Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
Les, in the fall you should look for High School football. There was a list a few years ago, maybe on ABDX. Might have been Tim Hall who put it together. That list will give you some possible Friday night targets in the fall. I've heard a few of them. Can't help much since I'm on the west coast and reception is different here. Know the station formats on all the frequencies and scan them nightly looking for something different that might be a station running day power at night. I hear a few new stations each year with this method. And watch the email lists for posts by others on stations running day power at night. Martin Foltz Mission Viejo CA > Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:54:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: neilkaz > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me > About the Good Ole Days ] > Message-ID: > <1038834.1432392894486.javamail.r...@wamui-haziran.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'm tied up this weekend but will be adding a couple replies to this thread. > All I'll say now is to use modern tech for best results. > > 1) SDR to record the entire band (or a good chunk of it) > > 2) You want to receive to the west, so use an antenna system that nulls the > east. > > 3) Wait for fall. Trying SSS to the west anytime in the summer prior to late > Aug isn't likely to get you much difficult. > > 4) You don't need GeoClock, but have the sunset grid maps is certainly useful > as they'll tell you the boundaries between the 15 minute sunset power switch > times. > > 73 KAZ ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
Mark, Wow--I had never seen the radio-timetraveler.blogspot.com site until today. How did I miss it!! Can't wait to download these, and start working out a game plan. Since you obviously know a lot more about Google Earth than I, I can't help but wonder if it's possible to overlay real-time grayline maps with your maps for antenna patterns, ground conductivity, etc? That would be like Geoclock on steroids! Mark---everyone in the hobby should be grateful for the effort you've put into this. Yeoman's work to be sure! -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector On 5/23/2015 10:49 AM, Mark Durenberger Mobile wrote: Les, two great tools: http://www.topazdesigns.com/ambc/ Arguably the most useful and likely to be the most up-to-date reference, this site will give you local sunset/sunrise times for stations and you'll also find several other ways to index desired targets as well as to help you with indecipherable IDs. http://radio-timetraveller.blogspot.com/ Download the zip files showing target stations by frequency for both day and night operation. This is very useful when you're listening to that difficult ID and can't quite make out all the call-letters. Having them all on a map in front of you is very useful. I believe I sent you the logs from the recent D-Kaz broadside operation. Good hunting! Mark Durenberger On The Road Again e-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
Les, two great tools: http://www.topazdesigns.com/ambc/ Arguably the most useful and likely to be the most up-to-date reference, this site will give you local sunset/sunrise times for stations and you'll also find several other ways to index desired targets as well as to help you with indecipherable IDs. http://radio-timetraveller.blogspot.com/ Download the zip files showing target stations by frequency for both day and night operation. This is very useful when you're listening to that difficult ID and can't quite make out all the call-letters. Having them all on a map in front of you is very useful. I believe I sent you the logs from the recent D-Kaz broadside operation. Good hunting! Mark Durenberger On The Road Again -Original Message- From: Les Rayburn Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:25 AM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ] Nick, Kaz has briefly chimed in---but I'll eagerly await his more detailed replies. One thing that would be helpful would be some target stations that *SHOULD* be possible for me to log at certain times of the year on SS skip. For some reason, my brain just refuses to grasp the concepts involved. Maybe someone could provide a "Top Ten" lists of Western SS targets? 73, Les N1LF On 5/23/2015 9:47 AM, Nick Hall-Patch wrote: Neil Kazaross gave a good talk on the subject of sunset skip at the Minneapolis convention Les, and used many illustrations of western stations heard in his part of the world. I'd certainly ask him. best wishes, Nick At 00:46 23-05-15, you wrote: With apologies to the Judds for their hit song. My primary interest in AM DXing is logging domestic stations in the Western part of the U.S. Probably because i enjoy traveling in that scenery, and the people are wonderful. No matter the reason, any station with a "K" call is a thrill for me to log. I started my DXing career in the late 1990's, right about the time that Total Recorder software made automated monitoring possible. That fit well with my busy lifestyle, so it's continued to dominate my efforts since. Not spending much "live" time at the dials, I've never appreciated the opportunities for Sunrise and Sunset (SR/SS) DXing to it's full extent. One fond memory is setting at a state park with a portable receiver at sunset, waiting for a daytime station in the East to sign off, revealing a Nebraska station loud and clear giving farm reports underneath. I don't recall the call or the frequency, but it's in my log. Fast forward to 2015. I'm not eager to add to my totals for Western stations. I'd like to ask other DX'er what strategies, equipment, antennas, etc they use when looking for new ones out West. I've asked this question before, and usually receive a lot of stories about "how it used to be" before the rules changes, when the clear channels dominated, etc. Many articles written about SR and SS DXing also either focus on the historical aspect, or assume that everyone reading knows how it used to be, and only talk about how bad it is now. So--while I appreciate the history--I'm more interested in putting new ones in the log today. Any DX'ers have suggestions on how best to do that now in 2015? Knowledge is always appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com
Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
Nick, Kaz has briefly chimed in---but I'll eagerly await his more detailed replies. One thing that would be helpful would be some target stations that *SHOULD* be possible for me to log at certain times of the year on SS skip. For some reason, my brain just refuses to grasp the concepts involved. Maybe someone could provide a "Top Ten" lists of Western SS targets? 73, Les N1LF On 5/23/2015 9:47 AM, Nick Hall-Patch wrote: Neil Kazaross gave a good talk on the subject of sunset skip at the Minneapolis convention Les, and used many illustrations of western stations heard in his part of the world. I'd certainly ask him. best wishes, Nick At 00:46 23-05-15, you wrote: With apologies to the Judds for their hit song. My primary interest in AM DXing is logging domestic stations in the Western part of the U.S. Probably because i enjoy traveling in that scenery, and the people are wonderful. No matter the reason, any station with a "K" call is a thrill for me to log. I started my DXing career in the late 1990's, right about the time that Total Recorder software made automated monitoring possible. That fit well with my busy lifestyle, so it's continued to dominate my efforts since. Not spending much "live" time at the dials, I've never appreciated the opportunities for Sunrise and Sunset (SR/SS) DXing to it's full extent. One fond memory is setting at a state park with a portable receiver at sunset, waiting for a daytime station in the East to sign off, revealing a Nebraska station loud and clear giving farm reports underneath. I don't recall the call or the frequency, but it's in my log. Fast forward to 2015. I'm not eager to add to my totals for Western stations. I'd like to ask other DX'er what strategies, equipment, antennas, etc they use when looking for new ones out West. I've asked this question before, and usually receive a lot of stories about "how it used to be" before the rules changes, when the clear channels dominated, etc. Many articles written about SR and SS DXing also either focus on the historical aspect, or assume that everyone reading knows how it used to be, and only talk about how bad it is now. So--while I appreciate the history--I'm more interested in putting new ones in the log today. Any DX'ers have suggestions on how best to do that now in 2015? Knowledge is always appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
I'm tied up this weekend but will be adding a couple replies to this thread. All I'll say now is to use modern tech for best results. 1) SDR to record the entire band (or a good chunk of it) 2) You want to receive to the west, so use an antenna system that nulls the east. 3) Wait for fall. Trying SSS to the west anytime in the summer prior to late Aug isn't likely to get you much difficult. 4) You don't need GeoClock, but have the sunset grid maps is certainly useful as they'll tell you the boundaries between the 15 minute sunset power switch times. 73 KAZ -Original Message- >From: Nick Hall-Patch >Sent: May 23, 2015 9:47 AM >To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > >Subject: Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the >Good Ole Days ] > >Neil Kazaross gave a good talk on the subject of sunset skip at the >Minneapolis convention Les, and used many illustrations of western >stations heard in his part of the world. I'd certainly ask him. > >best wishes, > >Nick > >At 00:46 23-05-15, you wrote: >>With apologies to the Judds for their hit song. >> >>My primary interest in AM DXing is logging domestic stations in the >>Western part of the U.S. Probably because i enjoy traveling in that >>scenery, and the people are wonderful. No matter the reason, any >>station with a "K" call is a thrill for me to log. >> >>I started my DXing career in the late 1990's, right about the time >>that Total Recorder software made automated monitoring possible. >>That fit well with my busy lifestyle, so it's continued to dominate >>my efforts since. Not spending much "live" time at the dials, I've >>never appreciated the opportunities for Sunrise and Sunset (SR/SS) >>DXing to it's full extent. >> >>One fond memory is setting at a state park with a portable receiver >>at sunset, waiting for a daytime station in the East to sign off, >>revealing a Nebraska station loud and clear giving farm reports >>underneath. I don't recall the call or the frequency, but it's in my log. >> >>Fast forward to 2015. I'm not eager to add to my totals for Western >>stations. I'd like to ask other DX'er what strategies, equipment, >>antennas, etc they use when looking for new ones out West. >> >>I've asked this question before, and usually receive a lot of >>stories about "how it used to be" before the rules changes, when the >>clear channels dominated, etc. Many