Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:38, Patrick Martin wrote: > No neighbors around here have the internet as far as I can tell. I may > be the only one in my area with the internet. If you are stuck with dial-up or ISDN, and want to maximize what you have, email me off list and we can discuss some of the options that are easily implemented dirt cheap to make things lots better than your current setup. Rick Kunath ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
No neighbors around here have the internet as far as I can tell. I may be the only one in my area with the internet. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Tim, Thanks for the advice. I will add that to my possible options too. Cost and lack of QRN are my main objects. If I can find something better at a low cost that does not increase my noise level, I will probably go for it. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Patrick Have you checked the neighbors speed ? I had lots of of trouble when I moved here 4 yrs ago with intermitant line noise. Even when I had a "quiet" line 28.8 was reason for a big party. Finaly they rerouted my line through some newer stuff adding 2 ( abt 7 mi total ) miles to the exchange BUT I now get 45-50K always. Doubling the speed makes a big differance. Also try a twisted pair directly to the outside box with everything else unhooked & see if that helps. Bottom line is if you hear ANY noises ever work with the phone co to clean things up. It took abt 8 visits but it paid off. 73 Tom Jones Mason N.H. On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:25:12 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Martin) writes: > Russ, > > I don't need DSL. I just want something decent, 26.4 doesn't do too > well. If I could get up in to 40s or 50s, I would be happy. > > Patrick > > Patrick Martin > KAVT Reception Manager > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of > the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
> The best dial-up or leased-line modem in the known universe is the U.S. > Robotics Courier. I'll echo that. At one point I had six dial-up lines on my Chowdanet BBS (one now, plus telnet nodes). I tried all sorts of modems and ended up with six USR Couriers. Still use a Courier on the one remaining dialup node. Works better than anything else. I also use one at home for the occasional dialup connect. Never found anything better. Stay away from the internal Winmodems. Unmitigated sewage plant fodder.. Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Wow. I posted this message 24 hours ago. Nice of it to appear finally. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Kridel Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:08 AM To: 'Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America' Subject: Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update In your area, Sprint currently offers 1XRTT, which has a peak download speed of about 144 kbps. That's under ideal conditions, such as a strong signal. If you live in a sparsely populated area of Seaside, then you probably wouldn't be competing with many other Sprint customers for the same network resources. Translation: You'd have most of the 144 kbps to yourself. I think you probably would get average speeds of 100 kbps. Same for Verizon Wireless, which also uses 1XRTT in your area. At your QTH, do you have a good, strong signal on your Verizon Wireless cell phone? If so, then their service might be worth checking out. To test Sprint, you'd have to find someone who has a Sprint phone and take it to your place. Just pay close attention to pricing. If you tell them that you want it for Internet access for your PC, you'll probably have to pay a higher rate than the unlimited data usage packages for cell phones/smartphones. (That's because PCs have more processing power and application capabilities, so they can use more bandwidth in a month.) Also pay attention to how the modem connects to your PC. Most are PC cards, which are designed for laptops. But a few connect via USB, which is easier for desktop PCs because you don't have to buy a card reader. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Martin Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:25 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update We have Verizon Wireless for cel phone and AT&T here. I use Verizon for my cel phone now. I have not called Verizon or AT&T to see if they offer internet service. Maybe I should give that a shot. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
In your area, Sprint currently offers 1XRTT, which has a peak download speed of about 144 kbps. That's under ideal conditions, such as a strong signal. If you live in a sparsely populated area of Seaside, then you probably wouldn't be competing with many other Sprint customers for the same network resources. Translation: You'd have most of the 144 kbps to yourself. I think you probably would get average speeds of 100 kbps. Same for Verizon Wireless, which also uses 1XRTT in your area. At your QTH, do you have a good, strong signal on your Verizon Wireless cell phone? If so, then their service might be worth checking out. To test Sprint, you'd have to find someone who has a Sprint phone and take it to your place. Just pay close attention to pricing. If you tell them that you want it for Internet access for your PC, you'll probably have to pay a higher rate than the unlimited data usage packages for cell phones/smartphones. (That's because PCs have more processing power and application capabilities, so they can use more bandwidth in a month.) Also pay attention to how the modem connects to your PC. Most are PC cards, which are designed for laptops. But a few connect via USB, which is easier for desktop PCs because you don't have to buy a card reader. Hope that helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Martin Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 10:25 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update We have Verizon Wireless for cel phone and AT&T here. I use Verizon for my cel phone now. I have not called Verizon or AT&T to see if they offer internet service. Maybe I should give that a shot. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Totally separate from the technical side, phone lines that get yanked on by 80 mph winds and have corrosion on exposed areas from salt water probably get in your way too. Mike Rick Kunath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick Martin wrote: > I need to check to make sure the phoneline connections aren't slowing > things down too. Yep. Un-needed loading coils on the line will do that, as will unterminated runs to elsewhere both in home and out in the telco POTS plant, Paralleled phones in the home can sometimes slow down speeds, as can certain telco line protectors and surge suppressors. The paralleled phone issue can be eliminated by feeding the phones from the phone output of the modem, as this is disconnected during a dial-up call. This also eliminates the possibility of a disconnection when someone picks up a phone in the home. And all modems are not created equal either. Lots of cheaper modems will fail to re-train upwards after a downward speed shift. Some get into a spiral of death to slow speeds with time. Winmodems in general are poor performers. The best dial-up or leased-line modem in the known universe is the U.S. Robotics Courier. I have lots of them on dial-up access and leased line service and there is nothing I have found that will beat them for training up after a slowdown or hanging at a high rate under trying line conditions. I get better speeds from a Courier handling a connection on a leased line halfway around the world than I do with one of the Winmodems I have here on a local call. Another good performer is the U.S. Robotics Sportster (real and not win-modem model), the full controller-based model. Look for Linux compatibility on the box and you'll know it's a full controller-based modem. The Sportster is no Courier though. The Couriers show up pretty cheap sometimes, and any of them can be flashed to the latest firmware revision. The other hint to speeding up dial-up is to locally cache DNS lookups and locally cache web page elements (and OS and other application updates). This has the effect of delivering unchanged content on previously visited pages at high speeds, while fetching over dial-up only those elements that have changed since the last page view. it can make a world of difference on a dial-up connection. Lastly, the reported dial-up connection speed is only the speed at the initial connect. It is not the current speed. Most modem makers bias this to a high value to make the user think he is getting a good connection. Shortly these train downward and the reported speed is no longer valid. Rick Kunath ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Patrick Martin wrote: > I need to check to make sure the phoneline connections aren't slowing > things down too. Yep. Un-needed loading coils on the line will do that, as will unterminated runs to elsewhere both in home and out in the telco POTS plant, Paralleled phones in the home can sometimes slow down speeds, as can certain telco line protectors and surge suppressors. The paralleled phone issue can be eliminated by feeding the phones from the phone output of the modem, as this is disconnected during a dial-up call. This also eliminates the possibility of a disconnection when someone picks up a phone in the home. And all modems are not created equal either. Lots of cheaper modems will fail to re-train upwards after a downward speed shift. Some get into a spiral of death to slow speeds with time. Winmodems in general are poor performers. The best dial-up or leased-line modem in the known universe is the U.S. Robotics Courier. I have lots of them on dial-up access and leased line service and there is nothing I have found that will beat them for training up after a slowdown or hanging at a high rate under trying line conditions. I get better speeds from a Courier handling a connection on a leased line halfway around the world than I do with one of the Winmodems I have here on a local call. Another good performer is the U.S. Robotics Sportster (real and not win-modem model), the full controller-based model. Look for Linux compatibility on the box and you'll know it's a full controller-based modem. The Sportster is no Courier though. The Couriers show up pretty cheap sometimes, and any of them can be flashed to the latest firmware revision. The other hint to speeding up dial-up is to locally cache DNS lookups and locally cache web page elements (and OS and other application updates). This has the effect of delivering unchanged content on previously visited pages at high speeds, while fetching over dial-up only those elements that have changed since the last page view. it can make a world of difference on a dial-up connection. Lastly, the reported dial-up connection speed is only the speed at the initial connect. It is not the current speed. Most modem makers bias this to a high value to make the user think he is getting a good connection. Shortly these train downward and the reported speed is no longer valid. Rick Kunath ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Russ, I need to check to make sure the phoneline connections aren't slowing things down too. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Patrick Martin wrote: > We have Verizon Wireless for cel phone and AT&T here. I use Verizon for > my cel phone now. I have not called Verizon or AT&T to see if they offer > internet service. Maybe I should give that a shot. I've used Verizon before, and ATT/Cingular as well as Nextel also. I run a wide area public safety backhaul network over 2g and 3g wireless here as a backup to my microwave backbone and I've had the chance to test most of the vendor's offerings. Keep in mind that (unless you are a corporate user spending millions with them) wireless access is anything but unlimited, no matter what the plan says (just like satellite). It won't be that hard to run against invisible caps if you do any appreciable amount of usage other than simple text-based email. One other more important thing is that wireless access is pull-based. This means that apps that work because they need a real IP (dynamic or static) won't work on 3g. 3g does not have what you would refer to as a real IP present out on the Internet, so you have to initiate any connection from your end and any app that needs to initiate a send from it's end won't work (lots do.) I actually have servers in place to simulate that inside the VLAN we run for our backup network and I have virtual