Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
I hope both KIXI and KJR stay away from AM IBOC. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
iBiquity's Coming Soon is not necessarily all that it's made out to be. Indianapolis has one FM station that has been listed as such for YEARS. Dave -- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 According to the HDRadio website, KJR is listed as Soon in HD. Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Dave, Thanks. Hope you are right. I am not looking forward of another strong IBOCer in the NW. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
I think (and hope!) Dave may be right: 950-KJR is already an HD sub-channel of its sister station (KUBE-FM), just as 880-KIXI shares HD space with 107.9 FM. Haven't heard back from KIXI yet as to their AM-IBOC plans - keep your antennae crossed... 73 - Kevin S. Bainbridge Island, WA Dave, Thanks. Hope you are right. I am not looking forward of another strong IBOCer in the NW. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Kevin, Just checked to verify this, and KJR is not being broadcast on KUBE's HD. Didn't tink it was. KUBE is on HD1, and Xtreme Hip-Hop is on HD2. -- Rick - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD I think (and hope!) Dave may be right: 950-KJR is already an HD sub-channel of its sister station (KUBE-FM), just as 880-KIXI shares HD space with 107.9 FM. Haven't heard back from KIXI yet as to their AM-IBOC plans - keep your antennae crossed... 73 - Kevin S. Bainbridge Island, WA Dave, Thanks. Hope you are right. I am not looking forward of another strong IBOCer in the NW. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Your HD1, your main HD channel HAS to be what the analog is. Your HD2 or HD3 can be whatever you want to.. Powell POP email is powell at backroads DOT net --- On Thu, 7/10/08, Rick Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, Just checked to verify this, and KJR is not being broadcast on KUBE's HD. Didn't tink it was. KUBE is on HD1, and Xtreme Hip-Hop is on HD2. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Bruce, Bonneville has been switching its emphasis of newstalk format from AM to FM. They did that in DC when they switched WTOP to FM. In Salt Lake City, KSL 1160 is an afterthought to its FM outlet. Just listen to their TOH IDs and you will see what I mean. According to Ken Sleeman, the transmitter plant manager for the Bonneville Group in DC, Bonneville decision makers seem to think that FM is better than AM because it can penetrate through walls etc in urban structures and supposedly a large number of their listeners are office workers. I hope this makes sense. Bruce Portzer wrote: It sort of makes sense from a business standpoint, seeing as KJR-AM is the only one of Clear Channel's Seattle stations that's not already using HD. Speaking of KJR (sort of), there's a rumor going around town that KIRO might switch to all sports, especially if they take back the Mariners games from KOMO (KOMO's contract ends this year, and they've been losing money on the broadcasts). If KIRO changes format, the current newstalk format would supposedly move to KBSG-FM. All of which remains to be seen, but head to head competition with KIRO would probably cut deeply into KJR's 2.0 share in the ratings (KJR has been sports talk for many years). Seeing as KIRO usually places in the top 5 with something near a 4.0 share, I don't see the wisdom of their going all Sports, but stranger things have happened in the radio business. Bruce ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Hi Patrick: I share your concern, albeit in reverse: KIXI aims right at me, while I am towards the side of KJR's lobes. I checked KIXI's web site, and they are advertising only their FM HD-2 simulcast in connection with their HD radio give-away, not any sort of AM mention, so perhaps they are sticking to FM. I dropped a note to the operations manager to see what their AM plans are - I'll let you know what I hear. 73 - Kevin S Bainbridge Island, WA Scott, Thanks for the info. Not a good sign if KJR KIXI both hit the IBOC switch, especially for the Puget Sound DXers. KJR will be worse than KIXI here, as they have their fiqure eight South-West lode aimed right at me. With the South phased using the NW SW EWEs, I get S9+50 some nights on KJR. Not fun. I am wondering what the KJR IBOC QRM with do with powerhouse CFAC 960? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Kevin, Thanks. I can just see 4(!) frequencies going out the door for DU/TP DX. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
