Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC
The system doesnt KNOW to do it, it has to be toldIt doesnt instinctively know to insert an iD, and if you don't hear any IDs at TOH, then assume it was a mistake because stations have to actually program them in A Daytimers automation is usually programmed for only when it's on air, for good reason. no programming is usually done after hours, no local spots, ids or content.. Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC
Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC
Thanks for all the interesting discussion. I emailed WDIC but so far haven't got a reply. For anyone interested, here's my recording of their id http://paulc.fileave.com/1430WDIC.wav Paul Troon, Scotland Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: The system doesnt KNOW to do it, it has to be toldIt doesnt instinctively know to insert an iD, and if you don't hear any IDs at TOH, then assume it was a mistake because stations have to actually program them in A Daytimers automation is usually programmed for only when it's on air, for good reason. no programming is usually done after hours, no local spots, ids or content.. Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil mailto:david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com mailto:midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com mailto:8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net mailto:pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com http://www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] 1430 WDIC
Nice clear ID, Paul! It will be interesting to see if they respond to your email. They may not want to acknowledge that they were on the air at 4:00 AM local time. Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 10:46 am Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Thanks for all the interesting discussion. I emailed WDIC but so far haven't got a reply. For anyone interested, here's my recording of their id http://paulc.fileave.com/1430WDIC.wav Paul Troon, Scotland Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: The system doesnt KNOW to do it, it has to be toldIt doesnt instinctively know to insert an iD, and if you don't hear any IDs at TOH, then assume it was a mistake because stations have to actually program them in A Daytimers automation is usually programmed for only when it's on air, for good reason. no programming is usually done after hours, no local spots, ids or content.. Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil mailto:david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com mailto:midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com mailto:8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net mailto:pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com http://www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC
But Paul (Walker), I have heard daytime stations at night, running ID's and adsets and everything (and some only w/bird' programming and nothing at TOH time but dead air). Wonder if maybe the daytimer was streaming 24/7 and maybe that is what the inadvertenly left on tranmitter was broadcasting? 73, Dave -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:03:57 -0600 From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com To: HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil Cc: a...@lists.wtfda.info, Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@comcast.net, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com, Doug Smith w...@earthlink.net, irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8bce0fe81001280703n55cf209eoc71ba5a05745...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The system doesnt KNOW to do it, it has to be toldIt doesnt instinctively know to insert an iD, and if you don't hear any IDs at TOH, then assume it was a mistake because stations have to actually program them in A Daytimers automation is usually programmed for only when it's on air, for good reason. no programming is usually done after hours, no local spots, ids or content.. Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC
Ah, yes, forgot about that part.. some daytimers continue to stream onlin overnight and leave id's and everything in, and when the transmitter glitches and the remote control doesn't turn it off, thats why you hear that Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 11:29 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: But Paul (Walker), I have heard daytime stations at night, running ID's and adsets and everything (and some only w/bird' programming and nothing at TOH time but dead air). Wonder if maybe the daytimer was streaming 24/7 and maybe that is what the inadvertenly left on tranmitter was broadcasting? 73, Dave -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:03:57 -0600 From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com To: HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil Cc: a...@lists.wtfda.info, Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@comcast.net, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com, Doug Smith w...@earthlink.net, irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8bce0fe81001280703n55cf209eoc71ba5a05745...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The system doesnt KNOW to do it, it has to be toldIt doesnt instinctively know to insert an iD, and if you don't hear any IDs at TOH, then assume it was a mistake because stations have to actually program them in A Daytimers automation is usually programmed for only when it's on air, for good reason. no programming is usually done after hours, no local spots, ids or content.. Paul On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:31 AM, HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS david.hasc...@dfas.mil wrote: Well good for Paul as he got to hear a station that he might not have heard BUT I have a question about daytimers on late: If a daytimer doesn't sign off at night, due to a technology problem, how does the automation know to ID at the TOH? I have always wondered about this. I understand that if a station gets its programming off of a bird, that would still flow just fine but if a daytimer is on in error at 4 AM how would the system know to insert ID's and ads and not just have dead air during the local drop in times? Just curious. 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:01:52 -0500 From: Marc DeLorenzo midcapem...@aol.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC Message-ID: 8cc6dab15c1f052-ab94-1...@webmail-d022.sysops.aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] 1430 WDIC
1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] 1430 WDIC
Paul- They may have had a technical problem that either caused the station to sign on too early today or perhaps a problem that caused them to never sign off yesterday. NIce catch! Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com Marc DeLorenzo South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts http://www.wtfda.info/showthread.php?t=228 -Original Message- From: Paul Crankshaw pa...@omne.uk.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 3:03 pm Subject: [IRCA] 1430 WDIC 1430 WDIC Clinchco VA heard here in Scotland at 0900 UTC today with a fairish signal, although it is shown as being a daytimer. Any ideas? I presume 4 am would not be 'daytime' in VA! Paul Troon, Scotland ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
