Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Rob Keeney]

Friday night I logged WAYS with CBS Sports Radio and WDCP s/off, although
their programming did continue(CH?).  The noise never reached a level I
could DF.  Saturday night and last night produced some better results.
Several times the noise reached a level on my PL-390 that allowed me to
get a decent bearing of approx 310º.   That doesn't jive too well with what
Les and Glenn are reporting.  It's very possible my radio's DF ability is
not very reliable.  I may have to drag out my old Crane portable to see if
it gives me a good bearing tonight.

Rob Keeney
Goose Creek SC
EM92xx


On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Les Rayburn  wrote:

> Maybe someone in GA would help out? I’m going to be in the Atlanta area on
> Friday—if we don’t have an answer by then, I might be tempted to drive
> South and try to solve the mystery directly.
>
> Maylene is part of Alabaster, but was once a separateAlabaster community.
> It’s near Alabaster and Helena—just off Highway 17. Not far from Birmingham.
>
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
>
> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>
> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop,
> Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Glenn Hauser  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like your 120/300 bearing would be closest to WAYS Macon GA, or
> maybe further south WSEM Donalsonville GA, both 1 kW daytimers. It`s so
> weak here I would not be surprised if it`s that far away.
> >
> > BTW, Maylene is not in my Rand McNally large scale road atlas, nor the
> index. But I could find Alabaster.  73, Glenn Hauser, OK
> > 
> > On Mon, 2/8/16, Les Rayburn  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint Rick,
> > but your hypothesis needs some adjustment.
> > Just
> > went outside in the back yard with a Sangean PR-DR portable.
> > The mystery signal on 1500 KHz was very loud—dominating
> > the channel just after sunset at 6:20 PM Central
> > Time.
> > The
> > maximum signal off the ends of the loop (sides of the
> > portable radio) was obtained at a bearing of roughly 300
> > degrees (NW) or 120 SE.
> > I
> > checked several times to be sure that there was not a peak
> > towards due North, and verified that the mystery signal did
> > not peak in that direction.
> > What
> > does that do to the list of suspects?
> > BTW,
> > received an e-mail saying the following:
> > I have a low
> > cost app on both Android and iPhone called SigTrax that may
> > be a benefit to you and the others who are looking for
> > this signal.
> > SigTrax allows you to
> > plot bearing on a map image and computes and crosspoints
> > where the bearing plots intersect.  It's a
> > perfect solution for triangulating signals from multiple
> > points and different users. You can also save the bearings
> > in an archive and recall and update them at any
> > time.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > 121 Mayfair Park
> > Maylene, AL
> > EM63nf
> >
> >
> > On Feb 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Rick Dau 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Glenn says he's
> > getting it strongest on a 95 degree bearing from Enid.
> >  Tim, you say that you're only hearing it on your south
> > antenna.  Les, from your QTH in Maylene, I would suggest
> > pointing your antenna due north.  If my suspicion is
> > correct, the warble should almost be blowing your doors
> > off.
> >
> > 73,
> > Rick Dau (loves playing the sleuth)
> > South Omaha, Nebraska
> > EN21af
> > Http://www.dxworld.com/bcblog.html
> > 
> >
> > Les,
> >
> > I'm not setup with a rotatable
> > loop so I'm unable to get a bearing on this
> > other than confirming
> > that I only hear it on my south antenna.  I know, not
> > very helpful..
> >
> > 73,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > Tim,
> >
> > Thank you for posting
> > this. Extremely helpful for both DX’ers and members
> > of the broadcast
> > engineering community who are attempting to help narrow
> > down the station with the
> > problem.
> >
> > Do you have a bearing on
> > the station from your QTH?
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> >
> > Just so everyone's on the same
> > page, here's a recording of the
> > interference
> > that's in question,
> > which I assume is what everyone else is referring to.
> > I have issue with calling
> > this a "warbler" or "warbling" since
> > I
> > immediately think of
> > the Cuban transmitters with the wobbling carrier
> > that
> > sounds like someone
> > flexing a piece of sheet metal.  This sounds nothing
> > like that.  The noise is
> > present in both the upper and lower sideband and
> > it appears at 500 hz
> > intervals centered about the carrier.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4opnMHq88
> >
> > 73,
> > Tim Tromp
> > West Michigan
> >
> >
> > Excellent information Glenn. We went to
> > Tennessee yesterday on business,
> > and I brought along a portable to get
> > some DF bearings. The warbler
> > noise
> > was very loud on

[IRCA] AM BCB DX…ELAD Captures………3 NEW Stations Heard

[Robert Ross]

Hi Guys:


 Here is my report for the last few days of ELAD Captures. 3 NEW 
Stations Logged and a few Relogs that aren't heard here too often.

Included in this report is AM BCB Station # 1800 heard. Also included here is 
one LONGWAVE BROADCAST Station from Luxembourg that was logged last night.

RECEIVER….ELAD FDM-S2 SDR

ANTENNA…WELLBROOK ALA-1530LNP Imperium Loop

AM LOG TOTALS are now………..1801 Stations Heard

73ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA

**
1380  KAGE  Winona, MINNESOTA  Feb/04/16  1658 EST   EE   FAIR
Classic C/W Music 16580-1700 EST. Male DJ with ID @ 1700 as
"Real Country" Slogan sung out.  and "AM 1380 KG Country - KAGE
Winona". Into AP News @ 1700 by Male Announcer.

NEW STN 2.2 kW/28 Watts
ROSS, ON.
**
1190  WNWC  Sun Prairie, WISCONSIN  Feb/04/16  1658 ESTEEGOOD
Relig Talk 1658-1700 EST. Female DJ with ID @ 1700 as "Thanks for listening
to FAITH 1190 - WNWC Sun Prairie-Madison. A Listener Supported ministry of 
University of North Western - St. Paul". Into SRN News @ 1700.

NEW STNAM BCB # 1800 Logged 4.8 kW/21 Watts
ROSS, ON.
**
1490  WDAN  Danville, ILLINOIS   Feb/06/16  1700 EST   EE   FAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 1700 EST as "1490 WDAN". Into Weather Forecast.

NEW STN  GRAVEYARDER # 196  1 kW
ROSS, ON.
**
1450  KATE  Albert Lea, MINNESOTA  Feb/04/16   1700 ESTEE   GOOD
ID by Male DJ @ 1700 EST. "AM 1450 KATE - Albert Lea". 
Into ABC News @ 1700 EST.

RELOG 1 kW
ROSS, ON.
**
1460  KXNO  Des Moines, IOWA  Feb/04/16   1700 EST EEGOOD
"KXNO" Ids by Male DJ @ 1700 EST. Mentioned " An I-Heart Radio Station".
Into Sports talk. "Des Moines Sports Station - 1460 KXNO" ID.

