Re: [IRCA] Definite JJ on 774 at 0600 UTC

2009-11-09 Thread Derek Vincent

Pulled out the barefoot ULR T616 and 774 was there...

Back to bed now.  Why can't the cat feed itself?

Thank you.

Derek Vincent

DX team slacker

On Nov 8, 2009, at 10:22 PM, John H. Bryant  
bjohnor...@rockisland.com wrote:


I couldn't believe it especially since I was also following  
carriers on 576 and 666 plus low audio on 747.  Geez, I'm going to  
BED!


John B.

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[IRCA] Radio America on 700 kHz

2009-11-09 Thread Markku Jussila
Hi all

I catched this id on Saturday, November 7th at 0800 UTC on 700 kHz. I
haven't found any info on the affiliates, does anyone have an idea?

Thanks in advance,

Markku Jussila
Karperö, Finland
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Re: [IRCA] Wellbrook versus Beverage comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread Rick Kunath

Nick Hall-Patch wrote:


I don't really know the technical reasons
for this, but it makes sense that a big antenna will deliver a more
robust signal than a smaller one will.


It's all about the aperture of the antenna.

Even though the larger antenna has a less-tight F/B or forward lobe, the 
fact that it is physically larger means that it is coupled into a 
greater area of space. So it has a larger aperture.


Because of this, i.e. it's coupling into a larger physical area, it can 
average out the effects of ionospheric refraction of the signal, fading, 
etc. over a larger area. This often is perceived as a better signal, or 
a steadier signal.


Hope that made sense.

Rick Kunath
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[IRCA] Drift net MW DX update from northern Delaware

2009-11-09 Thread Peter Jernakoff

Drift net MW DX update from northern Delaware (receiver = RFSpace SDR-IQ):

01-Nov-09 // 1900 local // 1400 khz. // WAMC // 1 kw // Albany, New York //
Graveyard mush then a faint mention of WAMC and WAMC-AM. // New. A 226 mile
catch.

MP3 clip available here:
http://www.21centimeter.com/21centimeter/Recordings/1400-khz_1900-Local_11-01-09_WAMC_Albany_NY.mp3


08-Nov-09 // 1700 local // 590 khz. // WLES // 0.6 kw day, 0.028 kw
night // Bon Air, Virginia // Male with You're listening to Richmond's
voice of truth, AM 590 The Truth and around the world at WTRU.com, WLES Bon
Air. Into SRN news. // New. A 183 mile catch.

MP3 clip available here:
http://www.21centimeter.com/21centimeter/Recordings/590-khz_1700-Local_11-8-09_WLES_Bon-Air_Virginia.mp3


08-Nov-09 // 1700 local // 650 khz. // WSRO // 0.25 kw day, 0.009 kw
night // Ashland, Massachusetts // Male with AM 650, WSRO,
Ashland-Boston. // New. A 281 mile catch.

MP3 clip available here:
http://www.21centimeter.com/21centimeter/Recordings/650-khz_1700-Local_11-8-09_WSRO_Ashland_Massachusetts.mp3


08-Nov-09 // 1700 local // 680 khz. // WPTF // 50 kw // Raleigh, North
Carolina // Male with Newstalk 680 WPTF Raleigh, a Curtis Media Group
station with the news you need at AM 680 and WPTF.com. // New. A 320 mile
catch.

MP3 clip available here:
http://www.21centimeter.com/21centimeter/Recordings/680-khz_1700-Local_11-8-09_WPTF_Raleigh_North-Carolina.mp3


Regards,

-Peter Jernakoff-
K3KMS
Wilmington, Delaware
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[IRCA] Arizona TP's for 11-9-09

2009-11-09 Thread Bill Block

Listened from 1305-1410 ut and at first conditions was not very good but around 
sunrise conditions got very good.  Around 1350 ut conditions were the best so 
far this year with lots of carriers and audio.  Audio was heard on: 279, 531, 
558, 567, 594, 603, 657, 666, 693, 774, 828, 873, 936, 945 and 1566.

