Re: [IRCA] DX dead spots

2017-03-16 Thread Glenn Hauser via IRCA
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png

Had I been live during this thread, I too would have said Oklahoma`s red dirt 
with iron oxide can`t be the cause, cf the Iron range of Michigan.

I would hypothesize that the Ogallala Aquifer (what`s left of it) has something 
to do with the large 30 G.C. area in TX-OK-KS-NE. Not a 100% match of course, 
but quite a bit of overlap:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

How fortunate we are here in the great center, since so much of the USA is way 
lower in GC.

WNAX 570 Yankton SD is here on groundwave any day; only problem KLIF Dallas 
also 570. Also: KWMT 540 Fort Dodge IA vs another Metroplex station. 550 has 
signs of Midland TX and 580 signs of Lubbock TX under the Kansans. 670 KLTT 
Denver is barely audible on daytime groundwave, and sometimes WSCR Chicago tho 
by then I`m not certain it`s GW rather than daytime skywave, or a mixture with 
sporadic E affecting MW.

73, Glenn Hauser, Enid
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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-16 Thread Pete Taylor
A few years back, I left Brainerd, MN and drove counter-clockwise through North 
Dakota and then South Dakota toward Mpls. and couldn’t believe how well 
KFGO-790 got out. Years before that, while driving in Kansas, I remember 
WNAX-570 bangin’ in pretty well. Nice ground systems indeed...
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HQ180 & ICF2010
Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops
DX398, SRF-59 & M37V
Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380






> On Mar 15, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Theo  wrote:
> 
> I recall while heading to the 2011 convention in Colorado Springs being more 
> than mildly astounded at the signal put out by KOAL/750 in Price, UT.  I'd 
> stayed overnight in Green River, and while driving the following day through 
> the extended badlands around Moab and on to Grand Junction, CO, it just kept 
> on thumping in on a stock Toyota rx.
> 
> I still have to thank Richard for being my chauffeur around The Springs!  I 
> wasn't much of a navigator.
> 
> Theo
> 
> On 3/15/2017 4:29 PM, Mike Sanburn wrote:
>> I have visited cities like St. George UT and Sedona AZ and it is brick red 
>> wherever you look.  For DXing maybe redder means better???
>> 
>> 
>> ms
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: IRCA  on behalf of Richard Allen 
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:44 PM
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots
>> 
>> I’m fortunate enough to live in an area of excellent ground conductivity.  
>> Ground wave DX into surrounding states is very good at mid-day.  My guess is 
>> it has something to do with the Port Silt Loam (Red Dirt) that cover much of 
>> Oklahoma.  It’s a significant enough feature of the region to have been 
>> named the official state soil.
>> 
>> Richard Allen,
>> near Perry OK USA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Bob Coomler via IRCA
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My undergraduate degree is in Soil Science.  Hmmm.  It might be time to dust 
off the text books!
Bob Coomler W7SWLTucson, AZ

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I forgot to mention the reddish colour of the soil is caused by a high iron 
content.  Maybe that contributes to the good conductivity.

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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
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Of course salt water beats any over-land conductivity.  The Atlantic City 
graveyard channels are easy copy by day here at 275 miles.

The boundary between very poor sandy soil in one direction and seawater in the 
opposite direction produces "crazy-directional" DX even with non-directional 
whip antennas.

Multiply that effect with a directional antenna (DKAZ, Beverage, etc.) pointed 
seaward and you get the wild long-haul loggings associated with DXpedition 
sites such as Grayland (WA), Rockport (MA), Cappahayden (NL), etc.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA

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Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Exactly, Billy. 30 is top of the line. See that 30 area in northwest Iowa along 
the Minnesota border? That's the "Okoboji" area of Iowa, a popular vacation 
destination from Memorial Day to Labor Day. I used to live in that area. The DX 
on both AM and FM up there was amazing, easily the best QTH for DXing in which 
I've ever resided. Of course, it didn't hurt that among my 3 closest AM 
stations, KILR-1070 (250 watts) and KKOJ-1190 (5000 watts) were both daytimers, 
and KICD-1240 (1000 watts, of course) was 20 miles to the south. I recently hit 
1000 AM stations logged here in South Omaha, taking nearly 6 1/2 years to do 
so. Had I stayed up in Okoboji instead of moving away in July 1996, it probably 
would've taken me about 1/4 as long -- if that -- to reach 1000.

73,
Rick Dau

South Omaha, Nebraska EN21af
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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Rick Dau
It has to be something else, Richard, because iron in the soil is detrimental 
to an AM station's ability to be heard at a great distance.  The soil in the 
Upper Peninsula of Michigan on over to the Arrowhead region of northwest 
Minnesota is absolutely loaded with iron, and the AMs in that area just don't 
get out well at all.  It's especially noticeable in the daytime.



73,

Rick Dau

South Omaha, Nebraska  EN21af


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I forgot to mention the reddish colour of the soil is caused by a high iron 
content.  Maybe that contributes to the good conductivity.

Richard Allen.

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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Richard N Allen
I forgot to mention the reddish colour of the soil is caused by a high iron 
content.  Maybe that contributes to the good conductivity.

Richard Allen.

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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Theo
I recall while heading to the 2011 convention in Colorado Springs being 
more than mildly astounded at the signal put out by KOAL/750 in Price, 
UT.  I'd stayed overnight in Green River, and while driving the 
following day through the extended badlands around Moab and on to Grand 
Junction, CO, it just kept on thumping in on a stock Toyota rx.


I still have to thank Richard for being my chauffeur around The 
Springs!  I wasn't much of a navigator.


