[IRCA] DX Tip for WDXR
1480 KHQN UT, Spanish Fork, fair in and out of jumble with promos for News-Talk KHQN at 0355 EST 3/6. Listed as 113w at night. (PM-OR) Drake R8 1500' Eastern Beverage Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] FCC may help remove electrical noise
There's also been some recent discussions on the air ( TV ) which conclude that once the Baby Boomer generation passes, newspapers, magazines, and books in printed form will also go away. Radio is in the same boat - it's Old Media. If the content you want is on your I-phone, I-Pad, Blackberry, reader or tablet, why go anywhere else ? Russ Edmunds 15 mi NNW of Philadelphia Grid FN20id wb2...@yahoo.com FM: Yamaha T-80 Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'; Grundig G8 AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010's barefoot --- On Tue, 3/5/13, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net Subject: Re: [IRCA] FCC may help remove electrical noise To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2013, 11:54 PM It is interesting this question has come up now as I was discussing the future of MW AM just the other day with a CE with so many Canadians moving to FM. Here in the US, there are too many stations. As most do not make much of a profit and the FM generally supports the AM, if available. If it is a stand-alone AM, many seem to fail. Then they return with more programming that will fail again and again. With all of the FCC updates, there seem to be more and more AM stations going to an all sports format. Sure the electrical noise needs to be addressed, but better programming is the real problem with AM radio. I mentor 3 kids that go to our church. Two that are 17 and the other in college at 18 and none of them ever listen to the radio period! Their mother listens to FM on a rare occasion. She is 41. I have asked if High School or College kids listen to the radio and the answer is always, not that they know of. What happens once our generation is gone.? I am 64. Some people I know in radio, still live in the 1960s bubble. They cannot understand why anyone would not listen to radio. It is really sad what has happened to so much of the broadcasting industry. Old call letters have been thrown away. So many corporate owners only care about the bottomline. So much of the classic history is gone. When I worked in radio in the 70s, Radio was RADIO. Live programming and local. At least here in Clatsop County some stations still are pretty local. Just my take on it. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Talk Radio at Work
Well, stations have tried the other end of the political spectrum with networks like Air America and the went belly up because nobody listened to them. People listen to what works for them. All the Fairness Doctrine was a another try by the government to mandate things it should stay out of. Thankfully it failed. But then if it had worked, maybe TV networks like MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC,. and all the others with the exception of Fox would have have been made to present both sides of the news. I listen to radio all the time, both AM, FM, and shortwave. I listen to local talk radio here in WV and the morning slot between 10 AM and noon is filled nicely with a very balanced approached to many topics. It also has a very large audience. I also listen to another station before that that carries a nationally syndicated show between 6 and 10 that is extremely entertaining - The Big Show with John Boy and Billy out of Charlotte. I also watch CBS affiliates for local and national news, mainly because CBS seems to less biased than either ABC or NBC and I enjoy CBS's programming schedule. It’s a matter of individual tastes as to what we listen to. I for one would rather see a lot more local programming rather than all the sports talk and other brokered stuff that clutters up the evening and late night broadcasts and would prefer we went back to the late 50's and early 60's when there really were clear and regional channels and people actually had to use real call letters and ID at least at the top and bottom of the hour. Larry K8YYY Shinnston, WV ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] FCC may help remove electrical noise
Im 29 years old.. and i guess Im different. i listen to the radio alot.. but I grew up just before computers and the internet became real popular... and I ended up working in radio broadcasting.. including some AM radio stations Paul On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Martin Foltz martinfo...@cox.net wrote: I don't think my kids listen to radio much and they're in their 30's. I only listen when I'm in the car or DXing. I know some people can listen at work but at a previous employer everyone played FM for music in the background. You can't work and listen to talk radio or you will get nothing done. Martin Foltz Mission Viejo CA Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 04:54:12 GMT From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] FCC may help remove electrical noise Message-ID: snt128-ds18b31666fe9c6263a59f40c8...