstick and trace out the two windings to be sure 
where they really go. The AM tuning section doesn't really look functional 
as drawn, and no doubt is not correct.
I have another SRF-59 on order and will do some component dissassembly after 
I receive a backup radio.
Someone asked how to hook up an external digital dial to the AM section, to 
be able to determine what tuned frequency is dialed in. That would have to 
be done as a new experiment; I have no real idea if the dial could be added. 
If the radio in fact has an approximate +57kHz offset from the input-tuned 
frequency, then if the digital dial could be offset that small amount, and 
be coupled to the AM local oscillator such that it does not detune the 
oscillator, then perhaps the digital dial might work.
I found touching the tuning cap section associated with L3/C5 detuned the AM 
section, so that would be a good place to start with trying a digital dial 
connection, with some type of low capacitance isolation buffer stage.
For what I observed using the spectrum analyzer, with the two presumed local 
oscillator RF signals in AM mode, with the lowest one about +57 kHz higher 
than the input frequency, it's possible that what I thought was the second 
harmonic is really the signal that IC1 is using as the local oscillator, and 
that the lower one is some type of sub harmonic. But all DSP ICs I'm aware 
of require the input signals to be well below 100 kHz, and using the second 
harmonic as the actual local oscillator doesn't seem to fit that 
requirement, where possibly the +57 kHz signal just might.
An experiment could be done to remove the AM oscillator signal and inject an 
external one from a signal generator and try to figure out what local 
oscillator frequency is really used by the radio.
It seems to me since the radio is not shielded, that if the local oscillator 
is really just +57 kHz higher than the input, then a strong local BCB 
station would eventually fall on the local oscillator signal's frequency and 
mess up the radio reception. So far no one has reported anything like that 
being noticed.
I hope to do some experiments once I have another backup radio.
One might think that if Sony can sell a radio for $15 including free 
shipping, and still make a profit, that this particular circuit might be 
used in other Sony miniature radios, to get the costs of integrated circuits 
and such way down.

I have been tracing out circuits for fun for many years--I do it for 
enjoyment and to learn how other designers do things. This little circuit 
board actually was not that hard to get the basic circuit figured out, with 
the limitations noted above for parts that need to be removed to figure out 
some more details. There's got to be some amazing things going on inside IC1 
to take a radio signal in and put out demodulated audio for both AM and FM, 
with no external parts except the presumed-FM stereo multiplex transformer, 
and external components for the local oscillators.

Best regards,
Steve
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From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:41 PM
Subject: [IRCA] Sony SRF-59 Schematic Now Posted Online


 For those of you who wanted the schematic Steve said he had, I've posted 
 it
 so he wouldn't have to upload it on his dialup connection each time.

 http://www.walkerbroadcasting.com/srf59.jpg
 Regards,
 -- 
 Paul B. Walker, Jr.
 www.walkerbroadcasting.com
 www.wabv1590.com
 www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting
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Re: [IRCA] SRF-59 AM test and First Impressions

2007-12-27 Thread bill kral
Hello all and Merry Christmas plus 2  3. The new Sony
59 arrived today and sat on a table waiting to be
demonstrating its capabilities until after work
tonight,and after cutting and prying open a stubborn
plastic adult proof package I put a AA cell into the
unit and plugged in the headset and turned it on.The
band switch was on FM so I tried it first,with the
headphone wire still tied up and short.Audio from the
phones is not bad with some bass response.Reception at
an altitude of 150 feet in downtown Victoria was
pretty good.Will try at 4 feet tomorrow to see if it
still gets as many FMs.Switched to AM and tuned up and
down.AM is good but can't be tested at max performance
due to apartment electrical noise,even near a
window.From bottom to top signals were good with
reasonable seperation on distant signals.Detected
tuning audio whistles at 780 and 790 with highest
pitch in between.Next at 880 with Seattle butting up
to 900 Victoria and no way to seperate them for
890.Further up distants sounded stable and clear but
again no sign of 1050 or 60 with local 1070 too strong
on adjacents and touching 1090.Rotating sperically for
nulling did not allow next door signals in.Locals did
not produce tuning whistles.Higher up signals were not
as strong compared to bigger portable.For a more
reliable test I'll have to take the 59 out for a walk
or take it to work a few miles north of the city away
from the two locals.Tuning indicator not set totally
on channel received and is too wide to read
accurately.A black vertical pencil line would be a
better freq locater.More tests will have to be done
for a better review of performance plusses and
minuses.Bill in BC.


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Re: [IRCA] CXA1129N IC translated does make some sense....

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Ratzlaff

Hi Mike,
Thanks very much, this actually makes a little sense. Feet should have 
translated to pin (the associated pin of the integrated circuit), and pins 
2 and 30 are indeed the AM and FM signal inputs, respectively. The same 4537 
audio amp IC is also used in the SRF 59 radio, and pins 2 and 4 are the dual 
inputs; pins 7 and 9 the dual audio outputs.
Unfortunately little to nothing is said about what actually happens inside 
the main IC and what the local oscillator frequency should be.
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Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:53 PM
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Well, here's what Babelfish says:
(I'm still confused...)

CXAll29N is the new monolithic reception electric circuit which Japan
Sony Corporation produces, it integrated the amplitude modulation,
frequency modulation stereophonic receiver all functions, and consumes
the electricity province, with fifth battery power supply, may use for
a month. This IC is 30 feet 双列 flat plastics seal, the volume is very
small, the length is 10mm, the width only has 5.smm. The attached
figure is CXAll29N assembly AM/the FMSTEREO radio electric circuit
schematic diagram, the working voltage is 1.5V, the operating current
is 8mA. CXAll29N 2nd, 30 feet respectively are center the wave and the
frequency modulation antenna signal input end; The 7th foot is hanging
when is the FM receive condition, meets V+ is the AM condition; IC2
(4,537) is the necessary audio frequency amplification electric
circuit, its 2, 4 feet respectively be audio frequency about sound
track input end; 8th foot earth; 7th, 9 feet are the audio frequency
out-ports, may directly impel the low impedance earphone. This machine
antijamming ability strong, receiving sensitivity high, when listens
to the frequency modulation program, the sound is clear but the
background sound to be much more static, its acoustic fidelity
approaches the CD level. If can use the upscale earphone to listen to,
some large-scale combined sounds also are unable with it comparison.
Character string 9




--
Mesa Mike
LA de NM








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Re: [IRCA] The New Rockin' 980!

2007-12-27 Thread kevin redding

On Dec 27, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Barry McLarnon wrote:

 I don't care whether you use the site or not, but surely you could
 have looked the info up *somewhere*, before posting your question to
 NINE different mailing lists.  Good grief!

Barry,

I agree. I get about a dozen of his posts. I enjoy reading them but  
not 10 times.

Kevin
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