Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
CHSC is a beacon for good Eastern cx, often mixing with Cleveland, Sometimes blocking the channel too. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside Oregon Come visit us for the 2010 IRCA convention held Sept 24-26 at the Inn At Seaside. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
Hi All: If you've ever been on or near the Niagara peninsula, you will know that it has no shortage off strong AM and FM signals. All the Toronto stations roar into St. Catherines, as do most of the Buffalo, all three Niagara Falls outlets and all three from Hamilton. Then, of course, there's the 610 St. Catherines. I only heard CHSC once, that in Port Huron about 40 years ago when WGAR was off. At that timee CHSC was running 1 kw-D, 250 w-N, and also had different day and night patterns. Otherwise they couldn't touch WGAR, even at sunset. Further, I would hardly call places like St. Catherines, Peterburough, and Kingston, all of which have seen reduced .AM service rural. As someone noted, FM's are cheaper to operate. They are also subject to less restriction under the Canadian content regulations and because the Canadian population is spread over a wide area, FM frequencies (except in the cities) tend to be more available than in most places in the U.S. 73 David --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Mike Hawkins michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hawkins michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:59 AM I have only heard them once, and that was 40 years ago. This one station aside, Canada seems to be shutting out radio to their rural users bit by bit. Mike On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com wrote: Mike Hawkins wrote: With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. This move has nothing to do with the national AM-to-FM shift in Canada. CHSC had been a thorn in the CRTC's side for years now, violating just about every rule there was to violate: it moved its studio from St. Catharines to the Toronto suburbs without permission, it replaced English-language programming with Italian shows in violation of the terms of its license, and it failed to comply with most of the other requirements Canadian broadcasters have to meet, including maintaining logger tapes. It's amazing it was allowed to go this long without getting its license pulled, really. Canada takes its broadcasting rules seriously, and there's little leeway for flagrant offenders like CHSC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
Scott: If Canada takes its broadcast rules seriously, when can we expect CKNX-920, which constantly operates on day power at ngiht, to get its license pulled? 73 David --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com wrote: From: Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 3:35 AM Mike Hawkins wrote: With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. This move has nothing to do with the national AM-to-FM shift in Canada. CHSC had been a thorn in the CRTC's side for years now, violating just about every rule there was to violate: it moved its studio from St. Catharines to the Toronto suburbs without permission, it replaced English-language programming with Italian shows in violation of the terms of its license, and it failed to comply with most of the other requirements Canadian broadcasters have to meet, including maintaining logger tapes. It's amazing it was allowed to go this long without getting its license pulled, really. Canada takes its broadcasting rules seriously, and there's little leeway for flagrant offenders like CHSC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
David Faulkner wrote: Scott: If Canada takes its broadcast rules seriously, when can we expect CKNX-920, which constantly operates on day power at ngiht, to get its license pulled? 73 David Welcome to the complex world of Canadian broadcast regulation, where there are two parties involved. The CRTC regulates the content and business sides of broadcasting, but technical matters are under the oversight of Industry Canada. Which is to say - the CRTC would get involved if CKNX wasn't playing enough CanCon, or if it wasn't maintaining logger tapes, or if it moved its studios to Owen Sound. But day power at night is purely an Industry Canada matter, and with only one other Canadian station on 920, it's pretty much up to the station in Portage-la-Prairie to complain about any night interference from CKNX, or for some US station that's receiving interference to start an international complaint going via the State Department. Otherwise, I suspect the regulators at Industry Canada aren't paying much attention to AM stations running day facilities after dark. CKNX certainly isn't the only offender (remember when 1110 in Sarnia *never* went to night pattern for years on end?), and as long as the FCC isn't cracking down on all the excess RF that US stations send north, IC doesn't seem to be very interested in returning the favor. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
