Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Patrick Martin]

JOWF can easily block the channel here on a decent JJ morning.


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw 

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:17 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

I'm pleased to hear about 1440.  Unfortunately from Masset, JOWF is super
powerful (like a local), so I think that Korea would be very difficult,
especially since Japan and Korea are so close to one another.  One can
always hope and try.  Perhaps through dead air, something could be heard.
 73,...Walt

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Walt,
>
>
> Thanks for the info. I have never seen a log of any Korean AFN station
> outside of Korea.  Glad to hear an update on 1440 being stronger, maybe a
> possibility here, but too bad the 1440 on is co/channel with JOWF. I have
> tried for the AFN Korean stations for decades without any luck.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw <
> can...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:23 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> I can confirm that I attempted to hear AFN Korean frequencies when I was in
> Kyoto about 15 years ago.  Despite very quiet electrical conditions, I
> might have just barely heard a single frequency in the middle of the night,
> but only tentatively.  I recall being very surprised by this lack of
> reception.  73, Walt
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>
> > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA > on behalf of
> > Paul B. Walker, Jr. >
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> > So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over
> an
> > official government document?
> >
> > Neither is totally accurate
> >
> > I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff
> like
> > this, I'll go with the official document
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton  > > wrote:
> >
> > > The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire
> corner
> > > orf the world, so why use individual lists?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: IRCA > on behalf of
> > Paul B. Walker,
> > > Jr. >
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM
> > >
> > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw  > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
> > with
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher
> values
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's
> remote
> > rx
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
> > > 647
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
> > > still
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
> > > Okinawa
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible
> in
> > > the
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > US
> > >
> > 

Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Patrick Martin]

Paul,


My friends are computer tech's and work on bases.  One is a DXer.The towers are 
quite short in most cases and do not get out well. Some of the insulation's 
seem more "portable".


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker, Jr. 

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:52 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

I would bet they run the 5kw, but have log suspected the towers are
inefficient.  That right there would account for pot signal.

Paul


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:15 PM Patrick Martin  wrote:

> DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
> Jr. 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
>
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
>
>
> So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over an
>
> official government document?
>
>
>
> Neither is totally accurate
>
>
>
> I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff like
>
> this, I'll go with the official document
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
>
> > orf the world, so why use individual lists?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Chuck
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> >
>
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
>
> > Jr. 
>
> >
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM
>
> >
>
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw 
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
> with
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher values
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's remote
> rx
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
>
> > 647
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
>
> > still
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
>
> > Okinawa
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible in
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > US
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > 20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Some of the lower powered ones may be off the air, Chris KAdlec has
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > mentioned he hasn't heard Red Cloud in years.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Just thought this might help
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Paul
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > ___
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
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[IRCA] New Log from Albany, NY--1480 WDJO Cincinnati

[David Hochfelder]

I haven't been at the dials much this season due to work. I got the chance
late last night and was quickly rewarded with a new log!

1480 WDJO Cincinnati OH 0055ET Very good at peaks. Oldies and call ID five
minute before TOH.

Dave
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Re: [IRCA] QSL received

[James Renfrew]

Sent several follow-ups to Azores, but nothing. Finally sent this one to
Lisbon.  Good thing I sent out a prepared card that stated "Azores",
because the RDP QSL and cover letter, also enclosed in the response, made
no mention of Azores.  Jim Renfrew

On Dec 29, 2016 21:44, "Patrick Martin"  wrote:

> Great QSL. Sometimes you have to really be patient to get that QSL.
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of James Renfrew <
> jim.renf...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 3:15 PM
> To: a...@nrcdxas.org; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
> America; Bruce Conti
> Subject: [IRCA] QSL received
>
> Jim Renfrew, Clarendon NY
>
> I sent out about 100 QSL follow-ups at the end of November, most of them
> FM, but a few MW. I've received about 30 FM responses since then.  Today,
> on my return home from Christmas break I was pleased to find a QSL from 693
> RDP Terceira, Azores, in my mailbox.  My original report went out April 5,
> 2006, so this one took more than ten years to land.  This is Country #61
> verified out of 73 heard.  I sent an IRC, but it was returned unused.
>
> Paula Carvalho
> Engenharia, Sistemas Tecnologia
> RADIO E TELEVISAO DE PORTUGAL, SA
> Av. Marechal Gomes da Costa, no 37
> 1849-030 Lisboa
> PORTUGAL:
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Re: [IRCA] QSL received

[Patrick Martin]

Great QSL. Sometimes you have to really be patient to get that QSL.


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of James Renfrew 

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 3:15 PM
To: a...@nrcdxas.org; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; 
Bruce Conti
Subject: [IRCA] QSL received

Jim Renfrew, Clarendon NY

I sent out about 100 QSL follow-ups at the end of November, most of them
FM, but a few MW. I've received about 30 FM responses since then.  Today,
on my return home from Christmas break I was pleased to find a QSL from 693
RDP Terceira, Azores, in my mailbox.  My original report went out April 5,
2006, so this one took more than ten years to land.  This is Country #61
verified out of 73 heard.  I sent an IRC, but it was returned unused.

Paula Carvalho
Engenharia, Sistemas Tecnologia
RADIO E TELEVISAO DE PORTUGAL, SA
Av. Marechal Gomes da Costa, no 37
1849-030 Lisboa
PORTUGAL:
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Patrick Martin]

Paul,


If you could get a decent signal under JOWF, you might ID it. One thing in AK 
you have no close stations on 1440. JOWF is at Supporo, so fairly close with 50 
KW. The JJs when I was there, blocked a lot of channels in the mornings.


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker, Jr. 

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 11:04 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

AFN's Eagle stations are easy to identify. Coming out of a public service
announcement break (they dont run commercials!) They will have a liner by a
rock n roll sounding guy that says "AFN The Eagle, Serving America's Best".
They play current hit/pop music and there's a liner between every 3 songs
usually, sometimes too, mentioning AFN or The Eagle. No specific station
name, frequency or slogan is mentioned in the liners when the station is
running automated programming with no live dj.

