Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
I see from Bruce Portzer's post with the coordinates, that they aren't far from 
their old location. 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:09:55 -0800
> From: walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> The proposed temporary longwire site fort KARR 1460 is about 1/4 mile
> southeast of the  boundries of Kirkland. One thing I know from having had
> to file an STA myself years ago is the STA signal cant extend beyond
> licensed contours. Tthis site is about 1 mile south of the original
> licensed site.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> > Mark,
> >
> > These are Temp time antennas, but I wonder if the FCC would allow a
> > permanent wire antenna like the T antennas?
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: ma...@durenberger.com
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:42:59 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> > >
> > > Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early
> > > 1930's :-))
> > >
> > > Mark Durenberger
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Patrick Martin
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
> > > To: IRCA
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> > >
> > > I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as
> > diplexing,
> > > otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until
> > they
> > > can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the
> > > FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are
> > several
> > > other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in
> > the
> > > valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin
> > > Seaside OR
> > > KGED QSL Manager
> > >
> > > > From: wb6...@gmail.com
> > > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
> > > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> > > >
> > > > This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land
> > > > developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a
> > ton of
> > > > money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs
> > are
> > > > granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the
> > > > licensee.
> > > >
> > > >
> > https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
> > > >
> > > > The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including
> > that
> > > > they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10
> > wavelength.
> > > > Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of
> > > > reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations
> > can
> > > > get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has
> > granted a
> > > > > special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle
> > > > > Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire
> > of
> > > > > approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at
> > > > > 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their
> > > > > lease of the transmitter site.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot
> > > > > wire?
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > > Patrick
> > > > >
> > > > > Patrick Martin
> > > > > Seaside OR
> > > > > KGED QSL Manager
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> > > > 

Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
That would work. Once they get back on, I'll see if I have any luck re-logging 
them.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: wb6...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 18:00:10 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> The FCC has licensed a number of stations using short manufactured fiberglass 
> antennas. One company has 35, 75 and 85 foot versions. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> > On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > 
> > Mark,
> > 
> > These are Temp time antennas, but I wonder if the FCC would allow a 
> > permanent wire antenna like the T antennas? 
> > 
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> > 
> >> From: ma...@durenberger.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:42:59 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >> 
> >> Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early 
> >> 1930's :-))
> >> 
> >> Mark Durenberger
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- 
> >> From: Patrick Martin
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
> >> To: IRCA
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >> 
> >> I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as 
> >> diplexing, 
> >> otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until 
> >> they 
> >> can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the 
> >> FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are 
> >> several 
> >> other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in 
> >> the 
> >> valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.
> >> 
> >> Patrick Martin
> >> Seaside OR
> >> KGED QSL Manager
> >> 
> >>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
> >>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
> >>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >>> 
> >>> This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land 
> >>> developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton 
> >>> of 
> >>> money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are 
> >>> granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the 
> >>> licensee.
> >>> 
> >>> https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
> >>> 
> >>> The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including 
> >>> that 
> >>> they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 
> >>> wavelength. 
> >>> Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of 
> >>> reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations 
> >>> can 
> >>> get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> >>>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> >>>> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle 
> >>>> Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of 
> >>>> approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 
> >>>> 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their 
> >>>> lease of the transmitter site.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot 
> >>>> wire?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 73,
> >>>> Patrick
> >>>> 
> >>>> Patrick Martin
> >>>> Seaside OR
> >>>> KGED QSL Manager
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Dennis Gibson
The FCC has licensed a number of stations using short manufactured fiberglass 
antennas. One company has 35, 75 and 85 foot versions. 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> These are Temp time antennas, but I wonder if the FCC would allow a permanent 
> wire antenna like the T antennas? 
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
> 
>> From: ma...@durenberger.com
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:42:59 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
>> 
>> Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early 
>> 1930's :-))
>> 
>> Mark Durenberger
>> 
>> -Original Message----- 
>> From: Patrick Martin
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
>> To: IRCA
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
>> 
>> I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as diplexing, 
>> otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until they 
>> can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the 
>> FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are several 
>> other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in the 
>> valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.
>> 
>> Patrick Martin
>> Seaside OR
>> KGED QSL Manager
>> 
>>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
>>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
>>> 
>>> This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land 
>>> developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton of 
>>> money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are 
>>> granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the 
>>> licensee.
>>> 
>>> https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
>>> 
>>> The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including that 
>>> they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 wavelength. 
>>> Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of 
>>> reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations can 
>>> get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
>>>> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle 
>>>> Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of 
>>>> approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 
>>>> 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their 
>>>> lease of the transmitter site.
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot 
>>>> wire?
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Patrick
>>>> 
>>>> Patrick Martin
>>>> Seaside OR
>>>> KGED QSL Manager
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
The proposed temporary longwire site fort KARR 1460 is about 1/4 mile
southeast of the  boundries of Kirkland. One thing I know from having had
to file an STA myself years ago is the STA signal cant extend beyond
licensed contours. Tthis site is about 1 mile south of the original
licensed site.

