[IRCA] Nearest locals

[Dennis Vroom]

 
Near AM stations to my location are listed below.

KOHI   1600     S-9 +50 db    8.8 miles
KLOG  1490     S-9 +45 db   10  miles
KEDO  1400     S-9 +55 db   15  miles
KBAM  1270     S-9 +50 db  16 miles

Antenna used is the non directional High Performance Loop.
Receiver JRC NRD 545

Best regards,

Dennis,
Kalama, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

For once, I don't live right AT or near an AM transmitter site.

Ive lived AT the sites for WMEL 1300 Cocoa, FL(5KW)... DWQMA-1520 Marks,
MS(250W)WWNH 1340 Madbury, NH(1KW) and WABV 1590, Abbeville, SC(1KW)

Now, my nearest AM is about 10 air miles away with 1KW on 1400.

Paul



On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Dennis Vroom  wrote:

>
>
>
> Near AM stations to my location are listed below.
>
> KOHI   1600 S-9 +50 db8.8 miles
> KLOG  1490 S-9 +45 db   10  miles
> KEDO  1400 S-9 +55 db   15  miles
> KBAM  1270 S-9 +50 db  16 miles
>
> Antenna used is the non directional High Performance Loop.
> Receiver JRC NRD 545
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dennis,
> Kalama, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Bob Coomler]

KJLL  1340  South Tucson  3.4 miles (City of license. We are both in NE Tucson)
KFFN  1490  Tucson  5 miles
KCEE  690  Tucson  7 miles
KWFM  1450  Tucson  8 miles
KCUB  1290  Tucson  9 miles
KTUC  1400  Tucson  9 miles
KNST  790  Tucson  10 miles
KTKT  990  Tucson  10 miles
KXEW  1600 South Tucson  10 miles
 
We won't even go there about signal strengths.  And to think, I lived in 
Enterprise, OR for awhile.
 
Bob Coomler
Tucson, AZ
 
 
From: Dennis Vroom 
>To: "irca@hard-core-dx.com" 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:34 PM
>Subject: [IRCA] Nearest locals
>
>
>
> 
>Near AM stations to my location are listed below.
>
>KOHI   1600     S-9 +50 db    8.8 miles
>KLOG  1490     S-9 +45 db   10  miles
>KEDO  1400     S-9 +55 db   15  miles
>KBAM  1270     S-9 +50 db  16 miles
>
>Antenna used is the non directional High Performance Loop.
>Receiver JRC NRD 545
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dennis,
>Kalama, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Scott Fybush]

I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370, 
WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to 
a different (and more distant) site a few years ago.


It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, 
within a few hundred yards of each!


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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

The problem for me now is not AM, but FM.

I can see the antenna bays for Class A WJNG 100.5(1300 Watts) and Class B
WKBI 93.9 (2300W) from my backdoor, the tower is only about 2 blocks away.
There's a CP for a non commercial station on the same tower.

Paul



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> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to a
> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
>
> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, within
> a few hundred yards of each!
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Mike Hawkins]

Within 15 miles, I have:

 2.8 miles, KZDG/1550 10 KW
 5.2 miles, KNBR/680 50 KW
11.0 miles, KDOW/1220 5 KW
12.4 miles, KGO/810 50 KW
12.6 miles, KTCT/1050 50 KW
12.7 miles, KFAX/1100 50 KW
12.8 miles, KTRB/860 50 KW
13.2 miles, KSFB/1260 5 KW
15.0 miles, KSFO/560 5 KW

RF is everywhere!

Mike Hawkins


On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:

> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to a
> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
>
> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, within
> a few hundred yards of each!
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Derek Vincent]

I feel your pain Mike. I'm north of you In Vallejo and I get hammered with RF. 
I don't even Bother DXing from home anymore. 

2 locals KDIA and KDYA on the old KNBA tower ( first radio gig ) about a mile 
away. 