Paul

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Chris,
>
>
> Thanks for the update on 1440. Maybe a possibility here, but too bad it is
> co channel with JOWF. As I mentioned, I have tried for any AFN Korean
> station for decades without any luck. It is also possible than one could
> have been in the jumble, without knowing it with good openings to the FE. I
> have heard a jumble on many splits through the years with several Chinese
> stations on a single frequency, so anything is possible. But nothing to ID
> anything that even sounded like an AFN station.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Chris Kadlec <
> beagleb...@beaglebass.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> Patrick,
>
> I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another story. I
> wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They upgraded
> their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080
> frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw Haeju
> just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on
> 1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw
> stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having gone
> to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm these
> days for non-government (KBS) stations.
>
> 1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA turns
> off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have clear
> signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals and
> Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly in
> Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.
>
> And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw on
> the
> USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that tower
> which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the
> Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w or
> so,
> and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info you
> can
> get!!
>
> -Chris Kadlec
>  Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
> > From: Patrick Martin 
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
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[IRCA] WBEL 1380

[Rick Dau]

1380  WBEL  IL South Beloit - 12/29 1838 ELT - Fair with ad for Havill-Spoerl 
Ford-Lincoln in Fort Atkinson, then weather  forecast with "WBEL" ID (which, at 
first, sounded like "WGEN" or "WGEF", which threw me off) at the end, and into 
60s and 70s oldies from Sly & the Family Stone, The Guess Who, and Leo Sayer.  
First time heard since format switch and  simultaneous change back to its old 
CLs.  (RD-NE)

RD-NE Rick Dau South Omaha  Sony ICF-2010, Grundig AN-200 antenna
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

AFN on 1440 MIGHT be possible for me.. I do often hear JOWF and very well
at that.. but I also regularly get them in the mix with CKJR from
Wetaskawin, Alberta or just CKJR.. but there's plenty of times when nothing
is strong on 1440 or I have nothing at all

Paul

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Mauno Ritola 
wrote:

> At least 1440 and 1530 kHz have been logged this and last season in
> Finland.
>
> Mauno
>
>
>
> 29.12.2016, 20:56, Patrick Martin kirjoitti:
>
>> Walt,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info. I have never seen a log of any Korean AFN station
>> outside of Korea.  Glad to hear an update on 1440 being stronger, maybe a
>> possibility here, but too bad the 1440 on is co/channel with JOWF. I have
>> tried for the AFN Korean stations for decades without any luck.
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw <
>> can...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:23 PM
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>>
>> I can confirm that I attempted to hear AFN Korean frequencies when I was
>> in
>> Kyoto about 15 years ago.  Despite very quiet electrical conditions, I
>> might have just barely heard a single frequency in the middle of the
>> night,
>> but only tentatively.  I recall being very surprised by this lack of
>> reception.  73, Walt
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>>
>> DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
>>> running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
>>> good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
>>> coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
>>> said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
>>> ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
>>> 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
>>> outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: IRCA > on behalf of
>>> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>>>
>>> So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over
>>> an
>>> official government document?
>>>
>>> Neither is totally accurate
>>>
>>> I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff
>>> like
>>> this, I'll go with the official document
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
 orf the world, so why use individual lists?





 Chuck





 

 From: IRCA > on behalf of

>>> Paul B. Walker,
>>>
 Jr. >

 Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM

 To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America

 Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies



 Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!



 If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP





 On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw >>>
>>> > wrote:
>>>


 Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
> transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
>
 with
>>>
 what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher values
> from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
> unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's remote
>
 rx
>>>
 in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
>
 647

 is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
>>
> still

 about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
>>
> Okinawa

 on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible in
>>
> the

 US
>> I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
>> http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
>> 20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
>> Some of the lower powered ones may be off the air, Chris KAdlec has
>> mentioned he hasn't heard Red Cloud in years.
>> Just thought this might help
>> Paul
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Mauno Ritola]

At least 1440 and 1530 kHz have been logged this and last season in Finland.

Mauno


29.12.2016, 20:56, Patrick Martin kirjoitti:

Walt,


Thanks for the info. I have never seen a log of any Korean AFN station outside 
of Korea.  Glad to hear an update on 1440 being stronger, maybe a possibility 
here, but too bad the 1440 on is co/channel with JOWF. I have tried for the AFN 
Korean stations for decades without any luck.


Patrick


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw 

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:23 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

I can confirm that I attempted to hear AFN Korean frequencies when I was in
Kyoto about 15 years ago.  Despite very quiet electrical conditions, I
might have just barely heard a single frequency in the middle of the night,
but only tentatively.  I recall being very surprised by this lack of
reception.  73, Walt

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:


DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).


Patrick


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA > on behalf of
Paul B. Walker, Jr. >
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over an
official government document?

Neither is totally accurate

I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff like
this, I'll go with the official document

Paul


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton > wrote:


The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
orf the world, so why use individual lists?





Chuck







From: IRCA > on behalf of

Paul B. Walker,

Jr. >

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM

To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America

Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies



Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!



If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP





On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw 
> wrote:




Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line

with

what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher values
from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's remote

rx

in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.

647


is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:

Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are

still


about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN

Okinawa


on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible in

the


US
I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
Some of the lower powered ones may be off the air, Chris KAdlec has
mentioned he hasn't heard Red Cloud in years.
Just thought this might help
Paul
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[IRCA] QSL received

[James Renfrew]

Jim Renfrew, Clarendon NY

I sent out about 100 QSL follow-ups at the end of November, most of them
FM, but a few MW. I've received about 30 FM responses since then.  Today,
on my return home from Christmas break I was pleased to find a QSL from 693
RDP Terceira, Azores, in my mailbox.  My original report went out April 5,
2006, so this one took more than ten years to land.  This is Country #61
verified out of 73 heard.  I sent an IRC, but it was returned unused.

Paula Carvalho
Engenharia, Sistemas Tecnologia
RADIO E TELEVISAO DE PORTUGAL, SA
Av. Marechal Gomes da Costa, no 37
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[IRCA] Mostly Mexican MW DX to Enid OK, December 23-29, 2016

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
These logs are excerpts from my daily all-band reports, mainly SWBC, also 
VHF/UHF, sometimes utility, ham, which may be found in several archives without 
much delay, such as
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/index.php?topic=Hauser

And compiled weekly along with extensive news from many other individuals and 
publications in DX LISTENING DIGEST:
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxldmid.html

All my MW DX reports starting August 2011 are archived in this forum with open 
access:
http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?6543-MW-DX-from-Enid-OK-by-Glenn-Hauser/page54
[over 187,000 views as of Dec 29, 2016]

All times and dates strictly UT. Rx: mostly DX-398 with internal antenna only 
or PL-880; NRD-545 with ALA-330S inside E-W or inside randomwire N-S; Nissan 
stock caradio as specified; ICR-75  E-W longwire

** CUBA [and non]. 530, Dec 27 at 0320, surprised to hear Spanish talk about 
béisbol, R. Rebelde // 1180 and a bit of an echo against // 5025. Atop music 
from presumed R. Enciclopedia, which is normally dominant, listed 10 kW from 
nearest Villa María, Ciudad de la Habana. WRTH 2017 shows two Rebeldes on 530: 
unknown power in Caribe, Isla de Juventud, and 1 kW in far Guantánamo. 