According to the HDRadio website, KJR is listed as Soon in HD. Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Do they say KJR 950? There is also KJR FM. I heard KJR was not going IBOC as they were close to KOMO on Vashon. KJR will be a real terror here as they have an ERP of 100 KW in this direction. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Yes, it was KJR 950 that was specified. KJR-FM has been HD for quite some time. I believe KJR KOMO are separated by about a couple of miles. Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett WA --- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they say KJR 950? There is also KJR FM. I heard KJR was not going IBOC as they were close to KOMO on Vashon. KJR will be a real terror here as they have an ERP of 100 KW in this direction. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
I know KIXI has been promoting receiving them in HD, but I've only heard it in reference to 106.9 HD-2 (KWRM, Bremerton). If I remember correctly, KJR 950 is co-located with KGNW 820 Burien (on Vashon, of course). Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett WA --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it was KJR 950 that was specified. KJR-FM has been HD for quite some time. I believe KJR KOMO are separated by about a couple of miles. Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett WA --- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do they say KJR 950? There is also KJR FM. I heard KJR was not going IBOC as they were close to KOMO on Vashon. KJR will be a real terror here as they have an ERP of 100 KW in this direction. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Eric, It will be interesting to see if they can get away with it with no QRM as there are several stations on Vashon. If they are co located with KGNW, then it may get into their signal, let alone 1000 or 1090. Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Patrick Martin wrote: Eric, It will be interesting to see if they can get away with it with no QRM as there are several stations on Vashon. If they are co located with KGNW, then it may get into their signal, let alone 1000 or 1090. My understanding, as of a couple of years ago, was that neither KJR nor KOMO could easily go IBOC because of their proximity. But that was a couple of years ago, and we know that corporate dictates can sometimes trump sensible engineering on a local level. KJR's diplex with KGNW is less of a problem. A good modern diplexing system (and KJR/KGNW have a very good, very modern one) produces VERY clean signals from both stations using it, often cleaner than they'd be without all the filtering involved in a diplex. What's sometimes a bigger issue is bandwidth through a diplexing system - I don't know whether KJR (or KGNW) has wide enough bandwidth through the diplexer to handle IBOC well. But diplexing, per se, is not an obstacle to the use of IBOC. WCBS and WFAN do it. So (I think) do 1150 and 1020 in LA. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
It sort of makes sense from a business standpoint, seeing as KJR-AM is the only one of Clear Channel's Seattle stations that's not already using HD. Speaking of KJR (sort of), there's a rumor going around town that KIRO might switch to all sports, especially if they take back the Mariners games from KOMO (KOMO's contract ends this year, and they've been losing money on the broadcasts). If KIRO changes format, the current newstalk format would supposedly move to KBSG-FM. All of which remains to be seen, but head to head competition with KIRO would probably cut deeply into KJR's 2.0 share in the ratings (KJR has been sports talk for many years). Seeing as KIRO usually places in the top 5 with something near a 4.0 share, I don't see the wisdom of their going all Sports, but stranger things have happened in the radio business. Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the HDRadio website, KJR is listed as Soon in HD. Eric Svajdlenka KA7MEK Everett, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Scott, Thanks for the info. Not a good sign if KJR KIXI both hit the IBOC switch, especially for the Puget Sound DXers. KJR will be worse than KIXI here, as they have their fiqure eight South-West lode aimed right at me. With the South phased using the NW SW EWEs, I get S9+50 some nights on KJR. Not fun. I am wondering what the KJR IBOC QRM with do with powerhouse CFAC 960? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] KJR 950 Seattle HD
Bruce, That would be a disappointment if KIRO changes to all sports. I would rather have KOMO do it. KIRO has some good talk shows and I listen to them often on the van radio. KIRO is the strongest Puget Sound AM signal here, followed by KJR. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