2 FM KUIC and KZCT  (7watts) wow. 





On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Mike Hawkins  wrote:

> Within 15 miles, I have:
> 
> 2.8 miles, KZDG/1550 10 KW
> 5.2 miles, KNBR/680 50 KW
> 11.0 miles, KDOW/1220 5 KW
> 12.4 miles, KGO/810 50 KW
> 12.6 miles, KTCT/1050 50 KW
> 12.7 miles, KFAX/1100 50 KW
> 12.8 miles, KTRB/860 50 KW
> 13.2 miles, KSFB/1260 5 KW
> 15.0 miles, KSFO/560 5 KW
> 
> RF is everywhere!
> 
> Mike Hawkins
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:
> 
>> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
>> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to a
>> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
>> 
>> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, within
>> a few hundred yards of each!
>> 
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Mike Hawkins]

On top of high-power AMs, RF and IBOC splatter, I am also 0.4 miles away
from KCSM-FM/91.1 with 14 KW of IBOC.  Even the squirrels radiate around
here.

Mike


On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Derek Vincent  wrote:

> I feel your pain Mike. I'm north of you In Vallejo and I get hammered with
> RF. I don't even Bother DXing from home anymore.
>
> 2 locals KDIA and KDYA on the old KNBA tower ( first radio gig ) about a
> mile away.
>
> 2 FM KUIC and KZCT  (7watts) wow.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Mike Hawkins 
> wrote:
>
> > Within 15 miles, I have:
> >
> > 2.8 miles, KZDG/1550 10 KW
> > 5.2 miles, KNBR/680 50 KW
> > 11.0 miles, KDOW/1220 5 KW
> > 12.4 miles, KGO/810 50 KW
> > 12.6 miles, KTCT/1050 50 KW
> > 12.7 miles, KFAX/1100 50 KW
> > 12.8 miles, KTRB/860 50 KW
> > 13.2 miles, KSFB/1260 5 KW
> > 15.0 miles, KSFO/560 5 KW
> >
> > RF is everywhere!
> >
> > Mike Hawkins
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:
> >
> >> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
> >> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to
> a
> >> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
> >>
> >> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites,
> within
> >> a few hundred yards of each!
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Patrick Martin]

Hi Dennis,

Here where I live between Seaside and Astoria my closest locals:

KAST-1370-1KW-Astoria-5.6 MI-S9+35 
KKEE-1230-1 KW-Astoria-7.01 MI-S9+38
KSWB-840-1/.5KW-Seaside-8.8 MI-S9+38

The signals vary depending on what antenna I use. Like KSWB is S9+38 off
the WSW EWE, but on the NE EWE is is S9+18 DB. Those above S meter
reading are the strongest. All locals can be phased mostly out at night. 

73,

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Dennis Vroom]

I listen to day timer KNBA 1190 and the horse race recreations with Bill Terry 
from
Dee O'Connor Publications in the 60's and early 70's.  KNBA would end their
sign-off announcement with stay tune for KEX Portland.  KEX would boom in the
SF Bay Area.  A clever way to keep your local listener tuned to your frequency 
when
they turned their radio on the next day.

 
Dennis,
Kalama, WA



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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

I feel your pain Mike. I'm north of you In Vallejo and I get hammered with RF. 
I don't even Bother DXing from home anymore. 

2 locals KDIA and KDYA on the old KNBA tower ( first radio gig ) about a mile 
away. 

2 FM KUIC and KZCT  (7watts) wow. 





On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Mike Hawkins  wrote:

> Within 15 miles, I have:
> 
> 2.8 miles, KZDG/1550 10 KW
> 5.2 miles, KNBR/680 50 KW
> 11.0 miles, KDOW/1220 5 KW
> 12.4 miles, KGO/810 50 KW
> 12.6 miles, KTCT/1050 50 KW
> 12.7 miles, KFAX/1100 50 KW
> 12.8 miles, KTRB/860 50 KW
> 13.2 miles, KSFB/1260 5 KW
> 15.0 miles, KSFO/560 5 KW
> 
> RF is everywhere!
> 
> Mike Hawkins
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:
> 
>> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
>> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to a
>> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
>> 
>> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, within
>> a few hundred yards of each!
>> 
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Tim Hills]

Ouch Dennis,

I have a few pests myself that make DXing a bit of a challenge at times.