Rebelde is also atop my local Vance AFB TIS with fake call K530AM, announced at 
irregular intervals, among still running continuous PSA loops, including what 
to do when a hurricane is approaching. Oklahoma?

At same time on E-W antenna, 590 is dominated by music, presumably 25 kW Radio 
Musical Nacional, La Julia, Mayabeque (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST) 

** CUBA. 530, Dec 28 at 0153, soft piano version of ``Yesterday``, so R. 
Enciclopedia regains dominance, no sign of R. Rebelde on 530 as heard 22.5 
hours ago. Original format was presenting bits of spoken knowledge as the name 
implies, but strangely kept the name with flip to EZL music. Do they have any 
informational shows or segments when we don`t hear them? (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX 
LISTENING DIGEST) 

** MEXICO. 730, Dec 24 at 0151, three canned ``[E]stereo Fiesta, 107.1 FM, 
700-30 AM`` IDs by super-hype voice actor within two minutes, as XEHB Hidalgo 
del Parral, Chihuahua is now known, outdating WRTH 2017 already on this which 
still shows ``Ke Buena``; and IRCA Mexican Log 2015 with that plus ``Viva 
Villa``. Axually, this is hardly news, first reported in August *2015*, NRC 
IDXD by John Wilkins, CO:

``730 MEXICO XEHB Hidalgo del Parral, Chih. AUG 6 1150 - Orchestral anthem 
followed by FM-only ID at 1151: "Escucha Estereo Fiesta XEHB-FM Estereo 
Fiesta..."; also gave address on Ortiz Mena Boulevard and mentioned Grupo 
Radiorama; back to music after the ID. Good signal and alone on the frequency, 
probably already on 25 kW day power. New slogan, ex-R. Viva Villa, ex-La Ke 
Buena. [Wilkins-CO]``

XEHB is totally and typically dominating frequency on caradio, forget XEX or 
any other NAFTA country, and obviously on 50 kW day power instead of 1 kW night 
as listed (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** MEXICO. 770, Dec 24 at 0257 explaining what a Villancico is, 0259 ID as 
``Radio Fórmula de Monterrey``, i.e. XEACH, 25/1 kW. Dominant on my N/S 
antenna, while KKOB is on the E/W, see USA (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING 
DIGEST)

UNIDENTIFIED. Trans-Pacific JBA MW carrier search December 23, UT:
At 1323, 702-WSW, 657-WSW, 612-WSW
At 1326, 792-WSW
At 1328, 1566-NW until cut at 1344:35*, usual time for HLAZ language/beam 
switch from Japan to China (Glenn Hauser, Enid OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)
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[IRCA] Domestic MWDX to Enid OK, December 23-29, 2016

[Glenn Hauser via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---
All times and dates strictly UT [5 hours ahead of `ELT` during EST; when 
changing times one must also change the dates for events in the 00-05 UT period 
to the previous date by ELT].

Rx: mostly DX-398 with internal antenna only or PL-880; NRD-545 with ALA-330S 
inside E-W or inside randomwire N-S; Nissan stock caradio as specified; IC-R75 
with E-W longwire

These logs are excerpts from my daily all-band reports, mainly SWBC, also 
VHF/UHF, sometimes, utility, ham, which may be found in several archives 
without much delay, such as
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/index.php?topic=Hauser

And compiled weekly along with extensive news from many other individuals and 
publications in DX LISTENING DIGEST:
http://www.worldofradio.com/dxldmid.html

All my MW DX reports starting August 2011 are archived in this forum with open 
access: 
http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?6543-MW-DX-from-Enid-OK-by-Glenn-Hauser/page54
[over 187,000 views as of Dec 29, 2016]

These logs are in four sections, Canada [if any], Oklahoma [if any], rest of 
USA, unidentified [if any], separated by === Within each, they are in 
frequency order 

** OKLAHOMA. 960, Dec 24 circa 0145 UT, I`m a few blox from the KGWA 
transmitter site in NW Enid, looking for Xmas lighting displays, so also try to 
hear the plus/minus 80 kHz spurs on exactly 880 and 1040, which I have detected 
further at home in daytime --- no trace, vs KRVN and WHO. Will have to try for 
these and maybe more in full daytime near site (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING 
DIGEST)

** OKLAHOMA. 1300/1330/1360 and 1420/1450/1480, Dec 23 circa 1945 UT after 
dining at Pizza Inn across the street from 1390 KCRC transmitter and studio 
site in Enid, once the caradio is away from a noisy spot, I go after the 
perpetual spur field of KCRC. The closest pair, 1360 & 1420, are plenty loud as 
junior 1390s, here overriding KTJS OK and KPHN KS, which further away in Enid, 
can be detected as hets against the not-exactly plus/minus 30 kHz spurs from 
1390. I`ve also heard much weaker hets on 1330 vs KNSS KS and 1450 KGFF/KSIW 
OK, and up close they are of course much stronger. Now the supreme catches: 
plus/minus 90 kHz JBA spurs causing hets on 1300 KAKC OK and 1480 KQAM KS/KBXD 
TX. But not enough another 30 kHz out to hear anyhets on 1270, 1520. Way to go, 
Hiram, seven frequencies for the price of one (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING 
DIGEST)

===

** U S A. 770, Dec 24 at 0259 UT, after getting XEACH on the N/S antenna (see 
MEXICO), on the E/W antenna a full ID as ``Happy holidays from 94.5 FM and AM 
770 News Radio, KKOB Albuquerque``, bong and CBS News still exists. Seems to be 
a slight reverb, implying I am getting not only the main 50 kW transmitter in 
the North Valley, supposedly protecting WABC, but also the 230-watt night-only 
fill-in from Santa Fe. Someone recently claimed a log of Santa Fe based on 
double audio, but I wonder just how much out of synch they were and are? 

Also, the 2016-2017 NRC AM Log does not show any FM simul for KKOB. Is 94.5 
new? Nor does the WTFDA FM Database, with only two 94.5`s in NM:

``KYAT 94.5 GALLUP USA 100.0 100.0 420.0  35-36-22 108-41-26 KYAT FM COUNTRY 
NAVAJO FM STATION COUNTRY  

K233CG // KQRI 105.5 94.5 SANDIA NM USA 0.0  0.25 1240.0 35-13-00 106-27-07 AIR 
ONE CHRISTIAN ROCK`` 

But 94.5 is now on the KKOB homepage, and of course getting top billing there 
as well as on the air: http://www.770kkob.com/

So NM`s #1 commercial AM station has recently had to get on FM to let a mere 
translator wag its dog. Apparently just acquired it from Air One/KQRI. It`s on 
Sandia CREST, not Sandia the town/res, which does make a big coverage 
difference even with 250 watts --- if there is no co-channel. 