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII It is interesting this question has come up now as I was discussing the future of MW AM just the other day with a CE with so many Canadians moving to FM. Here in the US, there are too many stations. As most do not make much of a profit and the FM generally supports the AM, if available. If it is a stand-alone AM, many seem to fail. Then they return with more programming that will fail again and again. With all of the FCC updates, there seem to be more and more AM stations going to an all sports format. Sure the electrical noise needs to be addressed, but better programming is the real problem with AM radio. I mentor 3 kids that go to our church. Two that are 17 and the other in college at 18 and none of them ever listen to the radio period! Their mother listens to FM on a rare occasion. She is 41. I have asked if High School or College kids listen to the radio and the answer is always, not that they know of. What happens once our generation is gone.? I am 64. Some people I know in radio, still live in the 1960s bubble. They cannot understand why anyone would not listen to radio. It is really sad what has happened to so much of the broadcasting industry. Old call letters have been thrown away. So many corporate owners only care about the bottomline. So much of the classic history is gone. When I worked in radio in the 70s, Radio was RADIO. Live programming and local. At least here in Clatsop County some stations still are pretty local. Just my take on it. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] TP 5 Mar; Victoria version
Hi Nick, Not even at the levels Gary was getting. I'm surprised he didn't hear the low band NHK2s, as that's practically all I heard, Both of the low-band NHK2 big guns suffer from major splatter issues here, so they have trouble being heard even on decent mornings. 747-JOIB is peppered with 750-Portland splatter (a daytimer here), and 774-JOUB is usually mangled by 770-Seattle. This morning's TP results here were a dreary repeat of yesterday, but without any unusual audio from 1575-VOA. It only reached a poor-fair level around 1425, along with similar audio from 972-HLCA at the same time. All of the other Asians stayed in hibernation. 73, Gary -Original Message- From: Nick Hall-Patch n...@ieee.org To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 8:29 pm Subject: [IRCA] TP 5 Mar; Victoria version Not even at the levels Gary was getting. I'm surprised he didn't hear the low band NHK2s, as that's practically all I heard, and it was actually a sunrise enhancement, best around 1440UT, along with 1575UT; earlier, not nearly as good pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, at least briefly): not at all reasonable audio at times during the period (much of it understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise): nope not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or noise could be understood by a native speaker: dream on, even at this level Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in talk or music) : 567 JOIK? man talking JJ inflection 1427UT; no 594 // 738 woman talking 1423UT 747 JOIB woman talking //774 1444UT 774 JOUB woman talking //747 1443UT 1575 VoA???woman talking 1442UT Strongish het, no audio (either undermodulated or ravaged by splatter): best wishes, Nick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] FCC may help remove electrical noise
Being 64 now, I guess I am old fashioned. I have never been a person who takes change easily. I loved radio when I worked in it. I never made a lot of money, but I was into it for the enjoyment. I figured I was doing something to help people. Either announcing on the air of a bake sale or the lost dog, taking requests, or covering that boring city council meeting that no one cared about, but we were still seaving our community. Radio was people . People doing things for other people. Being in a town like Astoria or Dallas OR, or any small town, you knew the advertisers, the listeners, and so on. All three AMers in Clatsop Country has three owners. They all had their style. KSWB Seaside, had their studios on the highway, with the nice sign out front where you could stop off, have a cup of coffee and visit with Ken, or BG, or Bob. They had their outer office, station meetings, parties, and so on. The station had real D.J.s, the guy down the street. You knew him, their kids, as your kids went to school with their kids. The station was Top 40 Rock. Now KSWB is in a hole in the wall upstairs on Broadway. Out of site, a couple DJs. Sure the owner is still local, but he has had a time keeping the station on the air now with a jillion other competing radio stations. The format is Oldies now. Not the same as when real radio was here, but at least they are local and do their own format. Astoria where I worked, both AMs are co owned, where KVAS had a separate owner and was live a lot of the time. They did run some automation, but again, a small station downtown where a person could come in a see the DJ, shoot the breeze, have a cup of coffee. KVAS was CW, which they still are, but all satellite now. Over across town was KAST, another small pop music station, had a separate local owner like KVAS. Today, KAST is satellite talk. I knew all of the owners. Sure they competed for the ad money, but that was radio to me. KAST was always the number one