 

Bill Block

Prescott Valley, AZ

Drake R8


  
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Re: [IRCA] What was being heard from the other side of the Pond

2009-11-09 Thread Paul Crankshaw

Hi Willis

I recently heard 1070 WFLI which was a big thrill. I believe I caught it 
just before it switched down from daytime power


1070WFLILookout Mountain, TN; “ WFLI 10-70 Lookout Mountain, 
Chattanooga, Tennessee”  50kW/2.5 kW.  Personal FirstW/F2300
25/10


Paul




texas4...@core.com wrote:

Hi Paul-
If you ever hear anything from Chattanooga/ Cleveland, TN market, 
please let us know.

Thanks
Willis, K4APE
Old Fort, TN 


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[IRCA] All night talker on 830 SOLVED!

2009-11-09 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
Hi;

The all night talker that has been under WCCO for the past week has been
solved!!!  Just before 0100, early Saturday morning they came out of
some talk show and there were all kinds of boings, beeps and other
sounds, followed by WKTX calls and mention of the CoL, Cortland, Ohio.
This one is new to both logs.  They are a 1 Kw daytimer, obviously on
late.  My old (1991) NRC log mentions they can operate until LSS at WCCO
but not 24 hours! :)  I also found this on the web, so they've been
doing this for over a week:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,155672.msg1320032.html

The news is USA but the programming is IRN, IIRC.  Thanks to all who
offered up suggestions.  I really thought that this was PA but am
pleasantly surprised.

Earlier Friday evening, I logged WTAR 850 VA for the first time.

850 WTAR VA Norfolk 11-6 1630 G w/ WSJ report and local ads. New! DH-IN

830 WKTX OH Cortalnd 11-7 0059 P-F u/WCCO w/talk show and full LID, not
bad on peaks in WCCO null.  Daytimer on late.  Have heard for several
nights, straight. New!  DH-IN

Time EST. E-100 and S-350 (spotting radio) both barefoot

73,
Dave Hascall
Indianapolis, IN

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Re: [IRCA] Wellbrook versus Beverage comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 13:12 11/9/2009, you wrote:
Nick Hall-Patch wrote:

I don't really know the technical reasons
for this, but it makes sense that a big antenna will deliver a more
robust signal than a smaller one will.

It's all about the aperture of the antenna.

Even though the larger antenna has a less-tight F/B or forward lobe, the fact 
that it is physically larger means that it is coupled into a greater area of 
space. So it has a larger aperture.

Because of this, i.e. it's coupling into a larger physical area, it can 
average out the effects of ionospheric refraction of the signal, fading, etc. 
over a larger area. This often is perceived as a better signal, or a steadier 
signal.

Hope that made sense.

Thanks for replying on this Rick.   The explanation does ring a few bells (my 
antenna theory is pretty rusty, and I never considered it to be great). 

I guess I'm not surprised that a 450m Beverage antenna does a better job of 
sampling a wavefront than a phased small antenna system of 40m spacing, as one 
is a wavelength or more at MW frequencies, while the other is a smallish 
fraction a of a wavelength.

But I'm a tad surprised that a 7m x 15m corner fed loop gives noticeably better 
reception than a 5m x10m Flag even if it's also a splashier signal, as both 
are a very small fraction of a wavelength.   Perhaps your explanation gives way 
to mine (that when there is so little signal available for demodulation, that a 
small increase makes a significant improvement in the output signal's 
readability) with these small antennas, and that my comparison of the Grayland 
antennas and mine was not apt?

Thanks again for getting the brain cells working a bit.

best wishes,

Nick



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[IRCA] Orcas Island TPs: Nov 9

2009-11-09 Thread John H. Bryant
There I was at 10PM local time, concentrating on 774 hoping for 
Spain, probably... heck, it was 3:00PM in Tokyo...  As I concentrated 
on the murmur, it began to rise and I was listening in my best 
Mexican Spanish, while not forgetting a big Hungarian and a Morrocan 
station co-channel, and then my aging brain sez naw, that isn't 
Japanese (I used to be fairly fluent.) And then I heard unmistakable 
JJ words... whole bunches of them entire sentences of 
them!   Isn't winter DXing wonderful, especially this far North? I'll 
be heading back to the South Prairie after Thanksgiving and I will 
miss this! In this instance, I went to bed!