Which there is. I always anticipated, while approaching ABQ from the east on 
I-40, emerging from Tijeras Canyon and picking up the 100-kW Gallup on 94.5 
which at that elevation has a line-of-sight, unlike further down in the valley. 
Maybe still can get it in spots, as even some of the bigsigs atop the Crest are 
blocked within the canyon. But not a pretty picture.

The *real* KKOB-FM was and presumably still is, on 93.3, 20 kW from the Crest, 
but separately programmed from 770/94.5 with CHR. Turnabout: in Gallup, 93.3 is 
blocked by a local gospel-huxter translator, K227CB (Glenn Hauser, OK, WORLD OF 
RADIO 1858, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 880, Dec 24 at 0256 UT, it seems that KHAC AZ is off, as I am hearing 
only KRVN and some weak Spanish music on USB. Then I realize I am on the N/S 
antenna, and switching to the E/W antenna, there`s KHAC religioning on USB side 
only (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)

** U S A. 880, Dec 27 at 0313 UT, Spanish giving an AC 713 phone (Houston TX), 
``Aleluya Bróádcasting Nétwork``. On E-W antenna, no KRVN to speak of, but 
bigsig from KHAC AZ on 880-USB, none of that on LSB, only this, which has to be 
KJOZ Conroe TX, 10/1 kW U4, which has undergone a big chan

Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Walter Salmaniw]

I'm pleased to hear about 1440.  Unfortunately from Masset, JOWF is super
powerful (like a local), so I think that Korea would be very difficult,
especially since Japan and Korea are so close to one another.  One can
always hope and try.  Perhaps through dead air, something could be heard.
 73,...Walt

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Walt,
>
>
> Thanks for the info. I have never seen a log of any Korean AFN station
> outside of Korea.  Glad to hear an update on 1440 being stronger, maybe a
> possibility here, but too bad the 1440 on is co/channel with JOWF. I have
> tried for the AFN Korean stations for decades without any luck.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw <
> can...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:23 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> I can confirm that I attempted to hear AFN Korean frequencies when I was in
> Kyoto about 15 years ago.  Despite very quiet electrical conditions, I
> might have just barely heard a single frequency in the middle of the night,
> but only tentatively.  I recall being very surprised by this lack of
> reception.  73, Walt
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>
> > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA > on behalf of
> > Paul B. Walker, Jr. >
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> > So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over
> an
> > official government document?
> >
> > Neither is totally accurate
> >
> > I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff
> like
> > this, I'll go with the official document
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton  > > wrote:
> >
> > > The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire
> corner
> > > orf the world, so why use individual lists?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: IRCA > on behalf of
> > Paul B. Walker,
> > > Jr. >
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM
> > >
> > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw  > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
> > with
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher
> values
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's
> remote
> > rx
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
> > > 647
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
> > > still
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
> > > Okinawa
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible
> in
> > > the
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > US
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > 20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
> > >
> > > >

[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Maybe I should put together a short tip list/guide with audio for AFN. I'm
not an expert but I've learned a bit and audio always helps another Dxer.

Paul


On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:19 AM Walter Salmaniw  wrote:

> Agree, Paul, that AFN has a very distinctive style.  1575 has virtually
>
> identical style to 810, the 2 frequencies I've often heard.  PSAs are very
>
> common.  In country advice.  Network feeds galour for commercial networks,
>
> which is what most often I hear (over night programming).   73,...Walt
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > AFN's Eagle stations are easy to identify. Coming out of a public service
>
> > announcement break (they dont run commercials!) They will have a liner
> by a
>
> > rock n roll sounding guy that says "AFN The Eagle, Serving America's
> Best".
>
> > They play current hit/pop music and there's a liner between every 3 songs
>
> > usually, sometimes too, mentioning AFN or The Eagle. No specific station
>
> > name, frequency or slogan is mentioned in the liners when the station is
>
> > running automated programming with no live dj.
>
> >
>
> > Paul
>
> >
>
> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Patrick Martin 
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Chris,
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks for the update on 1440. Maybe a possibility here, but too bad it
>
> > is
>
> > > co channel with JOWF. As I mentioned, I have tried for any AFN Korean
>
> > > station for decades without any luck. It is also possible than one
> could
>
> > > have been in the jumble, without knowing it with good openings to the
>
> > FE. I
>
> > > have heard a jumble on many splits through the years with several
> Chinese
>
> > > stations on a single frequency, so anything is possible. But nothing to
>
> > ID
>
> > > anything that even sounded like an AFN station.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Patrick
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > 
>
> > > From: IRCA  on behalf of Chris Kadlec <
>
> > > beagleb...@beaglebass.com>
>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:15 AM
>
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> > >
>
> > > Patrick,
>
> > >
>
> > > I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another
>
> > story. I
>
> > > wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They
>
> > upgraded
>
> > > their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080
>
> > > frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw
>
> > Haeju
>
> > > just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on
>
> > > 1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw
>
> > > stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having
>
> > gone
>
> > > to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm
> these
>
> > > days for non-government (KBS) stations.
>
> > >
>
> > > 1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA
> turns
>
> > > off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have
>
> > clear
>
> > > signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals
>
> > and
>
> > > Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly
> in
>
> > > Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.
>
> > >
>
> > > And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw
> on
>
> > > the
>
> > > USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that
>
> > tower
>
> > > which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the
>
> > > Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w
> or
>
> > > so,
>
> > > and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info
> you
>
> > > can
>
> > > get!!
>
> > >
>
> > > -Chris Kadlec
>
> > >  Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
>
> > > > From: Patrick Martin 
>
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> > > >
>
> > > > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
>
> > > > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have
> that
>
> > > > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
>
> > > > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One
>
> > Dxer
>
> > > > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan.
>
> > Their
>
> > > > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard
>
> > AFN-810,
>
> > > > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several
>
> > AFRTS
>
> > > > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Patrick
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
> > >
>
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>
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>
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Walter Salmaniw]

Agree, Paul, that AFN has a very distinctive style.  1575 has virtually
identical style to 810, the 2 frequencies I've often heard.  PSAs are very
common.  In country advice.  Network feeds galour for commercial networks,
which is what most often I hear (over night programming).   73,...Walt

