Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio (update)
Greetings again, I tried a box loop with the radio, and even though I have not been able to get anything other than KSL to toally lock, I have got the flashing HD logo on KFI-640, KCBS-740, KTCT-1050, KRKO-1380, KXXA-1520, and KFBK-1530. The loop seems to null more sideband splash as well as getting rid of more QRM under the HD signal. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: mwd...@webtv.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com; a...@nrcdxas.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:10:56 -0700 Subject: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Greetings, A friend sent me the Sony XDR-F1HD radio. I have never tried an HD Radio. An interesting unit. The sensitivity is pretty good. I noticed Toronto 740 on it tonight. Hooking up the 1500' beverage to the unit, I find the only station that I can get in HD is KSL-1160. They seem to pop up at times in full HD and then will fade down popping in and out with the flashing HD icon. I may try to run the beverage through the box loop and couple the Sony loop to it. It may give me better results when peaking a frequency. Since I no longer have an FM Yagi up, I tried with the wire element for FM, no HD locally. Only one station (NPR) had RDS. Getting back to AM, KSL is such a potent signal off the Eastern beverage, I am not surprised I do get the HD (BOC) signal. Funny, when we visited KSL at the SLC convention in 2008, the CE said that the KSL IBOC signal could not be received in the building only 9 miles from the tx site, but it does get out on sky wave,.I notice one other thing ab! ou! t the Sony IBOC. If there is any interference on the channel or adjacent it does not like it and will not show the HD logo. I doubt I will get any IBOC during the day, but who knows? At least I do get KSL. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
The convention in Salt Lake City was in 2007. During the tour of the KSL Broadcast Center we were taken into a conference room, which had a Sangean HD radio in it. It is very similar to your Sony. It would not lock onto the AM IBOC signal. Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:10:56 -0700 From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com, NRC a...@nrcdxas.org Subject: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Greetings, A friend sent me the Sony XDR-F1HD radio. I have never tried an HD Radio. An interesting unit. The sensitivity is pretty good. I noticed Toronto 740 on it tonight. Hooking up the 1500' beverage to the unit, I find the only station that I can get in HD is KSL-1160. They seem to pop up at times in full HD and then will fade down popping in and out with the flashing HD icon. I may try to run the beverage through the box loop and couple the Sony loop to it. It may give me better results when peaking a frequency. Since I no longer have an FM Yagi up, I tried with the wire element for FM, no HD locally. Only one station (NPR) had RDS. Getting back to AM, KSL is such a potent signal off the Eastern beverage, I am not surprised I do get the HD (IBOC) signal. Funny, when we visited KSL at the SLC convention in 2008, the CE said that the KSL IBOC signal could not be received in the building only 9 miles from the tx site, but it does get out on sky wave. I notice one other thing abo! ut the Sony IBOC. If there is any interference on the channel or adjacent it does not like it and will not show the HD logo. I doubt I will get any IBOC during the day, but who knows? At least I do get KSL. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager Sent from my iPhone ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
Patrick, KFBK will definitely decode for you at times. If KFI still had their old transmitter facility, it probably would, and may still from your location. KEX probably will. I'll be fascinated by what ends up decoding for you, even for just a few seconds. As you know,it takes a pretty massive and steady signal to decode. The only skywave signals I've decoded from Seattle are KEX and KFBK. The 1640 has never been solid enough for long enough to decode, since the signal needs to maintain strength for nearly ten seconds. You're in a much better location, and with those antennas, you'll have a fun time with this. Incidentally, here in Seattle, all four area HD stations have decoded: KRKO 1380 in Everett, 1520 in Snohomish County, KKDZ-1250 in Seattle and KFNQ-1090, also in Seattle. KKDZ doesn't decode as well as their signal would indicate. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
Dennis, 2007. Thanks . We had conventions in AZ, then UT, followed by NM. All three mountain states. By the way, I can get the KFNQ 1090 HD signal during g the day off the NE EWE, but it pops in and out. That is more than I expected. Also the same with KKPZ 1330, but nothing else noted in HD so far during the day. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: wb6...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:20:32 -0700 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio The convention in Salt Lake City was in 2007. During the tour of the KSL Broadcast Center we were taken into a conference room, which had a Sangean HD radio in it. It is very similar to your Sony. It would not lock onto the AM IBOC signal. Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:10:56 -0700 From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com, NRC a...@nrcdxas.org Subject: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Greetings, A friend sent me the Sony XDR-F1HD radio. I have never tried an HD Radio. An interesting unit. The sensitivity is pretty good. I noticed Toronto 740 on it tonight. Hooking up the 1500' beverage to the unit, I find the only station that I can get in HD is KSL-1160. They seem to pop up at times in full HD and then will fade down popping in and out with the flashing HD icon. I may try to run the beverage through the box loop and couple the Sony loop to it. It may give me better results when peaking a frequency. Since I no longer have an FM Yagi up, I tried with the wire element for FM, no HD locally. Only one station (NPR) had RDS. Getting back to AM, KSL is such a potent signal off the Eastern beverage, I am not surprised I do get the HD (IBOC) signal. Funny, when we visited KSL at the SLC convention in 2008, the CE said that the KSL IBOC signal could not be received in the building only 9 miles from the tx site, but it does get out on sky wave. I notice one other thing a! bo! ut the Sony IBOC. If there is any interference on the channel or adjacent it does not like it and will not show the HD logo. I doubt I will get any IBOC during the day, but who knows? At least I do get KSL. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager Sent from my iPhone ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