KXRB 1000 10KW /100Wt, both directional, 5 miles
KSOO 1140 10KW ND/5KW Dir. 4 miles
KELO  1320 5KW ND/Dir. 3 miles

The directional patterns of those 3 converge in my living room.
Last winter I heard Niel Boortz ranting about something or another on 
the chain link fence (KSOO) and country music coming from the toaster 
(KXRB). Maybe I should have sent reception reports ;)


There's also 2 low power stations
KWSN 440W ND day/night at 6 miles
KZOY 500W ND day only, listed as 6 miles but more like 1 1/2 miles. I 
can see their 400' tower from my kitchen window when the trees are bare.


We also have a 1W transmitter on 1620 on the other side of town but I 
have yet to log it at this location.


On the upper SW bands I've had problems from the KELO TV 2000' tower 
about 7 miles away., 2 full power TV stations and a low power 
translator, 3 (4?) FM and the NOAA station plus State repeaters and who 
knows what else.


Finally got the last parts in for my receiver project. Hoping to be 
doing some serious DXing this weekend.


Tim Hills
Sioux Falls, SD

On 9/13/2011 19:34, Dennis Vroom wrote:


  
Near AM stations to my location are listed below.


KOHI   1600 S-9 +50 db8.8 miles
KLOG  1490 S-9 +45 db   10  miles
KEDO  1400 S-9 +55 db   15  miles
KBAM  1270 S-9 +50 db  16 miles

Antenna used is the non directional High Performance Loop.
Receiver JRC NRD 545

Best regards,

Dennis,
Kalama, WA



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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[John Sampson]

Closest local here in Grand Rapids is KOZY (1320); their tx is about 7½ miles 
from me.  Not much of a problem at night (I've been able to null them to hear 
KELO and WILS in the past).  Next closest is WNMT (650) Nashwauk, about 30 
miles.  Worst problems now are digital hash leaking from the DSL and in-house 
electrical noise thanks to new solid state stuff.  A sidelight; when we lived 
in Winston-Salem, we could see one of  the WSJS (600) towers (3 - 4 miles from 
us) from our upstairs bedroom.  Fortunately, I was in one of their nulls and 
they presented no problem.  The red light on their tower also proved quite 
useful on Christmas Eve; I told our children that it  might be Rudolph and that 
provided a good incentive for them to hurry to bed. - John
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Patrick Martin]

>>Worst problems now are digital hash leaking from the DSL and in-house
electrical noise thanks to new solid state stuff. <<

DSL causes noise? I have heard there is no issue with DSL from some
others. Maybe I am stuck with 28.8 dial forever  here? Or the 6Gs for
Verizon Wireless?  The Cable here radiates terribly. That is why I still
don't have it for my computer.

Patrick 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Derek Vincent]

I would frequently get calls from KEX when I would power off late... Opps : )





On Sep 13, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Dennis Vroom  wrote:

> I listen to day timer KNBA 1190 and the horse race recreations with Bill 
> Terry from
> Dee O'Connor Publications in the 60's and early 70's.  KNBA would end their
> sign-off announcement with stay tune for KEX Portland.  KEX would boom in the
> SF Bay Area.  A clever way to keep your local listener tuned to your 
> frequency when
> they turned their radio on the next day.
> 
>  
> Dennis,
> Kalama, WA
> 
> 
> 
> From: Derek Vincent 
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals
> 
> I feel your pain Mike. I'm north of you In Vallejo and I get hammered with 
> RF. I don't even Bother DXing from home anymore. 
> 
> 2 locals KDIA and KDYA on the old KNBA tower ( first radio gig ) about a mile 
> away. 
> 
> 2 FM KUIC and KZCT  (7watts) wow. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 13, 2011, at 6:59 PM, Mike Hawkins  wrote:
> 
>> Within 15 miles, I have:
>> 
>> 2.8 miles, KZDG/1550 10 KW
>> 5.2 miles, KNBR/680 50 KW
>> 11.0 miles, KDOW/1220 5 KW
>> 12.4 miles, KGO/810 50 KW
>> 12.6 miles, KTCT/1050 50 KW
>> 12.7 miles, KFAX/1100 50 KW
>> 12.8 miles, KTRB/860 50 KW
>> 13.2 miles, KSFB/1260 5 KW
>> 15.0 miles, KSFO/560 5 KW
>> 
>> RF is everywhere!
>> 
>> Mike Hawkins
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Scott Fybush  wrote:
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>>> I'm within a couple of miles of three directional AMs: my own WXXI 1370,
>>> WHTK 1280 (both 5 kW) and WROC 950 (1 kW). A fourth, WHIC 1460, moved to a
>>> different (and more distant) site a few years ago.
>>> 
>>> It could be worse - I grew up right between the 1460 and 1370 sites, within
>>> a few hundred yards of each!
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Tim Hills]

Good catch for KELO, your on a side lobe of their array.
Greg Belfrage does the QSLs there by email. the "contact us" link on 
keloam.com goes to his inbox.