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> AFN's Eagle stations are easy to identify. Coming out of a public service
> announcement break (they dont run commercials!) They will have a liner by a
> rock n roll sounding guy that says "AFN The Eagle, Serving America's Best".
> They play current hit/pop music and there's a liner between every 3 songs
> usually, sometimes too, mentioning AFN or The Eagle. No specific station
> name, frequency or slogan is mentioned in the liners when the station is
> running automated programming with no live dj.
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>
> > Chris,
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the update on 1440. Maybe a possibility here, but too bad it
> is
> > co channel with JOWF. As I mentioned, I have tried for any AFN Korean
> > station for decades without any luck. It is also possible than one could
> > have been in the jumble, without knowing it with good openings to the
> FE. I
> > have heard a jumble on many splits through the years with several Chinese
> > stations on a single frequency, so anything is possible. But nothing to
> ID
> > anything that even sounded like an AFN station.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Chris Kadlec <
> > beagleb...@beaglebass.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:15 AM
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> > Patrick,
> >
> > I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another
> story. I
> > wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They
> upgraded
> > their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080
> > frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw
> Haeju
> > just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on
> > 1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw
> > stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having
> gone
> > to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm these
> > days for non-government (KBS) stations.
> >
> > 1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA turns
> > off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have
> clear
> > signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals
> and
> > Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly in
> > Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.
> >
> > And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw on
> > the
> > USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that
> tower
> > which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the
> > Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w or
> > so,
> > and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info you
> > can
> > get!!
> >
> > -Chris Kadlec
> >  Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
> >
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
> > > From: Patrick Martin 
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> > >
> > > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> > > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> > > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> > > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One
> Dxer
> > > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan.
> Their
> > > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard
> AFN-810,
> > > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several
> AFRTS
> > > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
> >
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

AFN's Eagle stations are easy to identify. Coming out of a public service
announcement break (they dont run commercials!) They will have a liner by a
rock n roll sounding guy that says "AFN The Eagle, Serving America's Best".
They play current hit/pop music and there's a liner between every 3 songs
usually, sometimes too, mentioning AFN or The Eagle. No specific station
name, frequency or slogan is mentioned in the liners when the station is
running automated programming with no live dj.

Paul

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Chris,
>
>
> Thanks for the update on 1440. Maybe a possibility here, but too bad it is
> co channel with JOWF. As I mentioned, I have tried for any AFN Korean
> station for decades without any luck. It is also possible than one could
> have been in the jumble, without knowing it with good openings to the FE. I
> have heard a jumble on many splits through the years with several Chinese
> stations on a single frequency, so anything is possible. But nothing to ID
> anything that even sounded like an AFN station.
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Chris Kadlec <
> beagleb...@beaglebass.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:15 AM
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> Patrick,
>
> I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another story. I
> wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They upgraded
> their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080
> frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw Haeju
> just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on
> 1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw
> stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having gone
> to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm these
> days for non-government (KBS) stations.
>
> 1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA turns
> off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have clear
> signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals and
> Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly in
> Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.
>
> And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw on
> the
> USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that tower
> which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the
> Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w or
> so,
> and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info you
> can
> get!!
>
> -Chris Kadlec
>  Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
> > From: Patrick Martin 
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> > DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> > running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> > good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> > coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> > said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> > ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> > 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> > outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I would bet they run the 5kw, but have log suspected the towers are
inefficient.  That right there would account for pot signal.

Paul


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:15 PM Patrick Martin  wrote:

> DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
> Jr. 
>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
>
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
>
>
> So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over an
>
> official government document?
>
>
>
> Neither is totally accurate
>
>
>
> I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff like
>
> this, I'll go with the official document
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
>
> > orf the world, so why use individual lists?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Chuck
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> >
>
> > From: IRCA  on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
>
> > Jr. 
>
> >
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM
>
> >
>
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>
> >
>
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw 
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
> with
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher values
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's remote
> rx
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
>
> > 647
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
>
> > still
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
>
> > Okinawa
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible in
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > US
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > 20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Some of the lower powered ones may be off the air, Chris KAdlec has
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > mentioned he hasn't heard Red Cloud in years.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Just thought this might help
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > Paul
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > ___
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > IRCA mailing list
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>
> >
>
> > >
>
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Patrick Martin]

Walt,


Thanks for the info. I have never seen a log of any Korean AFN station outside 
of Korea.  Glad to hear an update on 1440 being stronger, maybe a possibility 
here, but too bad the 1440 on is co/channel with JOWF. I have tried for the AFN 
Korean stations for decades without any luck.


Patrick


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Walter Salmaniw 

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:23 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

I can confirm that I attempted to hear AFN Korean frequencies when I was in
Kyoto about 15 years ago.  Despite very quiet electrical conditions, I
might have just barely heard a single frequency in the middle of the night,
but only tentatively.  I recall being very surprised by this lack of
reception.  73, Walt

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA > on behalf of
> Paul B. Walker, Jr. >
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:40 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> So yore going to take the word of a hobbyist volunteer publication over an
> official government document?
>
> Neither is totally accurate
>
> I very much appreciate Bruce's work though, but when it comes to stuff like
> this, I'll go with the official document
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM Chuck Hutton  > wrote:
>
> > The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
> > orf the world, so why use individual lists?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: IRCA > on behalf of
> Paul B. Walker,
> > Jr. >
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:17 PM
> >
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> >
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
> >
> >
> >
> > Some not totally correct things but more accurate then wiki!
> >
> >
> >
> > If AFN misawa isn't directional there'd be no ERP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:16 PM Walter Salmaniw  > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Paul, notice the powers listed for the 3 low power Japanese AFN
> >
> > >
> >
> > > transmitters on 1575.  300w, 1000w, and 1000w, which is more in line
> with
> >
> > >
> >
> > > what is listed and accepted.  Remember you had posted far higher values
> >
> > >
> >
> > > from an "inside" tech.  I suspect he was referring to ERP?   Also,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > unfortunately, Diego Garcia on AM appears to be gone.  Victor's remote
> rx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > in Sri Lanka used to receive them. Looks like a typo for AFN Okinawa.
> > 647
> >
> > >
> >
> > > is listed, and should be 648, of course.   73,...Walt
> >
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> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> >
> > >
> >
> > > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Alot of AFN (the old AFRTS) stations have moved to FM but there are
> > still
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > about a dozen on AM.. mainly low pwoered 250-1KW signals, but AFN
> > Okinawa
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > on 648 with 10kw and AFN Tokyo with 50kw on 810 are still possible in
> > the
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > US
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > I found this list of FN frequencies, which also incldues TV and FM.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > http://media.myafn.dodmedia.osd.mil/docs/afn/AFN%
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > 20Pacific%20Frequencies%20as%20of%2026%20July%202016.docx
> >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Some of the lower powered ones may be off the air, Chris KAdlec has
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > mentioned he hasn't heard Red Cloud in years.
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Patrick Martin]

Chris,


Thanks for the update on 1440. Maybe a possibility here, but too bad it is co 
channel with JOWF. As I mentioned, I have tried for any AFN Korean station for 
decades without any luck. It is also possible than one could have been in the 
jumble, without knowing it with good openings to the FE. I have heard a jumble 
on many splits through the years with several Chinese stations on a single 
frequency, so anything is possible. But nothing to ID anything that even 
sounded like an AFN station.