articles written about SR and SS >>DXing also either focus on the historical aspect, or assume that >>everyone reading knows how it used to be, and only talk about how >>bad it is now. >> >>So--while I appreciate the history--I'm more interested in putting >>new ones in the log today. Any DX'ers have suggestions on how best >>to do that now in 2015? >> >>Knowledge is always appreciated. Thanks in advance. >> >> >>-- >>73, >> >> >>Les Rayburn, N1LF >>Maylene, AL >>EM63 >> >>Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle >>Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA >> >>Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, >>Clifton Lab Active Whip, >>Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector >> >>___ >>IRCA mailing list >>IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >>http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca >> >>Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the >>original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of >>the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers >> >>For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org >> >>To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > >___ >IRCA mailing list >IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original >contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its >editors, publishing staff, or officers > >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > >To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
Neil Kazaross gave a good talk on the subject of sunset skip at the Minneapolis convention Les, and used many illustrations of western stations heard in his part of the world. I'd certainly ask him. best wishes, Nick At 00:46 23-05-15, you wrote: With apologies to the Judds for their hit song. My primary interest in AM DXing is logging domestic stations in the Western part of the U.S. Probably because i enjoy traveling in that scenery, and the people are wonderful. No matter the reason, any station with a "K" call is a thrill for me to log. I started my DXing career in the late 1990's, right about the time that Total Recorder software made automated monitoring possible. That fit well with my busy lifestyle, so it's continued to dominate my efforts since. Not spending much "live" time at the dials, I've never appreciated the opportunities for Sunrise and Sunset (SR/SS) DXing to it's full extent. One fond memory is setting at a state park with a portable receiver at sunset, waiting for a daytime station in the East to sign off, revealing a Nebraska station loud and clear giving farm reports underneath. I don't recall the call or the frequency, but it's in my log. Fast forward to 2015. I'm not eager to add to my totals for Western stations. I'd like to ask other DX'er what strategies, equipment, antennas, etc they use when looking for new ones out West. I've asked this question before, and usually receive a lot of stories about "how it used to be" before the rules changes, when the clear channels dominated, etc. Many articles written about SR and SS DXing also either focus on the historical aspect, or assume that everyone reading knows how it used to be, and only talk about how bad it is now. So--while I appreciate the history--I'm more interested in putting new ones in the log today. Any DX'ers have suggestions on how best to do that now in 2015? Knowledge is always appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] DXing the Western US [ Grandpa, DON'T Tell Me About the Good Ole Days ]
With apologies to the Judds for their hit song. My primary interest in AM DXing is logging domestic stations in the Western part of the U.S. Probably because i enjoy traveling in that scenery, and the people are wonderful. No matter the reason, any station with a "K" call is a thrill for me to log. I started my DXing career in the late 1990's, right about the time that Total Recorder software made automated monitoring possible. That fit well with my busy lifestyle, so it's continued to dominate my efforts since. Not spending much "live" time at the dials, I've never appreciated the opportunities for Sunrise and Sunset (SR/SS) DXing to it's full extent. One fond memory is setting at a state park with a portable receiver at sunset, waiting for a daytime station in the East to sign off, revealing a Nebraska station loud and clear giving farm reports underneath. I don't recall the call or the frequency, but it's in my log. Fast forward to 2015. I'm not eager to add to my totals for Western stations. I'd like to ask other DX'er what strategies, equipment, antennas, etc they use when looking for new ones out West. I've asked this question before, and usually receive a lot of stories about "how it used to be" before the rules changes, when the clear channels dominated, etc. Many articles written about SR and SS DXing also either focus on the historical aspect, or assume that everyone reading knows how it used to be, and only talk about how bad it is now. So--while I appreciate the history--I'm more interested in putting new ones in the log today. Any DX'ers have suggestions on how best to do that now in 2015? Knowledge is always appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- 73, Les Rayburn, N1LF Maylene, AL EM63 Member NRC, IRCA, & Medium Wave DX Circle Former CPC Chairman for NRC/IRCA Elad FDM-S2 SDR, SDR-IQ,Funcube Pro, Wellbrooke ALA-1530+ loop, Clifton Lab Active Whip, Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Palstar MW Pre-Selector ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
