Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Patrick Martin]

I have had the Logitech UE Smart radio for a bit over a year. No longer do I 
have to listen to a lot of garbage on the radio. If I want K-Pop, it is there, 
Liberal Talk, it is there, French love songs, it is there, Romantica, it is 
there. The UK stations are a blast to listen to. Every little community has 
there flea powered AM & FM's and they are fun to listen to. Talk radio from the 
UK, NZ, Australia is different. I will always DX, but with the noise issue and 
all of the QRM, other than DXing, the band is not that great to listen to long 
haul stations. The wifi radio fixes that and more so. In listening, it has been 
a dream come true to me. You are right, no jammers to deal with. :-)  A great 
radio looking for //'s in DXing too. 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:51:42 -0700
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017
> 
> WiFi radio is awesome -- and you get to pay for it.
> 
> And who will need jammers in the future when entire countries can be
> blocked with the click of a mouse?
> 
> Eggs - one basket -- fragile!
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> > I wonder how much of Europe is into DAB that much? I do know the wifi
> > radio is loaded with hundreds on European radio stations, mostly FM. Tuning
> > across the London dial is amazing. Each little town has their own stations.
> > Plus there are BBC outlets everywhere.
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> 
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[R. Colin Newell]

WiFi radio is awesome -- and you get to pay for it.

And who will need jammers in the future when entire countries can be
blocked with the click of a mouse?

Eggs - one basket -- fragile!

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> I wonder how much of Europe is into DAB that much? I do know the wifi
> radio is loaded with hundreds on European radio stations, mostly FM. Tuning
> across the London dial is amazing. Each little town has their own stations.
> Plus there are BBC outlets everywhere.
>
> Patrick Martin
> Seaside OR
> KGED QSL Manager
>


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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Patrick Martin]

Andy,

Thanks. Hakan pretty much reports the same thing. I guess though it is being 
discussed. I know all of the young people only seem to stream these days. 

Patrick

Patrick Martin
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> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 10:30:56 +0200
> From: lawen...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> Norway's phasing out of FM radio is being done in favor of digital radio
> "multiplexes" based on Eureka 147 standard, aka DAB+ (which accomodates up
> to 20 stereo or mono programs per single 1.5 MHz wide channel, using MPEG4
> compression). DAB+ networks operate in VHF band III. A number of smaller
> local stations will probably be allowed to stay analog.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Hawkins  wrote:
> 
> > Patrick,
> >
> > On 4/20/15 1:09 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
> >
> >> I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM
> >> Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is
> >> this the future?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >
> > Boy, I hope not.  Depending on the Internet for everything, is way over
> > the line, of putting all  your eggs in one fragile basket.
> >
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Patrick Martin]

I wonder how much of Europe is into DAB that much? I do know the wifi radio is 
loaded with hundreds on European radio stations, mostly FM. Tuning across the 
London dial is amazing. Each little town has their own stations. Plus there are 
BBC outlets everywhere. 

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 06:35:27 -0400
> From: wb2...@gmail.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; a...@nrcdxas.org
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017
> 
> They are not going to internet only but rather to digital only - either DAB
> or DAB+.
> 
> Norway is already heavy into DAB, having only 5 FM's to close down.
> 
> Russ Edmunds
> 15 mi NW Phila
> Grid FN20id
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> FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
> modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
> Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:
> 
> > I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM
> > Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is
> > this the future?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Patrick Martin]

According the Hakan, the NRK stuff is going to the DAB band and the private 
stations are still going to be using FM for at least a while. But the 
handwriting is on the wall, so to speak as phasing out FM is being discussed, 
In Norther America, radio will still be around for decades, but I would guess 
not as many stations. I have a wifi radio and the radio is amazing. I can 
listen to radio is nearly every country in the world. A lot of the European 
radio is FM only, but it still is very enjoyable. I can pick a country, city, 
and then go up or down the dial like I live there with local signals. Fun stuff.

Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
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> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 03:23:22 -0500
> From: n...@mchsi.com
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> On 4/20/15 1:09 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
> > I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM 
> > Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is 
> > this the future?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Patrick
> 
> Boy, I hope not.  Depending on the Internet for everything, is way over 
> the line, of putting all  your eggs in one fragile basket.
> 
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Dave Marthouse]

If this actually happens according to their timetable I'm 
sure it won't just be internet content delivery.


Remember DAB digital audio broadcasting.

In Europe the DAB implementation is different from IBOC which has been a 
non-starter here since it's establishment over a decade ago.


We don't know which way Norway will go.  They could employ a system that 
the British use in the 220MHZ band or the system the Germans have in L 
band.  Maybe the FM broadcast band will be re-purposed with an all 
digital platform.


It should be interesting to see if this all comes to pass in 2 years.


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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Russ Edmunds]

They are not going to internet only but rather to digital only - either DAB
or DAB+.

Norway is already heavy into DAB, having only 5 FM's to close down.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
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FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 2);
modified Sony ICF2010 w/APS9B @ 15';
Grundig G8 w/whip; modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Patrick Martin  wrote:

> I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM
> Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is
> this the future?
>
> 73,
>
> Patrick
>
> Patrick Martin
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Andrea Lawendel]

Patrick,

Norway's phasing out of FM radio is being done in favor of digital radio
"multiplexes" based on Eureka 147 standard, aka DAB+ (which accomodates up
to 20 stereo or mono programs per single 1.5 MHz wide channel, using MPEG4
compression). DAB+ networks operate in VHF band III. A number of smaller
local stations will probably be allowed to stay analog.

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Hawkins  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> On 4/20/15 1:09 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:
>
>> I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM
>> Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is
>> this the future?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>
> Boy, I hope not.  Depending on the Internet for everything, is way over
> the line, of putting all  your eggs in one fragile basket.
>
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Re: [IRCA] Norway to end FM broadcasting by 2017

[Hawkins]

Patrick,

On 4/20/15 1:09 AM, Patrick Martin wrote:

I just read that the Ministry of Broadcasting in Norway has said, that FM 
Broadcasting will be phased out by 2017 leaving only internet radio. Is this 
the future?

73,

Patrick


Boy, I hope not.  Depending on the Internet for everything, is way over 
the line, of putting all  your eggs in one fragile basket.


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