I've eliminated most of the computer/network generated noise here by 
setting a laptop up for internet sharing through the wireless card, no 
router just a cablemodem that seems to behave itself for RF emissions. 
My worst problems now are a plasma TV on one side and an old 
Heath/Zenith motion detecting light on the other of me.


Tim Hills
Sioux Falls, SD

On 9/14/2011 9:43, John Sampson wrote:

Closest local here in Grand Rapids is KOZY (1320); their tx is about 7½ miles 
from me.  Not much of a problem at night (I've been able to null them to hear 
KELO and WILS in the past).  Next closest is WNMT (650) Nashwauk, about 30 
miles.  Worst problems now are digital hash leaking from the DSL and in-house 
electrical noise thanks to new solid state stuff.  A sidelight; when we lived 
in Winston-Salem, we could see one of  the WSJS (600) towers (3 - 4 miles from 
us) from our upstairs bedroom.  Fortunately, I was in one of their nulls and 
they presented no problem.  The red light on their tower also proved quite 
useful on Christmas Eve; I told our children that it  might be Rudolph and that 
provided a good incentive for them to hurry to bed. - John
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Mark Durenberger Mobile]

Hi Patrick.  He probably meant the gear associated with DSL service...that 
usually includes some form of router (aka "Hash Generator")


Another fabulous noise-box is the set-top converter for digital TV!

Mark Durenberger

-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals


Worst problems now are digital hash leaking from the DSL and in-house

electrical noise thanks to new solid state stuff. <<

DSL causes noise? I have heard there is no issue with DSL from some
others. Maybe I am stuck with 28.8 dial forever  here? Or the 6Gs for
Verizon Wireless?  The Cable here radiates terribly. That is why I still
don't have it for my computer.

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Patrick Martin]

Mark,

I have lots of satellite gear, 6 different satellite receivers and 4
dishes in the backyard and if you get within 6 feet of the receivers,
they do generate digital hash, but move away, there is no noise.
No noise detected on the R8 from any of the satellite gear 20 feet away.
The Charter Cable in the neighborhood really causes TVI though. The
neighbors with Dish or Direct TV I get no noise from them. 
  OK, on the DSL. Routers can be noisy I have read. Not having one, I
have no experience with them.

73,

Patrick 

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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Mark Durenberger Mobile]

At my lake cabin I have an Apex (Best Buy) digital converter...getting 
over-the-air TV from a rooftop antenna.  Hash is generated that goes right 
up the coax to the antenna (and radiates along the way).


I was able to eliminate it by building an "RF Choke"...winding 11 turns of 
the coax through 5 toroid rings.  Placed the choke right next to the Apex.


You're right; satellite downlinks seem to be relatively clean.

Almost every router I've tried (Linksys/Cisco among them) generate(s) a lot 
of hash...and that seems to travel along the associated data cables to/from 
computers...again acting like antennas.  It's depressing to pass a pocket 
portable near these cables.


I'll have to try the "RF Choke" idea on the Comcast cable feed...will let 
you know what happens.


Mark Durenberger
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Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
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Mark,

I have lots of satellite gear, 6 different satellite receivers and 4
dishes in the backyard and if you get within 6 feet of the receivers,
they do generate digital hash, but move away, there is no noise.
No noise detected on the R8 from any of the satellite gear 20 feet away.
The Charter Cable in the neighborhood really causes TVI though. The
neighbors with Dish or Direct TV I get no noise from them.
 OK, on the DSL. Routers can be noisy I have read. Not having one, I
have no experience with them.

73,

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Tim Noonan]

Here is my list.  I have ten AM stations within 15 miles.