Hi, I live approximately 100 miles WNW of portage la prairie and CFRY 920 comes in loud and clear at my location every night. In fact CFRY has to be completely nulled before I can log anything else on 920 and Colorado is the only distant station I have ever logged on 920 so I don't expect portage la prairie to complain about CKNX. Kenneth Nawalkowski Sandy Lake, MB - Original Message - From: Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent David Faulkner wrote: Scott: If Canada takes its broadcast rules seriously, when can we expect CKNX-920, which constantly operates on day power at ngiht, to get its license pulled? 73 David Welcome to the complex world of Canadian broadcast regulation, where there are two parties involved. The CRTC regulates the content and business sides of broadcasting, but technical matters are under the oversight of Industry Canada. Which is to say - the CRTC would get involved if CKNX wasn't playing enough CanCon, or if it wasn't maintaining logger tapes, or if it moved its studios to Owen Sound. But day power at night is purely an Industry Canada matter, and with only one other Canadian station on 920, it's pretty much up to the station in Portage-la-Prairie to complain about any night interference from CKNX, or for some US station that's receiving interference to start an international complaint going via the State Department. Otherwise, I suspect the regulators at Industry Canada aren't paying much attention to AM stations running day facilities after dark. CKNX certainly isn't the only offender (remember when 1110 in Sarnia *never* went to night pattern for years on end?), and as long as the FCC isn't cracking down on all the excess RF that US stations send north, IC doesn't seem to be very interested in returning the favor. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
If Canada takes its broadcast rules seriously, when can we expect CKNX-920, which constantly operates on day power at night, to get its license pulled? I'm about five miles from WHJJ-920 licensed to Providence, RI. I'm in one of their major lobes which puts more than 5kw ERP toward me. When I null WHJJ, CKNX is usually quite listenable. I've mentioned that to the WHJJ engineer, but I don't think they will ever bother to complain. Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
In a lengthy release which I will not repeat here, the CRTC will not renew the license of CHSC-1220 St. Catharines ON. The station must go silent by the end of the current license term - August 31, 2010 http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-533.htm CHSC St. Catharines – Non-renewal of licence The Commission denies the application to renew the broadcasting licence held by Pellpropco Inc. for CHSC St. Catharines. much deleted here 50. Accordingly, the Commission denies the application to renew the broadcasting licence held by Pellpropco Inc. for CHSC St. Catharines. Accordingly, the licensee must cease broadcasting by no later than the end of the broadcast day on 31 August 2010. In light of the decision not to renew, there is no need to deal with the request to amend the licence. 73, Deane McIntyre VE6BPO ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
What a shame. This station has been one of my beacons for good Eastern conditions. I heard this station the first time back in the 60s or 70s, I think. QSL'd years ago. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside Oregon Come visit us for the 2010 IRCA convention held Sept 24-26 at the Inn At Seaside. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
What a shame. This station has been one of my beacons for good Eastern conditions. I heard this station the first time back in the 60s or 70s, I think. QSL'd years ago. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside Oregon Come visit us for the 2010 IRCA convention held Sept 24-26 at the Inn At Seaside. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
-Original Message- From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club ofAmerica irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: Wayne Heinen amradio...@nrcdxas.org; NRC a...@nrcdxas.org; Mailing list for the InternationalRadio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com; Bill Hale w_r_h...@sbcglobal.net; Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent What a shame. This station has been one of my beacons for good Eastern onditions. I heard this station the first time back in the 60s or 70s, think. QSL'd years ago. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin easide Oregon Come visit us for the 2010 IRCA convention held Sept 24-26 at the Inn t Seaside. ___ RCA mailing list r...@hard-core-dx.com ttp://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original ontributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its ditors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
Back when there no USA 1220 stations outside Cleveland broadcasting at night, we in East Tennessee could sometimes hear CHSC and CJSS Cornwall under WGAR, mixing with XEB Mexico City. Reception of all three ended promptly in December 1986, when the daytimers on 1220 (and 730, 800, 900, 1050 and 1570) all went fulltime. Steve Francis Alcoa, Tennessee -Original Message- From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net What a shame. This station has been one of my beacons for good Eastern onditions. I heard this station the first time back in the 60s or 70s, think. QSL'd years ago. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin easide Oregon Come visit us for the 2010 IRCA convention held Sept 24-26 at the Inn t Seaside. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