This morning, my first sweep was at 1425, about 40 minutes before 
LSR. I quit about an hour later. It was a low-average late season 
morning, with all of the strongest JJs, KKs and even CCs except 
HLAZ-1566 which was just a nubbin of a carrier. There was a post-dawn 
boost, though largely of the stronger Chinese. The Echo on 918 
(Shangdung) was back to at least three transmitters this morning and 
639 CNR1 was walking tall. The big news of the morning was that I had 
CNR1 with an echo on 1359 there are a bazillion 1 and 10 kW 
transmitters there  I'd only heard this frequency at Grayland 
once this year, and never here.


So, I learned several more things... all useless, but interesting.

John Bryant
Orcas Island, WA, USA
Winradio G313e and various Ultralights
Wellbrook Phased Array + Superloops 


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[IRCA] Puyallup, WA TP's for 11-9... Average at Best

2009-11-09 Thread D1028Gary
Hello All,
 
The morning TP propagation here had a fairly nice sunrise enhancement, but  
since the second-tier signals were pretty weak before that boost around  
1450, the final results weren't very impressive.
 
An exception was 648-VOR (playing easy listening music during its  Chinese 
program at 1455) with a booming signal-- for its best level of the  season 
(or maybe for the last 5 days, since it seemed to be gone for most  of the 
season). A nice MP3 was made of the music.
 
The UnID Chinese was back on 594 kHz pestering a weakened JOAK around 1458, 
 with neither signal very strong. JOAK had been booming in for most of the  
morning, however, along with the 747, 774 and 828 NHK powerhouses. 
Recently, the  Chinese co-channels on 594 and 828 kHz seem to prefer the peak 
sunrise  enhancement before showing up. It would be nice to know who they  are. 
 
Despite the promising carrier on 1503 kHz yesterday, the high  band seemed 
anemic indeed this morning, and setting up another backyard PVC  loop (the 
4' collapsible frame model) to chase JOUK and other high-band TP's  proved 
fruitless.
 
In summary, this morning seemed very much like the average November  
propagation, after the fun of the last three days.
 
73, Gary DeBock
 
Spotting receiver:  Modified ICF-2010 (30 loopstick)
Main receiver:  Modified C.Crane SWP (7.5 Slider loopstick + CFJ455K5  
filter)
9' and 4' PVC-framed tuned passive loops (in the back yard)
 
 
   
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[IRCA] Evening TAa

2009-11-09 Thread Marc DeLorenzo
Hi Jim,

I was listening to 648 around the same time as you and noted 2 TA's.  Definite 
RNE Spain on top and someone with pop music underneath.  Maybe BBC?  

Hope you are feeling better!



Marc DeLorenzo
South Dennis, Cape Cod, Mass.
http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228



- Original Message -
From: Jim Renfrew 
To: a...@nrcdxas.org, Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
, a...@wtfda.info

Sent: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 00:06:10 + (UTC)
Subject: [Amdx] Eveming TAa
Jim Renfrew, Holley NY


1805 EST648Strong het, weak audio


Nothing new, but the signals on 702 and 648 will be if I can hear them again 
and ID them.

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Re: [IRCA] Vancouver Island TPs: Nov 9

2009-11-09 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 17:25 11/9/2009, you wrote:

This morning, my first sweep was at 1425, about 40 minutes before LSR. I quit 
about an hour later. It was a low-average late season morning, with all of the 
strongest JJs, KKs and even CCs except HLAZ-1566 which was just a nubbin 
of a carrier. There was a post-dawn boost, though largely of the stronger 
Chinese. The Echo on 918 (Shangdung) was back to at least three transmitters 
this morning and 639 CNR1 was walking tall. The big news of the morning was 
that I had CNR1 with an echo on 1359 there are a bazillion 1 and 10 kW 
transmitters there  I'd only heard this frequency at Grayland once this 
year, and never here.


