Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
Thanks Walt. Of all the antennas I have used here, it seems the beverage does the best on TA's so far. I just have not had any luck with other antennas like big loops, EWEs and the like. If that neighbor ever moves, I will then put back 700-800 feet of wire going North. But I keep thinking of other antennas including the ALA. Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
At 02:00 PM 1/24/2009, you wrote: >P.S. > >Walt, > >I think, there might also be an issue with the angle I get the TA's with >that hill to the NE. Some antennas like the beverage works well, yet the >EWE's don't. But that is just a guess. As I have heard more TA activity >on beverages than other antennas here. > >Patrick Understand your desire to stick with the tried and true. The nice thing about the ALA, though, is that it takes very little space, and you can increase gain (but perhaps noise too) with 2 or 3 loops of wire. In my original configuration, I had it on the ground with a loop perhaps 10 feet circumference only with 2 or 3 loops and it still performed very well on LW. I now have a single loop up around 20' off the ground and about 40' around. Something to think about..Walt. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
At 01:30 PM 1/24/2009, you wrote: >>Walt sez... There are a lot of ALA 100s in Victoriahighest per capita in >>the world ;-) ..Walt. > >I have 3 of them... more than any of you! Ha-ha-ha he-he-he ho-ho-ho... >And little to show for it! :-) >One day a postage stamp of land to actually use them properly on. Colin , I'm with Nick. I have 4.1 here, 1 in Masset, and 2 for the MW phased array!..Walt. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
P.S. Walt, I think, there might also be an issue with the angle I get the TA's with that hill to the NE. Some antennas like the beverage works well, yet the EWE's don't. But that is just a guess. As I have heard more TA activity on beverages than other antennas here. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
Walt, I talked to John about the Wellbrook loops at Grayland and looked at them. I really don't have any room to set one to the NE. The only antenna I have to the NE is the SW EWE and I have thought of the NE EWE, but the return coax will be sitting under 3-4 feet of water in the Winter. I have plenty of room in "certain" directions, but not always the direction I want. :-) The Wellbrook would also have to be pointed to the NE/SW correct, as would a EWE? So I am in the same boat. I could put a 700' beverage to the North again (maybe), with 150 feet of buried coax, but I have that neighbor to the West of me with the light dimmers, so that is another issue in running any antennas over towards that house. They have been threatening to move for years and are elderly, so maybe in time they will move. The previous person there had no noisy lights. I found no TA LW activity on any of the other antennas period! Just the Eastern beverage brought them in. If it wasn't was the noise level, many would have been excellent. They were S9 or better in many cases, but the buzzy noise level is an issue too. There seem to be an issue with the EWEs, vertical, etc on TA's. I get them but not as good as I wished. The EWEs are excellent on TPs though. I guess I am trying to have my DX Cake and eat it too. hi. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
>Walt sez... There are a lot of ALA 100s in Victoriahighest per capita in >the world ;-) ..Walt. I have 3 of them... more than any of you! Ha-ha-ha he-he-he ho-ho-ho... And little to show for it! :-) One day a postage stamp of land to actually use them properly on. Kind of like owning a helicopter and never being able to fly it... "yea.. I have a helicopter on my apartment balcony... yea... a Bell Jet-ranger never powered it up mind you neighbors and all... and the racket but I could if I wanted to!" -- - Colin Newell - Editor - CoffeeCrew DOT Com --- Victoria, British Columbia - Radio VA7WWV Editor - DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com -- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
Patrick, I would highly recommend the Wellbrook ALA 100 series of magnetic loops. You have the space. Erecting one in about a 40 to 60' diameter and oriented to Europe would enhance your LW (and even the bottom of the MW band) enormously. I have the big Conti loops at my place, but the ALA outperforms them by a long shot up to and including 531 kHz. It's somewhat pricey, but well worth it. There are a lot of ALA 100s in Victoriahighest per capita in the world ;-) ..Walt. At 12:44 PM 1/24/2009, you wrote: >Yes, TA activity on LW was good. I wish I did not have the noise level >there though on LW, but it could be worse. I did find out that the 1500' >Eastern beverage has a pretty decent lobe for TAs, where it doesn't work >on MW TAs. Apparently the wire is too long aimed at 75 degrees to work >on MW TA's. It was suggested a shorter wire running next to the beverage >going East, so that might be an option, if a shorter wire would not >affect the directivity of the 1500 footer. I sure don't want to mess up >the directivity of the beverage for great domestic DX. I'll have to >fiqure out what percentage 150-300 khz matches to 1500 feet and maybe >use that same method on the length of a wire next to the beverage for MW >TA use. That is a thought, since the beverage does do a nice job with >TA's. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea? > >73, > >Patrick > >___ >IRCA mailing list >IRCA@hard-core-dx.com >http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > >Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original >contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its >editors, publishing staff, or officers > >For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > >To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1912 - Release Date: 1/23/2009 >6:54 PM ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Friday night TA/ Beverage antenna
Yes, TA activity on LW was good. I wish I did not have the noise level there though on LW, but it could be worse. I did find out that the 1500' Eastern beverage has a pretty decent lobe for TAs, where it doesn't work on MW TAs. Apparently the wire is too long aimed at 75 degrees to work on MW TA's. It was suggested a shorter wire running next to the beverage going East, so that might be an option, if a shorter wire would not affect the directivity of the 1500 footer. I sure don't want to mess up the directivity of the beverage for great domestic DX. I'll have to fiqure out what percentage 150-300 khz matches to 1500 feet and maybe use that same method on the length of a wire next to the beverage for MW TA use. That is a thought, since the beverage does do a nice job with TA's. Does anyone have any thoughts on that idea? 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
