Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
Doesn't the FCC come in to the picture? I see the odd bit of gear from the USA with some kind of meets FCC standard XYZetc. message on the box. Last year I had a pulse from an electric fence. It went after a couple of months. I do hope it's a faulty piece of gear at your neighbours house which will go kaput before the new season starts in the fall hi! Best wishes Barry :-) --- On Sun, 26/6/11, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com, a...@nrcdxas.org Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2011, 16:05 The issue is the houses are close on my West side and it radiates right into my house wiring. Oh yes, matching transformers, isolation transformers. Infact I tried running the R8 off 12v last night and the noise was just as loud. If I cut the main power to the house, the noise goes down. I hate to think I will have to DX that way the rest of my life. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
I don't know that the FCC pays any attention to this anymore. Considering the RF noise that is generated by CFL lighting, fluorescent lighting (across the board), Sharper Image (and other electrostatic) air cleaners, I think the other cheek has been turned in unimaginable ways. I am currently isolating a source of noise that starts every week day at 0400, and on the weekend at 0500 that I believe is coming from the new smart meters that the utility is using. Who knows what the result will be. On the house wiring topic specifically, the last house that I lived in was a electrical mess. I could not listen to AM radio inside the house, and walked around with a battery-powered Grundig to home in on the noise source. The main electrical panel was markedly warm. I called the utility, and they said there was strong arcing inside, but it was the responsibility of the owner. The owner didn't care at all, because he hoped it would burn and he could use insurance money to put up a custom home on the huge lot. If the noise is coming from the house, you might be stuck, If its wiring going to the house, the utility may have responsibility to repair it. Mike Hawkins On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:24 PM, BARRY DAVIES barry.davie...@btopenworld.com wrote: Doesn't the FCC come in to the picture? I see the odd bit of gear from the USA with some kind of meets FCC standard XYZetc. message on the box. Last year I had a pulse from an electric fence. It went after a couple of months. I do hope it's a faulty piece of gear at your neighbours house which will go kaput before the new season starts in the fall hi! Best wishes Barry :-) --- On Sun, 26/6/11, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com, a...@nrcdxas.org Cc: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Sunday, 26 June, 2011, 16:05 The issue is the houses are close on my West side and it radiates right into my house wiring. Oh yes, matching transformers, isolation transformers. Infact I tried running the R8 off 12v last night and the noise was just as loud. If I cut the main power to the house, the noise goes down. I hate to think I will have to DX that way the rest of my life. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
We just had a smart meter added to my gas meter. I'm curious to see if it causes more noise but how to isolate? Maybe I should wrap it in aluminum foil! The noise floor has increased around here in the past couple years. Shortwave is suffering. I tried LW and I hear few beacons but lots of noise. MW has lots of noise between the stations that you know is across the band. Mike, you're right about air cleaners. My wife bought a couple (Sharper Image, Oreck) and they all get turned off when the radio is on. We got a Wii for Christmas and it needs to be unplugged! Just about everything that gets plugged in now is a noise generator. Martin Foltz Mission Viejo CA Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:01:39 -0700 From: Mike Hawkins To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?) I don't know that the FCC pays any attention to this anymore. Considering the RF noise that is generated by CFL lighting, fluorescent lighting (across the board), Sharper Image (and other electrostatic) air cleaners, I think the other cheek has been turned in unimaginable ways. I am currently isolating a source of noise that starts every week day at 0400, and on the weekend at 0500 that I believe is coming from the new smart meters that the utility is using. Who knows what the result will be. On the house wiring topic specifically, the last house that I lived in was a electrical mess. I could not listen to AM radio inside the house, and walked around with a battery-powered Grundig to home in on the noise source. The main electrical panel was markedly warm. I called the utility, and they said there was strong arcing inside, but it was the responsibility of the owner. The owner didn't care at all, because he hoped it would burn and he could use insurance money to put up a custom home on the huge lot. If the noise is coming from the house, you might be stuck, If its wiring going to the house, the utility may have responsibility to repair it. Mike Hawkins ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
Mike Hawkins michael.d.hawk...@gmail.com wrote: walked around with a battery-powered Grundig to home in on the noise source. The main electrical panel was markedly warm. I called the utility, and they said there was strong arcing inside, but it was the responsibility of the owner. The owner didn't care at all, because he hoped it would burn and he could use insurance money to put up a custom home on the huge lot. Don't they call this contributory negligence, perhaps insurance fraud. IF THIS HAPPENED and the insurance company knew of it, I doubt they would pay out on it. Not hard to imagine someone dying because of this. Yeah he could get a custom home. Maybe 3 or 4 stories, all brick(to keep out burglars living near you), plenty of steel bars in your door (think Faraday cage...), scenic vistas of San Francisco Bay, meals delivered to your front door daily ... Keep records of this. - Bob ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
The FCC in the U.S. is pretty much useless these days. There is so much QRN produced by electronic gadgets so even if the FCC had more power and was out there like they were 40 years ago, they would need a separate group just to ride herd on the noise issues. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] noise issue (What about the FCC?)
I think my gas meter is one of those smart meters too, but I don't believe mine causes any QRN. At least I don't believe so. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