RELOG5 kW
ROSS, ON.
**
1470  KWAY  Waverly, IOWA  Feb/04/16  1658 ESTEEGOOD
Classic C/W Music @ 1658-1700 EST.  ID as "Bremer County's Home and Daily
News Source - The WINNER - AM 1470". Into more C/W Music.

RELOG  1 kW/61 Watts
ROSS, ON.
**
1440 WGVL  Greenville, SC   Feb/05/16  1800 EST   EEFAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 1800 EST. "WGVL - Greenville 1410 AM and FM".
Into FOX Sports talk.

RELOG   5 kW
ROSS, ON.
**
1520  KSIB Creston, IOWA  Feb/07/16  0900 EST EE   FAIR
Male DJ with ID as "1520 KSIB". Into NBC Sports Talk.
Not heard in a Long Time!!

RELOG   1 kW DAYTIMER
ROSS, ON.
**
234  RTL  Beidweiler, LUXEMBOURG  Feb/08/16  0352 UTC  FRENCH  FAIR
Male and Female Announcers with FRENCH Talk @ 0352-0354 UTC. Reading
various news items and commentary. Instrumental musical interlude @ 0354-55.
Male spoke FF -355 and into more music. Female with slogan in French as …..
"Toujours avec vous" @ 0358 UTC.

RELOG   2000 kW
ROSS, ON.
***


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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Fred Schroyer]

Hi all, the "someone in SW PA" is me; sorry I forgot to give my QTH in an
earlier posting! To add a little more: I'm in Waynesburg, PA 15370, in
extreme SW PA, almost at the intersection of 40N / 80W. Using my CCrane
Skywave, walking around the yard, every night at various times between 7
and midnight EST, I usually hear our mystery noise behind WFED.
Consistently, I get sharp & total nulls nearly East-West (skewed a couple
of degrees toward ENE-WSW, as measured with my iPhone's compass), so that
indicates the noise source could be roughly along the parallel of 40N. The
other night on my way home from work in nearby Morgantown, WV, I heard it
weakly on the car radio, behind WFED & others before sunset, around 1730,
when skip was strongest eastward (NYC, Canadians, Virginia). If we get
enough data points, I guess we'll nail the curious thing!




Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 18:34:08 -0900
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America

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Yahoo Group - abdx@yahoogroups_com" ,
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Someone in SW Pennsylvania said it was in an east/west line from them, so
how far south can this be?
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[IRCA] Alberta TPs for 8 Feb 2016

[Nigel Pimblett]

VOA on 1575 stood out again today, with a good solid signal from 1430 tune
in to 1450 when it started downward.   Korea on 1566 managed some marginal
audio around 1440, but today it was Taiwan (presumed) on 1557 that took
second place.  Heard EZL type vocals there from 1435 to 1450.  1593 never
quite made audio this morning (though both the 1593.00 and 1592.96 carriers
were quite decent).   Earlier on I heard traces of what sounded like 4BC on
1116 at 1428. 1098 also had very weak traces of audio around 1430, but
no clues on an ID for that one.

Rather like the TAs last night, signals faded very rapidly.   They started
downward at about 1450, and by 1455 all the audio, and most of the carriers
were gone.   This was sometime before our 1507 sunrise.

73,

Nigel Pimblett
DXing in Lamont, AB
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[IRCA] 8th Feb Victoria TP's a sleep through...

[coffee_canuck]

As of 1700 UTC this AM there was still activity on 1566khz - but I was just 
getting out of the shower.

Nigel's observations indicate it might have been interesting. 

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Les Rayburn]

My understanding is that the best way to obtain a bearing to a station is the 
procedure that Fred outlined below. 

Using a bi-directional loop, rotate the portable radio or loop antenna until 
you achieve the deepest null on the desired station (or mystery signal in our 
case). Make a note of this bearing. 

Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to the station which 
will be 180 degrees from the deepest null point. So if the deepest nulls runs 
due North and South from your location, the desired station will be on a due 
East/West line. 

I fully expect some outliers with these bearings. Lots of things can account 
for this. Local noise, terrain, and overly broad patterns in loop antennas. But 
if we get enough people to report their bearings, we’ll be able to quickly see 
which bearings are outliers and discard them from the data. 

I’m going to drive to a nearby field that is flat, open, and free from local 
noise sources to try again tonight. I want to be sure that local factors are 
not affecting my own bearing reports. Fortunately, there is a nearby sod farm 
that is perfect for that. 

What we need are more people to report on this. If you’re located in the 
Eastern US or Canada, or the Midwest, your reports are needed. Please take a 
few moments tonight to go outside with a portable radio and try to obtain a 
bearing. We could especially use DX’ers in Florida or the Gulf Coast. 

Tim has been kind enough to post a YouTube video to give  you an idea of what 
this mysterious signal sounds like: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4opnMHq88&spfreload=1

We generally believe that it’s being caused by a transmitter malfunction, or 
problem in the audio chain at the station resulting in the signal being 
over-modulated. 

Your help in solving the mystery is greatly appreciated. Darn those meddling 
kids! 





73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. 

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook 
Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 


> On Feb 8, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Fred Schroyer  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, the "someone in SW PA" is me; sorry I forgot to give my QTH in an
> earlier posting! To add a little more: I'm in Waynesburg, PA 15370, in
> extreme SW PA, almost at the intersection of 40N / 80W. Using my CCrane
> Skywave, walking around the yard, every night at various times between 7
> and midnight EST, I usually hear our mystery noise behind WFED.
> Consistently, I get sharp & total nulls nearly East-West (skewed a couple
> of degrees toward ENE-WSW, as measured with my iPhone's compass), so that
> indicates the noise source could be roughly along the parallel of 40N. The
> other night on my way home from work in nearby Morgantown, WV, I heard it
> weakly on the car radio, behind WFED & others before sunset, around 1730,
> when skip was strongest eastward (NYC, Canadians, Virginia). If we get
> enough data points, I guess we'll nail the curious thing!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 18:34:08 -0900
> From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> Cc: "Name missing - wghauser@yahoo_com" ,   "ABDX
>Yahoo Group - abdx@yahoogroups_com" ,
> "National
>Radio Club NRC am@nrcdxas_org" 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [dxld] Re: 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Someone in SW Pennsylvania said it was in an east/west line from them, so
> how far south can this be?
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Chuck Hutton]

Les:

The bearing to the station should be 90 degrees from the null. Example: if the 
null is north/south, the station bearing is east/west which is 90 degrees from 
the null.

Chuck


From: IRCA  on behalf of Les Rayburn 

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Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to the station which 
will be 180 degrees from the deepest null point. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook 
Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.


