Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
Yesterday we ran a news story about the anniversary, with comments from somebody from the local VFW post etc. For background audio I pulled out some of the old radio broadcasts from 12/7/41. On the CBS World News Roundup that ran that afternoon, anchor John Daly mentions that, while one of their via-shortwave reports was airing, he just got off the phone with somebody from their Honolulu affiliate KGMB who was giving him a verbal report on what they were seeing/hearing in Honolulu etc. I also have a rather hard-to-hear but rather amusing clip of some poor guy up on the roof at KGU, TRYING to stay on the line and do a live report on NBC, and the operator breaks in trying to cut him off because the phone line is needed for "emergency traffic"... "Hey, but I'm on the line to New York here!!" Didn't matter... she pulled the plug, leaving the NBC newscaster high and dry... "one moment please!" is all he can manage. Guess he went back to fill music--that's what the clip starts with. Randy Stewart KSMU Springfield MO ORIGINAL MESSAGE-- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 01:26:33 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Martin) Subject: Re: [IRCA] Just another day? To: irca@hard-core-dx.com (Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Mike, According to Chuck Boehnke, Dec 7th, KGMB was indeed on the air during the bombing. However they signed off right after, but were told to return to the air to give out emergency info. Both KGU and KGMB returned to the air. Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
Mike, According to Chuck Boehnke, Dec 7th, KGMB was indeed on the air during the bombing. However they signed off right after, but were told to return to the air to give out emergency info. Both KGU and KGMB returned to the air. Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
Bruce, I received a long e mail from Chuck Boehnke back in 2002 talking about being near Pearl Harbor when the Japanese planes flew over. His father was in the military and they were stationed near Pearl Harbor. The people thought those were US planes. Infact I just dug out the e mail from Chuck yesterday. It is quite the story. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
Bruce- It is well know that the Jap pilots also used KGMB to find Oahu. In fact the Japs flown by the B-17's but B-17's could nothing about it as all the guns had been removed from the plans so as to carry more fuel to make the hop to Hawaii. Photo's in the navy archives show this. Willis - Original Message - From: "Bruce Portzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Just another day? > From what I've been told, back before WW2 the US government would pay > KGMB to stay on all night whenever military planes were expected to > arrive from the mainland. That way, the aircraft crews could use their > direction finding equipment to home in on Oahu, and not fly past the > island. > > On the night of December 6-7, 1941, a fleet of B-17s was being ferried > across the Pacific to the Philippines and was scheduled to make a > refueling stop at Pearl Harbor, so KGMB was on all night. Judging from > what happened, I'd say the B-17s weren't the only aircraft DFing on KGMB. > > Bruce > > Mike McKenna wrote: > > December 7, 1941. --- Honolulu, Hawaii. Very early Sunday morning. KGU 750 Khz -- operating with 2,500 watts and sharing time with co-channel station WJR. KGU is then owned by the Advertiser Publishing Company, Ltd. and a NBC carrier. The only other broadcast station in Honolulu is KGMB on 1320 khz with 1,000 watts fulltime with a 330 foot Bethleham tower located on Kapiolani Blvd using all RCA equipment. KGMB carrys both CBS and MBS programming and is owned by the Hawaiian Broadcasting System, Ltd. KGMB was granted a CP: to move to 590 Khz and increase power to 5 KW -- but still remains on the 1320 channel. Just these two broadcast stations in Honolulu. The owners of KGMB also operate KHBC on 1200 khz with 250 watts fulltime from Hilo, using a 178 foot wer. -- Station KTOH is still just a construction permit on 1500 Khz at Lihue, Hawaii with 250 watts days and 100 watts nights and will use a 150 foot tall Lehigh tower. Just an early > > Sunday morning. MTM > > > > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
From what I've been told, back before WW2 the US government would pay KGMB to stay on all night whenever military planes were expected to arrive from the mainland. That way, the aircraft crews could use their direction finding equipment to home in on Oahu, and not fly past the island. On the night of December 6-7, 1941, a fleet of B-17s was being ferried across the Pacific to the Philippines and was scheduled to make a refueling stop at Pearl Harbor, so KGMB was on all night. Judging from what happened, I'd say the B-17s weren't the only aircraft DFing on KGMB. Bruce Mike McKenna wrote: > December 7, 1941. --- Honolulu, Hawaii. Very early Sunday morning. > KGU 750 Khz -- operating with 2,500 watts and sharing time with > co-channel station WJR. KGU is then owned by the Advertiser Publishing > Company, Ltd. and a NBC carrier. The only other broadcast station in > Honolulu is KGMB on 1320 khz with 1,000 watts fulltime with a 330 foot > Bethleham tower located on Kapiolani Blvd using all RCA equipment. KGMB > carrys both CBS and MBS programming and is owned by the Hawaiian Broadcasting > System, Ltd. KGMB was granted a CP: to move to 590 Khz and increase power to > 5 KW -- but still remains on the 1320 channel. Just these two broadcast > stations in Honolulu. The owners of KGMB also operate KHBC on 1200 khz with > 250 watts fulltime from Hilo, using a 178 foot tower. -- Station KTOH is > still just a construction permit on 1500 Khz at Lihue, Hawaii with 250 watts > days and 100 watts nights and will use a 150 foot tall Lehigh tower. Just > an early > Sunday morning. MTM > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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And they were all 7 volt filaments; had silver tops and if you were not careful you would rub the tube number off the top. My 1954 Chevy had those type of tubes in it. Willis - Original Message - From: "Powell E. Way III W4OPW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Just another day? > > --- willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Mike- > > Yes they had cars and the cars had radios. They used > > metal covered tubes and > > the tubes were black, all had 6 volt filaments. > > That was until Motorola and Sylvania came out with > loktal tubes. Glass tubes with snap in lock in base. > Philco loved to use them in their consumer radios. > > Powell > > ! > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