station. They were the oldest going back to 1925. They were the EAS station They had a generator, if the power was off. A few years ago, they moved their studios to Warrenton. Now if the Warrenton power is off, they are off too. They are not the emergency station any longer. They lost that to a local listener supported FM. It is sad what has happened to so much of the industry. Also gone are the days when that local high school kid could find a part time job at the local station. That rarely happens any longer. They don't have the staff any longer. Sure, there are still a few of the old fashioned stations around. In DXing I catch one once in a while that really sounds local. They are really a part of the community. My old boss Chuck Farmer woul be rolling over in his grave if he knew what has happened to the industry. But things change. Like it or not, we are stuck with the statis quo. What happens down the road, is anyones guess. But radio that many or us grew up with and worked in is becoming a thing of the past. On a DXing point, gone are the large staffs with a fulltime CE, so getting a QSL out of many stations is hard to do. Locally, all 3 AM stations in Clatsop County were good verifiers. KSWB had a letter, KVAS, the same and early on KAST had a QSL card, and later a letter. Today, it is near to impossible to get a QSL out of KSWB. I had to go there and have them sign a ppc for a Finnish DXer sometime back. KAST/KVAS co owned only answers via e mail. But I will say, when we have had conventions here, all three stations have been very nice and we have had tours. I do appreciate that. It helps to know the people too. I don't blame the people in radio. They are trying to make a living just like the rest of us. However, I do blame the FCC for allowing so many stations on the air, that they all have a tough time making ends meet. There are just too many stations for the ad money. But I am glad I worked and DXed in the better days in broadcasting. I smile looking through the wonderful QSL memories. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DX Tip for WDXR
I've looked for this here in IL, but no luck. I also see that almost no one is reporting KRAE which has been reasonably common on 1480 for me this season. I've not had Idaho here in several years, in spite of this antenna array which aims right at it. 73 KAZ -Original Message- From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net Sent: Mar 6, 2013 3:09 AM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com, nancyjohn...@prodigy.net Subject: [IRCA] DX Tip for WDXR 1480 KHQN UT, Spanish Fork, fair in and out of jumble with promos for News-Talk KHQN at 0355 EST 3/6. Listed as 113w at night. (PM-OR) Drake R8 1500' Eastern Beverage Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DX Tip for WDXR
Kaz, For some reason, KHQN was not in my logbook. It seems I have never logged them, or at least I have no record of it. That is strange, as the station goes back to at least the 60s or 70s when the dial was more open and they were a 1 KW daytimer. Strange I did not have them. The same was true about WGY. I had no record of ever logging them in AK or OR until the 90s, when I nabbed them. WGY is heard on occasion u/KGO off the Eastern Beverage, even today. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Talk Radio at Work
I agree with Larry that local programming is what is really missing from radio. But strongly disagree that the government has no role in insuring that citizens are well informed, and exposed to both sides of any issue. The Fairness Doctrine provided at least a measure of that to the airwaves, and some civility to our political discussions. Broadcasters use a publicly owned resource (RF spectrum) and are granted a license to use it for commerce. Part of that agreement is that it should be used in the public good--- and they have a responsibility to do so. While the majority of listeners might prefer to hear the views of the Right, that doesn't mean that broadcasters don't have a responsibility to present opposing ideas. Or at least they did under the Fairness Doctrine. Now it's just more mindless group-think where no one is ever exposed to other ideas, viewpoints, or belief systems. History shows that isn't healthy for a Democracy. The viewpoint that commercial success alone should determine broadcast content is highly flawed. It's like people who think that the Constitution is there to protect the rights of the majority. Nonsense. The Constitution was written to protect the rights of the /minority. /The majority rarely needs their rights protected. The Fairness Doctrine existed to prevent exactly the kind of extremism that we currently see in our news coverage. If you watch only Fox News, or listen to Rush, then you only get one side of any issue. Ditto if you tune in only to MSNBC. A far better approach, if you really care about Democracy is to expose the audience to both points of view. Ditto (irony intended) for deregulation of media ownership rules. Want and enjoy local programming--well, you can thank deregulation for the lack of it. In the Birmingham market, two companies own nearly all the radio stations in the market---and it's dominated by satellite based programming. During an emergency, such