> On Feb 8, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Fred Schroyer  wrote:
>
> Hi all, the "someone in SW PA" is me; sorry I forgot to give my QTH in an
> earlier posting! To add a little more: I'm in Waynesburg, PA 15370, in
> extreme SW PA, almost at the intersection of 40N / 80W. Using my CCrane
> Skywave, walking around the yard, every night at various times between 7
> and midnight EST, I usually hear our mystery noise behind WFED.
> Consistently, I get sharp & total nulls nearly East-West (skewed a couple
> of degrees toward ENE-WSW, as measured with my iPhone's compass), so that
> indicates the noise source could be roughly along the parallel of 40N. The
> other night on my way home from work in nearby Morgantown, WV, I heard it
> weakly on the car radio, behind WFED & others before sunset, around 1730,
> when skip was strongest eastward (NYC, Canadians, Virginia). If we get
> enough data points, I guess we'll nail the curious thing!
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 18:34:08 -0900
> From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> Cc: "Name missing - wghauser@yahoo_com" ,   "ABDX
>Yahoo Group - abdx@yahoogroups_com" ,
> "National
>Radio Club NRC am@nrcdxas_org" 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [dxld] Re: 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Someone in SW Pennsylvania said it was in an east/west line from them, so
> how far south can this be?
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
I agree there could be a considerable margin of error when taking bearings, and 
the need for more and more readings from a wide variety of locations.

I would add the need for daytime observations at groundwave range.

You mean 90 degrees here, not 180! ---

``Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to the station 
which will be 180 degrees from the deepest null point. So if the deepest nulls 
runs due North and South from your location, the desired station will be on a 
due East/West line.``

73, Glenn Hauser


On Mon, 2/8/16, Les Rayburn  wrote:

 My understanding is that the best way
 to obtain a bearing to a station is the procedure that Fred
 outlined below. 
 
 Using a bi-directional loop, rotate the portable radio or
 loop antenna until you achieve the deepest null on the
 desired station (or mystery signal in our case). Make a note
 of this bearing. 
 
 Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to
 the station which will be 180 degrees from the deepest null
 point. So if the deepest nulls runs due North and South from
 your location, the desired station will be on a due
 East/West line. 
 
 I fully expect some outliers with these bearings. Lots of
 things can account for this. Local noise, terrain, and
 overly broad patterns in loop antennas. But if we get enough
 people to report their bearings, we’ll be able to quickly
 see which bearings are outliers and discard them from the
 data. 
 
 I’m going to drive to a nearby field that is flat, open,
 and free from local noise sources to try again tonight. I
 want to be sure that local factors are not affecting my own
 bearing reports. Fortunately, there is a nearby sod farm
 that is perfect for that. 
 
 What we need are more people to report on this. If you’re
 located in the Eastern US or Canada, or the Midwest, your
 reports are needed. Please take a few moments tonight to go
 outside with a portable radio and try to obtain a bearing.
 We could especially use DX’ers in Florida or the Gulf
 Coast. 
 
 Tim has been kind enough to post a YouTube video to
 give  you an idea of what this mysterious signal sounds
 like: 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4opnMHq88&spfreload=1
 
 We generally believe that it’s being caused by a
 transmitter malfunction, or problem in the audio chain at
 the station resulting in the signal being over-modulated. 
 
 Your help in solving the mystery is greatly appreciated.
 Darn those meddling kids! 
 
 
 
 
 
 73,
 
 Les Rayburn, N1LF
 121 Mayfair Park
 Maylene, AL 
 EM63nf
--- End Message ---
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[IRCA] Fwd: 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Les Rayburn]

Thanks Chuck! 

Now I need to recheck my bearings for sure! 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. 

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, Wellbrook 
Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Chuck Hutton 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"
> Date: February 8, 2016 at 12:10:27 PM CST
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
> 
> Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
> 
> 
> Les:
> 
> The bearing to the station should be 90 degrees from the null. Example: if 
> the null is north/south, the station bearing is east/west which is 90 degrees 
> from the null.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Les Rayburn 
> 
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 5:49 PM
> To: IRCA Radio List - irca@hard-core-dx_com
> Cc: ABDX Yahoo Group - abdx@yahoogroups_com; AMFMTVDX - 
> amfmtvdx@mailman_qth_net; WTFDA AM List - amdx@lists_wtfda_info; National 
> Radio Club NRC am@nrcdxas_org
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"
> 
> 
> Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to the station 
> which will be 180 degrees from the deepest null point. 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL
> EM63nf
> 
> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
> 
> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, 
> Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Fred Schroyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, the "someone in SW PA" is me; sorry I forgot to give my QTH in an
>> earlier posting! To add a little more: I'm in Waynesburg, PA 15370, in
>> extreme SW PA, almost at the intersection of 40N / 80W. Using my CCrane
>> Skywave, walking around the yard, every night at various times between 7
>> and midnight EST, I usually hear our mystery noise behind WFED.
>> Consistently, I get sharp & total nulls nearly East-West (skewed a couple
>> of degrees toward ENE-WSW, as measured with my iPhone's compass), so that
>> indicates the noise source could be roughly along the parallel of 40N. The
>> other night on my way home from work in nearby Morgantown, WV, I heard it
>> weakly on the car radio, behind WFED & others before sunset, around 1730,
>> when skip was strongest eastward (NYC, Canadians, Virginia). If we get
>> enough data points, I guess we'll nail the curious thing!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2016 18:34:08 -0900
>> From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
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>> Cc: "Name missing - wghauser@yahoo_com" ,   "ABDX
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>> Someone in SW Pennsylvania said it was in an east/west line from them, so
>> how far south can this be?
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Re: [IRCA] 8th Feb Victoria TP's a sleep through...

[Walter Salmaniw]

I checked around 15:00 and there was little of interest.  774 and 1566 were
there in audio, but not very strong, and lots of local splatter.
73,...Walt (Victoria)

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> As of 1700 UTC this AM there was still activity on 1566khz - but I was
> just getting out of the shower.
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> Nigel's observations indicate it might have been interesting.
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[IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Walter Salmaniw]

Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
 73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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[IRCA] long time, no post

[Stan Horzepa]

I have not posted here much in awhile, but I am working from home today 
twiddling my thumbs waiting for some files from work to be e-mailed to 
me, so while I am waiting, I thought I'd post.


A week or so ago, there was a brief discussion about the dearth of 
stations on 1710. That frequency is blank in my log, so I started 
monitoring 1710 intently for a couple of days and managed to hear the 
Springfield (MA) Armory National Historic Site TIS, 40 miles away.


I logged number 300 in my AM log just before the new year.

My main tools the past year were an Elecraft KX3, C.Crane Skywave and 
the stock radio in my 2007 Subaru Outback Sport. Antennas were a Terk 
Advantage, C.Crane Twin Coil Ferrite and a 40-meter inverted vee... the 
first two are indoors, the third is outdoors.


My best loggings mileage-wise the past year were KXEL (996 miles from 
the Subaru on the way to work), WBOB (924 miles), three Cubans (1300 to 
1400 miles). I also logged a bunch of distant low-power stations, but 
whenever I mention those, some folks chime in claiming that those 
stations must have been running daytime power, so I won't bother 
mentioning them.


I plan to enhance my outdoor antenna farm after this winter ends.