Rick, Thanks for the input. KEX is no longer IBOC. It hasn't used it for sometime. KKPZ 1330 I believe is the only AM Portland IBOCer now. As I cannot get any hash on 1630 from Radio Disney 1640. They are strong enough to decode if using it. 1040 no longer uses it either. There are few IBOCers on AM left in OR. 1230 Medford was using it, but I don't know if they still are. WA has a lot more. Spokane 590 was using it, but I could not decode it last night. So far during the day only 1090 I could decode as well as 1330 Portland, but both pop in and out. Yes, KFI is weaker here than they used to. Maybe during a solar flare enhancing the South? But the Sony is an interested radio. I should try an FM Yagi to see what I get from Seattle or Portland. Even a small one should work. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:48:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Patrick, KFBK will definitely decode for you at times. If KFI still had their old transmitter facility, it probably would, and may still from your location. KEX probably will. I'll be fascinated by what ends up decoding for you, even for just a few seconds. As you know,it takes a pretty massive and steady signal to decode. The only skywave signals I've decoded from Seattle are KEX and KFBK. The 1640 has never been solid enough for long enough to decode, since the signal needs to maintain strength for nearly ten seconds. You're in a much better location, and with those antennas, you'll have a fun time with this. Incidentally, here in Seattle, all four area HD stations have decoded: KRKO 1380 in Everett, 1520 in Snohomish County, KKDZ-1250 in Seattle and KFNQ-1090, also in Seattle. KKDZ doesn't decode as well as their signal would indicate. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
Thanks, Pat. Due to very high noise levels here, I don't check AM as often as I should. Thanks for the updates. Surprised about KEX; aren't they Clear Channel? I thought CC was pretty dedicated to keeping their IBOCs alive. Less surprised about 1640. I've been expecting KKDZ to drop IBOC, especially since they don't run it from their nighttime site. -- Rick - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Rick, Thanks for the input. KEX is no longer IBOC. It hasn't used it for sometime. KKPZ 1330 I believe is the only AM Portland IBOCer now. As I cannot get any hash on 1630 from Radio Disney 1640. They are strong enough to decode if using it. 1040 no longer uses it either. There are few IBOCers on AM left in OR. 1230 Medford was using it, but I don't know if they still are. WA has a lot more. Spokane 590 was using it, but I could not decode it last night. So far during the day only 1090 I could decode as well as 1330 Portland, but both pop in and out. Yes, KFI is weaker here than they used to. Maybe during a solar flare enhancing the South? But the Sony is an interested radio. I should try an FM Yagi to see what I get from Seattle or Portland. Even a small one should work. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:48:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Patrick, KFBK will definitely decode for you at times. If KFI still had their old transmitter facility, it probably would, and may still from your location. KEX probably will. I'll be fascinated by what ends up decoding for you, even for just a few seconds. As you know,it takes a pretty massive and steady signal to decode. The only skywave signals I've decoded from Seattle are KEX and KFBK. The 1640 has never been solid enough for long enough to decode, since the signal needs to maintain strength for nearly ten seconds. You're in a much better location, and with those antennas, you'll have a fun time with this. Incidentally, here in Seattle, all four area HD stations have decoded: KRKO 1380 in Everett, 1520 in Snohomish County, KKDZ-1250 in Seattle and KFNQ-1090, also in Seattle. KKDZ doesn't decode as well as their signal would indicate. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio
Rick, 620 who is also CC tried IBOC for a couple weeks and dropped is and then KEX finally dropped in months ago. I don't see why anyone is using it on AM. Yes, IBOC does not like noise or QRM. It is pretty useless. But the radio is fun to play around with. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 11:57:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Thanks, Pat. Due to very high noise levels here, I don't check AM as often as I should. Thanks for the updates. Surprised about KEX; aren't they Clear Channel? I thought CC was pretty dedicated to keeping their IBOCs alive. Less surprised about 1640. I've been expecting KKDZ to drop IBOC, especially since they don't run it from their nighttime site. -- Rick - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Rick, Thanks for the input. KEX is no longer IBOC. It hasn't used it for sometime. KKPZ 1330 I believe is the only AM Portland IBOCer now. As I cannot get any hash on 1630 from Radio Disney 1640. They are strong enough to decode if using it. 1040 no longer uses it either. There are few IBOCers on AM left in OR. 1230 Medford was using it, but I don't know if they still are. WA has a lot more. Spokane 590 was using it, but I could not decode it last night. So far during the day only 1090 I could decode as well as 1330 Portland, but both pop in and out. Yes, KFI is weaker here than they used to. Maybe during a solar flare enhancing the South? But the Sony is an interested radio. I should try an FM Yagi to see what I get from Seattle or Portland. Even a small one should work. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 10:48:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sony XDRF1HD Radio Patrick, KFBK will definitely decode for you at times. If KFI still had their old transmitter facility, it probably would, and may still from your location. KEX probably will. I'll be fascinated by what ends up decoding for you, even for just a few seconds. As you know,it takes a pretty massive and steady signal to decode. The only skywave signals I've decoded from Seattle are KEX and KFBK. The 1640 has never been solid enough for long enough to decode, since the signal needs to maintain strength for nearly ten seconds. You're in a much better location, and with those antennas, you'll have a fun time with this. Incidentally, here in Seattle, all four area HD stations have decoded: KRKO 1380 in Everett, 1520 in Snohomish County, KKDZ-1250 in Seattle and KFNQ-1090, also in Seattle. KKDZ doesn't decode as well as their signal would indicate. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