Paul


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> These are Temp time antennas, but I wonder if the FCC would allow a
> permanent wire antenna like the T antennas?
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>
> > From: ma...@durenberger.com
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:42:59 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >
> > Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early
> > 1930's :-))
> >
> > Mark Durenberger
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Martin
> > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
> > To: IRCA
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >
> > I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as
> diplexing,
> > otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until
> they
> > can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the
> > FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are
> several
> > other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in
> the
> > valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> > > From: wb6...@gmail.com
> > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
> > > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> > >
> > > This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land
> > > developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a
> ton of
> > > money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs
> are
> > > granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the
> > > licensee.
> > >
> > >
> https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
> > >
> > > The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including
> that
> > > they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10
> wavelength.
> > > Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of
> > > reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations
> can
> > > get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has
> granted a
> > > > special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle
> > > > Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire
> of
> > > > approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at
> > > > 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their
> > > > lease of the transmitter site.
> > > >
> > > > I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot
> > > > wire?
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Martin
> > > > Seaside OR
> > > > KGED QSL Manager
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
Thanks Bruce,  Covington was the closest city I could find close to the 
coordinates. With 625w, they should cover that area ok. It will be interesting 
to see how you and other Puget sound DXers receive them. 625w from a 65 
vertical wire is not much. If it is in a residential area, I wonder what they 
are using for the support, a tree, a building?  

Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 07:04:04 -0800
> From: bport...@comcast.net
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> According to Google Maps, the new site is in a residential area a mile 
> or two from the old  site.
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/47%C2%B038%2739.0%22N+122%C2%B009%2725.0%22W/@47.6441536,-122.1569055,60m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> On 3/7/2015 00:12, Patrick Martin wrote:
> > In checking their new coordinates it looks like the site is near Covington 
> > WA. I wonder how well they will cover Kirkland 15-20 miles to the North?
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> From: mwd...@webtv.net
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; wien...@aol.com
> >> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 23:48:44 -0800
> >> Subject: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >>
> >>  From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> >> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle 
> >> Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of 
> >> approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 1/4 
> >> night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their lease of 
> >> the transmitter site.
> >>
> >> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot wire?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> Patrick Martin
> >> Seaside OR
> >> KGED QSL Manager   
> >>
> 
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
Mark,

These are Temp time antennas, but I wonder if the FCC would allow a permanent 
wire antenna like the T antennas? 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: ma...@durenberger.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:42:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early 
> 1930's :-))
> 
> Mark Durenberger
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Patrick Martin
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
> To: IRCA
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as diplexing, 
> otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until they 
> can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the 
> FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are several 
> other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in the 
> valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
> 
> > From: wb6...@gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
> > To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> >
> > This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land 
> > developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton of 
> > money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are 
> > granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the 
> > licensee.
> >
> > https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
> >
> > The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including that 
> > they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 wavelength. 
> > Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of 
> > reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations can 
> > get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > >
> > > From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> > > special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle 
> > > Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of 
> > > approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 
> > > 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their 
> > > lease of the transmitter site.
> > >
> > > I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot 
> > > wire?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > Patrick Martin
> > > Seaside OR
> > > KGED QSL Manager
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Bruce Portzer
According to Google Maps, the new site is in a residential area a mile 
or two from the old  site.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/47%C2%B038%2739.0%22N+122%C2%B009%2725.0%22W/@47.6441536,-122.1569055,60m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0

Bruce


On 3/7/2015 00:12, Patrick Martin wrote:

In checking their new coordinates it looks like the site is near Covington WA. 
I wonder how well they will cover Kirkland 15-20 miles to the North?