73,

Stan, WA1LOU

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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[coffee_canuck]

Thank you for that - gone too soon.

Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC

> On Feb 8, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
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> Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
> the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
> 73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Les Rayburn]

John was a fantastic DX’er and a real credit to the hobby. Always generous with 
his time and expertise. He is missed. Hopefully, there is some great DX 
available in heaven. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
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Maylene, AL 
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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:26 PM, coffee_canuck  wrote:
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> Thank you for that - gone too soon.
> 
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
>> 
>> Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
>> the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
>> 73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[Walter Salmaniw]

Wonderful obituary, Colin.  Thanks for saving it!  Walt

On Monday, February 8, 2016, R. Colin Newell  wrote:

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Re: [IRCA] [dxld] Re: 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Les Rayburn]

WLAC 1510 was suggested as a potential culprit but that doesn’t jive with 
bearings. Also, WLAC likely still has a full-time engineering staff, and state 
of the art monitoring of their on-air signal. I have serious doubts that any 
such problem could exist for months undetected by their staff. 

1490 is a possibility, I suppose but the interference is present on both the 
upper and lower sidebands, so I suspect our culprit is on 1500 KHz. 

If everyone will take time to make a bearing check tonight around SSS, I think 
we can get to the bottom of this pretty quickly. We just need more data. 




73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA. 

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> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Greg Hardison  wrote:
> 
> Could this possibly be some spurious side-product of faulty processing 
> originating from someone on 1490?  Could such a spur radiate only on the high 
> side (i.e. 1500), without affecting 1480?  Or has anyone checked for this on 
> 1480?  And just for giggles, the same question applies to the low side of 
> 1510, although it seems WLAC would dominate, wherever this is being heard. -- 
> GREG HARDISON
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> From: d...@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:13:30 +
> Subject: [dxld] Re: 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"
> 
> I agree there could be a considerable margin of error when taking bearings, 
> and the need for more and more readings from a wide variety of locations.
> 
> I would add the need for daytime observations at groundwave range.
> 
> You mean 90 degrees here, not 180! ---
> 
> ``Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to the station 
> which will be 180 degrees from the deepest null point. So if the deepest 
> nulls runs due North and South from your location, the desired station will 
> be on a due East/West line.``
> 
> 73, Glenn Hauser
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2/8/16, Les Rayburn  > wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that the best way
> to obtain a bearing to a station is the procedure that Fred
> outlined below. 
> 
> Using a bi-directional loop, rotate the portable radio or
> loop antenna until you achieve the deepest null on the
> desired station (or mystery signal in our case). Make a note
> of this bearing. 
> 
> Then do some quick calculations to determine the bearings to
> the station which will be 180 degrees from the deepest null
> point. So if the deepest nulls runs due North and South from
> your location, the desired station will be on a due
> East/West line. 
> 
> I fully expect some outliers with these bearings. Lots of
> things can account for this. Local noise, terrain, and
> overly broad patterns in loop antennas. But if we get enough
> people to report their bearings, we’ll be able to quickly
> see which bearings are outliers and discard them from the
> data. 
> 
> I’m going to drive to a nearby field that is flat, open,
> and free from local noise sources to try again tonight. I
> want to be sure that local factors are not affecting my own
> bearing reports. Fortunately, there is a nearby sod farm
> that is perfect for that. 
> 
> What we need are more people to report on this. If you’re
> located in the Eastern US or Canada, or the Midwest, your
> reports are needed. Please take a few moments tonight to go
> outside with a portable radio and try to obtain a bearing.
> We could especially use DX’ers in Florida or the Gulf
> Coast. 
> 
> Tim has been kind enough to post a YouTube video to
> give  you an idea of what this mysterious signal sounds
> like: 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4opnMHq88&spfreload=1 
> 
> 
> We generally believe that it’s being caused by a
> transmitter malfunction, or problem in the audio chain at
> the station resulting in the signal being over-modulated. 
> 
> Your help in solving the mystery is greatly appreciated.
> Darn those meddling kids! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 
> EM63nf
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[IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[R. Colin Newell]

http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/79-john-bryant-remembered


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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Patrick Martin]

Walt,

It has already been 6 years? Where does the time go. John was a real friend. I 
remember all of the great times Dave, John, & I had visiting up at Grayland and 
the times he stopped by the house here. On my recent trip to Tillamook, I 
always  drive by The Pirate's Cove near Garabaldi and John had eaten there and 
asked me about the food. Dave Williams is now gone too, for 14 months. One 
thing that is always hard to deal with so many friends that are now gone. 
Thanks for the reminder Walt.

Patrick

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> From: can...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:49:19 +
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> Subject: [IRCA] A sad anniversary
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> Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
> the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
>  73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[Patrick Martin]

Thanks Colin.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
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> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 11:32:28 -0800
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> Subject: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.
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> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/79-john-bryant-remembered
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Fred Schroyer]

Veteran DXers on this list know all about direction-finding with a portable
radio's built-in ferrite loopstick antenna. But it occurs to me that some
readers might not be familiar with it. So, for the benefit of those
unfamiliar with the technique, here is a good, short article explaining how
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http://radio-timetraveller.blogspot.com/2011/01/unassuming-antenna-ferrite-loopstick.html

The nulling technique off the ends of the antenna works especially well on
weak signals like our 1500 mystery (at least the signal is weak in my
area). And it's easy to align a compass with the length of a skinny
portable to get the bearing.

Maybe this will encourage everyone on the list, including those who
normally don't post, to give it a try and give us a report! Even "eyeball"
estimates of the null direction will help. Using the compass in your phone
adds precision.

73s,

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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Walter Salmaniw]

Yes, it is so sad to see those friends leaving us.  We do share a hobby for
mostly older gents, though!

On Monday, February 8, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Walt,
>
> It has already been 6 years? Where does the time go. John was a real
> friend. I remember all of the great times Dave, John, & I had visiting up
> at Grayland and the times he stopped by the house here. On my recent trip
> to Tillamook, I always  drive by The Pirate's Cove near Garabaldi and John
> had eaten there and asked me about the food. Dave Williams is now gone too,
> for 14 months. One thing that is always hard to deal with so many friends
> that are now gone.
> Thanks for the reminder Walt.
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
> > From: can...@gmail.com 
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:49:19 +
> > To: dxplo...@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [IRCA] A sad anniversary
> >
> > Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will
> mark
> > the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
> >  73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Robert LaFore]

Hi there. I am in Acworth GA, just north of Atlanta. I have heard this
noise for months and assumed it was local to me. As for WDPC, they are
pretty good about going to CH and signing off. I do not believe it is them.
That being said; the noise sounds like some lower stages of a transmitter
that may be radiating. In other words the transmitter's High voltage is
OFF, but some of the lower stages (oscillator, driver etc) are still
powered up, and there is enough leakage for it to get to the antenna.

I will try to DF this from here tonight and see If I can get a bearing. It
starts making its appearance around 5:30pm here.