5.1 mi WMCS 1290 Greenfield WI
9.2 mi WSSP 1250 Milwaukee
10.5 mi WOKY 920 Milwaukee
11.1 mi WJTI 1460 West Allis
11.1 mi WGLB 1560 Elm Grove, same site as 1460
12.1 mi WJYI 1340 Milwaukee
12.3 mi WRJN 1400 Racine
12.6 mi WISN 1130 Milwaukee
13.5 mi WNOV 860 Milwaukee
14.6 mi WTMJ 620 Milwaukee

My closest station, though, is a long wave beacon, MK 410, at 2.9 
miles.  And my closest unheard remains WNTA 1330 Rockford IL, at 73.8 miles.


Good DX, Tim Noonan  dxi...@aol.com  Oak Creek WI
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Stephen Airy]

Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:

6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 
outdoors)
7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating about 
80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my PL-606)
8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my PL-606)
9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu on 
the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the PL-606)
 
The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2 XEWW-690, 
about 32 mi SW of me.  On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu daytime, and 
several dB less at night.  My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about 11.2 miles west of 
me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower.  Also diplexing with them is 
360W/61W 1040 KURS.  Both stations are pretty much "in the clear" at night 
here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter underneath.  
My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the strongest here (at 
least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles.  My strongest TIS is 1620 
WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW.  With a longwire (translation: holding it up to a 
utility pole ground wire) and Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it almost 
sounds like a nearly noise-free local-grade signal.
 
Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59 doesn't 
quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's house east of 
L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not limited to 1100 KFNX Cave 
Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa Barbara CA, 1310 XEC 
Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX, 1440 KFNY Riverside CA or 
KUHL Santa Maria CA  - preferably armchair copy without splatter or 
blocking/desense. :)
Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house include:
1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N night 
(2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like they're using 
the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and PL-606 
include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330 KWKW, 
1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent 1580 
KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Derek Vincent]

Hey steve... 

Do you have any info on Lax air 530? It fades up in the muck of stations around 
sunset. Call letters, power?? It's amazing how many stations are on that 
channel not forgetting the stuff that comes across the water.





On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Stephen Airy  wrote:

> Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:
> 
> 6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 
> outdoors)
> 7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating about 
> 80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
> 7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my PL-606)
> 8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my PL-606)
> 9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
> 1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu on 
> the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
> 910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the PL-606)
>  
> The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2 XEWW-690, 
> about 32 mi SW of me.  On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu daytime, and 
> several dB less at night.  My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about 11.2 miles west 
> of me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower.  Also diplexing with them is 
> 360W/61W 1040 KURS.  Both stations are pretty much "in the clear" at night 
> here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter underneath.  
> My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the strongest here 
> (at least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles.  My strongest TIS is 1620 
> WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW.  With a longwire (translation: holding it up to 
> a utility pole ground wire) and Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it 
> almost sounds like a nearly noise-free local-grade signal.
>  
> Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59 
> doesn't quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's 
> house east of L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not limited 
> to 1100 KFNX Cave Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa Barbara 
> CA, 1310 XEC Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX, 1440 KFNY 
> Riverside CA or KUHL Santa Maria CA  - preferably armchair copy without 
> splatter or blocking/desense. :)
> Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house include:
> 1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
> 1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N night 
> (2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like they're 
> using the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
> 1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
> Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and PL-606 
> include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330 KWKW, 
> 1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent 1580 
> KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

LAX RADIO 530 is 100 watts
On Sep 16, 2011 1:13 PM, "Derek Vincent"  wrote:
> Hey steve...
>
> Do you have any info on Lax air 530? It fades up in the muck of stations
around sunset. Call letters, power?? It's amazing how many stations are on
that channel not forgetting the stuff that comes across the water.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Stephen Airy 
wrote:
>
>> Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:
>>
>> 6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun
PL-606 outdoors)
>> 7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating
about 80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
>> 7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my PL-606)
>> 8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my PL-606)
>> 9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
>> 1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu on
the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
>> 910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the PL-606)
>>
>> The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2
XEWW-690, about 32 mi SW of me. On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu
daytime, and several dB less at night. My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about 11.2
miles west of me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower. Also diplexing with
them is 360W/61W 1040 KURS. Both stations are pretty much "in the clear" at
night here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter
underneath. My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the
strongest here (at least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles. My
strongest TIS is 1620 WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW. With a longwire
(translation: holding it up to a utility pole ground wire) and
Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it almost sounds like a nearly
noise-free local-grade signal.
>>
>> Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59
doesn't quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's
house east of L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not limited
to 1100 KFNX Cave Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa
Barbara CA, 1310 XEC Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX,
1440 KFNY Riverside CA or KUHL Santa Maria CA - preferably armchair copy
without splatter or blocking/desense. :)
>> Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house
include:
>> 1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
>> 1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N
night (2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like
they're using the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
>> 1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
>> Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and PL-606
include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330 KWKW,
1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent 1580
KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Derek Vincent]

Thanks Paul... 100w?? For the airport?? I was wishing  10w for a real DX prize. 