Patrick


Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager



From: IRCA  on behalf of Chris Kadlec 

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:15 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

Patrick,

I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another story. I
wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They upgraded
their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080
frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw Haeju
just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on
1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw
stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having gone
to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm these
days for non-government (KBS) stations.

1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA turns
off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have clear
signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals and
Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly in
Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.

And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw on the
USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that tower
which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the
Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w or so,
and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info you can
get!!

-Chris Kadlec
 Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide


> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
> From: Patrick Martin 
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>
> DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are
> running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that
> good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much
> coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer
> said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their
> ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810,
> 648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS
> outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

[Neil Kazaross]

For NL, way back after CBL went off when there was no Toronto station I got
740 in IL once. From WI which is much better towards the ENE than here in
IL 750 using Phased BOGs comes in sometimes. //990 has shown up a couple
times. 1140 CBI once. Cx that bring them in typically are also good for
lower latitude TA's...ie Spain everywhere. CKNB 950 is a regular when using
those ENE BOGs in WI but never a trace in IL even with the DKAZ array beam
steered ENE. The effect of my WI place being on a bluff about 150 ft above
the Lake Michigan shore and being a bit closer to them, I presume.

Defunct Maritimes on 720 and 780 were possible with Phased BOGs in IL even
though I am closer than 15 miles to both Chicago superpowers. 73 KAZ

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Saul Chernos  wrote:

> For NL: 740 sometimes audible u/CBL here... Also CBC on 540, 640, 990
> though no
> CBCs in many years.
>
> For NS - Barry MCLarnon's site lists five. 1140 may be your best bet (I
> have not
> aimed east in two years, LOL!). I have yet to hear 1350, 1420, 1450. Have
> only
> heard 1270 once, though it was loud and alone at the time (strange).
> 1140 CBI SYDNEY NS 1 1 DA-2 VARIETY CBC RADIO ONE //CBIS-FM 92.1
> 1270 CJCB SIDNEY NS 1 1 DA-N C&W 1270 CJCB
> 1350 CKAD MIDDLETON NS 1000 1000 DA-1 C&W AVR NETWORK
> 1420 CKDY DIGBY NS 1000 1000 DA-1 C&W AVR NETWORK
> 1450 CFAB WINDSOR NS 1000 1000 NDA C&W AVR NETWORK APP MOVE TO FM
>
> Saul Chernos
> Burnt River ON
>
>
>
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: Tim Tromp 
> > Date: December 28, 2016 at 9:05 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Saul,
> >
> > This may require me to setup a temporary BOG or loop outside aimed
> directly at
> > DE to cross this state off my list since neither antenna favor this
> bearing at
> > all. Rhode Island? Only one in the logbook and it's 630 WPRO. Canadian
> > provinces still needed: all the hard ones! Newfoundland, Nova Scotia,
> NT, etc.
> > I did snag New Brunswick via 540 just before CBGA1 went silent.
> >
> > 73,
> > -Tim
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Saul Chernos 
> wrote:
> >
> > 1150 is indeed one good option for DE. 1410 also can get out, Tim, and
> you
> > don't
> >  have CKSL London ON in the way anymore there. DE 1330 also can do well
> in
> >  semi-auroral cx here. Others heard are on 900, 1280, 1290, 1450, 1600.
> I'm
> > about
> >  500 miles out, so not that far. You're on the west side of MI, and from
> the
> > ease
> >  you get my targets from out west, and TPs (I have none here save hets),
> I can
> >  well imagine you'll find DE a challenge. What have you heard from RI?
> What
> > about
> >  the Cdn provinces?
> >
> >  Congrats on your milestone, and in fairly short order to boot!
> >
> >  Saul Chernos
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Re: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

[Chris Kadlec]

Congrats Tim!

You give me hope for AM here in West Michigan. For living a half hour from 
me, your catches are impressive. But after dealing with AM in East Asia, I'm 
still far too unmotivated to bother with it here without special equipment 
to pick up anything distant. Just not worth it anymore when the AM content 
is so dull.


-Chris Kadlec




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Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:32:56 -0500
From: Tim Tromp 
Subject: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

I had hopes of hitting #2000 before the year ended, and that goal was
accomplished yesterday afternoon when a faint 1490 KLGR was heard.  I 
don't
count call changes and all logs between 530-1710 kHz have been from my 
same

suburban west Michigan location.

I started my logbook in 2009 with a "barefoot" DX-440 that was good for a
few hundred stations, but I wanted more!  Enter the Quantum Loop, which
worked wonderfully with the DX-440, and netted me a few hundred more
stations including my first Trans-Atlantic station (1134 Croatia) and
several more TAs to follow, most of which are now history.  Still wanting
more, but reaching the limit of the Q Loop, I knew it was time to go
bigger.  I bought a 500 FT spool of wire and laid it on the ground in a
straight line, connected it to the DX-440, and started logging a whole new
mix of more distant stations.  I learned more about BOGs and discovered 
how

Neil Kazaross was phasing two of them and soon went back to DX Tools and
purchased a Quantum Phaser to try it for myself.

It didn't take long to hit #1000 with this setup.  At this point I'm
pushing the DX-440 to its limit, so I decided to try SDR and eventually
opted for the Perseus which I still use today.  A reversible D-KAZ loop 
was

also added to the mix a few years ago.

Some obligatory stats since starting this adventure in 2009: 47 states
heard with AK, HI & DE still needed (keep dreaming).  Most distant catch:
702 2BL Sydney @ 9,345 miles/15,039 km.  Nearest unheard: WBCH @ just 59
miles!  169 graveyarders and 37 countries heard on MW.  Recordings of some
of my more interesting catches are posted to YouTube here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/kilokat7

Happy New Year & Good DX,
Tim Tromp
West Michigan


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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Chris Kadlec]

Patrick,

I think they're correct about Korea anyway. Japan could be another story. I 
wholly believe that AFN on 1440 Daegu is running a full 5kw. They upgraded 
their equipment back in May when they moved from the very-occupied 1080 
frequency (Seoul was on there jamming as well as MBC Yeosu and 1500kw Haeju 
just outside of metro Seoul and the list goes on) and when they came on 
1440, they had a very good signal, far, far better than the 10 and 20kw 
stations half the distance from Seoul that are inaudible, many having gone 
to much lower power due to lack of listeners, as is the Korean norm these 
days for non-government (KBS) stations.


