[IRCA] Apollo 13
Here's a question for those of you who are a lot smarter than I am...I'm watching Apollo 13 during the commercial breaks tonight while the ALA - LSU game is on. They show a couple of scenes in the movie where Jim Lovell's wife is listening to the transmissions from the spacecraft. It's a grey speaker, with a NASA logo on it, but it never appears to be attached to a radio. Anybody know anything about this? Did the families have access to the communications? It puzzles me every time I see it. KI4SYC Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
Hate to make you feel older than you are, Ira, but I know you were older than six. The last mission in the Apollo program was Apollo 18, which docked with Soyuz in the summer of 1975. I mention that because it's the ONLY Apollo mission that I remember watching on TV back when it was happening. :) 73, Rick Dau (not quite older than dirt yet) South Omaha, Nebraska From: Ira Elbert New III To: HardCore DX Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 Thanks. I was only six when the Apollo Program came to a close. I didn't know about the material being broadcast, but I do have fun reading over the transcripts from time-to-time. I don't know if the scenes were added for dramatic purposes or not, but it has always puzzled me whenever I see it. I meant to ask a long time ago and seeing it tonight on BRAVO made me think about asking. I'll ask Ron Howard the next time I see him. :) Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:37:13 -0500 > From: n...@mchsi.com > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > > IRCA, > > Several NASA installations broadcast the audio from manned space flights > from their facilities, on a frequency that most scanners could hear. > And others, like NASA Ames in the San Francisco Bay Area used to send it > to a one of the local Ham Radio repeaters. > > I drove down to Edward AFB to watch STS-4 land and took a scanner with > me. The Air Force was rebroadcasting both sides of the conversations > with the shuttle on a couple of different frequencies. > > I guess what I am trying to say is that I can think of a couple of ways > she could have been hearing the audio. Now whether or not that really > happened, or was it put in the movie for added drama? I don't know. > > Steve NG0G > > On 11/3/12 10:00 PM, Ira Elbert New III wrote: > > > > I see the shape of the speaker now. However, the questions still remains, > > where's the radio? How did Marilyn Lovell have access to the communications > > between the crew and the ground? Oh...and they moved the speaker to several > > places during the movie. Kinda' bugs me and I hope someone has an answer. > > > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > > >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:53:02 -0700 > >> From: ve2...@yahoo.com > >> To: a...@nrcdxas.org; irca@hard-core-dx.com; a...@am-dx.com; > >> ircamem...@ircaonline.org; a...@lists.wtfda.info; > >> radiobroadcast...@yahoogroups.com; dxl...@mwcircle.org; > >> jennifer_soroc...@cabo.wnyric.org; lostey2...@yahoo.com; > >> jennifersoroc...@hotmail.com > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > >> > >> I was talking to someone just the other day about that very scene in the > >> movie. The speaker you see is actually the external speaker for the old > >> Radio Shack/Realistic DX-160. I had one, so I recognized it immediately. > >> All they did was stick a NASA sticker on the front of it! Another > >> Hollywood blunder. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sheldon Harvey > >> Radio H.F. - Canada`s specialist in radio communications > >> http://www.radiohf.ca > >> > >> Editor & Publisher, Radio HF Internet Newsletter > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hfnewsletter > >> > >> Enjoy birds and birdwatching? > >> http://www.birdprotectionquebec.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Ira Elbert New III > >> To: HardCore DX ; AM Radio ; > >> International Radio Club of America ; TVFM AMDX > >> ; Radio Broadcasting > >> ; National Radio Club > >> ; Medium Wave ; Jennifer Sorochin > >> ; Jennifer Sorochin > >> ; Jennifer Sorochin > >> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 9:22:59 PM > >> Subject: [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > >> > >> > >> > >> Here's a question for those of you who are a lot smarter than I > >>am...I'm watching Apollo 13 during the commercial breaks tonight while the > >>ALA - LSU game is on. They show a couple of scenes in the movie where Jim > >>Lovell's wife is listening to the transmissions from the spacecraft. It's a > >>grey speaker, with a NASA logo on it, but it never appears to be attached > >>to a radio. Anybody know anything about this? Did the families have access > >>to the communications? It puzzles me every time I see it. > >> > >> > >> KI4SYC > >> > >> Ira Elbert New, III > >> Watkinsville, Georgia > >> Proudly Serving You Since 1964. > >> ___ > >> The NRC AM mailing list > >> Questions? ow...@nrcdxas.org > >> Pre-orders for the 33rd AM Radio Log > >> Now being accepted! Shipping 8/27/2012 > >> FM Atlas 21st Edition Close Out Prices! > >> Order both at http://www.nrcdxas.org > >> ___ > >> IRCA mailing list > >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >> > >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mail
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