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


From: mwd...@webtv.net
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; wien...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 23:48:44 -0800
Subject: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

 From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle Market, 
KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of approx 20 
meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 1/4 night time 
power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their lease of the transmitter 
site.

I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot wire?

73,
Patrick

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Mark Durenberger Mobile
Time for a serious FLAT-TOP antenna like they used in the 20's and early 
1930's :-))


Mark Durenberger

-Original Message- 
From: Patrick Martin

Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 6:33 AM
To: IRCA
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as diplexing, 
otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until they 
can find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the 
FCC will renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are several 
other stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in the 
valley in Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.


Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager


From: wb6...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land 
developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton of 
money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are 
granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the 
licensee.


https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669

The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including that 
they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 wavelength. 
Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of 
reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations can 
get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment.


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> On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
>
> From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle 
> Market, KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of 
> approx 20 meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 
> 1/4 night time power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their 
> lease of the transmitter site.

>
> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot 
> wire?

>
> 73,
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
I would think 1460 exhausted all locations in the area are far as diplexing, 
otherwise why go to the long wire? This looks permanent at least until they can 
find a site. This may stretch out for quite some time, as long as the FCC will 
renew the CP. I am going to give this a shot, but there are several other 
stations on 1460. Yakima is quite strong and then the one down in the valley in 
Oregon. KARR was not all that strong with 5 KW days.   

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: wb6...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 00:29:41 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land 
> developers with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton of 
> money they'd be stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are 
> granted all the time in emergency situations beyond the control of the 
> licensee.
> 
> https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669
> 
> The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including that 
> they were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 wavelength. 
> Finding a new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of 
> reasons. Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations can 
> get out well if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> > 
> > From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> > special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle Market, 
> > KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of approx 20 
> > meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 1/4 night time 
> > power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their lease of the 
> > transmitter site.  
> > 
> > I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot wire? 
> > 
> > 73,
> > Patrick
> > 
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager 
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Dennis Gibson
This was granted on February 10. It's happening more and more. Land developers 
with dollar $igns in their eyes offer a property owner a ton of money they'd be 
stupid to turn down. These 25% of licensed power STAs are granted all the time 
in emergency situations beyond the control of the licensee.

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101669615&formid=911&fac_num=20669

The towers it was using had a small amount of top loading.  Including that they 
were one quarter wavelength (.25). A 20 meter wire is .10 wavelength. Finding a 
new site of its own would probably be impossible for a lot of reasons. 
Diplexing is most likely the only solution. Diplexed stations can get out well 
if an engineer with experience sets up the equipment. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle Market, 
> KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of approx 20 
> meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 1/4 night time 
> power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their lease of the transmitter 
> site.  
> 
> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot wire? 
> 
> 73,
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager 
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Re: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Martin
In checking their new coordinates it looks like the site is near Covington WA. 
I wonder how well they will cover Kirkland 15-20 miles to the North?

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> From: mwd...@webtv.net
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; wien...@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 23:48:44 -0800
> Subject: [IRCA] KARR 1460 Kirkland WA new CP
> 
> From the Northwest Broadcasters site and the FCC, the FCC has granted a 
> special temporary authority to Family Stations Inc, for the Seattle Market, 
> KARR AM 1460 Kirkland. It will operate using a vertical wire of approx 20 
> meters in height from a location of 47.38.39  122.09.25  at 1/4 night time 
> power of 625 watts. This is due to the loss of their lease of the transmitter 
> site.  
> 
> I wonder how well they will be heard running 625 watts from a 65 foot wire? 
> 
> 73,
> Patrick
> 
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
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