On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:32 AM, "Paul B. Walker, Jr." 
 wrote:

> LAX RADIO 530 is 100 watts
> On Sep 16, 2011 1:13 PM, "Derek Vincent"  wrote:
>> Hey steve...
>> 
>> Do you have any info on Lax air 530? It fades up in the muck of stations
> around sunset. Call letters, power?? It's amazing how many stations are on
> that channel not forgetting the stuff that comes across the water.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Stephen Airy 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:
>>> 
>>> 6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun
> PL-606 outdoors)
>>> 7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating
> about 80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
>>> 7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my PL-606)
>>> 8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my PL-606)
>>> 9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
>>> 1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu on
> the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
>>> 910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the PL-606)
>>> 
>>> The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2
> XEWW-690, about 32 mi SW of me. On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu
> daytime, and several dB less at night. My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about 11.2
> miles west of me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower. Also diplexing with
> them is 360W/61W 1040 KURS. Both stations are pretty much "in the clear" at
> night here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter
> underneath. My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the
> strongest here (at least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles. My
> strongest TIS is 1620 WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW. With a longwire
> (translation: holding it up to a utility pole ground wire) and
> Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it almost sounds like a nearly
> noise-free local-grade signal.
>>> 
>>> Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59
> doesn't quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's
> house east of L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not limited
> to 1100 KFNX Cave Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa
> Barbara CA, 1310 XEC Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX,
> 1440 KFNY Riverside CA or KUHL Santa Maria CA - preferably armchair copy
> without splatter or blocking/desense. :)
>>> Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house
> include:
>>> 1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
>>> 1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N
> night (2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like
> they're using the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
>>> 1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
>>> Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and PL-606
> include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330 KWKW,
> 1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent 1580
> KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Yup.. and they have a fairly efficent antenna and actual processing.

They got some exemption to the 10W limit, claiming they neede dit to cover
the extra ground they had since LAX and environs is so big



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Derek Vincent  wrote:

> Thanks Paul... 100w?? For the airport?? I was wishing  10w for a real DX
> prize.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:32 AM, "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > LAX RADIO 530 is 100 watts
> > On Sep 16, 2011 1:13 PM, "Derek Vincent"  wrote:
> >> Hey steve...
> >>
> >> Do you have any info on Lax air 530? It fades up in the muck of stations
> > around sunset. Call letters, power?? It's amazing how many stations are
> on
> > that channel not forgetting the stuff that comes across the water.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Stephen Airy 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:
> >>>
> >>> 6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun
> > PL-606 outdoors)
> >>> 7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating
> > about 80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
> >>> 7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my
> PL-606)
> >>> 8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my
> PL-606)
> >>> 9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
> >>> 1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu
> on
> > the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
> >>> 910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the
> PL-606)
> >>>
> >>> The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2
> > XEWW-690, about 32 mi SW of me. On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu
> > daytime, and several dB less at night. My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about
> 11.2
> > miles west of me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower. Also diplexing
> with
> > them is 360W/61W 1040 KURS. Both stations are pretty much "in the clear"
> at
> > night here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter
> > underneath. My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the
> > strongest here (at least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles. My
> > strongest TIS is 1620 WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW. With a longwire
> > (translation: holding it up to a utility pole ground wire) and
> > Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it almost sounds like a nearly
> > noise-free local-grade signal.
> >>>
> >>> Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59
> > doesn't quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's
> > house east of L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not
> limited
> > to 1100 KFNX Cave Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa
> > Barbara CA, 1310 XEC Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX,
> > 1440 KFNY Riverside CA or KUHL Santa Maria CA - preferably armchair copy
> > without splatter or blocking/desense. :)
> >>> Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house
> > include:
> >>> 1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
> >>> 1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N
> > night (2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like
> > they're using the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
> >>> 1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
> >>> Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and
> PL-606
> > include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330
> KWKW,
> > 1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent
> 1580
> > KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Stephen Airy]

I think it's WNHV296.  They do play some short music beds between/under some of 
their announcements.