I got up late after having got up early (1030UT) to check TPs for the LBI 
group.   Actually, it sounded like a good September morning at that time, 
occasionally quite good big gun Japanese, Koreans on 558, 603 and 972, some 
signs of Chinese.   But they didn't make it to the east coast except for a 
little 1566 carrier, left over from the big 1566 carrier here.   

So, didn't get up until again until a few minutes before 1500UT, and except for 
1359, John's observations were about right for here minus an S-unit or 
two...well 1359 minus 2 S-units might also have been about right, hi.

ick



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Re: [IRCA] Wellbrook versus Beverage comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread Rick Kunath

Not sure what went odd about the formatting in the message Chuck?

Chuck Hutton wrote:


The averaging is a form of diversity reception. People have taken measu=
rements and found that fading is not identical (time-wise) when antennas ar=
e separated as little as 1/10 of a wavelength and almost non-identical as s=
eparation reaches 1/4 wavelength. This is a big reason why a long=2C long a=
ntenna like the Beverage seems to deliver more usable signals.


Yes.


As for aperture and sampling=2C size is not such a great way to evaluate th=
ings. A horizontal travelling wave antenna like the Beverage is a very inef=
ficient sampler. While exact figures depend on ground and height above grou=
nd=2C a decent rule of thumb is that it extracts about 10% of the signal co=
mpared to a vertical.


It is inefficient in transfer of energy into the beverage from the 
traveling wave, but the antenna size means that the aperture, i.e. area 
of space that it is coupled into, is still much larger than a typical 
wire loop. Efficiency included. So the effect of averaging the 
ionospheric effects is still there.


I think that's what you just said another way.

Rick Kunath



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Re: [IRCA] Wellbrook versus Beverage comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 18:22 11/8/2009, I wrote:

  What is staggering about the Wellbrook array is that, according to John 
 Bryant, it is competitive with a 600m wire, which is a Beverage antenna, at 
 least above 1000kHz.   With the price of land, that's a serious advantage.


sorry, boss, I crashed the probe into Marsthat's 600 feet of course; ah, to 
be able to proofread...


best wishes,

Nick



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[IRCA] Kona TPs: Nov 9

2009-11-09 Thread cafe

A sleep in for me -- as up at 1625 UTC
Did a quick scan on the E100 slider -
Farda dominating Thailand on 1575 with upbeat M.Eastern
pop music - and several obvious Farda mentions by YL
on the 1/2 hour.

Seemed subdued last night before bed -- with wavery
WWVH signal and significantly less of the Pacific stuff;
1098 and 738 at reduced strength --

Going to start hunting in earnest for Sri Lanka, India, etc
but we all know that this is an obvious vantage point for
that region.


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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2009-11-09 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2009 Nov 09 1806 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 08 November follow.
Solar flux 71 and mid-latitude A-index 7.
The mid-latitude K-index at 1800 UTC on 09 November was 1 (5 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 08   08   08   08   08   08   08   09   09   09   09   09   09   09   
UTC  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 
SFlx 71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   
A-in 00000047777777
K-in 12122232112201
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[IRCA] Radio St Helena Day

2009-11-09 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Is anyone going to be trying for this and recording it

If you are, let me know. I won't be able to listen and am not looking for
recordings to try and request a QSL card, but rather an aircheck
(recording) of my voice being used during the broadcast.

Email me offlist if you want ;)
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Re: [IRCA] Radio America on 700 kHz

2009-11-09 Thread Russ Edmunds
I cannot find any matches either.

Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
wb2...@yahoo.com
FM: Yamaha T-80  Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Mon, 11/9/09, Markku Jussila markku.t.juss...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Markku Jussila markku.t.juss...@gmail.com
 Subject: [IRCA] Radio America on 700 kHz
 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:47 AM
 Hi all
 
 I catched this id on Saturday, November 7th at 0800 UTC on
 700 kHz. I
 haven't found any info on the affiliates, does anyone have
 an idea?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Markku Jussila
 Karperö, Finland
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[IRCA] Evening TAs