In a lengthy release which I will not repeat here, the CRTC will not renew the license of CHSC-1220 St. Catharines ON. The station must go silent by the end of the current license term - August 31, 2010 http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-533.htm CHSC St. Catharines – Non-renewal of licence Good riddance to this pest. Don't say they didn't have it coming. For years they had been broadcasting in Italian when they should have been playing oldies in EE, and were aiming their programming at the Toronto area rather than St. Catharines-Niagara. 73 Mike Brooker Toronto, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. Mike Hawkins On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mike Brooker aum...@idirect.com wrote: In a lengthy release which I will not repeat here, the CRTC will not renew the license of CHSC-1220 St. Catharines ON. The station must go silent by the end of the current license term - August 31, 2010 http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-533.htm CHSC St. Catharines – Non-renewal of licence Good riddance to this pest. Don't say they didn't have it coming. For years they had been broadcasting in Italian when they should have been playing oldies in EE, and were aiming their programming at the Toronto area rather than St. Catharines-Niagara. 73 Mike Brooker Toronto, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
I agree - it appears there is no real hesitation up there to slowly vacate the MW dial. In reading the decision, it looks like the owners were not the most scrupulous players, which apparently hastened their demise. I'm not aware that US broadcasters have that many requirements they have to meet (minimums on national language and domestic material content, etc.) - am I wrong??? Kevin S With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. Mike Hawkins On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Mike Brooker aum...@idirect.com wrote: In a lengthy release which I will not repeat here, the CRTC will not renew the license of CHSC-1220 St. Catharines ON. The station must go silent by the end of the current license term - August 31, 2010 http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-533.htm CHSC St. Catharines Non-renewal of licence Good riddance to this pest. Don't say they didn't have it coming. For years they had been broadcasting in Italian when they should have been playing oldies in EE, and were aiming their programming at the Toronto area rather than St. Catharines-Niagara. 73 Mike Brooker Toronto, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
Mike Hawkins wrote: With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. This move has nothing to do with the national AM-to-FM shift in Canada. CHSC had been a thorn in the CRTC's side for years now, violating just about every rule there was to violate: it moved its studio from St. Catharines to the Toronto suburbs without permission, it replaced English-language programming with Italian shows in violation of the terms of its license, and it failed to comply with most of the other requirements Canadian broadcasters have to meet, including maintaining logger tapes. It's amazing it was allowed to go this long without getting its license pulled, really. Canada takes its broadcasting rules seriously, and there's little leeway for flagrant offenders like CHSC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] License of CHSC-1220 St Catharines ON NOT renewed by CRTC, will go silent
I have only heard them once, and that was 40 years ago. This one station aside, Canada seems to be shutting out radio to their rural users bit by bit. Mike On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Fybush sc...@fybush.com wrote: Mike Hawkins wrote: With what seems to be the Canadian government's goal of keeping anyone thats not in a metropolitan area from hearing radio stations, I wonder how long it will be before they ban AC power and force everyone to use batteries. There is no way that all populated areas of the country can be served by FM only, and I really wonder why they are shutting down AM broadcasting piece by piece. This move has nothing to do with the national AM-to-FM shift in Canada. CHSC had been a thorn in the CRTC's side for years now, violating just about every rule there was to violate: it moved its studio from St. Catharines to the Toronto suburbs without permission, it replaced English-language programming with Italian shows in violation of the terms of its license, and it failed to comply with most of the other requirements Canadian broadcasters have to meet, including maintaining logger tapes. It's amazing it was allowed to go this long without getting its license pulled, really. Canada takes its broadcasting rules seriously, and there's little leeway for flagrant offenders like CHSC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
