Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
I am beginning to think that the "Vog" covering the Island is partly at fault - I am getting skunked evening after evening... And my Grundig Yacht Boy happily works indoors but when I take it outdoors it goes into a lock-up state and all I get is dead air on all the channels... Thankfully I have an Eton E100 doing stellar back up duty -- albeit with less selectivity. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > For those on the west coast who feel a little bored with their AM-DXing > hobby, why not try out a radical new form of DXpedition fueled by > transoceanic propagation boosts at sheer ocean side cliffs? > > The theory of cliff-enhanced transoceanic propagation is similar to the > effect that most of us have experienced when listening to distant AM > stations on a car radio while driving up a steep hill going directly away > from the stations--- the signals rise dramatically. But in the case of > ocean cliff DXing, the "steepness" of the hills is almost 90 degrees, and > the cliffs are chosen to face the South Pacific... resulting in > concentrated signals from transoceanic DX stations in New Zealand, > Australia and the Pacific Islands. > > DXing conditions at these ocean cliff sites are very rough... there is no > AC power, running water, street lights or weather protection. They are both > located on Highway 101 turnoff sites, each of which has its own unique > challenges. "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, > OR, and has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the > DXing site. Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its > turnoff site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights > of 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. > Neither site offers anything in the way of comfort, and extremely > small-footprint antennas are a must. Until the very recent development of > compact FSL antennas, nobody had ever attempted serious transoceanic DXing > at these extremely narrow ocean cliff sites. Mental and physical toughness > is a must, along with a strong taste for adventure. Concurrent with a major > DXpedition planned to the Yachats, ! > OR (and nearby Cape Perpetua) area by noted DXpeditioners, an Ultralight > "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the "Rockwork 4" site from July > 21-28, and another "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the Cape > Perpetua site from August 16-20. Both of these sites provided exceptional > examples of cliff-boosted DU propagation on a PL-380 Ultralight with an 8" > FSL antenna last year, as demonstrated in the MP3's linked below (almost > all of them S/N pegging receptions, marked with a double asterisk). This > summer's DXpeditions will be conducted with the new 12" FSL antenna, which > should provide additional DU-DXing excitement. Interested DXers (who are > not intimidated by the challenges) are welcome to participate. > > 73 and Good DX, > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > > 531-PI (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-20-12) > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/e31n5sfan8ro5f8/531-PI-1257Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **567-RNZ National (Wellington, New Zealand, 50 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/9z8vnphq6thc9p2/567-2YA-1246Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **594-NZ Rhema (Timaru/Wanagnui, New Zealand, 5 kW/ 2 kW, Rockwork, > 8-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/yk99u85h54jeaos/594-NZ.Rhema-1311Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **603-Radio Waatea (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-21-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/so9c7cy42nxpj60/603-R.Waatea-1334Z082112PL380.mp3 > > **657-Southern Star (Wellington, New Zealand, 10 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ijcacg8uqmvian9/657-SouthernStar-1247Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **684-NZ Rhema (Gisborne, New Zealand, 5 kW, Cape Perpetua, 7-21-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/bge7anmbo8j79a8/684-NZ.Rhema-1245Z072112PL380.MP3 > > **738-Radio Polynesie, Mahina, Tahiti, 20 kW, Cape Perpetua, 7-19-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a4shuubhn36b6aa/738-RFO.Tahiti-1218Z071912PL380.MP3 > > **765-Radio Kahungunu, Napier-Hastings, New Zealand, 2.5 kW, Cape > Perpetua, 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/my4o957wpjtve0m/765-R.Kahungunu-1220Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **828-Radio Trackside, Palmerston No., New Zealand, 2 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/x76lntrl6nppi87/828-R.Trackside-1233Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **891-5AN (Adelaide, Australia, 50 kW, Cape Perpetua, 7-18-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/rsvoh1aro2w0xtr/891-5AN-1243Z071812PL380.MP3 > > **963-Southern Star (Christchurch, New Zealand, 10 kW, Rockwork, 8-24-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/5232u1x353foufw/963-SouthernStar-1326Z082412pl380.MP3 > > July 2012 Oregon Cliff (Cape Perpetua) DXpedition Report > > http://www.mediafire.com/view/nk9tlf95t0b2m14/July_2012_Oregon_Cliff_Ultralight_DXpedition.doc > > August 2012 Oregon