2009-11-09 Thread Jim Renfrew

Jim Renfrew, Holley NY

Much flatter conditions tonight

1825 EST909, 864, 1215 are about the only audio signals being heard 
right now.


1827 EST1134HRTVery excellent in English // 7375 khz.  MW signal 
is better!



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[IRCA] Fwd: [mwcircle] Sweden soon to be on 600m

2009-11-09 Thread Nick Hall-Patch





this from MW Circle list:





SM6BGP Granted 600 Meter License

 My name is Gunnar Ivarsson and call sign is SM6BGP and I write this mail
to you just to inform you that I finally got my license now to work on 600
meter band. The paper from our Swedish authorities allows me to work with
10 watts erp between 501 and 507 kHz, and the modes are CW, DIGITAL and
SSB. The location on the transmitter is a my summer qth, a little village
called Orby, locator JO67IK.

On my web site www.500khz.se you can see some pictures of my ongoing
project,
just now I am working hard to get the antenna to work well.
http://www.500khz.se

Best 73's de SM6BGP/Gunnar 

Be sure to take a look at the antenna system he is building!



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[IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
Well, it's sunset,  and there are lots of TA carriers, and audio traces on 
945kHz briefly.  Everything else is also very erratic.

Nick





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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

2009-11-09 Thread Ng1u
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2009 Nov 10 0006 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 09 November follow.
Solar flux 72 and mid-latitude A-index 3.
The mid-latitude K-index at  UTC on 10 November was 1 (05 nT).
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are expected for the next 24 hours.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Date 08   08   08   08   08   09   09   09   09   09   09   09   09   10   
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  
SFlx 71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   71   72   72   
A-in 00004777777733
K-in 12223211220101
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[IRCA] Tecsun PL-380 DSP Receiver-- First Impressions

2009-11-09 Thread D1028Gary
Hello All,
 
As most Ultralight radio enthusiasts are aware, China's premier radio  
manufacturer has released yet another DSP-enhanced AM-FM-SW-LW portable for our 
 
consideration. After a wait of about 17 days after ordering from the 
outstanding  eBay seller Anon-Co, I received my new black PL-380 today in a 
very 
 well-packed shipping box, complete with the standard accessory pack (3  
rechargeable AA batteries, and a USB cable to charge these batteries from a  
computer) plus stereo ear bud phones and a clip-on wire antenna. The  total 
cost for this collection was $45.99, plus $24.00 shipping (for registered  
air mail from Hong Kong).
 
Roy (in Australia) has already given us detailed impressions of his  
PL-380's performance, which were much appreciated. My comments will  hopefully 
augment his reports, and help to clarify some aspects in which  individual 
model differences may be coming into play.
 
Physically the PL-380 has a cabinet the size of a PL-300WT/G8, and may be  
pictured as a PL-310 without a round tuning knob (the PL-380 has an internal 
 thumbwheel, like the PL-300WT/G8 models). 
 
As Roy has reported, the 4734 IC chip's infamous soft mute function  
(plaguing the PL-300WT/G8 models, the PL-310 and the Kchibo D96L) has indeed  
been turned off in the PL-380. This makes it much easier to tune 1 or 2 kHz up 
 or down from a DX station's frequency (to reduce local QRM), without 
having  the DX signal drop off severely. For a transoceanic DXer needing to  
optimize very weak signals in the face of domestic splatter, this is a major  
improvement.
 
As opposed to Roy's report of his PL-380 being down in AM sensitivity  
relative to his PL-310, my new PL-380 seems to have AM sensitivity  equivalent 
to the PL-310 models here, both on the high and low band  frequencies. There 
may be individual differences in the loopstick  construction process for the 
PL-380 models coming into play (such as we have  experienced in the 
PL-300WT/G8 models), resulting in variable AM sensitivity. We  will know for 
sure 
when there is a larger sample base (and a larger sample base  of PL-310's).
 
With the exception of the soft mute function being disabled in the  
PL-380 model, the overall AM-DXing performance of my new PL-380 seems  
identical 
to the PL-310's here. Both models have exceptional 1 kHz DSP  selectivity 
for an inexpensive pocket portable, and should be should  be ideal for one of 
our hobby's ultimate thrills-- chasing TA's or TP's  with a hand-held 
receiver.
 
