Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
I have DirecTV, and they've been swapping out the old 18 round dishes with a new one that is just a hair under 1 meter wide. It's to pick up the new birds that are carrying locals and high-def programming. -Original Message- From: irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:32 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO That satellite dish on the same roof is probably picking up the programming stream. That's not a typical 18 DISH/DirecTV setup. --Tom? K7WV / Congratulations! This has been an exciting and interesting chase. I have been watching with great interest. One of my neighbors replaced his 1 year old standard 18 dish with this exact same dish a couple months ago. I have no idea what the difference is. Possibly something to do with the digital vs analog conversion deadline? ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Dish and Direct have only a small percentage of all of the ethnic programming up there. G25 is loaded with it! Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Might there not be two separate transmitters, operating on some sort of an alternating schedule with the intent of making it harder to pin down ? Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id wb2...@yahoo.com FM: Yamaha T-80 Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Guy Atkins d...@guyatkins.com wrote: From: Guy Atkins d...@guyatkins.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:36 PM Hi Pete, The plot thickens! Thanks for sharing this information. Before I drove around the church in Mill Creek, I drove about five blocks past it to the west (toward Lynnwood) and found the signal drop, drop, dropping. After picking it up the strongest near the apartments across from the church, I thought it likely that the transmitter was in the area. Based on the engineer's info and my location this afternoon at 164th St. SE and North Road, the distance to a spot half-way between Boeing Field and Hwy. 99 is three miles. If it's indeed a single transmitter in Lynnwood, maybe the groundwave varies a lot depending on the surrounding terrain. A drive between the two neighborhoods should settle this once and for all. BTW, I thought I heard an ID at 12 noon that sounded like Radio Enshah or Radio Enya or something like that. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com --- Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:17:00 -0700 From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net To: IRCA of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO Message-ID: 8d3f7a5d-78d9-40b0-abd8-dec13bc27...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yesterday I talked with the CE of KCIS-630 who was intrigued enough to ask a friend (a contract engineer) to check it out. The results: Chris actually found the transmitter up here in Lynnwood. Near the Home Depot between Highway 99 and Boeing field. They aren't putting out very much signal. 100 mv from across the street. Chris says they are using something like a citizen's band antenna on a two story building. Perhaps there are other 'pirates' out there doing the same thing. Mill Creek and Lynnwood are about five air miles apart but based on the mv reading from across the street, it seems unlikely that a single station at either location would be loud at the other. At the same time, unless they were synced (unlikely), they would clash significantly between both locations. Anyone want to hit both locations on the same day? ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Yes, this is getting interesting. I guess we have to ask the question, How many DXers does it take to ID a Russian language station on 1710? As Guy Atkins posed, A drive between the two neighborhoods should settle this once and for all. If Chuck Hutton is indeed up to this tomorrow afternoon, we should know shortly. Good time to break out the Stoli... Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA 12225w 4719n HQ180 + Kiwa air core loop ICF2010 + DX398; Palomar loop SRF-59 -M37V Eton E100 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
After work today I used a portable radio with a ferrite antenna and zeroed in on the transmitter. Just a few blocks west from the Home Depot as mentioned earlier. Appears to be mounted to the roof of a private residence. Coords: N 47 53.369 W 122 15.929 Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=N+47+53.368+W+122+15.929sll=47.889543,-122.265317sspn=0.000856,0.001462ie=UTF8ll=47.889536,-122.265483spn=0.000856,0.001462t=hz=19 I posted a pic of the antenna on my web site here: http://home.comcast.net/~k7wv/1710_b.jpg --Tom Rothlisberger K7WV ? Brier, WA -Original Message- From: Bruce Portzer bport...@comcast.net To: k...@aol.com Sent: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:14 pm Subject: [Fwd: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO] Tom Thanks for the comments.? Here are someone else's observations, which are sort of? consistent with yours. Bruce Original Message Subject: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 - CTD. Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:51:20 -0700 From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com To: IRCA of America irca@hard-core-dx.com References: dbe15065b7394755994761e8bb675...@3g This is from the contract engineer: The House in the exact center of the image is the one with the antenna on the roof. It is the 4th house at the end of the cul-de- sac on our left. I have the lat long if you want it. (The lat long are in the URL but need to be converted to min/sec.- PT) http://maps.google.com/maps? hl=enie=UTF8ll=47.889478,-122.265561spn=0.000847,0.001717t=hz=19 Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA Original Message Subject: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:17:00 -0700 From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com To: IRCA of America irca@hard-core-dx.com References: 9da85d2b3e0c764f95be7f4ba475556802375...@mxprod03.crista.net Yesterday I talked with the CE of KCIS-630 who was intrigued enough to ask a friend (a contract engineer) to check it out. The results: Chris actually found the transmitter up here in Lynnwood. Near the Home Depot between Highway 99 and Boeing field. They aren't putting out very much signal. 100 mv from across the street. Chris says they are using something like a citizen's band antenna on a two story building. Perhaps there are other 'pirates' out there doing the same thing. Mill Creek and Lynnwood are about five air miles apart but based on the mv reading from across the street, it seems unlikely that a single station at either location would be loud at the other. At the same time, unless they were synced (unlikely), they would clash significantly between both locations. Anyone want to hit both locations on the same day? Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA 12225w 4719n HQ180 + Kiwa air core loop ICF2010 + DX398; Palomar loop SRF-59 -M37V Eton E100 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Guys, This is amazing. A Russian pirate operating from a private residence in the Puget Sound area. But the programming still sounds like it may be a relay of some broadcaster. Great going! Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
That satellite dish on the same roof is probably picking up the programming stream. That's not a typical 18 DISH/DirecTV setup. --Tom? K7WV ? Brier, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
I've been following this thread with interest. I'm a bit too far away to get them. I was just thinking that a pirate station would not have the resources to generate 24 hour a day programming that this station does. What are the chances they are relaying the Internet feed of some station in Russia? --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net wrote: From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 1:06 PM Yes, this is getting interesting. I guess we have to ask the question, How many DXers does it take to ID a Russian language station on 1710? As Guy Atkins posed, A drive between the two neighborhoods should settle this once and for all. If Chuck Hutton is indeed up to this tomorrow afternoon, we should know shortly. Good time to break out the Stoli... Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA 12225w 4719n HQ180 + Kiwa air core loop ICF2010 + DX398; Palomar loop SRF-59 -M37V Eton E100 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
That satellite dish on the same roof is probably picking up the programming stream. That's not a typical 18 DISH/DirecTV setup. --Tom? K7WV / Dish: 24 inches - Dual sided galvanized steel - Unique aluminum powder-coat weather-protection - Standard grey color. LARGER SIZE DISH REFLECTIVE SURFACE INCREASES SIGNAL STRENGTH and REDUCES RAIN FADE. It turns out that Dish has several models and sizes available for various applications with dishes 18, 24, or 30 inches in diameter and wide models to allow reception of several sats simultaneously without moving the dish. Patrick Griffith, CBT CBNT CRO Westminster CO http://community.webtv.net/AM-DXer/ http://community.webtv.net/N0NNK/ ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Patrick, My guess would be a G25 DVB dish set up. I don't know of any Russian audio services on Dish, but there are several TV and radio services on G25. Tonight, after dark I will see if I can pick up any audio services on G25 and look for a //. I do get some Russian TV stations, but I have not checked out the audio services of late. I get whatever is free to air. I don't sub to anything on the the bird. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