Robert LaFore
Acworth GA

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Fred Schroyer  wrote:

> Veteran DXers on this list know all about direction-finding with a portable
> radio's built-in ferrite loopstick antenna. But it occurs to me that some
> readers might not be familiar with it. So, for the benefit of those
> unfamiliar with the technique, here is a good, short article explaining how
> it works:
>
> http://radio-timetraveller.blogspot.com/2011/01/unassuming-antenna-ferrite-loopstick.html
>
> The nulling technique off the ends of the antenna works especially well on
> weak signals like our 1500 mystery (at least the signal is weak in my
> area). And it's easy to align a compass with the length of a skinny
> portable to get the bearing.
>
> Maybe this will encourage everyone on the list, including those who
> normally don't post, to give it a try and give us a report! Even "eyeball"
> estimates of the null direction will help. Using the compass in your phone
> adds precision.
>
> 73s,
>
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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Mark Durenberger Mobile]

Thank you Walt!



Mark Durenberger
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Subject: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2016 Feb 08 1805 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 07 February follow.
Solar flux 117 and estimated planetary A-index 8.
The estimated planetary K-index at 1800 UTC on 08 February was 1.
Space weather for the past 24 hours has been minor.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G1 level occurred.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

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Date 07   07   07   07   07   07   07   08   08   08   08   08   08   08
UTC  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800
SFlx 117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117
A-in 88888810   8888888
K-in 21122422544221
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Richard N. Allen]

Yes, it's a sad anniversary.  I remember visiting him about a fortnight before. 
 Thanks to John for helping me get started in ultralight radio DXing.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 8, 2016, at 12:49, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:
> 
> Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
> the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
> 73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Kraig]

February 8, 2016 1715 to 1730 ET (sunset is at 1738 ET) I checked 1500 
kHz with a portable rx.


Hearing loudest noise when rx is aligned E/W. Hearing strong WFED when 
rx is aligned N/S.


I also checked 1490 kHz and 1510 kHz. No noise. Therefore, I can 
conclude the noise I'm hearing on 1500 is not QTH or area based.


Hope this helps.

73,

Kraig, KG4LAC
Manassas, VA
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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Patrick Martin]

Walt,

You are so right. I'll be 67 in March. It doesn't seem that long ago when I 
turned 50.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 20:13:58 +
> From: can...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary
> 
> Yes, it is so sad to see those friends leaving us.  We do share a hobby for
> mostly older gents, though!
> 
> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> > Walt,
> >
> > It has already been 6 years? Where does the time go. John was a real
> > friend. I remember all of the great times Dave, John, & I had visiting up
> > at Grayland and the times he stopped by the house here. On my recent trip
> > to Tillamook, I always  drive by The Pirate's Cove near Garabaldi and John
> > had eaten there and asked me about the food. Dave Williams is now gone too,
> > for 14 months. One thing that is always hard to deal with so many friends
> > that are now gone.
> > Thanks for the reminder Walt.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: can...@gmail.com 
> > > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 18:49:19 +
> > > To: dxplo...@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: [IRCA] A sad anniversary
> > >
> > > Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will
> > mark
> > > the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
> > >  73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Robert LaFore]

A little hard to DF this tonight. To much WFED, which is unusual here.

On 2/8/2016 5:35 PM, Kraig wrote:
February 8, 2016 1715 to 1730 ET (sunset is at 1738 ET) I checked 1500 
kHz with a portable rx.


Hearing loudest noise when rx is aligned E/W. Hearing strong WFED when 
rx is aligned N/S.


I also checked 1490 kHz and 1510 kHz. No noise. Therefore, I can 
conclude the noise I'm hearing on 1500 is not QTH or area based.


Hope this helps.

73,

Kraig, KG4LAC
Manassas, VA
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[IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Marc DeLorenzo via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---

Just checked 1500 for the first time since this thread started.  At 1835 EST, 
usual WFED Loud & Clear, nothing else noted.
 

Marc DeLorenzo 
South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts
 http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?228-DeLorenzo-s-Classic-DX
 

 
 
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To: irca 
Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2016 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

A little hard to DF this tonight. To much WFED, which is unusual here.

On 2/8/2016 5:35 PM, Kraig wrote:
> February 8, 2016 1715 to 1730 ET (sunset is at 1738 ET) I checked 1500 
> kHz with a portable rx.
>
> Hearing loudest noise when rx is aligned E/W. Hearing strong WFED when 
> rx is aligned N/S.
>
> I also checked 1490 kHz and 1510 kHz. No noise. Therefore, I can 
> conclude the noise I'm hearing on 1500 is not QTH or area based.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> 73,
>
> Kraig, KG4LAC
> Manassas, VA
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[Brandon Jordan]

Wow 6 years. I never had to pleasure to meet John in person, much less
DXpedition with him. I sure enjoyed our lengthy email conversations and his
DX related articles online and in Proceedings. One of the great ones.

-- 
73,
Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
Fayette County, TN EM55gc
http://www.swldx.us

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Re: [IRCA] 1500 KHz "Mystery Station"

[Robert LaFore]

320 degrees or 140 degrees from Acworth GA, (North of Atlanta)

Maybe someone up in KY IN or IL?

On 2/8/2016 6:38 PM, Marc DeLorenzo via IRCA wrote:

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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[Walter Salmaniw]

Brandon, I thought of John listening to some old cassette tapes that I'm
now digitizing.  It was an old DXPL from 1990 describing the publication
Proceedings, available from John in Stillwater, OK.  Weren't they the glory
days of DXing!  John was really special.  Always the professor, we'd have a
mandatory Saturday afternoon "classroom" at Grayland, where we all had to
give a mini-lecture on a topic of interest.  Of course, some were superb
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myself were a little more mediocre!  John had the wonderful ability to make
a complex subject very understandable.  His script was superb and beautiful
to behold.  DX targets were either prominently displayed on cardboard, or
in the form of handouts to all those attending.  73,...Walt Salmaniw

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> Wow 6 years. I never had to pleasure to meet John in person, much less
> DXpedition with him. I sure enjoyed our lengthy email conversations and his
> DX related articles online and in Proceedings. One of the great ones.
>
> --
> 73,
> Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> Fayette County, TN EM55gc
> http://www.swldx.us
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2016 Feb 09 0010 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
#
#  Geophysical Alert Message
#
Solar-terrestrial indices for 08 February follow.
Solar flux 115 and estimated planetary A-index 17.
The estimated planetary K-index at  UTC on 09 February was 1.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

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Date 07   07   07   07   07   08   08   08   08   08   08   08   08   09
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 
SFlx 117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  117  115  115
A-in 888810   888888818   17
K-in 12242254422111
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[IRCA] 1500 Khz "Mystery Station"

[Rick Dau]

Here's what we've got to work with



Glenn in Enid OK has it strongest at a 95 degree bearing from his QTH.  That's 
pointed towards central Tennessee.  But Kraig in Manassas, VA says he gets it 
strongest when his loop is on an East-West bearing, so that's suggesting 
something in southern Indiana.  Tim in western Michigan says it's straight 
south of him and Robert just outside Atlanta has it strongest on a 320 degree 
bearing, which is headed straight at Nashville.  So if this station producing 
the mystery warble is on 1500, that logically narrows it down to somewhere 
between Indianapolis and Nashville, but nothing in IN/KY/TN on 1500 with the 
exception of WBRI and maybe WDEB is really powerful enough to be heard in the 
far-flung reaches where it's being reported.