The FM, SW and LW performance of the new PL-380 will be investigated  in 
the next few days, and propagation permitting, the new model  will chase TP's 
in earnest tomorrow morning. From all appearances, this new  DSP ultralight 
is well worth the $45, and should thrill those DXers who have  been eager to 
chase transoceanic and domestic DX without the soft mute  irritation.
 
73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
 
 
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Re: [IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread Bill Harms

Reminiscent of this morning

Bill

Nick Hall-Patch wrote:

Well, it's sunset,  and there are lots of TA carriers, and audio traces on 
945kHz briefly.  Everything else is also very erratic.

Nick





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Re: [IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread John H. Bryant
0200 from Orcas... some hets plus audio on 1539 (VOA???) and 1575 
Farda both below language recognition.


JOhn B.



At 12:44 AM 11/10/2009 +, you wrote:
Well, it's sunset,  and there are lots of TA carriers, and audio 
traces on 945kHz briefly.  Everything else is also very erratic.


Nick





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[IRCA] In Hawaii - Playing with something new

2009-11-09 Thread cafe
One of the equipment sponsors for the Kona trip
was PK Loop Antennas of Victoria, Australia

As little as 3 weeks prior to the Hawaii trip
I had never heard of them - the owner, a ham
and former telecom-TV engineer decided that
what Australia needed was a gadget to aid AM
listening in their huge country - so he cooked
up some passive and active magnetic loops.

He sent me one of their sample passive loops
that is tunable from 500 to 1800khz -

And I am impressed - have been using it with the
E100 slider -- although I should have waited a
day before giving away the stock E100 -- 
as it is really made for any AM radio or ULR with
its stock ferrite antenna.

I find it particularly useful for boosting what
the E100 can already do as modified by Gary DeBock
in that one can get a signal boost and also phase
out undesirable QRN (noise) and adjacent interference.

I will get some photos of it in action on dxer.ca at some
point. According to the engineer of the company, they
have sold over 3000 units in under 2 years - which
is staggering in this economy.
Their website is www.amradioantennas.com
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Victoria, British Columbia - Blog - Coffee DOT BC DOT CA
DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com
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Re: [IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread Patrick Martin
Croatia 1134 is fair tonight.

Patrick Martin
KGED QSL Manager


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Re: [IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread Patrick Martin
Well, I finally got to the dials a bit ago. With t storms for the past
couple of hours, it wasn't possible. Odd weather. Lincoln City even got
a F-0 Water Spout that came on shore and became a Tornado. Damaged 30-40
homes near the beach. Very rare for the OR/WA coasts.

73,

Patrick

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[IRCA] New TA tonight

2009-11-09 Thread Jim Renfrew

This didn;t seem to make it onto the lists earlier this evening:

Jim Renfrew, Holley NY

Great tip Steve!  Faint traces on 927 might be // to R, Vlaanderen web audio 
on Delicast at 0115z.  Yes, there it is with distinctive music at 0117z, 
Old School Loving (and hot chorus of saxes) same as the web audio, a few 
seconds delayed.  New.  Belgium #2.


Conditions are otherwise fairly flat tonight.  Just the normal strong TAs.

Jim Renfrew, Holley NY USA

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, mwneditor mwnedi...@mwcircle. org wrote:


 From: mwneditor mwnedi...@mwcircle. org
 Subject: [mwcircle] Belgium 927 on extended hours tonight
 To: Mwc mwcir...@yahoogroup s.com
 Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:07 PM



 927khz is still on air after utc.

 Likely on all night - I think they keep the transmitter running if it is
 freezing outside.

 This is the second time this autumn i have noticed them on extended hours.

 73s
 Steve


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Re: [IRCA] [mwcircle] Belgium 927 on extended hours tonight

2009-11-09 Thread Jim Renfrew
Great tip Steve!  Faint traces on 927 might be // to web audio on Delicast at 
0115z.  Yes, there it is with distinctive music at 0117z, Old School Loving 
(and hot chorus of saxes)same as the web audio.  New.  Belgium #2.   
 