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Colin, Have you tried going to the north shore cliffs? For me when I was on Kauai in Princevilles north shore cliffs last year about this time I was thoroughly astounded as to what I heard. The most notable was WWL and R. Reloj weak but batteling. Todd Skaine Woodbury, MN Sony ICF 2010 Toyota Radio Original message From: "R. Colin Newell" Date: 06/20/2013 9:36 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions I am beginning to think that the "Vog" covering the Island is partly at fault - I am getting skunked evening after evening... And my Grundig Yacht Boy happily works indoors but when I take it outdoors it goes into a lock-up state and all I get is dead air on all the channels... Thankfully I have an Eton E100 doing stellar back up duty -- albeit with less selectivity. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > For those on the west coast who feel a little bored with their AM-DXing > hobby, why not try out a radical new form of DXpedition fueled by > transoceanic propagation boosts at sheer ocean side cliffs? > > The theory of cliff-enhanced transoceanic propagation is similar to the > effect that most of us have experienced when listening to distant AM > stations on a car radio while driving up a steep hill going directly away > from the stations--- the signals rise dramatically. But in the case of > ocean cliff DXing, the "steepness" of the hills is almost 90 degrees, and > the cliffs are chosen to face the South Pacific... resulting in > concentrated signals from transoceanic DX stations in New Zealand, > Australia and the Pacific Islands. > > DXing conditions at these ocean cliff sites are very rough... there is no > AC power, running water, street lights or weather protection. They are both > located on Highway 101 turnoff sites, each of which has its own unique > challenges. "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, > OR, and has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the > DXing site. Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its > turnoff site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights > of 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. > Neither site offers anything in the way of comfort, and extremely > small-footprint antennas are a must. Until the very recent development of > compact FSL antennas, nobody had ever attempted serious transoceanic DXing > at these extremely narrow ocean cliff sites. Mental and physical toughness > is a must, along with a strong taste for adventure. Concurrent with a major > DXpedition planned to the Yachats, ! > OR (and nearby Cape Perpetua) area by noted DXpeditioners, an Ultralight > "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the "Rockwork 4" site from July > 21-28, and another "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the Cape > Perpetua site from August 16-20. Both of these sites provided exceptional > examples of cliff-boosted DU propagation on a PL-380 Ultralight with an 8" > FSL antenna last year, as demonstrated in the MP3's linked below (almost > all of them S/N pegging receptions, marked with a double asterisk). This > summer's DXpeditions will be conducted with the new 12" FSL antenna, which > should provide additional DU-DXing excitement. Interested DXers (who are > not intimidated by the challenges) are welcome to participate. > > 73 and Good DX, > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > > 531-PI (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-20-12) > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/e31n5sfan8ro5f8/531-PI-1257Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **567-RNZ National (Wellington, New Zealand, 50 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/9z8vnphq6thc9p2/567-2YA-1246Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **594-NZ Rhema (Timaru/Wanagnui, New Zealand, 5 kW/ 2 kW, Rockwork, > 8-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/yk99u85h54jeaos/594-NZ.Rhema-1311Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **603-Radio Waatea (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-21-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/so9c7cy42nxpj60/603-R.Waatea-1334Z082112PL380.mp3 > > **657-Southern Star (Wellington, New Zealand, 10 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ijcacg8uqmvian9/657-SouthernStar-1247Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **684-NZ Rhema (Gisborne, New Zealand, 5 kW, Cape Perpetua, 7-21-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/bge7anmbo8j79a8/684-NZ.Rhema-1245Z072112PL380.MP3 > > **738-Radio Polynesie, Mahina, Tahiti, 20 kW, Cape Perpetua, 7-19-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a4shuubhn3
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Colin, As tough as it is in June (or July), your best hope of DU-DXing success in Kona is to get up at the first sign of daylight, and DX the sunrise enhancement session for all it is worth. >From experience, I know how rough it is to chase South Pacific DX around the >summer solstice, when daylight starts to appear around 1150 UTC (0450 local >time) on the Oregon cliffs. Besides the vibrant DU signals, though, you'll >probably be able to enjoy a quick nap after the session-- which should wrap up >well before the more sensible family members ever notice that you were gone. 73, Gary -Original Message- From: R. Colin Newell To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Sent: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 7:37 pm Subject: Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions I am beginning to think that the "Vog" covering the Island is partly at fault - I am getting skunked evening after evening... And my Grundig Yacht Boy happily works indoors but when I take it outdoors it goes into a lock-up state and all I get is dead air on all the channels... Thankfully I have an Eton E100 doing stellar back up duty -- albeit with less selectivity. On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM, wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > For those on the west coast who feel a little bored with their AM-DXing > hobby, why not try out a radical new form of DXpedition fueled by > transoceanic propagation boosts