1575 is a regular in Seoul and comes in like a 1kw station once VOA turns 
off. It wouldn't compare to the other Japanese 5kw stations that have clear 
signals from down there. I've never heard 810 before because of locals and 
Hangzhou is 150kw. 648 is certainly 10kw. I could hear that regularly in 
Seoul from nearly 800 miles out.


And the document mentions authorized power of course, not actual. 3kw on the 
USAG Humphreys' FM signal ain't happening. I lived 7 miles from that tower 
which bleeds like mad into the adjacent 88.5 Osan 8 miles from the 
Humphreys' tower on 88.3. 88.3 isn't running 3kw but the standard 50w or so, 
and they both get out a good 40 miles at that. But you take the info you can 
get!!


-Chris Kadlec
Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide



Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 06:15:37 +
From: Patrick Martin 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

DX friends in Korea tell me that none of the Korean  AFN stations are 
running a full 5 KW, (As some are listed),as they just do not have that 
good a signal. The towers are short and they just do not have much 
coverage. I tried for years to nab one, but no luck here as yet. One Dxer 
said some years back, that he never heard any when he was in Japan. Their 
ground system probably leaves a lot to be desired. I have heard AFN-810, 
648, and 1575 (Japan), as well as  AFTRS 1550 (Now 810) and several AFRTS 
outlets from Taiwan in the 60s (1560-1570).



Patrick


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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I  saw a mention of two 1512khz relays from about 6 months agi which lead
me to believe it was on and interestingly The Radio Heritage PAL has
them listed as Thunder AM! When, in reality, the information I found would
seem to suggest 1512 is relay of AFN Eagle Daegu! The same PAL list seems
to suggest AFN Daegu is Thunder AM, when again, the same information I
found, seems to suggest 1440 Daegu is Eagle.


Paul

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Chris Kadlec 
wrote:

> Excuse the long-winded reply here, but I'm obviously passionate about the
> correct flow of detailed information, for which you'll all see when I
> release my 100+ bandscan guide soon...
>
> Chuck, with all due respect to Alan Davies (who is usually too busy with
> his site to reply to e-mails), Asiawaves is often very inaccurate. It takes
> a person living on the ground in that region to know how much of the
> information on that site is either out of date or just plain wrong.
>
> The problem is that the site is only as good as the resources used to
> build it. In the case of Korea and eastern China, I feel I am one of his
> main resources (though totally indirectly as I've never shared it with him
> one-on-one) for the fact that the changes I post eventually make it to his
> site in a week or two. And the many things I stay totally quiet on are
> never corrected and are often years out of date. (Figuring I'd probably not
> get any credit for the hundreds of hours of my own research to get correct
> info, so why bother sharing it privately at all til I release it under my
> own name??)
>
> So with AFN (and KBS!), until earlier this year, there were about 2+ dozen
> inactive frequencies that were still listed on that site before I said
> "umm, these have been off the air for *years*!" and were more or less
> mostly deleted after that.
>
> The lesson is that you should *ALWAYS* seek out a second source of
> information if you want to add something to a log or public info site like
> that, depending on how detailed you like to be.
>
> My Seoul AM Listening Guide bandscan project will be finished at the end
> of this week (final touches right now!) with a 110-page guide and 3-hour
> audio bandscan. Without Alan's site, who knows how many extra months it
> would have taken to figure out what station was what when I started that.
> It was an awesome starting point I am grateful for. But in the end, the
> details of perhaps 25% (not bad) of the 230 regular skywave stations were
> incorrect - China changes formats and station names like the wind and
> builds new tower sites the same - imagine the misinformation I would be
> passing on by taking it at face value. It's unacceptable (to do that) in my
> eyes.
>
> So in regards to AFN, having the internal information source, albeit not
> entirely accurate as the military IS the military after all, is important.
> Yes, Red Cloud has been off the air for years, but even I, while living in
> Korea, was unaware that 1512 was on the air in Jinhae and Pohang, which
> Paul sleuthed around (in very public places I was too lazy to bother with)
> to confirm that they *are* indeed on. But imagine if you had heard pop
> music on 1161, just for example, and went to Asiawaves and said "oh,
> there's an AFN on there!!! I got AFN" when in fact, AFN there switched to
> AM years ago and the entry is false? Or the same with the numerous KBS
> entries, some of them having been very high-powered stations audible across
> the Pacific in the past.
>
> Always confirm information, no matter how good you assume a source is, or
> you're just contributing to misinformation. :) Just my two (or ten) cents.
>
> Hopefully my information can contribute to Alan's site, and hopefully I
> get an ounce of credit for it as I have given him. When it takes you 6
> months to realize two jammers are running parallel, it would suck when
> someone just posts that in 10 seconds without credit for all your standing
> in the winter wind and snow trying to figure it out for certain.
>
> -Chris Kadlec
> Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:38:55 +
>> From: Chuck Hutton 
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
>>
>> The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
>> orf the world, so why use individual lists?
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Chris Kadlec]

Excuse the long-winded reply here, but I'm obviously passionate about the 
correct flow of detailed information, for which you'll all see when I 
release my 100+ bandscan guide soon...


Chuck, with all due respect to Alan Davies (who is usually too busy with his 
site to reply to e-mails), Asiawaves is often very inaccurate. It takes a 
person living on the ground in that region to know how much of the 
information on that site is either out of date or just plain wrong.


The problem is that the site is only as good as the resources used to build 
it. In the case of Korea and eastern China, I feel I am one of his main 
resources (though totally indirectly as I've never shared it with him 
one-on-one) for the fact that the changes I post eventually make it to his 
site in a week or two. And the many things I stay totally quiet on are never 
corrected and are often years out of date. (Figuring I'd probably not get 
any credit for the hundreds of hours of my own research to get correct info, 
so why bother sharing it privately at all til I release it under my own 
name??)


So with AFN (and KBS!), until earlier this year, there were about 2+ dozen 
inactive frequencies that were still listed on that site before I said "umm, 
these have been off the air for *years*!" and were more or less mostly 
deleted after that.


The lesson is that you should *ALWAYS* seek out a second source of 
information if you want to add something to a log or public info site like 
that, depending on how detailed you like to be.


My Seoul AM Listening Guide bandscan project will be finished at the end of 
this week (final touches right now!) with a 110-page guide and 3-hour audio 
bandscan. Without Alan's site, who knows how many extra months it would have 
taken to figure out what station was what when I started that. It was an 
awesome starting point I am grateful for. But in the end, the details of 
perhaps 25% (not bad) of the 230 regular skywave stations were incorrect - 
China changes formats and station names like the wind and builds new tower 
sites the same - imagine the misinformation I would be passing on by taking 
it at face value. It's unacceptable (to do that) in my eyes.