Thanks. I was referring to the moon landings. I was ten for the Apollo Soyuz Mission. Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:14:22 -0700 > From: drummer1965...@yahoo.com > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13 > > Hate to make you feel older than you are, Ira, but I know you were older than > six. The last mission in the Apollo program was Apollo 18, which docked with > Soyuz in the summer of 1975. I mention that because it's the ONLY Apollo > mission that I remember watching on TV back when it was happening. :) > > 73, > Rick Dau (not quite older than dirt yet) > South Omaha, Nebraska > > > > From: Ira Elbert New III > To: HardCore DX > Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > > > Thanks. I was only six when the Apollo Program came to a close. I didn't > know about the material being broadcast, but I do have fun reading over the > transcripts from time-to-time. I don't know if the scenes were added for > dramatic purposes or not, but it has always puzzled me whenever I see it. I > meant to ask a long time ago and seeing it tonight on BRAVO made me think > about asking. I'll ask Ron Howard the next time I see him. :) > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 21:37:13 -0500 > > From: n...@mchsi.com > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > > > > IRCA, > > > > Several NASA installations broadcast the audio from manned space flights > > from their facilities, on a frequency that most scanners could hear. > > And others, like NASA Ames in the San Francisco Bay Area used to send it > > to a one of the local Ham Radio repeaters. > > > > I drove down to Edward AFB to watch STS-4 land and took a scanner with > > me. The Air Force was rebroadcasting both sides of the conversations > > with the shuttle on a couple of different frequencies. > > > > I guess what I am trying to say is that I can think of a couple of ways > > she could have been hearing the audio. Now whether or not that really > > happened, or was it put in the movie for added drama? I don't know. > > > > Steve NG0G > > > > On 11/3/12 10:00 PM, Ira Elbert New III wrote: > > > > > > I see the shape of the speaker now. However, the questions still remains, > > > where's the radio? How did Marilyn Lovell have access to the > > > communications between the crew and the ground? Oh...and they moved the > > > speaker to several places during the movie. Kinda' bugs me and I hope > > > someone has an answer. > > > > > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:53:02 -0700 > > >> From: ve2...@yahoo.com > > >> To: a...@nrcdxas.org; irca@hard-core-dx.com; a...@am-dx.com; > > >> ircamem...@ircaonline.org; a...@lists.wtfda.info; > > >> radiobroadcast...@yahoogroups.com; dxl...@mwcircle.org; > > >> jennifer_soroc...@cabo.wnyric.org; lostey2...@yahoo.com; > > >> jennifersoroc...@hotmail.com > > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > > >> > > >> I was talking to someone just the other day about that very scene in the > > >> movie. The speaker you see is actually the external speaker for the old > > >> Radio Shack/Realistic DX-160. I had one, so I recognized it > > >> immediately. All they did was stick a NASA sticker on the front of it! > > >> Another Hollywood blunder. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Sheldon Harvey > > >> Radio H.F. - Canada`s specialist in radio communications > > >> http://www.radiohf.ca > > >> > > >> Editor & Publisher, Radio HF Internet Newsletter > > >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hfnewsletter > > >> > > >> Enjoy birds and birdwatching? > > >> http://www.birdprotectionquebec.org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> From: Ira Elbert New III > > >> To: HardCore DX ; AM Radio ; > > >> International Radio Club of America ; TVFM > > >> AMDX ; Radio Broadcasting > > >> ; National Radio Club > > >> ; Medium Wave ; Jennifer Sorochin > &
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
Ira, I work at NASA/Johnson Space Center. Back when I was in the Mission Ops Directorate (MOD), the NASA Branch Chiefs had a direct feed of the prime Space-to-Ground link (SG1, I think) from the Mission Control Center (MCC) to their offices. That way they could listen to real-time audio during Shuttle missions. If I recall correctly, it was a coax cable from a wall plate to a grey box on the cabinet behind their desk. The box had a volume control knob on the side. The speakers looked like they had been around from the Apollo, maybe even Gemini days. Maybe the families of the Apollo 13 astronauts were given similar audio access over twisted pair cable via the phone lines to their homes in Nassau Bay, which is right across the road (NASA Road1) from NASA/JSC?? 73, Steve Ponder, N5WBI -- Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Ira Elbert New III wrote: > > Here's a question for those of you who are a lot smarter than I am...I'm > watching Apollo 13 during the commercial breaks tonight while the ALA - LSU > game is on. They show a couple of scenes in the movie where Jim Lovell's wife > is listening to the transmissions from the spacecraft. It's a grey speaker, > with a NASA logo on it, but it never appears to be attached to a radio. > Anybody know anything about this? Did the families have access to the > communications? It puzzles me every time I see it. > KI4SYC > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
