Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-04 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Yes, that's true.

But there is an IF filter for FM that could be changed out


On Jan 4, 2008 3:43 PM, Gil Stacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike,
> Is it accurate to say that the filter change does not affect FM operation?
> Gil

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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-04 Thread Gil Stacy
Mike,
Is it accurate to say that the filter change does not affect FM operation?
Gil
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-04 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Hi Les, $100 would be way too much.

If you can locate a suitable filter and send it and the radio to me,
I'll do it for free (um.. plus shipping).

I've been looking around for a source of those ceramic filters, but
they don't seem to be readily available. I've sent off a request to
RadioLabs.com for a price quote, though. They service Sangean radios,
so I figure they gotta have replacement parts, if they're willing to
sell 'em.

If you can find a SFP450I or a SFP450J from a dead Sangean (or radio
shack, or other) radio, that would be what we need.
I currently have a SFR450K in my radio, but it's so narrow that the
audio sounds a bit muffled.

On Jan 4, 2008 1:31 PM, Les Rayburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mesa Mike,
>
> Any chance you'd be willing to perform this mod for hire? Like some on the
> list, my eyes are not what they used to be...but I'd love to
> improve my SRF-37V.
>
> Would $100 bucks cover it?


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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-04 Thread Les Rayburn
Mesa Mike,

Any chance you'd be willing to perform this mod for hire? Like some on the 
list, my eyes are not what they used to be...but I'd love to
improve my SRF-37V.

Would $100 bucks cover it?


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Subject: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

> This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
> poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.
>
> It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
> SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
> I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
> course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
> Toshiba part, though.
>
> Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
> next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
> ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.
>
> The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
> KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
> door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.
>
> For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
> SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
> sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.
>
> Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
> the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
> two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
> the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
> to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
> couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
> order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
> marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
> filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
> to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
> replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
> it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
> worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
> could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
> no need for that.
>
>
> NOW I have a sensitive, selective little DX monster that can switch to
> 9kHz tuning!
> I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!
>
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V (Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM)

2008-01-02 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- "John H. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hey, Mike...
> 
> Great work on the improved selectivity of the M37V I'm sure that 
> it will qualify as an Ultralight and there are VERY FEW record 
> holders in the "Super Modified" class right now.  Go to work with 
> that hummer and keep good records for a week or ten days until we can
> 
> sort this out... You got a Tiger By The Tail... and one in the Tank,
> too!
> 
> 


I for one would seriously consider purchasing a suitably-modified
SRF-M37V. I haven't been able to work on miniature circuits since I
started needing bifocals over ten years ago, so I wouldn't think of
trying it myself.

I figure if I'm going to do this ultralight thing, I might as well jump
in with both feet. 



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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V (Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM)

2008-01-02 Thread John H. Bryant


Hey, Mike...

Great work on the improved selectivity of the M37V I'm sure that 
it will qualify as an Ultralight and there are VERY FEW record 
holders in the "Super Modified" class right now.  Go to work with 
that hummer and keep good records for a week or ten days until we can 
sort this out... You got a Tiger By The Tail... and one in the Tank, too!


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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread D1028Gary
Mesa Mike,
 
 This is a phenomenal improvement that will make a  huge difference in 
the SRF-M37V's DX capability!  During the recent (2007)  Shootout, the SRF-M37V 
would have been the clear winner except for its  selectivity issue.  Your 
modification provides a method for this highly  sensitive and digitally 
advanced 
unit to truly become a ultra-mean DX  Machine.
 
 On behalf of the deeply appreciative Ultralight  Tech Trio (Steve, Nick 
and I), may I express our deepest appreciation for your  outstanding 
contribution to the Ultralight DX cause.  Now, start tearing up  the bands with 
your 
tiny little terror!
 
 73,  Gary 
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Hi Bert

The hard part eill be obtaining a ceramic filter, I think.
Anybody know where to buy 450 kHz ceramic filters?

On Jan 2, 2008 4:33 PM, Ira Elbert New, III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> What will you charge for the technically inept amongst us to render this 
> service? Must we provide our own filters too?!?!? Here's hoping for a 
> cheerful answer...

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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
Gil,

I think that's probably too big to fit.

On Jan 2, 2008 4:53 PM, Gil Stacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bert,
> The cost of my filter was $5 more than the cost of an SRF59.  
> Mike,
> My filter is a five pin filter, three pins ground and input and out put
> pins.  I'd probably lay it on its side as this will give a height of .25".
> The length is .375" and about .375" wide.  Any room inside the boards for
> this one?
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

Perhaps then, I will dance with what brung me...


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> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:53:06 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V
> 
> Bert,
> The cost of my filter was $5 more than the cost of an SRF59.  
> Mike,
> My filter is a five pin filter, three pins ground and input and out put
> pins.  I'd probably lay it on its side as this will give a height of .25".
> The length is .375" and about .375" wide.  Any room inside the boards for
> this one?
> Gil
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Gil Stacy
Bert,
The cost of my filter was $5 more than the cost of an SRF59.  
Mike,
My filter is a five pin filter, three pins ground and input and out put
pins.  I'd probably lay it on its side as this will give a height of .25".
The length is .375" and about .375" wide.  Any room inside the boards for
this one?
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Ira Elbert New, III

What will you charge for the technically inept amongst us to render this 
service? Must we provide our own filters too?!?!? Here's hoping for a cheerful 
answer...