Now I am convinced again that this IS WLAC, and that its transmitter is doing 
something to put this warble on 1500.



73,

Rick Dau

South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af

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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Khz "Mystery Station"

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

What about WPOT 1500 Trenton, TN?  It's kinda near the IN/KY/TN line.

Paul

On Monday, February 8, 2016, Rick Dau  wrote:

> Here's what we've got to work with
>
>
>
> Glenn in Enid OK has it strongest at a 95 degree bearing from his QTH.
> That's pointed towards central Tennessee.  But Kraig in Manassas, VA says
> he gets it strongest when his loop is on an East-West bearing, so that's
> suggesting something in southern Indiana.  Tim in western Michigan says
> it's straight south of him and Robert just outside Atlanta has it strongest
> on a 320 degree bearing, which is headed straight at Nashville.  So if this
> station producing the mystery warble is on 1500, that logically narrows it
> down to somewhere between Indianapolis and Nashville, but nothing in
> IN/KY/TN on 1500 with the exception of WBRI and maybe WDEB is really
> powerful enough to be heard in the far-flung reaches where it's being
> reported.
>
>
>
> Now I am convinced again that this IS WLAC, and that its transmitter is
> doing something to put this warble on 1500.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rick Dau
>
> South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[John Callarman]

I first met John Bryant in December 1956, when he was still in high school in 
Stillwater, Oklahoma, and I was preparing to go from Canyon, Texas to Germany 
after finishing Army basic training and the Army Information School. 
John learned a lot about DX'ing in those early days, took time out to get his 
college degree, then concentrated on his teaching career, following his dad's 
footsteps in architecture at Oklahoma State, and amplifying on DX research on 
both shortwave and BCB bands.
I visited with John in Stillwater... he visited me in Krum ... and his work 
with antennas plus his interest in ultra-light DX helped keep the DX'ing hobby 
alive. 
The most important legacy John left was his eagerness to share the knowledge 
he'd accumulated with other DX'ers. I detected, in my relationship with John, 
no sign of personal ego -- "I'm the greatest DX'er" -- that, fortunately, 
plagued only a handful of those of us who were active in the hobby.

John Callarman, KA9SPA, Family Genealogist, Retired Newspaper Editor, 
DX-oyente, Krum TX (AKA Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon)
 
> From: can...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:46:53 +
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.
> 
> Brandon, I thought of John listening to some old cassette tapes that I'm
> now digitizing.  It was an old DXPL from 1990 describing the publication
> Proceedings, available from John in Stillwater, OK.  Weren't they the glory
> days of DXing!  John was really special.  Always the professor, we'd have a
> mandatory Saturday afternoon "classroom" at Grayland, where we all had to
> give a mini-lecture on a topic of interest.  Of course, some were superb
> (like John's and Guy Atkins, and Nick Hall-Patch), while others such as
> myself were a little more mediocre!  John had the wonderful ability to make
> a complex subject very understandable.  His script was superb and beautiful
> to behold.  DX targets were either prominently displayed on cardboard, or
> in the form of handouts to all those attending.  73,...Walt Salmaniw
> 
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Brandon Jordan 
> wrote:
> 
> > Wow 6 years. I never had to pleasure to meet John in person, much less
> > DXpedition with him. I sure enjoyed our lengthy email conversations and his
> > DX related articles online and in Proceedings. One of the great ones.
> >
> > --
> > 73,
> > Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> > Fayette County, TN EM55gc
> > http://www.swldx.us
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Khz "Mystery Station"

[Rick Dau]

 
But WPOT is just a scant 250 watts, and that was one of the stations I was 
referring to when I typed "...nothing in IN/KY/TN on 1500...is really powerful 
enough to be heard in the far-flung reaches where it's being reported."  WBRI 
at 5 kw and WDEB at 1 kw would be much more logical candidates IF this is a 
station on 1500 that's causing the warble.  Everyone else in the 3-state area 
is 250 w.
 
73,
Rick Dau
South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
http://www.dxworld.com/bcblog.html 


From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker, Jr. 

Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 8:34 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Cc: a...@yahoogroups.com; a...@nrcdxas.org
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1500 Khz "Mystery Station"

What about WPOT 1500 Trenton, TN?  It's kinda near the IN/KY/TN line.

Paul

On Monday, February 8, 2016, Rick Dau  wrote:

> Here's what we've got to work with
>
>
>
> Glenn in Enid OK has it strongest at a 95 degree bearing from his QTH.
> That's pointed towards central Tennessee.  But Kraig in Manassas, VA says
> he gets it strongest when his loop is on an East-West bearing, so that's
> suggesting something in southern Indiana.  Tim in western Michigan says
> it's straight south of him and Robert just outside Atlanta has it strongest
> on a 320 degree bearing, which is headed straight at Nashville.  So if this
> station producing the mystery warble is on 1500, that logically narrows it
> down to somewhere between Indianapolis and Nashville, but nothing in
> IN/KY/TN on 1500 with the exception of WBRI and maybe WDEB is really
> powerful enough to be heard in the far-flung reaches where it's being
> reported.
>
>
>
> Now I am convinced again that this IS WLAC, and that its transmitter is
> doing something to put this warble on 1500.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Rick Dau
>
> South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
>
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[Walter Salmaniw]

Thanks for those memories, John.   You probably knew John the longest among
today's DX fraternity.  73,   Walt Salmaniw

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:38 AM, John Callarman 
wrote:

> I first met John Bryant in December 1956, when he was still in high school
> in Stillwater, Oklahoma, and I was preparing to go from Canyon, Texas to
> Germany after finishing Army basic training and the Army Information School.
> John learned a lot about DX'ing in those early days, took time out to get
> his college degree, then concentrated on his teaching career, following his
> dad's footsteps in architecture at Oklahoma State, and amplifying on DX
> research on both shortwave and BCB bands.
> I visited with John in Stillwater... he visited me in Krum ... and his
> work with antennas plus his interest in ultra-light DX helped keep the
> DX'ing hobby alive.
> The most important legacy John left was his eagerness to share the
> knowledge he'd accumulated with other DX'ers. I detected, in my
> relationship with John, no sign of personal ego -- "I'm the greatest DX'er"
> -- that, fortunately, plagued only a handful of those of us who were active
> in the hobby.
>
> John Callarman, KA9SPA, Family Genealogist, Retired Newspaper Editor,
> DX-oyente, Krum TX (AKA Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon)
>
> > From: can...@gmail.com
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:46:53 +
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.
> >
> > Brandon, I thought of John listening to some old cassette tapes that I'm
> > now digitizing.  It was an old DXPL from 1990 describing the publication
> > Proceedings, available from John in Stillwater, OK.  Weren't they the
> glory
> > days of DXing!  John was really special.  Always the professor, we'd
> have a
> > mandatory Saturday afternoon "classroom" at Grayland, where we all had to
> > give a mini-lecture on a topic of interest.  Of course, some were superb
> > (like John's and Guy Atkins, and Nick Hall-Patch), while others such as
> > myself were a little more mediocre!  John had the wonderful ability to
> make
> > a complex subject very understandable.  His script was superb and
> beautiful
> > to behold.  DX targets were either prominently displayed on cardboard, or
> > in the form of handouts to all those attending.  73,...Walt Salmaniw
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Brandon Jordan 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Wow 6 years. I never had to pleasure to meet John in person, much less
> > > DXpedition with him. I sure enjoyed our lengthy email conversations
> and his
> > > DX related articles online and in Proceedings. One of the great ones.
> > >
> > > --
> > > 73,
> > > Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ
> > > Fayette County, TN EM55gc
> > > http://www.swldx.us
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Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[d1028gary]

During the last couple of years of John's exceptional life his primary hobby 
focus was on developing the all-new Ultralight Radio niche of the AM-DXing 
hobby. As such, he and I developed a pretty close relationship as DXpedition 
partners, experimental cohorts and pocket radio fanatics. 
John had superb organizational skills, which we desperately needed at the time 
(we had wild enthusiasm, but no organization). John set up our Ultralight Radio 
Yahoo group (ultralightdx), Awards Program and Ultralight Classification 
System-- all of which have been primary factors in our booming growth over 8 
years. While fanatics like Rob Ross, Allen Willie and me supplied the 
enthusiasm John provided the organization-- although John himself frequently 
shared with me how Ultralight Radio provided some of his most thrilling hobby 
fun in many years. 
  
Shortly before John's unfortunate accident he shared with me how proud he was 
to have played a major part in rejuvenating the hobby interest of hundreds of 
hobbyists-- and in providing a thrilling new challenge for both domestic and 
transoceanic DXers. Although I had nowhere near John's DXing experience, like 
John I was a hard-charging transoceanic DXer who would always push my luck with 
huge external antennas on ocean beaches, boosting the performance of my humble 
pocket radios up to absurd levels. He and I really enjoyed trying to outdo each 
other in this friendly competition-- and there is no telling what John could 
have accomplished if he had continued in the hobby until the current FSL 
antenna craze. 
  
It's probably obvious that John's untimely accident hit me pretty hard, but his 
stellar accomplishments live on in many aspects of our hobby, especially in the 
Ultralight Radio niche group. His leadership, insight and organizational skills 
will never be forgotten! 
  
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 
Ultralight Radio Group Co-Founder 
  
  
  

- Original Message -

From: "Walter Salmaniw"  
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
 
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 6:49:09 PM 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered. 

Thanks for those memories, John.   You probably knew John the longest among 
today's DX fraternity.  73,   Walt Salmaniw 

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:38 AM, John Callarman  
wrote: 

> I first met John Bryant in December 1956, when he was still in high school 
> in Stillwater, Oklahoma, and I was preparing to go from Canyon, Texas to 
> Germany after finishing Army basic training and the Army Information School. 
> John learned a lot about DX'ing in those early days, took time out to get 
> his college degree, then concentrated on his teaching career, following his 
> dad's footsteps in architecture at Oklahoma State, and amplifying on DX 
> research on both shortwave and BCB bands. 
> I visited with John in Stillwater... he visited me in Krum ... and his 
> work with antennas plus his interest in ultra-light DX helped keep the 
> DX'ing hobby alive. 
> The most important legacy John left was his eagerness to share the 
> knowledge he'd accumulated with other DX'ers. I detected, in my 
> relationship with John, no sign of personal ego -- "I'm the greatest DX'er" 
> -- that, fortunately, plagued only a handful of those of us who were active 
> in the hobby. 
> 
> John Callarman, KA9SPA, Family Genealogist, Retired Newspaper Editor, 
> DX-oyente, Krum TX (AKA Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon) 
> 
> > From: can...@gmail.com 
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:46:53 + 
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com 
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered. 
> > 
> > Brandon, I thought of John listening to some old cassette tapes that I'm 
> > now digitizing.  It was an old DXPL from 1990 describing the publication 
> > Proceedings, available from John in Stillwater, OK.  Weren't they the 
> glory 
> > days of DXing!  John was really special.  Always the professor, we'd 
> have a 
> > mandatory Saturday afternoon "classroom" at Grayland, where we all had to 
> > give a mini-lecture on a topic of interest.  Of course, some were superb 
> > (like John's and Guy Atkins, and Nick Hall-Patch), while others such as 
> > myself were a little more mediocre!  John had the wonderful ability to 
> make 
> > a complex subject very understandable.  His script was superb and 
> beautiful 
> > to behold.  DX targets were either prominently displayed on cardboard, or 
> > in the form of handouts to all those attending.  73,...Walt Salmaniw 
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Brandon Jordan  
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > > Wow 6 years. I never had to pleasure to meet John in person, much less 
> > > DXpedition with him. I sure enjoyed our lengthy email conversations 
> and his 
> > > DX related articles online and in Proceedings. One of the great ones. 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 73, 
> > > Brandon Jordan, KM4PBQ 
> > > Fayette County, TN EM55gc 
> > > http://www.swldx.us 
> > > 
> > > WinRadio G33DDC G313-e | RFSpace SDR-IQ NetSDR | Elad FDM-S2 | Ic

Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.

[John Callarman]

You, too, have been an inspirational hobby leader for sharing your research in 
a way that enables hobbyists to duplicate the equipment you've produced. The 
key word, in my book: Share.