at sheer ocean side cliffs? > > The theory of cliff-enhanced transoceanic propagation is similar to the > effect that most of us have experienced when listening to distant AM > stations on a car radio while driving up a steep hill going directly away > from the stations--- the signals rise dramatically. But in the case of > ocean cliff DXing, the "steepness" of the hills is almost 90 degrees, and > the cliffs are chosen to face the South Pacific... resulting in > concentrated signals from transoceanic DX stations in New Zealand, > Australia and the Pacific Islands. > > DXing conditions at these ocean cliff sites are very rough... there is no > AC power, running water, street lights or weather protection. They are both > located on Highway 101 turnoff sites, each of which has its own unique > challenges. "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, > OR, and has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the > DXing site. Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its > turnoff site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights > of 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. > Neither site offers anything in the way of comfort, and extremely > small-footprint antennas are a must. Until the very recent development of > compact FSL antennas, nobody had ever attempted serious transoceanic DXing > at these extremely narrow ocean cliff sites. Mental and physical toughness > is a must, along with a strong taste for adventure. Concurrent with a major > DXpedition planned to the Yachats, ! > OR (and nearby Cape Perpetua) area by noted DXpeditioners, an Ultralight > "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the "Rockwork 4" site from July > 21-28, and another "Cliffhanger" DXpedition is planned for the Cape > Perpetua site from August 16-20. Both of these sites provided exceptional > examples of cliff-boosted DU propagation on a PL-380 Ultralight with an 8" > FSL antenna last year, as demonstrated in the MP3's linked below (almost > all of them S/N pegging receptions, marked with a double asterisk). This > summer's DXpeditions will be conducted with the new 12" FSL antenna, which > should provide additional DU-DXing excitement. Interested DXers (who are > not intimidated by the challenges) are welcome to participate. > > 73 and Good DX, > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > > 531-PI (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-20-12) > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/e31n5sfan8ro5f8/531-PI-1257Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **567-RNZ National (Wellington, New Zealand, 50 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/9z8vnphq6thc9p2/567-2YA-1246Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **594-NZ Rhema (Timaru/Wanagnui, New Zealand, 5 kW/ 2 kW, Rockwork, > 8-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/yk99u85h54jeaos/594-NZ.Rhema-1311Z082012PL380.mp3 > > **603-Radio Waatea (Auckland, New Zealand, 5 kW, Rockwork, 8-21-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/so9c7cy42nxpj60/603-R.Waatea-1334Z082112PL380.mp3 > > **657-Southern Star (Wellington, New Zealand, 10 kW, Cape Perpetua, > 7-20-12) > > http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ijcacg8uqmvian9/657-SouthernStar-1247Z072012PL380.MP3 > > **684-NZ Rhema (Gisbor
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Hi Gary. I will be spending one night in Newport and one night in Coos Bay during the week preceding the first DXpedition so I would like to see the sites and hopefully do some DXing there. "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, OR, and has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the DXing site. On the east side of the road in Oswald West State Park there is a large parking lot. About 1 mile south of that and about 2 miles north of Manzania on the west side of 101 I see three smaller cliff-side parking lots. Is one of those the Canon Beach site? Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its turnoff site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights of 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. Where is that in relation to the entrance to the Cape Perpetua Visitor Center? Brian Chapel Victoria, BC ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Hi Brian, I don't think Gary will mind if I jump in here and add a couple details in response. Here's a link that I've sent to others, which shows the Google Maps location of the turnout on the highway at the Cape Perpetua cliff DXing location: http://goo.gl/maps/9KaxIf you use the Street View feature you can see the amount of space that's available for a few cars, and the approach to the spot. The location is a little over a mile south of Yachats, Oregon, and maybe 1/8th or 1/4th mile north of the visitor's center. Have fun DXing at the Oregon coast, and leave some DX for me ;^)I'll be arriving there a week later. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Brian Chapel wrote: > Hi Gary. > > I will be spending one night in Newport and one night in Coos Bay during > the week preceding the first DXpedition so I would like to see the sites > and hopefully do some DXing there. > > "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, OR, and >> has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the DXing >> site. >> > > On the east side of the road in Oswald West State Park there is a large > parking lot. About 1 mile south of that and about 2 miles north of Manzania > on the west side of 101 I see three smaller cliff-side parking lots. Is one > of those the Canon Beach site? > > Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its turnoff >> site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights of >> 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. >> > > Where is that in relation to the entrance to the Cape Perpetua Visitor > Center? > > Brian Chapel > Victoria, BC > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Hi Brian, First of all, Thanks ?to hometown buddy Guy for providing the information on the Cape Perpetua Highway 101 turn off site. Guy was the first to conduct a successful Broadband FSL DXpedition at an ocean cliff site, having used the Cape Perpetua turn off to record vibrant TP-DX on his Perseus-SDR last September. As for the "Rockwork 4" ocean cliff site, it is indeed one of the smaller Highway 101 turn offs located just south of the entrance to Oswald West State Park. As you drive past the state park entrance and up the hill to the ocean cliffs, you will come to a rather large turn off close to the top of the hill, which has a relatively large parking lot, and a "Rockwork" sign. This is "Rockwork 2" (my own personal name), which typically has at least a couple of large RV's parked overnight throughout the summer (along with owners who, unfortunately, feel like they own the place). Go a couple of turn offs past this site and you will come to "Rockwork 4", which is notable for its 400' sheer drop off cliff-- plunging straight down to the Pacific Ocean far below. Assuming that this won't bother you, Brian, you should set up your DXing equipment as close as possible to the cliff edge, so that the maximum propagation gain can be enjoyed from Rockwork 4's awesome topography.? 73 and Good Luck, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Guy Atkins To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 07:42 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions Hi Brian, I don't think Gary will mind if I jump in here and add a couple details in response. Here's a link that I've sent to others, which shows the Google Maps location of the turnout on the highway at the Cape Perpetua cliff DXing location: http://goo.gl/maps/9KaxIf you use the Street View feature you can see the amount of space that's available for a few cars, and the approach to the spot. The location is a little over a mile south of Yachats, Oregon, and maybe 1/8th or 1/4th mile north of the visitor's center. Have fun DXing at the Oregon coast, and leave some DX for me ;^)I'll be arriving there a week later. 73, Guy Atkins Puyallup, WA On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Brian Chapel wrote: > Hi Gary. > > I will be spending one night in Newport and one night in Coos Bay during > the week preceding the first DXpedition so I would like to see the sites > and hopefully do some DXing there. > > "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, OR, and >> has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the DXing >> site. >> > > On the east side of the road in Oswald West State Park there is a large > parking lot. About 1 mile south of that and about 2 miles north of Manzania > on the west side of 101 I see three smaller cliff-side parking lots. Is one > of those the Canon Beach site? > > Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its turnoff >> site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights of >> 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. >> > > Where is that in relation to the entrance to the Cape Perpetua Visitor > Center? > > Brian Chapel > Victoria, BC > > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Brian, If you are interested in seeing the actual scenery and ocean views from these two Highway 101 sheer ocean cliffs in Oregon,, a couple of on-site DXpedition videos were taken during last summer's Ultralight DU-chasing trips. The July 2012 (Cape Perpetua) video is posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZzBfstOXA4 , and the August 2012 (Rockwork 4) video is posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=filugExDz7E . The "Rockwork 4" DXpedition video includes a straight down shot from the DXing site to the rugged ocean rocks 400 feet (122 meters) directly below-- not recommended for acrophobics. 73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) -Original Message- From: Brian Chapel To: irca Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:07 am Subject: Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions Hi Gary. I will be spending one night in Newport and one night in Coos Bay during the week preceding the first DXpedition so I would like to see the sites and hopefully do some DXing there. > "Rockwork 4" is located about 10 miles south of Cannon Beach, OR, and > has a 400' sheer drop off to the Pacific Ocean directly below the DXing site. On the east side of the road in Oswald West State Park there is a large parking lot. About 1 mile south of that and about 2 miles north of Manzania on the west side of 101 I see three smaller cliff-side parking lots. Is one of those the Canon Beach site? > Cape Perpetua is located 2 miles south of Yachats, OR, and its turnoff > site has the additional thrill of being directly in the headlights of > 18-wheel trucks before they make their final turn on Highway 101. Where is that in relation to the entrance to the Cape Perpetua Visitor Center? Brian Chapel Victoria, BC ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Ultralight "Cliffhanger" DU-DXpeditions
Many thanks Guy and Gary for the detailed instructions. I've saved the map locations in my Google account and added them to my GPS receiver so I should be all set. I have never heard a DU and only logged a few TPs so there is no need for anyone to worry about me using up all the DX. My only equipment will be an Eton E1, some wire, and my humble RF Plus Quantum Loop. My car is very small so the Wellbrook loops will have to stay home attached to the fence. 73, Brian ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