I'm gratified, by all the car radio history, that I didn't have to repudiate my memory of hearing Freddy Martin's music on the road on Dec. 7, 1941. And I'm happy to have inadvertantly launched an interesting and entertaining thread! I suppose my most interesting car radio experience came in the summer of 1976 when my wife and I were driving south from Tucson and found an FM signal that was playing my kind of music. It reminded me, I thought, of what I had heard in the '50s from KXL-750 in Portland. Turned out to be some bodacious e-skip, and KXL on FM held steady for more than an hour. (I don't DX when the wife is in the car.) Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
--- willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mike- > Yes they had cars and the cars had radios. They used > metal covered tubes and > the tubes were black, all had 6 volt filaments. That was until Motorola and Sylvania came out with loktal tubes. Glass tubes with snap in lock in base. Philco loved to use them in their consumer radios. Powell ! ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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7 December is famous for two things, Pearl Harbor and it is also the same date I joined the navy. (Not in 1941). As a philatelist I collect U.S. navy ship cancels. I almost have all the ships that were at Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. I created an exhibit and displayed them in September 2006, at a stamp show in Atlanta. I won 3 awards. Willis ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
Mike wrote- > Did they have car radios in 1941? In those pre-transistor days, the radio > must have taken up half the dashboard and the tubes would have kept the > car warm in winter. > > BTW, Canada had been involved in WWII for more than two years before Pearl > Harbor. Hi Mike- Yes they had cars and the cars had radios. They used metal covered tubes and the tubes were black, all had 6 volt filaments. The world even had radar, the battleship U.S.S. TEXAS was one of the first to have radar. They even had television, with football and baseball games. Channel 2 and 4 in New York City came on the air on 4 July 1941. Yes, the world really hasn't changed much since 1940. And no, the radio's did not take up have the dash board, true they were bigger than today radio's but they had to be. They had to have a vibrator and 0Z4 to create the AC to run the filaments. BUT, audio quality was so-o-o-o much better than today's car radio's. If you were not around then you missed a lot of fun. Willis Old fort, TN ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
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--- Mike Brooker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did they have car radios in 1941? In those > pre-transistor days, the radio > must have taken up half the dashboard and the tubes > would have kept the car warm in winter. The whole middle part of the dash and under dash. My grandmother's 1947 Studebaker had a radio with 14 tubes and push pull audio. 6 volt system and it drew 20 amps. That was one of the best car radios I ever heard. Powell ! ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
> I always associate this day with Freddy Martin's recording of "Tonight We > Love," because it was on the car radio when my family had driven to the > Oregon Coast. Then we heard the news bulletins. I was 6 years old. > > I suppose this would be on topic if I could remember the station we were > listening to ... probably KGW-620, since there wasn't much radio north of > Marshfield (now Coos Bay) or south of Astoria on the coast. > Did they have car radios in 1941? In those pre-transistor days, the radio must have taken up half the dashboard and the tubes would have kept the car warm in winter. BTW, Canada had been involved in WWII for more than two years before Pearl Harbor. 73 Mike Brooker Toronto, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
December 7, 1941. --- Honolulu, Hawaii. Very early Sunday morning. KGU 750 Khz -- operating with 2,500 watts and sharing time with co-channel station WJR. KGU is then owned by the Advertiser Publishing Company, Ltd. and a NBC carrier. The only other broadcast station in Honolulu is KGMB on 1320 khz with 1,000 watts fulltime with a 330 foot Bethleham tower located on Kapiolani Blvd using all RCA equipment. KGMB carrys both CBS and MBS programming and is owned by the Hawaiian Broadcasting System, Ltd. KGMB was granted a CP: to move to 590 Khz and increase power to 5 KW -- but still remains on the 1320 channel. Just these two broadcast stations in Honolulu. The owners of KGMB also operate KHBC on 1200 khz with 250 watts fulltime from Hilo, using a 178 foot tower. -- Station KTOH is still just a construction permit on 1500 Khz at Lihue, Hawaii with 250 watts days and 100 watts nights and will use a 150 foot tall Lehigh tower. Just an early Sunday morning. MTM ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Just another day?
I always associate this day with Freddy Martin's recording of "Tonight We Love," because it was on the car radio when my family had driven to the Oregon Coast. Then we heard the news bulletins. I was 6 years old. I suppose this would be on topic if I could remember the station we were listening to ... probably KGW-620, since there wasn't much radio north of Marshfield (now Coos Bay) or south of Astoria on the coast. Qal R. Mann, Krumudgeon ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