as our huge tornado outbreak in 2011, it was almost impossible to get any local news from radio. If media ownership rules had remained in place, and the Fairness Doctrine intact, you'd have a much different landscape to listen to now on the AM dial. The real power of radio is in local content---sadly, that's almost entirely lacking now. And gone with it, I fear the sense of being part of a small community. Instead, our Ipads and Twitter accounts allow us to be citizens of the global community---and I don't think that is an acceptable trade off. For those who supported the deregulation of radio, and the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine, I wonder if you envisioned this result back then? Many liberal thinkers of the time did. Maybe hearing some ideas from those darn lefties isn't such a bad thing after all. 73, Les N1LF On 3/6/2013 6:16 AM, Larry R Fravel wrote: Larry K8YYY ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] WWV Solar Report
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt :Issued: 2013 Mar 06 1805 UTC # Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center # # Geophysical Alert Message # Solar-terrestrial indices for 05 March follow. Solar flux 118 and estimated planetary A-index 4. The estimated planetary K-index at 1800 UTC on 06 March was 1. No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours. No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Date 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 06 06 06 06 06 06 06 UTC 0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 SFlx 114 114 114 114 114 114 118 118 118 118 118 118 118 118 A-in 44444444444444 K-in 31011011120001 Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] WWV Solar Report
:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt :Issued: 2013 Mar 07 0005 UTC # Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center # # Geophysical Alert Message # Solar-terrestrial indices for 06 March follow. Solar flux 114 and estimated planetary A-index 3. The estimated planetary K-index at UTC on 07 March was 1. No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours. No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Trends -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Date 05 05 05 05 05 06 06 06 06 06 06 06 06 07 UTC 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 SFlx 114 114 114 114 118 118 118 118 118 118 118 118 114 114 A-in 44444444444433 K-in 01101112000111 Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] TP 6 Mar; Victoria version
Well, dreary described this morning well, Gary. Three audios, all very weak, woman talking on 738 (possibly Tahiti), 594 w/another woman talking, possibly JJ inflection, and 828 w/ a man talking. These were heard at different times between 1420 and 1440UT, with no apparent enhancement at all.The geomagnetic conditions don't look that bad, but DX conditions sure arethe late winter anomaly? (hi) best wishes, Nick At 14:53 06-03-13, Gary wrote: Hi Nick, Not even at the levels Gary was getting. I'm surprised he didn't hear the low band NHK2s, as that's practically all I heard, Both of the low-band NHK2 big guns suffer from major splatter issues here, so they have trouble being heard even on decent mornings. 747-JOIB is peppered with 750-Portland splatter (a daytimer here), and 774-JOUB is usually mangled by 770-Seattle. This morning's TP results here were a dreary repeat of yesterday, but without any unusual audio from 1575-VOA. It only reached a poor-fair level around 1425, along with similar audio from 972-HLCA at the same time. All of the other Asians stayed in hibernation. 73, Gary -Original Message- From: Nick Hall-Patch n...@ieee.org To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tue, Mar 5, 2013 8:29 pm Subject: [IRCA] TP 5 Mar; Victoria version Not even at the levels Gary was getting. I'm surprised he didn't hear the low band NHK2s, as that's practically all I heard, and it was actually a sunrise enhancement, best around 1440UT, along with 1575UT; earlier, not nearly as good pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, at least briefly): not at all reasonable audio at times during the period (much of it understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise): nope not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or noise could be understood by a native speaker: dream on, even at this level Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in talk or music) : 567 JOIK? man talking JJ inflection 1427UT; no 594 // 738 woman talking 1423UT 747 JOIB woman talking //774 1444UT 774 JOUB woman talking //747 1443UT 1575 VoA???woman talking 1442UT Strongish het, no audio (either undermodulated or ravaged by splatter): best wishes, Nick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] More MWDx from South Africa
Last night was good for reception of Radio Botswana: 531 kHZ RB Maun North Western Bot. 18.52 UTC 50kW Fair reception distance 933 miles 625Selebi Pikwe 100kW Central Bot. 02.50 UTC Fair reception 982 miles. Four other stations also logged. Maun was the catch of the evening. It is is not often audible and is a long way away. Wally Greig Cape Town Sony ICF - SW35 and home built MW loop antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