OK, now I feel old. I remember Gemini launches and spacewalks not to mention staying up late to watch Armstrong step off the ladder and blow his line. Tim Hills Sioux Falls, SD On 11/3/2012 22:14, Rick Dau wrote: Hate to make you feel older than you are, Ira, but I know you were older than six. The last mission in the Apollo program was Apollo 18, which docked with Soyuz in the summer of 1975. I mention that because it's the ONLY Apollo mission that I remember watching on TV back when it was happening. :) 73, Rick Dau (not quite older than dirt yet) South Omaha, Nebraska From: Ira Elbert New III To: HardCore DX Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 Thanks. I was only six when the Apollo Program came to a close. I didn't know about the material being broadcast, but I do have fun reading over the transcripts from time-to-time. I don't know if the scenes were added for dramatic purposes or not, but it has always puzzled me whenever I see it. I meant to ask a long time ago and seeing it tonight on BRAVO made me think about asking. I'll ask Ron Howard the next time I see him. :) Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
I would like to think my Parents had me in front of the TV to watch Armstrong and Aldrin, but I never asked them. I remember watching a daytime Apollo launch at school when they wheeled in a TV on a rolling cart. Today, we can just show things from a computer or television feed on a screen in our classrooms. I also remember staying home from school to watch the first launch of the Space Shuttle. I have it on an audio cassette somewhere. We were in Cape Canaveral for the last Shuttle launch and I have that on a video tape that I shot. A scanner beneath the camera provides background audio with a feed from Mission Control. Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:30:37 -0600 > From: thi...@sio.midco.net > To: drummer1965...@yahoo.com; irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13 > > OK, now I feel old. > > I remember Gemini launches and spacewalks not to mention staying up late > to watch Armstrong step off the ladder and blow his line. > > Tim Hills > Sioux Falls, SD > > On 11/3/2012 22:14, Rick Dau wrote: > > Hate to make you feel older than you are, Ira, but I know you were older > > than six. The last mission in the Apollo program was Apollo 18, which > > docked with Soyuz in the summer of 1975. I mention that because it's the > > ONLY Apollo mission that I remember watching on TV back when it was > > happening. :) > > > > 73, > > Rick Dau (not quite older than dirt yet) > > South Omaha, Nebraska > > > > > > > > From: Ira Elbert New III > > To: HardCore DX > > Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] Apollo 13 > > > > > > Thanks. I was only six when the Apollo Program came to a close. I > > didn't know about the material being broadcast, but I do have fun reading > > over the transcripts from time-to-time. I don't know if the scenes were > > added for dramatic purposes or not, but it has always puzzled me whenever I > > see it. I meant to ask a long time ago and seeing it tonight on BRAVO made > > me think about asking. I'll ask Ron Howard the next time I see him. :) > > > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13
Thats sounds possible. I'll ask Jim Lovell the next time I see him. ;) I would love to have the pleasure of meeting you some day. I'm sure you have some great stories and memories to pass along. Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > From: stephen_pon...@sbcglobal.net > Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 23:02:18 -0500 > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Apollo 13 > > Ira, > > I work at NASA/Johnson Space Center. Back when I was in the Mission Ops > Directorate (MOD), the NASA Branch Chiefs had a direct feed of the prime > Space-to-Ground link (SG1, I think) from the Mission Control Center (MCC) to > their offices. That way they could listen to real-time audio during Shuttle > missions. > > If I recall correctly, it was a coax cable from a wall plate to a grey box on > the cabinet behind their desk. The box had a volume control knob on the side. > The speakers looked like they had been around from the Apollo, maybe even > Gemini days. > > Maybe the families of the Apollo 13 astronauts were given similar audio > access over twisted pair cable via the phone lines to their homes in Nassau > Bay, which is right across the road (NASA Road1) from NASA/JSC?? > > 73, > > Steve Ponder, N5WBI > -- > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Ira Elbert New III wrote: > > > > > Here's a question for those of you who are a lot smarter than I > > am...I'm watching Apollo 13 during the commercial breaks tonight while the > > ALA - LSU game is on. They show a couple of scenes in the movie where Jim > > Lovell's wife is listening to the transmissions from the spacecraft. It's a > > grey speaker, with a NASA logo on it, but it never appears to be attached > > to a radio. Anybody know anything about this? Did the families have access > > to the communications? It puzzles me every time I see it. > > KI4SYC > > > > Ira Elbert New, IIIWatkinsville, GeorgiaProudly Serving You Since 1964. > > > > ___ > > IRCA mailing list > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original > contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its > editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com