IP addresses available, but it's not affordable to the typical single user. Be aware of the limitations before you go that route if you decide to, and you'll be OK, but don't expect to have the same level of "stuff just works" as you do with a real IP from dial-up, DSL, or cable access (satellite is double-natted and has it's own issues.) Pay attention to what apps you need to work, verify that they will, and have monitoring software running to avoid running into the invisible caps, and you might be happy. Rick Kunath ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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Russ Edmunds wrote: > *** Alas, you won't be ab;e to get much better than that from dial up, > and there's nothing I'm aware of in between. ISDN Rick Kunath ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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Mike, Technically I am "kind of", but it was the their engineer that contacted me, not the station directly. What is available in Fresno, is not available in rural Oregon, probably. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
We have Verizon Wireless for cel phone and AT&T here. I use Verizon for my cel phone now. I have not called Verizon or AT&T to see if they offer internet service. Maybe I should give that a shot. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Patrick, What does KAVT use for Internet. Since you are an "employee," maybe they could hook you up with a deal, so to speak. Actually, I'm serioustalk to them. All they can say is No, and maybe they'll say yes. Just a thought. Mike ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
--- Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russ, > > I don't need DSL. I just want something decent, 26.4 doesn't do too > well. If I could get up in to 40s or 50s, I would be happy. > > *** Alas, you won't be ab;e to get much better than that from dial up, and there's nothing I'm aware of in between. Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Hammarlund HQ-150 & 4' FET air core loop Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Try 3G cellular, which probably is availabile in your area. I can check to see who offers what, if you want. -Original Message- From: "Patrick Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" Sent: 2/12/07 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update Russ, I don't need DSL. I just want something decent, 26.4 doesn't do too well. If I could get up in to 40s or 50s, I would be happy. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Russ, I don't need DSL. I just want something decent, 26.4 doesn't do too well. If I could get up in to 40s or 50s, I would be happy. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
--- Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > You can't say I haven't tried. I called Qwest this morning to make > sure > DSL is not available out here. It isn't. I then called Charter Cable > and > yes High Speed internet is available out here, for the 3 meg/sec > charge > is a promotion for only the first three months ($19.99). *** This parallels what I experienced 6-7 years ago with Verizon. They couldn't/wouldn't offer DSL to me back then because the existing tariffs dictated they'd have to charge me over $100/month. My son, who lived at home, and really wanted the DSL, found a 3rd party provider who would do it for $90, so he went for it. A couple of years later a different provider offered $75. By the time he moved out 2 1/2 years ago, Verizon was available at $40, which subsequently got as low as $32. But I'm not as rural as you are. But you are also unlikely to see the cost go down much below $40 because of that. Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Hammarlund HQ-150 & 4' FET air core loop Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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Thanks Scott. I guess if I needed in business, I would feel different, but until a few months back I did not even own a computer. Web TV was fine with me. I like the computer a lot, but DXing is more important to me as you know. You saw my antenna farm. hi. I plan to add one more dish and another EWE antenna this Summer too. Hopefully I can find something to speed things up a bit. I would like to get 40 rather than the 26.4 I do get (norm). Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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Patrick Martin wrote: > Greetings, > > You can't say I haven't tried. I called Qwest this morning to make sure > DSL is not available out here. It isn't. I then called Charter Cable and > yes High Speed internet is available out here, for the 3 meg/sec charge > is a promotion for only the first three months ($19.99). After that (Are > you sitting down?) it is $53.99 a month! It would be less if I had their > TV cable service ($10 less a month) and if I lived in town. The further > out you are, the more they charge. Satellite internet is $60 a month > plus $300 to get it set up. I will stay with the 26.4 I guess. Those > prices are too expensive for me. Living out of town has benefits for > DXing, but some other things you are out of luck on. I can't speak to the satellite prices, but that's not at all an unusual price for cable internet. I believe Time Warner here in Rochester charges $49/month for its Road Runner service if you don't have cable TV, and $39/month if you do. Well worth it, as far as I'm concerned, but then I need it at home for work, too. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] (OT) High Speed internet update
Greetings, You can't say I haven't tried. I called Qwest this morning to make sure DSL is not available out here. It isn't. I then called Charter Cable and yes High Speed internet is available out here, for the 3 meg/sec charge is a promotion for only the first three months ($19.99). After that (Are you sitting down?) it is $53.99 a month! It would be less if I had their TV cable service ($10 less a month) and if I lived in town. The further out you are, the more they charge. Satellite internet is $60 a month plus $300 to get it set up. I will stay with the 26.4 I guess. Those prices are too expensive for me. Living out of town has benefits for DXing, but some other things you are out of luck on. Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