Conditions are otherwise fairly flat tonight.  Just the normal strong TAs.  

Jim Renfrew, Holley NY USA

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, mwneditor mwnedi...@mwcircle.org wrote:


From: mwneditor mwnedi...@mwcircle.org
Subject: [mwcircle] Belgium 927 on extended hours tonight
To: Mwc mwcir...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:07 PM


  



927khz is still on air after utc.

Likely on all night - I think they keep the transmitter running if it is
freezing outside.

This is the second time this autumn i have noticed them on extended hours.

73s
Steve


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Re: [IRCA] What was being heard from the other side of the Pond

2009-11-09 Thread texas4421

Hi Paul-
Use to work at WFIL-TV in outside sales.

It is strange, as the owner, a Chinesse woman from Tiwain, who is a believer 
in Buda, runs  Christian programing on the radio. AH, The power of money!


Willis



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Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] What was being heard from the other side of the Pond


Hi Willis

I recently heard 1070 WFLI which was a big thrill. I believe I caught it
just before it switched down from daytime power

1070WFLILookout Mountain, TN; “ WFLI 10-70 Lookout Mountain,
Chattanooga, Tennessee”  50kW/2.5 kW.  Personal FirstW/F2300
25/10

Paul




texas4...@core.com wrote:

Hi Paul-
If you ever hear anything from Chattanooga/ Cleveland, TN market, please 
let us know.

Thanks
Willis, K4APE
Old Fort, TN


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Re: [IRCA] TA...yawn?

2009-11-09 Thread Nigel Pimblett
Interesting, as there was ablolutelely zero from those UAE channels here 
tonight.


As Nick observed, what is there is very erratic.  1134 is pretty steady 
here, but that's it.   The two UK stations on 1089 and 1215 are fair at 
times, and anything else is a minute or so of audio at best.


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, Alberta

John H. Bryant wrote:

0200 from Orcas... some hets plus audio on 1539 (VOA???) and 1575 
Farda both below language recognition.


JOhn B.



At 12:44 AM 11/10/2009 +, you wrote:

Well, it's sunset,  and there are lots of TA carriers, and audio 
traces on 945kHz briefly.  Everything else is also very erratic.


Nick





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[IRCA] Beverage - Wellbrook Array Comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread John H. Bryant

At 18:22 11/8/2009, Chuck Hutton wrote:

Nick Hall-Patch had his ALA-100 array at Grayland with myself and 
Bruce Portzer Oct. 3 and 4. During that period, we compared it with a 
1400' Beverage at 320 degrees that was terminated via 3 six foot 
ground rods. A different antenna than a 600' Beverage, to be sure.


It was no contest at all according to Nick. The Beverage was in a 
league by itself. Perhaps Nick can provide details if needed.


The Beverage provided Chinese adio on at least 111 channels, and 
there are some recordings still in the can that I have not checked.


Chuck

At 6:22AM 11/9 Nick Hall Patch wrote:

I might want to temper what Chuck has said, seeing that I am on the 
record now .


First, the Wellbrook array could hear some things better than the big 
Beverage could. For example, no KFBK-1530 on the array at all except 
in reverse position. 1530 was effectively an Asian channel on the 
array, and I could hear Japanese trading places that were just 
garbage fighting under what was left of KFBK on the Beverage. A 
phased pair of Beverages would possibly (likely?) have levelled that 
playing field.


If there was a distinct source of interference off the back end, the 
Wellbrook could deliver a better signal to splatter ratio. This did 
not always mean a better quality of DX however, because, sorry guys, 
size matters, at least in the antenna world; I won't venture into 
other worlds, but I'm sure the contents of your junk folder will tell 
you all you need to know. I don't really know the technical reasons 
for this, but it makes sense that a big antenna will deliver a more 
robust signal than a smaller one will. In the demodulation process, 
generally the more signal you have, especially in those AM sidebands, 
the better the readability you will have, even if there is relatively 
more interference as well (within limits). This is I believe the 
source of the difference Chuck alludes to.