John Callarman, KA9SPA, Family Genealogist, Retired Newspaper Editor, 
DX-oyente, Krum TX (AKA Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon)
 
> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 03:44:20 +
> From: d1028g...@comcast.net
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] John Bryant remembered.
> 
> During the last couple of years of John's exceptional life his primary hobby 
> focus was on developing the all-new Ultralight Radio niche of the AM-DXing 
> hobby. As such, he and I developed a pretty close relationship as DXpedition 
> partners, experimental cohorts and pocket radio fanatics. 
> John had superb organizational skills, which we desperately needed at the 
> time (we had wild enthusiasm, but no organization). John set up our 
> Ultralight Radio Yahoo group (ultralightdx), Awards Program and Ultralight 
> Classification System-- all of which have been primary factors in our booming 
> growth over 8 years. While fanatics like Rob Ross, Allen Willie and me 
> supplied the enthusiasm John provided the organization-- although John 
> himself frequently shared with me how Ultralight Radio provided some of his 
> most thrilling hobby fun in many years. 
>   
> Shortly before John's unfortunate accident he shared with me how proud he was 
> to have played a major part in rejuvenating the hobby interest of hundreds of 
> hobbyists-- and in providing a thrilling new challenge for both domestic and 
> transoceanic DXers. Although I had nowhere near John's DXing experience, like 
> John I was a hard-charging transoceanic DXer who would always push my luck 
> with huge external antennas on ocean beaches, boosting the performance of my 
> humble pocket radios up to absurd levels. He and I really enjoyed trying to 
> outdo each other in this friendly competition-- and there is no telling what 
> John could have accomplished if he had continued in the hobby until the 
> current FSL antenna craze. 
>   
> It's probably obvious that John's untimely accident hit me pretty hard, but 
> his stellar accomplishments live on in many aspects of our hobby, especially 
> in the Ultralight Radio niche group. His leadership, insight and 
> organizational skills will never be forgotten! 
>   
> Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 
> Ultralight Radio Group Co-Founder 
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[amdxer]

My null on that 1500khz mystery station with the noise is
approx. 170 degrees from Joliet, IL, slightly east of
south.

Tom Jasinski
Joliet,  IL








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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Could this all be some artifact or after affect of WLAC 1510 running HD?

Paul

On Monday, February 8, 2016,  wrote:

> My null on that 1500khz mystery station with the noise is
> approx. 170 degrees from Joliet, IL, slightly east of
> south.
>
> Tom Jasinski
> Joliet,  IL
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
I`ve not noticed any IBOC from WLAC for years. 
http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html
says it went off in 2009.

I`m sure Tom means the peak at 170 degrees, not the null.

73, Glenn Hauser


On Tue, 2/9/16, Paul B. Walker, Jr.  wrote:

 Could this all be some
 artifact or after affect of WLAC 1510 running HD?
 Paul 
 
 On Monday,
 February 8, 2016,  
 wrote:
 My null on that 1500khz mystery
 station with the noise is
 
 approx. 170 degrees from Joliet, IL, slightly east of
 
 south.
 
 
 
 Tom Jasinski
 
 Joliet,  IL
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Re: [IRCA] A sad anniversary

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Thank you for mentioning this Walt.   Truly a man who left a mark in 
both the professional and the hobby worldand in a lot of personal 
worlds as well.


best wishes,

Nick



At 18:49 08-02-16, you wrote:

Just a reminder to spend a moment in thought or prayer.  Tomorrow will mark
the anniversary of my good friend's passing, John Bryant, six years ago.
 73, my friend!   Walt Salmaniw, Victoria, BC
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Powell E. Way III via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
I don't think WLAC is running HD. Otherwise it would also obliterate 1520. 
Powell 

  From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
 To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
 
Cc: "a...@nrcdxas.org" 
 Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 11:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station
   
Could this all be some artifact or after affect of WLAC 1510 running HD?

Paul

On Monday, February 8, 2016,  wrote:

> My null on that 1500khz mystery station with the noise is
> approx. 170 degrees from Joliet, IL, slightly east of
> south.
>
> Tom Jasinski
> Joliet,  IL
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Tim Tromp]

This noise appears in both the upper sideband and lower sideband of 1500,
meaning it's not likely this is being generated from a station above or
below 1500.  From careful frequency measurements tonight under the Perseus
microscope, the mystery station's offset appears to be 1500.007 kHz - maybe
useful to those with calibrated SDRs who are chasing it down.

73,
Tim


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> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 04:38:47 + (UTC)
> Subject: Re: 1500 Mystery Station
> I`ve not noticed any IBOC from WLAC for years.
> http://topazdesigns.com/iboc/station-list.html
> says it went off in 2009.
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> I`m sure Tom means the peak at 170 degrees, not the null.
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> 73, Glenn Hauser
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> 
> On Tue, 2/9/16, Paul B. Walker, Jr.  wrote:
>
>  Could this all be some
>  artifact or after affect of WLAC 1510 running HD?
>  Paul
>
>  On Monday,
>  February 8, 2016,  
>  wrote:
>  My null on that 1500khz mystery
>  station with the noise is
>
>  approx. 170 degrees from Joliet, IL, slightly east of
>
>  south.
>
>
>
>  Tom Jasinski
>
>  Joliet,  IL
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Chuck Hutton]

And the noise is absolutely not an IBOC type of noise. That possibility is a 
non-starter.

Chuck


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To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America;  Jr.Paul B. Walker
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Well, it was jut a suggestion.  Considering my current location and the
noise I have to deal with, I'd be of no use trying to listen to 1500, so
so

On Monday, February 8, 2016, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> And the noise is absolutely not an IBOC type of noise. That possibility is
> a non-starter.
>
> Chuck
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[IRCA] TP 8 Feb Victoria version

[Nick Hall-Patch]

As Walt mentioned, not much sunrise action today, but there was signs 
of life earlier.




pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, 
at least briefly):


not today



Reasonable audio  at  times during the period (much of it 
understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise):


738 Tahiti, homme et dame en francais, maybe another station weaker 
with woman talking slowly 1408UT

774 JOUB English lessons 1521UT
828 JOBB English lessons 1320-1UT
1566 HLAZ Japanese s/off "oyasumi nasai" (good night) by woman, then 
FEBC ID, "H-L-A-zeto desu", "nihongo hoso" mention



not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or 
noise could be understood by a native speaker:


594 JOAK man in Japanese 1343UT
1053 Korean jammer 1327UT
1566 HLAZ woman in Chinese 1511UT




Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be 
guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in 
talk or music)


747 JOIB English lessons 1420UT //774
891 JOHK woman talking //594 1318UT



Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated or 
ravaged by splatter)


864 972 1107 1323 1503 1575



best wishes,

Nick

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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Walter Salmaniw]

Not to worry, Paul.   I can't hear anything out of the ordinary in
Victoria, either.  Walt

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:20 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, it was jut a suggestion.  Considering my current location and the
> noise I have to deal with, I'd be of no use trying to listen to 1500, so
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Re: [IRCA] 1500 Mystery Station

[Aaron Kreider]

So my rotors stopped working (I need to look into this) and I cannot DF it.

But I can phase. And when I phase out WFED it drops the noise as well 
(this is only evidence, not a strong proof as the phaser can affect 
multiple stations at the same time).  Also when the noise is very strong 
it seems like WFED is the only thing capable of producing it (based on 
the carrier to sideband ratio - no other carriers are strong enough on 
1500 khz).


And finally, when the noise was on both sidebands several days ago - I 
measured it centered on 1499.990 (plus or minus 1 hz). Which was/is 
WFED's frequency.   Recently it has only been on the USB so I haven't 
been able to reproduce this.


Aaron
QS1R, two Wellbrooks (one with a broken amp), and a Quantum Radio Phaser
Philadelphia, PA

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