Bert New
Watkinsville, Georgia
Proudly Serving You Since 1964!


> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:19:35 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V
> 
> This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
> poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.
> 
> It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
> SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
> I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
> course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
> Toshiba part, though.
> 
> Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
> next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
> ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.
> 
> The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
> KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
> door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.
> 
> For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
> SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
> sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.
> 
> Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
> the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
> two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
> the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
> to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
> couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
> order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
> marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
> filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
> to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
> replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
> it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
> worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
> could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
> no need for that.
> 
> 
> NOW I have a sensitive, selective little DX monster that can switch to
> 9kHz tuning!
> I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!
> 
> -- 
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> LA de NM
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
If it's for a 450 kHz IF, go ahead and try it if it's not too big.
The one I used was the same size as a modern Murata CFULA series ceramic filter.




On Jan 2, 2008 3:29 PM, Gil Stacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike,
> That's good news.  I have a spare Kiwa 6.2 kHz filter for my FRG-7.  Any
> reason not to use it??
> 73, Gil
>
>
>
> On 1/2/08, Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
> > poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.
> >
> > It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
> > SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
> > I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
> > course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
> > Toshiba part, though.
> >
> > Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
> > next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
> > ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.
> >
> > The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
> > KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
> > door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.
> >
> > For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
> > SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
> > sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.
> >
> > Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
> > the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
> > two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
> > the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
> > to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
> > couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
> > order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
> > marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
> > filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
> > to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
> > replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
> > it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
> > worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
> > could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
> > no need for that.
> >
> >
> > NOW I have a sensitive, selective little DX monster that can switch to
> > 9kHz tuning!
> > I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!
> >
> > --
> > Mesa Mike
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
If it's for a 450 kHz IF, go ahead and try it if it's not too big.
The one I used was the same size as a modern Murata CFULA series

On Jan 2, 2008 3:29 PM, Gil Stacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike,
> That's good news.  I have a spare Kiwa 6.2 kHz filter for my FRG-7.  Any
> reason not to use it??
> 73, Gil
>
>
>
> On 1/2/08, Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
> > poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.
> >
> > It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
> > SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
> > I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
> > course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
> > Toshiba part, though.
> >
> > Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
> > next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
> > ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.
> >
> > The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
> > KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
> > door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.
> >
> > For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
> > SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
> > sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.
> >
> > Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
> > the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
> > two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
> > the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
> > to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
> > couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
> > order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
> > marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
> > filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
> > to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
> > replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
> > it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
> > worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
> > could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
> > no need for that.
> >
> >
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> > 9kHz tuning!
> > I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!
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Re: [IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Gil Stacy
Mike,
That's good news.  I have a spare Kiwa 6.2 kHz filter for my FRG-7.  Any
reason not to use it??
73, Gil


On 1/2/08, Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
> poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.
>
> It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
> SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
> I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
> course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
> Toshiba part, though.
>
> Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
> next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
> ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.
>
> The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
> KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
> door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.
>
> For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
> SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
> sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.
>
> Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
> the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
> two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
> the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
> to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
> couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
> order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
> marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
> filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
> to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
> replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
> it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
> worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
> could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
> no need for that.
>
>
> NOW I have a sensitive, selective little DX monster that can switch to
> 9kHz tuning!
> I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!
>
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[IRCA] Vast selectivity improvement for my SRF-M37V

2008-01-02 Thread Mike Westfall, Lost Almost NM
This is for you experimenters out there that are complaining about the
poor selectivity of the Sony SRF-M37V Walkman mighty-mite ultralight.

It turns out that the SRF-M37V does not use the same chip as the
SRF-59. I don't know where I ever got the idea that it did.
I took my SRF-M37V apart and there is a TA737A5 at its heart. Of
course, I couldn't find a datasheet anywhere for it. I guess it's a
Toshiba part, though.

Anyway, there is a small 450 kHz ceramic filter on the circuit card
next to the main chip, which I unsoldered and replaced with a SFP450I
ceramic filter from a dead DX-440 that I had laying around.

The results were simply staggering! I can now receive the very weak
KABR on 1500 kHz, despite the fact that my local KRSN is right next
door on 1490!  Impossible to do on my car radio, even!.

For even more selectivity, I might have tried to use the narrower
SFR450K from the same DX-440, but it's a little bigger, and wasn't
sure it would fit, but the filter I used gives great selectivity.

Taking the radio apart isn't too hard. After removing the four screws,
the case pops right apart, without using fingernails, etc. There are
two circuit boards inside, one for the keyboard/microcontroller, and
the other for all the analog stuff. Yoiu have to unsolder on red wire
to get the two to unfold from each other. Then you have to unsolder a
couple spots on a copper foil shield which is covering the TA737A5 in
order to get to the solder pads for the ceramic filter, which is
marked "50J". Remove the the filter and clean out the holes. The new
filter has to be laid on its side, and small wires run from it's pins
to the holes where the old fiter was  (no, it's not a drop-in
replacement!). AFter you fold the two circuit boards back together,
it's in there nice and cozy, and won;t be going anywhere. If you're
worried about movement weakening and breaking your wires, I guess you
could dab some RTV under the new filter to hold it in place, but I saw
no need for that.


NOW I have a sensitive, selective little DX monster that can switch to
9kHz tuning!
I can't wait to try it with my RS Loop later!

-- 
Mesa Mike
LA de NM
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