Theo

On 3/15/2017 4:29 PM, Mike Sanburn wrote:

I have visited cities like St. George UT and Sedona AZ and it is brick red 
wherever you look.  For DXing maybe redder means better???


ms



From: IRCA  on behalf of Richard Allen 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I’m fortunate enough to live in an area of excellent ground conductivity.  
Ground wave DX into surrounding states is very good at mid-day.  My guess is it 
has something to do with the Port Silt Loam (Red Dirt) that cover much of 
Oklahoma.  It’s a significant enough feature of the region to have been named 
the official state soil.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.





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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Rick Dau
Exactly, Billy.  30 is top of the line.  See that 30 area in northwest Iowa 
along the Minnesota border?  That's the "Okoboji" area of Iowa, a popular 
vacation destination from Memorial Day to Labor Day.  I used to live in that 
area.  The DX on both AM and FM up there was amazing, easily the best QTH for 
DXing in which I've ever resided.  Of course, it didn't hurt that among my 3 
closest AM stations, KILR-1070 (250 watts) and KKOJ-1190 (5000 watts) were both 
daytimers, and KICD-1240 (1000 watts, of course) was 20 miles to the south.  I 
recently hit 1000 AM stations logged here in South Omaha, taking nearly 6 1/2 
years to do so.  Had I stayed up in Okoboji instead of moving away in July 
1996, it probably would've taken me about 1/4 as long -- if that -- to reach 
1000.



73,

Rick Dau

South Omaha, Nebraska  EN21af


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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:21 PM
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Roger the map.  I presume the lower the value,  the worse the conductivity 
unless I missed something.
Tnx bb

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Mike, here is a ground conductivity map.

Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png


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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
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Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature seems 
to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even postulated 
that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has been written on 
these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in the 
chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although unexplored 
factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?

Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp
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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Mike Sanburn
I have visited cities like St. George UT and Sedona AZ and it is brick red 
wherever you look.  For DXing maybe redder means better???


ms



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I’m fortunate enough to live in an area of excellent ground conductivity.  
Ground wave DX into surrounding states is very good at mid-day.  My guess is it 
has something to do with the Port Silt Loam (Red Dirt) that cover much of 
Oklahoma.  It’s a significant enough feature of the region to have been named 
the official state soil.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.


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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread billy brooks
Roger the map.  I presume the lower the value,  the worse the conductivity 
unless I missed something.
Tnx bb

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Mike, here is a ground conductivity map.

Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png




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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



From: IRCA  on behalf of billy brooks 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature seems 
to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even postulated 
that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has been written on 
these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in the 
chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although unexplored 
factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?



Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Richard Allen
I’m fortunate enough to live in an area of excellent ground conductivity.  
Ground wave DX into surrounding states is very good at mid-day.  My guess is it 
has something to do with the Port Silt Loam (Red Dirt) that cover much of 
Oklahoma.  It’s a significant enough feature of the region to have been named 
the official state soil.

Richard Allen,
near Perry OK USA.


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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Russ Edmunds
Was looking on the site for this as I'd thought it used to be there


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


From: IRCA  on behalf of Mike Sanburn 

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Thanks, looks like I'm in a 15---about the middle.   ms



From: IRCA  on behalf of Bill Block 

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Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Mike, here is a ground conductivity map.

Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png




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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature
seems to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it
on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even
postulated that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has
been written on these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in
the chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although
unexplored factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?



Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp



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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Mike Sanburn
Thanks, looks like I'm in a 15---about the middle.   ms



From: IRCA  on behalf of Bill Block 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:00 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Mike, here is a ground conductivity map.

Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png




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From: "Mike Sanburn" 
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



From: IRCA  on behalf of billy brooks 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature
seems to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it
on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even
postulated that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has
been written on these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in
the chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although
unexplored factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?



Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp



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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Bill Block
Mike, here is a ground conductivity map.

Bill Block
Prescott Valley, AZ

 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Effective_Ground_Conductivity_Map.png




- Original Message -
From: "Mike Sanburn" 
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 12:21:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



From: IRCA  on behalf of billy brooks 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature
seems to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it
on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even
postulated that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has
been written on these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in
the chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although
unexplored factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?



Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp



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Re: [IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread Mike Sanburn
I think it might be a combination of any or all of the factors that you 
mentioned. You seem to be using good quality equipment for sure. There are 
times when there have been solar storms and the band is just a loud buzz so 
even locals sound horrible. I recall seeing a map once that showed the best and 
worst places as far as ground conductivity in North America goes. I would bet 
that can be found using Google.


73  Mike



From: IRCA  on behalf of billy brooks 

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:37 AM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: [IRCA] dx dead spots

Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature
seems to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it
on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even
postulated that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has
been written on these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in
the chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although
unexplored factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?



Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp



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[IRCA] dx dead spots

2017-03-15 Thread billy brooks
Hi all…..   a topic that has always confounded me is the subject of
“dx deadspots”.  Literally geographic areas where nothing of a dx nature
seems to penetrate.  I’ve alluded to this in previous threads and blamed it
on

Antennas, sunspots, noise…… you know the usual suspects.  I’ve even
postulated that poor soil conductivity is a contributor.  While much has
been written on these topics (other than soils to my knowledge)  I wonder

If any of you have these same frustrations.  Naturally I leave “ass time in
the chair”  as the last factor.  We all know what that means when it comes
to good dx.   I’ll even go as far to express that having top notch gear

Is useless if you don’t use it! nevertheless, the perception does exist
that  “location,location,blah,blah”  may be a significant although
unexplored factor plagueing all of us.

Anyone else experience these blasé feelings?

 

Bill brooks ,  Waynesburg,pa

Drake r8a   wellbrookala1530lnp 



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