From: Derek Vincent 
To: Stephen Airy ; Mailing list for the 
International Radio Club of America 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

Hey steve... 

Do you have any info on Lax air 530? It fades up in the muck of stations around 
sunset. Call letters, power?? It's amazing how many stations are on that 
channel not forgetting the stuff that comes across the water.





On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Stephen Airy  wrote:

> Here are my nearest locals, within 10 miles:
> 
> 6.3 mi N - 1130 KSDO - 10kW DA-2 (indicates about 75 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 
> outdoors)
> 7.3 mi NW - 760 KFMB - 5kW/50kW DA-N (my strongest at night, indicating about 
> 80-82 dBu on my Tecsun PL-606 outside, day ~70-72 dBu)
> 7.7 mi W - 600 KOGO - 5kW DA-1 IBOC (indicates about 68 dBu on my PL-606)
> 8.3 mi W - 1360 KLSD - 5kW/1kW ND (approx 69-70 dBu daytime on my PL-606)
> 9.3 mi N - two diplexers:
>    1170 KCBQ - 50kW/2.9kW DA-2 (my strongest during the day - ~80-81 dBu on 
>the PL-606; night approx ~63-65 dBu)
>    910 KECR - 5kW DA-2 (approx 64-66 dBu day, 69-71 dBu night on the PL-606)
>  
> The most powerful signal in my local area is that of 77kW/50kW DA-2 XEWW-690, 
> about 32 mi SW of me.  On the PL-606 they're about 68-69 dBu daytime, and 
> several dB less at night.  My nearest GY is 1240 KNSN about 11.2 miles west 
> of me, running 550 watts into a 201.9° tower.  Also diplexing with them is 
> 360W/61W 1040 KURS.  Both stations are pretty much "in the clear" at night 
> here, although nulling them (especially 1240) can reveal chatter underneath.  
> My nearest 50kW clear is 640 KFI at about 99 miles, but the strongest here 
> (at least in the daytime) is 1070 KNX at 111 miles.  My strongest TIS is 1620 
> WNSB415 at about 15 miles SW.  With a longwire (translation: holding it up to 
> a utility pole ground wire) and Select-A-Tenna coupled to the PL-606, it 
> almost sounds like a nearly noise-free local-grade signal.
>  
> Hey anyone have ideas on what inexpensive pocket portables (Sony SRF-59 
> doesn't quite cut it) would be good for groundwave DXing at my grandma's 
> house east of L.A.? ;) Desired daytime targets include, but are not limited 
> to 1100 KFNX Cave Creek AZ, 1290 KKDD San Bernardino CA or KZSB Santa Barbara 
> CA, 1310 XEC Tijuana MX or KIQQ Barstow CA, 1420 XEXX Tijuana MX, 1440 KFNY 
> Riverside CA or KUHL Santa Maria CA  - preferably armchair copy without 
> splatter or blocking/desense. :)
> Oh, I should mention ... a few of the numerous pests near her house include:
> 1430 KMRB - 50kW/9.8kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW
> 1300 KAZN - 23kW/1kW DA-2 - 1/3 mi NW day (diplexes with KMRB), ~3 mi N night 
> (2-site operation), but still sounds strong enough at night like they're 
> using the nearby site instead of the one 3 miles away
> 1110 KDIS - 50kW/20kW DA-2 IBOC - 4.6 mi E
> Local stations I have trouble receiving there with the PL-380 and PL-606 
> include, but are not limited to 1230 KYPA, 1260 KGIL, 1280 KFRN, 1330 KWKW, 
> 1390 KLTX (the best of the bunch), 1460 KTYM, 1480 KVNR, to some extent 1580 
> KBLA, and 1650 KFOX.
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Rick Dau]

Tim, I believe this is the first time I've seen you post on this listserver.  
Nice to have you along for the ride.  :) 
 
