Re: [IRCA] QSL request
On Monday 03 November 2008 23:17, Craig Healy wrote: I have a better audio file of the QSL request. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl1.wav This appears a bit better than the .mp3 from before. If anyone can hear anything in this, please let me know. I think I can hear something, but my ears really aren't all that good. Sounds like this is New (?) WNBH. The (?) is presumably Bedford's, but it's too garbled to be sure. Barry -- Barry McLarnon VE3JF Ottawa, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a better audio file of the QSL request. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl1.wav This appears a bit better than the .mp3 from before. If anyone can hear anything in this, please let me know. I think I can hear something, but my ears really aren't all that good. Craig Healy Providence, RI There's siometh8ing there near the beginning that sounds like an ID. It evcen sounds like W--H, however the second letter doesn't sound like an N to me at all. And it also sounds like he says Newport. Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id [EMAIL PROTECTED] FM: Yamaha T-80 Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
I have a better audio file of the QSL request. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl1.wav This appears a bit better than the .mp3 from before. If anyone can hear anything in this, please let me know. I think I can hear something, but my ears really aren't all that good. Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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We're sitting here waiting in suspense. Which station was this supposed to be? I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Do folks even READ what is posted here ?? - Bob ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
We're sitting here waiting in suspense. Which station was this supposed to be? I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Do folks even READ what is posted here ?? - Bob Aw heck, I don't mind post-conditioning this. (grin) Just didn't want to put an expected call sign in people's ears.. Bottom line is I don't think anyone would accept this as a WNBH-1340 reception proof. I have to notify the person that it's not really OK. I'm hoping maybe he has a longer .mp3 to check. Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Sometimes I wonder... rather then reading the entire conversaiton, they read just the last message. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 6:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're sitting here waiting in suspense. Which station was this supposed to be? I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Do folks even READ what is posted here ?? - Bob ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Hey Craig, Yeah, it's not really that much to work with but with what I came up with on the first play was not far off. WNBS. Once you mentioned the call letters, then I could see/hear the S being an H- power of suggestion..., hi. From the DX end, I would have studied this a little more and probably would have came to the same conclusion. Bottom line though is that I wouldn't send a reception report without more info., unless it was a once in a lifetime opportunity etc. I'm sure a broadcaster or DJ can possibly hear more out of tape if it's a familiar voice or sound perhaps. 73- Doug Pifer Oregon Drake R8B, Kiwa Loop ---Original Message--- From: Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request Sent: Nov 02 '08 07:17 ... Aw heck, I don't mind post-conditioning this. (grin) Just didn't want to put an expected call sign in people's ears.. Bottom line is I don't think anyone would accept this as a WNBH-1340 reception proof. I have to notify the person that it's not really OK. I'm hoping maybe he has a longer .mp3 to check. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Sometimes I've been known to do it... but it depends who wrote the in-between stuff. 73- Doug Pifer Oregon Drake R8B, Kiwa Loop ---Original Message--- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request Sent: Nov 02 '08 12:18 Sometimes I wonder... rather then reading the entire conversaiton, they read just the last message. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
There was an AM not far from me at WABV, that was on a Class C Channel and supposedly had a 5/8 wave tower.. and put the full 1KW into the tower. Glad we could try and help! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Hi Craig, I missed this thread in the beginning. Did any of us help with the ID? (I'm guessing a few didn't catch it since they were asking) I heard Newport then what sounded like WNBS (one letter off- and perhaps one city over, hi.) 73- Doug Pifer Oregon Drake R8B, Kiwa Loop (still in moving boxes) The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