So in regards to AFN, having the internal information source, albeit not 
entirely accurate as the military IS the military after all, is important. 
Yes, Red Cloud has been off the air for years, but even I, while living in 
Korea, was unaware that 1512 was on the air in Jinhae and Pohang, which Paul 
sleuthed around (in very public places I was too lazy to bother with) to 
confirm that they *are* indeed on. But imagine if you had heard pop music on 
1161, just for example, and went to Asiawaves and said "oh, there's an AFN 
on there!!! I got AFN" when in fact, AFN there switched to AM years ago and 
the entry is false? Or the same with the numerous KBS entries, some of them 
having been very high-powered stations audible across the Pacific in the 
past.


Always confirm information, no matter how good you assume a source is, or 
you're just contributing to misinformation. :) Just my two (or ten) cents.


Hopefully my information can contribute to Alan's site, and hopefully I get 
an ounce of credit for it as I have given him. When it takes you 6 months to 
realize two jammers are running parallel, it would suck when someone just 
posts that in 10 seconds without credit for all your standing in the winter 
wind and snow trying to figure it out for certain.


-Chris Kadlec
Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide




Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:38:55 +
From: Chuck Hutton 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner 
orf the world, so why use individual lists?



Chuck



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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies

[Richard N Allen]

I will take the word of a hobbyist over that of an official publication.  The 
hobbyists such as Bruce normally re-check their information, while the drudges 
who prepare the so-called official publications rarely bother with.  This 
wasn't always the case, but it is today, and will continue to worsen.

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Re: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

[Robert Ross]

On 2016-12-29, at 7:50 AM, Saul Chernos wrote:

> Keep at it Rob, you're gaining exponentially on us old-schoolers with your
> SDR…

Yes, my AM and FM Totals have really grown since getting the SDR. Spent a lot 
of years concentrating on SHORT WAVE DX, and my BCB DX Totals suffered for it, 
but I'm slowly crawling from the wreckage!!!


> 
> Tim is in west Michigan, so is WBCH (Hastings, 1220). What's the story there,
> Tim? I have not heard it either. It's on my target list. Rob, have you? I'm
> curious.


Nope……..I don't have WBCH either!! Cleveland is a Big problem for me on 1220 
Khz.

I also hear WGNY, WJUN, WKRS, and WSLM quite a bit. That 250 Watter from 
Western Michigan hasn't showed up here yet!!


73..ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA
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[IRCA] Oklahoma TP DX 12/29/16

[Richard N Allen]

It was another disappointing DX session here this morning (LSR 1341).  The only 
signal detected from across the Pacific was from HLAZ-1566.  It was heard with 
a barely audible signal fading in at 1327 and fading away at 1332.  The signal 
was strongest at 1329 with man talking.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.
Skywave & FSL.

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Re: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

[Saul Chernos]

Keep at it Rob, you're gaining exponentially on us old-schoolers with your
SDR...

Tim is in west Michigan, so is WBCH (Hastings, 1220). What's the story there,
Tim? I have not heard it either. It's on my target list. Rob, have you? I'm
curious.

Mind you, I never heard 600 CBC LPRT in Bancroft ON before it moved to FM
earlier this year. But I'm told the station was inaudible beyond the town
limits. (I have heard 40-watt CBC LPRTs from farther away).

Saul Chernos
Burnt River ON

> -- Original Message --
> From: Robert Ross 
> Date: December 29, 2016 at 6:18 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> 
> >> On 12/28/2016 8:32 AM, Tim Tromp wrote:
> 
> >>> Some obligatory stats since starting this adventure in 2009: 47 states
> >>> heard with AK, HI & DE still needed (keep dreaming). Most distant catch:
> >>> 702 2BL Sydney @ 9,345 miles/15,039 km. Nearest unheard: WBCH @ just 59
> >>> miles! 169 graveyarders and 37 countries heard on MW. Recordings of some
> >>> of my more interesting catches are posted to YouTube here:
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/user/kilokat7
> >>> 
> >>> Happy New Year & Good DX,
> >>> Tim Tromp
> >>> West Michigan
> 
> 
> Hi Tim:
> 
>  Congrats on your 2000 AM'ers hit recently!! An Amazing feat for the time
> period involved!
> 
> I am 14 Stations from the 2,000 Mark but over a much longer time period. I
> have also heard 47 States from here in London, Ontario.
> 
> I still need Hawaii, Alaska, Idaho and Oregon.
> 
> For Provinces, I just need Newfoundland and the Territories.
> 
> I am not too much farther East of you and I have had quite good luck logging
> DELAWARE, I'm sure you will get them eventuallly!
> 
> Here are the 6 Stations I have logged from Delaware, maybe you can snag one of
> these???
> 
> 1260 WNRK
> 1450 WILM
> 900 WJWL
> 1280 WSFD
> 1150 WDEL
> 1410 WDOV
> 
> I hear 1450, 1150, and 1410 fairly regularly, so they may be your best bets!
> 
> 73…ROB VA3SW
> 
> Robert S. Ross
> London, Ontario CANADA
> 
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Re: [IRCA] #2000 logged from Michigan

[Robert Ross]

>> 
>> On 12/28/2016 8:32 AM, Tim Tromp wrote:

>>> Some obligatory stats since starting this adventure in 2009: 47 states
>>> heard with AK, HI & DE still needed (keep dreaming).  Most distant catch:
>>> 702 2BL Sydney @ 9,345 miles/15,039 km.  Nearest unheard: WBCH @ just 59
>>> miles!  169 graveyarders and 37 countries heard on MW.  Recordings of some
>>> of my more interesting catches are posted to YouTube here:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/kilokat7
>>> 
>>> Happy New Year & Good DX,
>>> Tim Tromp
>>> West Michigan


Hi Tim:

Congrats on your 2000 AM'ers hit recently!! An Amazing feat for the time 
period involved!

I am 14 Stations from the 2,000 Mark but over a much longer time period. I have 
also heard 47 States from here in London, Ontario.

I still need Hawaii, Alaska, Idaho and Oregon.

For Provinces,  I just need Newfoundland and the Territories.

I am not too much farther East of you and I have had quite good luck logging 
DELAWARE, I'm sure you will get them eventuallly!

Here are the 6 Stations I have logged from Delaware, maybe you can snag one of 
these???

1260 WNRK
1450 WILM
900   WJWL
1280 WSFD
1150 WDEL
1410 WDOV

I hear 1450, 1150, and 1410 fairly regularly, so they may be your best bets!

73…ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA


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