Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Chuck, A longer recording of the same 729 station started at 1540 UTC is attached, with the same lady speaking most of the time, including the apparent mention of "Myanmar" at the 43 second point. https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pflnbymjhgx5m88l03wgvtsss7gnlfff This station rarely gets completely free of JOCK, but the Japanese does occasionally go MIA for a couple of minutes. Gary > On November 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: > > Gary: > > There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the > next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. > Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. > > The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible > rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was > better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. > > Chuck > > > > > > - > From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock > > Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:30 AM > To: America, Mailing > Subject: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC > > Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, > Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent > Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in > JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by > Hawaiian local splatter > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > > I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in > Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) > > > Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) > > 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + > > 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Gary - We're well aware of the cause of the ULR audio rolloff. I was trying to point out something that can be done post facto to improve your audio. If you are saying you set a highpass filter to 321 Hertz, my vote is that 321 Hz is a very extreme value. Half that at most seems normal. And as for ULR audio not matching perseus, of course it doesn't. But the goal here is to make the ULR audio better, not to compare it with perseus. Chuck From: Gary DeBock Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:11 PM To: Chuck Hutton; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC Chuck, Thanks for your assessment on the 729 UnID TP recording from this morning. <<< There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. >>> Wow, her accent is so heavy that I never could have pulled out that English-- but now that you mention it, the "Myanmar" at 9 seconds stands out pretty clearly (even without any wishful thinking). <<< The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. >>> The clipped-off audio above 1000 Hz is a congenital issue of the Ultralight radios in their 1 kHz DSP filtering selection, which is usually the only effective option when chasing split-frequency DX like this. In most of the recent recordings I've attempted to compensate somewhat by using Audacity's 321 Hz High Pass filter, but the resulting audio will still have rough edges in comparison to that of the Perseus-SDR and other SDR's. In any case, thanks again for your assessment. Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii) On November 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: Gary: There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:30 AM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by Hawaiian local splatter https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Chuck and Mauno, <<< To me also. I wonder if Gary checked for a parallel on 549 and 783? >>> At the time of the 729 reception these frequencies weren't checked, but they definitely will be checked from now on. Unfortunately neither frequency seems open enough in Kauai to let any weak signal get through. Gary > On November 4, 2018 at 12:57 PM Chuck Hutton mailto:charle...@msn.com > wrote: > > > To me also. I wonder if Gary checked for a parallel on 549 and 783? > > If I truly heard some English, is VoV2 known to carry any English? I;ve > not noticed any English. > > > Chuck > > > > From: IRCA mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com > on behalf of Mauno Ritola > mailto:mauno.rit...@realmonitor.com > > Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:37 PM > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC > > To my ears it sounds more Vietnamese than Burmese. (Re Myanmar: 729 kHz > should carry different programming than 576 and 594 kHz). > > Best regards, > > Mauno > > > Gary DeBock kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 21:30: > > > > Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in > Poipu, Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an > apparent Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a > fade in JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out > by Hawaiian local splatter > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > > > > > > > > I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this > station in Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) > > > > > > > > > > Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) > > > > > > > > 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + > > > > > > > > 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of > the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Chuck, Thanks for your assessment on the 729 UnID TP recording from this morning. <<< There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. >>> Wow, her accent is so heavy that I never could have pulled out that English-- but now that you mention it, the "Myanmar" at 9 seconds stands out pretty clearly (even without any wishful thinking). <<< The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. >>> The clipped-off audio above 1000 Hz is a congenital issue of the Ultralight radios in their 1 kHz DSP filtering selection, which is usually the only effective option when chasing split-frequency DX like this. In most of the recent recordings I've attempted to compensate somewhat by using Audacity's 321 Hz High Pass filter, but the resulting audio will still have rough edges in comparison to that of the Perseus-SDR and other SDR's. In any case, thanks again for your assessment. Gary (in Poipu, Hawaii) > On November 4, 2018 at 12:18 PM Chuck Hutton wrote: > > Gary: > > There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the > next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. > Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. > > The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible > rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was > better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. > > Chuck > > > > > > --------- > From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock > > Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:30 AM > To: America, Mailing > Subject: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC > > Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, > Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent > Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in > JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by > Hawaiian local splatter > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > > I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in > Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) > > > Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) > > 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + > > 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
To me also. I wonder if Gary checked for a parallel on 549 and 783? If I truly heard some English, is VoV2 known to carry any English? I;ve not noticed any English. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Mauno Ritola Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:37 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC To my ears it sounds more Vietnamese than Burmese. (Re Myanmar: 729 kHz should carry different programming than 576 and 594 kHz). Best regards, Mauno Gary DeBock kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 21:30: > Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, Hawaii > was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent Southeast > Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in JOCK, but > the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by Hawaiian local > splatter https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra > > I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in > Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) > > > Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) > > 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + > > 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
To my ears it sounds more Vietnamese than Burmese. (Re Myanmar: 729 kHz should carry different programming than 576 and 594 kHz). Best regards, Mauno Gary DeBock kirjoitti 4.11.2018 klo 21:30: Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by Hawaiian local splatter https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Gary: There's English in your recording. At :04 she says "this approach in the next summer". At :09, I think she says Myanmar. Some Myanmar stations have carried English in this time period. The audio was difficult to understand. After correcting for the terrible rolloff above 1000 Hz and also removing everything below 150 Hertz, it was better. I can't attach the file due to list limits on attachments. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Gary DeBock Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 11:30 AM To: America, Mailing Subject: [IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by Hawaiian local splatter https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] 729 Southeast Asian Language at 1541 UTC
Despite unfavorable solar predictions the morning session in Poipu, Hawaii was actually quite good today. This female speaker in an apparent Southeast Asian language was received at 1541 this morning during a fade in JOCK, but the Myanmar parallels on 576 and 594 are totally wiped out by Hawaiian local splatter https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/8223u80ejoorrd2raxoebdiogn0kbfra I know that Bill W., Chuck and Bruce have all received this station in Grayland, so it seems like I'm the last to track it down :-) Gary DeBock (DXing in Poipu, Kauai, Hawaii) 7.5" loopstick CC Skywave SSB Ultralight + 5" Frequent Flyer FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