Nearest locals for me are the dual threat of KKAR-1290 and KOZN-1620, whose 
xmtr site is at 60th & Harrison in Omaha, about 2 air miles SW of my QTH.  Go 
about another 3 miles south of there, and the next closest monster is KFAB, 
with 50 kw, and all that IBOC 
 
But things are going to get better for me shortly.  End of next week, I move to 
a new location about 2 miles due south of downtown Omaha.  It will be roughly 2 
miles east and 2 1/2 miles north of where I'm at right now, so KKAR, KOZN, and 
KFAB will be lesser headaches, although I will be a bit closer to 
KOIL-1180.  KOTK-1420 and KLNG-1560, whose towers are off South Omaha Bridge 
Road on the south edge of Council Bluffs, won't be any more pests than they are 
now.   
 
73,
Rick Dau 
South Omaha, Nebraska

From: Tim Noonan 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

Here is my list.  I have ten AM stations within 15 miles.

5.1 mi WMCS 1290 Greenfield WI
9.2 mi WSSP 1250 Milwaukee
10.5 mi WOKY 920 Milwaukee
11.1 mi WJTI 1460 West Allis
11.1 mi WGLB 1560 Elm Grove, same site as 1460
12.1 mi WJYI 1340 Milwaukee
12.3 mi WRJN 1400 Racine
12.6 mi WISN 1130 Milwaukee
13.5 mi WNOV 860 Milwaukee
14.6 mi WTMJ 620 Milwaukee

My closest station, though, is a long wave beacon, MK 410, at 2.9 miles.  And 
my closest unheard remains WNTA 1330 Rockford IL, at 73.8 miles.

Good DX, Tim Noonan  dxi...@aol.com  Oak Creek WI
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Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals

[Todd]

My nearest local is the dipole split of WREY 630/ WCTS 1030. With them being 
just about 3 miles SE, WREY has serious over/mod issues and WCTS'S 50kw day pwr 
makes these two the hardest to dx around.

My next closest is 900 KTIS, 1220 KLBB,  and daytimer 740 WDGY at about 10 
miles away. None are an issue, especially at night.

The last one worth mentioning, is 1500 KSTP. Their daytime signal at 15 miles 
really chops up 1490 and 1510. At night though only 250 watts or so comes my 
way.

73 FTS 

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Rick Dau  wrote:

>Tim, I believe this is the first time I've seen you post on this listserver.  
>Nice to have you along for the ride.  :) 
> 
>Nearest locals for me are the dual threat of KKAR-1290 and KOZN-1620, whose 
>xmtr site is at 60th & Harrison in Omaha, about 2 air miles SW of my QTH.  Go 
>about another 3 miles south of there, and the next closest monster is KFAB, 
>with 50 kw, and all that IBOC 
> 
>But things are going to get better for me shortly.  End of next week, I move 
>to a new location about 2 miles due south of downtown Omaha.  It will be 
>roughly 2 miles east and 2 1/2 miles north of where I'm at right now, so KKAR, 
>KOZN, and KFAB will be lesser headaches, although I will be a bit closer to 
>KOIL-1180.  KOTK-1420 and KLNG-1560, whose towers are off South Omaha Bridge 
>Road on the south edge of Council Bluffs, won't be any more pests than they 
>are now.   
> 
>73,
>Rick Dau 
>South Omaha, Nebraska
>
>From: Tim Noonan 
>To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Nearest locals
>
>Here is my list.  I have ten AM stations within 15 miles.
>
>5.1 mi WMCS 1290 Greenfield WI
>9.2 mi WSSP 1250 Milwaukee
>10.5 mi WOKY 920 Milwaukee
>11.1 mi WJTI 1460 West Allis
>11.1 mi WGLB 1560 Elm Grove, same site as 1460
>12.1 mi WJYI 1340 Milwaukee
>12.3 mi WRJN 1400 Racine
>12.6 mi WISN 1130 Milwaukee
>13.5 mi WNOV 860 Milwaukee
>14.6 mi WTMJ 620 Milwaukee
>
>My closest station, though, is a long wave beacon, MK 410, at 2.9 miles.  And 
>my closest unheard remains WNTA 1330 Rockford IL, at 73.8 miles.
>
>Good DX, Tim Noonan  dxi...@aol.com  Oak Creek WI
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