I've observed this locally, comparing a fine Flag antenna I have 
versus a more haphazard corner fed loop which has about twice the 
enclosed area. The Flag has observably better rejection off the back 
end (thereby nulling all my domestic interference with varying 
degrees of effectiveness), and is a quiet joy to listen with. But the 
corner fed loop, relatively extra splatter and all, often delivers 
more readable DX, as it is enclosing a larger portion of the incoming 
wave fronts, and delivering more raw signal which is demodulated 
better. It's crisper, less murky, i.e. more readable, and it looks 
good on the S-meter too. (and yes, bulking up the Flag's signal with 
a preamplifier to match the corner-fed's signal often doesn't seem to 
be enough)


If it's a matter of real estate, the Wellbrook array wins every time 
however. 50m worth of a straight line will get you a darned nice 
antenna with, in this part of the world, rejection of pretty much all 
of North America's signals, leaving you with a great starting place 
to hear Asia and Oceania. 50m of wire will get you world class 
splatter in the same location, no matter how well you match it to 
your receiver. What is staggering about the Wellbrook array is that, 
according to John Bryant, it is competitive with a 600m wire, which 
is a Beverage antenna, at least above 1000kHz. With the price of 
land, that's a serious advantage.


Having said all that, my feeling (and it is mostly a feeling) at this 
point is that if you have the opportunity to use a man-sized Beverage 
antenna, especially if you can enhance it with phasing as with Neil's 
BOGs, then you will still likely hear better DX than with the smaller 
and truly wonderful phased arrays. It's up to you to decide how many 
more years you will wait until retirement in order to be able to 
afford the land needed for a serious Beverage array at the seashore, hi.


best wishes,

Nick

John Bryant's response 9:00PM 11/9

There have been several good exchanges amongst several DXers relative 
to antenna theory in general and comparing these two very different 
antennas in particular which are not directly relevant to my own 
remarks, so I have not reproduced them here.


As far as Chuck's allusions and Nick's clear report of the comparison 
of his Wellbrook ALA-100 Array and Chuck's favorite 1400' 
well-grounded Beverage, I think that subject is well covered, too.


What Chuck seems to ignore is that the Wellbrook family of Phased 
Arrays has gone rather far beyond the unit that Nick A/Bed with 
Chuck's Beverage: there are currently two new Arrays, both of which 
have been A/Bed at Grayland and each of which represents a very 
noticeable improvement over Nick's ALA-100 Array in the ability to 
hear very weak DX signals from an ocean-side location. The results of 
all of those A/B tests have been reported here; why does Chuck ignore them???


Over recent months, Wellbrook's family of non-resonant, large single 
turn loops has expanded from one to three. These are my personal 
observations of 

Re: [IRCA] Beverage - Wellbrook Array Comparisons

2009-11-09 Thread Chuck Hutton

John - 

 

I was just reporting on the comparison between Nick's unit and the Beverage we 
used. As we didn't have anything else to compare against the Beverage, I 
couldn't very well say anything else.

 

I'll leave the summaries of all the models and the progress reports to you. 
After all, you're in contact with that side of things.

 

As I drew no conclusions about the other antennas (nor mentioned them), I'd 
like to have my comment taken for what it is: a simple comparison of Nick's 
antenna and the Beverage.

 

 

Chuck

 

 

 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:46:15 -0800
 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
 From: bjohnor...@rockisland.com
 Subject: [IRCA] Beverage - Wellbrook Array Comparisons
 
 
 John Bryant's response 9:00PM 11/9
 
CLIP

 

 What Chuck seems to ignore is that the Wellbrook family of Phased 
 Arrays has gone rather far beyond the unit that Nick A/Bed with 
 Chuck's Beverage: there are currently two new Arrays, both of which 
 have been A/Bed at Grayland and each of which represents a very 
 noticeable improvement over Nick's ALA-100 Array in the ability to 
 hear very weak DX signals from an ocean-side location. The results of 
 all of those A/B tests have been reported here; why does Chuck ignore them???
 
 
 John Bryant
 Orcas Island, WA, USA
 Winradio G313e and various Ultralights
 Wellbrook Phased Array + Superloops
 
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