I don't think we were able to hear anything out of it, at least we tried. It's not WNBH as far as we can tell. It's not WNBS, as that is in Murray Kentucky and Newport is 5 hours away. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Craig, I missed this thread in the beginning. Did any of us help with the ID? (I'm guessing a few didn't catch it since they were asking) I heard Newport then what sounded like WNBS (one letter off- and perhaps one city over, hi.) 73- Doug Pifer Oregon Drake R8B, Kiwa Loop (still in moving boxes) The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request There was an AM not far from me at WABV, that was on a Class C Channel and supposedly had a 5/8 wave tower.. and put the full 1KW into the tower. Glad we could try and help! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Steve, I will try an answer your question from a broadcasters point of view. I have a general understanding of RF and FCC stuff. When you see a station's licensed power listed, it is almost always for a 1/4 wave tower. When I was at WQMA 1520, our tower was 150 feet which is 1/4 wave for 1520 Khz. If the tower is taller then 1/4 wave, it is therefore more efficent then it needs to be. If a tower is more efficent (taller then required) then you don't need quite as much power to make the same coverage area that a slightly shorter tower would produce. Most stations elect for 1/4 wave towers, much much cheaper to build. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com P.S. I think Powell would even agree I explained this one well. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Steve Ratzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request There was an AM not far from me at WABV, that was on a Class C Channel and supposedly had a 5/8 wave tower.. and put the full 1KW into the tower. Glad we could try and help! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Hi Paul, Thanks very much; I understand it now. It has all to do with the rules and nothing to do with actual RF transmission and antennas. So that example that was cited was getting more coverage than it was licensed for, apparently, since it used a taller tower without reducing its power. I wonder how much improvement it made. Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request Steve, I will try an answer your question from a broadcasters point of view. I have a general understanding of RF and FCC stuff. When you see a station's licensed power listed, it is almost always for a 1/4 wave tower. When I was at WQMA 1520, our tower was 150 feet which is 1/4 wave for 1520 Khz. If the tower is taller then 1/4 wave, it is therefore more efficent then it needs to be. If a tower is more efficent (taller then required) then you don't need quite as much power to make the same coverage area that a slightly shorter tower would produce. Most stations elect for 1/4 wave towers, much much cheaper to build. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com P.S. I think Powell would even agree I explained this one well. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Steve Ratzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request There was an AM not far from me at WABV, that was on a Class C Channel and supposedly had a 5/8 wave tower.. and put the full 1KW into the tower. Glad we could try and help! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:36 AM, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The station that received the QSL is WNBH-1340 in New Bedford, MA. The report came from Finland. There have been a few reports from Scandinavia in the past few years. WNBH is a bit of an anomoly in that it has a tall tower, yet puts the full kilowatt into in. No power cutback to make it an equivalent kilowatt/quarter wave tower. On vacation on Monhegan Island off the coast of Maine I could hear WNBH if I nulled the other pests. It does get out well. Thanks to all for the ear work! Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
That station wasn't getting more coverage then it was licensed for, exactly. WNBH 1340 is right near the water in New Bedford and where Craig heard it in Maine was near the water.. and obviously AM travels amazingly well over water. I heard all of the New York Ams almost clear as day in Dover, NH around 4pm one day. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Steve Ratzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Paul, Thanks very much; I understand it now. It has all to do with the rules and nothing to do with actual RF transmission and antennas. So that example that was cited was getting more coverage than it was licensed for, apparently, since it used a taller tower without reducing its power. I wonder how much improvement it made. Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request Steve, I will try an answer your question from a broadcasters point of view. I have a general understanding of RF and FCC stuff. When you see a station's licensed power listed, it is almost always for a 1/4 wave tower. When I was at WQMA 1520, our tower was 150 feet which is 1/4 wave for 1520 Khz. If the tower is taller then 1/4 wave, it is therefore more efficent then it needs to be. If a tower is more efficent (taller then required) then you don't need quite as much power to make the same coverage area that a slightly shorter tower would produce. Most stations elect for 1/4 wave towers, much much cheaper to build. Paul Walker www.onairdj.com P.S. I think Powell would even agree I explained this one well. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Steve Ratzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Steve - Original Message - From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request There was an AM not far from me at WABV, that was on a Class C Channel and supposedly had a 5/8 wave tower.. and put the full 1KW into the tower. Glad we could try and help! Paul Walker www.onairdj.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] qsl request