The house next to it was 2324 119th St SW unit 2 so it stands to reason that the house with the xmtr is unit 1. Couldn't see their house number but there were several cars parked there and the garage door was open. Looks like they were home. Tom? K7WV Brier, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Yesterday I talked with the CE of KCIS-630 who was intrigued enough to ask a friend (a contract engineer) to check it out. The results: Chris actually found the transmitter up here in Lynnwood. Near the Home Depot between Highway 99 and Boeing field. They aren't putting out very much signal. 100 mv from across the street. Chris says they are using something like a citizen's band antenna on a two story building. Perhaps there are other 'pirates' out there doing the same thing. Mill Creek and Lynnwood are about five air miles apart but based on the mv reading from across the street, it seems unlikely that a single station at either location would be loud at the other. At the same time, unless they were synced (unlikely), they would clash significantly between both locations. Anyone want to hit both locations on the same day? Pete Taylor Tacoma, WA 12225w 4719n HQ180 + Kiwa air core loop ICF2010 + DX398; Palomar loop SRF-59 -M37V Eton E100 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Hi Pete, The plot thickens! Thanks for sharing this information. Before I drove around the church in Mill Creek, I drove about five blocks past it to the west (toward Lynnwood) and found the signal drop, drop, dropping. After picking it up the strongest near the apartments across from the church, I thought it likely that the transmitter was in the area. Based on the engineer's info and my location this afternoon at 164th St. SE and North Road, the distance to a spot half-way between Boeing Field and Hwy. 99 is three miles. If it's indeed a single transmitter in Lynnwood, maybe the groundwave varies a lot depending on the surrounding terrain. A drive between the two neighborhoods should settle this once and for all. BTW, I thought I heard an ID at 12 noon that sounded like Radio Enshah or Radio Enya or something like that. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com --- Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:17:00 -0700 From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net To: IRCA of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO Message-ID: 8d3f7a5d-78d9-40b0-abd8-dec13bc27...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yesterday I talked with the CE of KCIS-630 who was intrigued enough to ask a friend (a contract engineer) to check it out. The results: Chris actually found the transmitter up here in Lynnwood. Near the Home Depot between Highway 99 and Boeing field. They aren't putting out very much signal. 100 mv from across the street. Chris says they are using something like a citizen's band antenna on a two story building. Perhaps there are other 'pirates' out there doing the same thing. Mill Creek and Lynnwood are about five air miles apart but based on the mv reading from across the street, it seems unlikely that a single station at either location would be loud at the other. At the same time, unless they were synced (unlikely), they would clash significantly between both locations. Anyone want to hit both locations on the same day? ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO
Can somebody share any recordings of this station? Paul --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Guy Atkins d...@guyatkins.com wrote: From: Guy Atkins d...@guyatkins.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 7:36 PM Hi Pete, The plot thickens! Thanks for sharing this information. Before I drove around the church in Mill Creek, I drove about five blocks past it to the west (toward Lynnwood) and found the signal drop, drop, dropping. After picking it up the strongest near the apartments across from the church, I thought it likely that the transmitter was in the area. Based on the engineer's info and my location this afternoon at 164th St. SE and North Road, the distance to a spot half-way between Boeing Field and Hwy. 99 is three miles. If it's indeed a single transmitter in Lynnwood, maybe the groundwave varies a lot depending on the surrounding terrain. A drive between the two neighborhoods should settle this once and for all. BTW, I thought I heard an ID at 12 noon that sounded like Radio Enshah or Radio Enya or something like that. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA www.perseus-sdr.blogspot.com --- Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:17:00 -0700 From: Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net To: IRCA of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] GNARLY 1710 INFO Message-ID: 8d3f7a5d-78d9-40b0-abd8-dec13bc27...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yesterday I talked with the CE of KCIS-630 who was intrigued enough to ask a friend (a contract engineer) to check it out. The results: Chris actually found the transmitter up here in Lynnwood. Near the Home Depot between Highway 99 and Boeing field. They aren't putting out very much signal. 100 mv from across the street. Chris says they are using something like a citizen's band antenna on a two story building. Perhaps there are other 'pirates' out there doing the same thing. Mill Creek and Lynnwood are about five air miles apart but based on the mv reading from across the street, it seems unlikely that a single station at either location would be loud at the other. At the same time, unless they were synced (unlikely), they would clash significantly between both locations. Anyone want to hit both locations on the same day? ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