Sounds like .15-40 wmb ?? or wm(n) b (v) last lettter not as clear or is it wadk?? ken scotland http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/ ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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WMMB is on 1240 and WMMV is on 1350.. this was for a clip on 1340. Paul On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Ken Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like .15-40 wmb ?? or wm(n) b (v) last lettter not as clear or is it wadk?? ken scotland http://www.ayrshirehistory.eu/tadx/ ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Different classes of stations are required to have a minimum efficiency from their tower. Put a kilowatt in and the signal strength at a kilometer away should be a specific number or more. Clear channel stations have the highest minimum. Regionals are lower. Locals like 1340 are the least. When a station is licensed at a specific power and tower height (efficiency) it's given an effective radiated power. When a station puts a kilowatt into a 5/8 wave tower it is about the same as putting 3+ kilowatts into a 1/4 wave tower. So, many times a station using a taller tower has to reduce transmitter output to keep the coverage the same. One of my clients on 1110 was originally a kilowatt non-directional into a 1/4 wave tower. They put in a much taller tower to add an FM. So, they had to drop transmitter power to around 680 watts. Same coverage on groundwave. 5/8 wave is the best height for a local station that isn't looking for coverage beyond 40 miles or so. There is a secondary high-angle lobe that comes back down from skywave and causes interference about 70 miles out. That's why the sweet spot for tower height for the big guns is a bit over half wave, 195°. Low band stations can reach the minimum with a shorter tower. For example, local WDDZ-550 has 1/6 wave towers but still meets the groundwave efficiency requirements. There are other problems with short towers, but that's a subject for another chat. WNBH is lucky in that they are grandfathered in for a full kilowatt into a tower that's effectively around a half wave. For a local channel station, they do cover well. And the fact that they are not far from the coastline gives some pretty interesting DX reports now and then. As I mentioned, this is the third report from Scandinavia in the past couple of years. The previous two were quite easily identified. Probably have the .mp3 of those around somewhere. Yeah, I probably ought to schedule some sort of DX test out of that station. Let me see what I can do... Again, thanks to all for the help. My ears aren't anywhere as good as they used to be... Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Hi Craig, Thanks for the good technical info. Steve - Original Message - From: Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request As an AM TX and general domestic AM dummy, what does all this mean, about not being able to put a 1kW signal into some type of tower? What does the power and or tower have to do with not being able to feed full power into the antenna? Different classes of stations are required to have a minimum efficiency from their tower. Put a kilowatt in and the signal strength at a kilometer away should be a specific number or more. Clear channel stations have the highest minimum. Regionals are lower. Locals like 1340 are the least. When a station is licensed at a specific power and tower height (efficiency) it's given an effective radiated power. When a station puts a kilowatt into a 5/8 wave tower it is about the same as putting 3+ kilowatts into a 1/4 wave tower. So, many times a station using a taller tower has to reduce transmitter output to keep the coverage the same. One of my clients on 1110 was originally a kilowatt non-directional into a 1/4 wave tower. They put in a much taller tower to add an FM. So, they had to drop transmitter power to around 680 watts. Same coverage on groundwave. 5/8 wave is the best height for a local station that isn't looking for coverage beyond 40 miles or so. There is a secondary high-angle lobe that comes back down from skywave and causes interference about 70 miles out. That's why the sweet spot for tower height for the big guns is a bit over half wave, 195°. Low band stations can reach the minimum with a shorter tower. For example, local WDDZ-550 has 1/6 wave towers but still meets the groundwave efficiency requirements. There are other problems with short towers, but that's a subject for another chat. WNBH is lucky in that they are grandfathered in for a full kilowatt into a tower that's effectively around a half wave. For a local channel station, they do cover well. And the fact that they are not far from the coastline gives some pretty interesting DX reports now and then. As I mentioned, this is the third report from Scandinavia in the past couple of years. The previous two were quite easily identified. Probably have the .mp3 of those around somewhere. Yeah, I probably ought to schedule some sort of DX test out of that station. Let me see what I can do... Again, thanks to all for the help. My ears aren't anywhere as good as they used to be... Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Craig We're sitting here waiting in suspense. Which station was this supposed to be? Bruce Craig Healy wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Yeah, what station was the QSL SUPPOSED to be for? Paul Walker www.onairdj.com On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Bruce Portzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig We're sitting here waiting in suspense. Which station was this supposed to be? Bruce Craig Healy wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.onairdj.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] QSL request
I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ I honestly don't think there's anything there. The clip is too short for the poor quality of it. Only excuse for that might be that the clip got truncated and missed whatever ID'able material there might have been. Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id [EMAIL PROTECTED] FM: Yamaha T-80 Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
My ears ain't good enough here. - Original Message - From: Russ Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] QSL request --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ I honestly don't think there's anything there. The clip is too short for the poor quality of it. Only excuse for that might be that the clip got truncated and missed whatever ID'able material there might have been. Russ Edmunds Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL ) [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia] 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id [EMAIL PROTECTED] FM: Yamaha T-80 Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15' AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Craig, I can't hear a darn thing. Paul On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Craig Healy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 Craig Healy Providence, RI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL request
Craig I can hear a W really well, but the rest is a bit garbled: WMBR, WNVI, or something along those lines maybe Bruce Craig Healy wrote: I got a QSL request today for one of my client stations. Included was an .mp3 file. I've listened to it a number of times but can't pull an ID out. Would those of you who have better hearing than me take a listen and let me know what you can understand? If this person really has heard the station, I would like to send a QSL. I haven't mentioned the call letters, as I don't want to pre-condition this. Here's a link. The file is only about six seconds and not very large. http://www.am-dx.com/qsl.mp3 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] QSL Request from WABV 1590 Recieved.. AND.. Replied to!
Thanks Paul. I am indeed honored. I'll be looking for the envelope and make sure I extract all the goodies. I do appreciate your kindness, and also the test. 73s, Jim Pogue Memphis, TN -- Original message -- From: Paul B. Walker, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got a QSL Request from Jim Pogue of Memphis, Tennessee on Thursday February 14th, 2008 for WABV- AM 1590 Abbeville, South Carolina. The Reception report is for 12:29 AM on February 8, 2008 during our test that night from 12:01AM to 1:30AM Eastern Standard Time. Jim included details on paper and enclosed a Pocket CD with a 1 minute audio recording A QSL Verification Letter will be going out Friday, February 15th 2008 containing a verification letter with a few station pictures, along with about half a dozen other little goodies in the envelope (Look carefully for them Jim, some of them are small) Jim's QSL was QSL Number One under my tenure here at WABV! Sincerely, -- Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.walkerbroadcasting.com www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting P.S. Jim you relaly didn't HAVE to put that extra 2 lines concerning all my extra titles which describe my responsibilities ;) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] QSL Request from WABV 1590 Recieved.. AND.. Replied to!
I got a QSL Request from Jim Pogue of Memphis, Tennessee on Thursday February 14th, 2008 for WABV- AM 1590 Abbeville, South Carolina. The Reception report is for 12:29 AM on February 8, 2008 during our test that night from 12:01AM to 1:30AM Eastern Standard Time. Jim included details on paper and enclosed a Pocket CD with a 1 minute audio recording A QSL Verification Letter will be going out Friday, February 15th 2008 containing a verification letter with a few station pictures, along with about half a dozen other little goodies in the envelope (Look carefully for them Jim, some of them are small) Jim's QSL was QSL Number One under my tenure here at WABV! Sincerely, -- Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.walkerbroadcasting.com www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting P.S. Jim you relaly didn't HAVE to put that extra 2 lines concerning all my extra titles which describe my responsibilities ;) ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
