Re: [IslamCity] Chatting and Internet
Mufti Ibrahim Desai did NOT forbid chatting or Internet as a technology. What he did say is "It is not permissible for male or female to speak on the telephone to the opposite gender who is a Ghayr Mahram (not prohibited in marriage) freely and without necessity." Please read his fatwa again, before replying to him. None of the following statements of your makes any sense... noted your below answerthat chatting on internet is prohibited I'm totally confuse on it,if we should have to avoid themthen the technology of mobile fones and tele fones are also prohibited these things/technologiesshouldnt be prohibited ... because he did not prohibit the technology. He prohibited communication with the opposite gender without a need. Regardlesswhether the communication uses modern technlogy or performed the old fashon direct way. Was-salam. -habib. - Original Message - From: Ali Rizwan To: eGroup For Muslims Around The World Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [IslamCity] Chatting and Internet Asslam-u-alikum!!! Respected Mufti Ibrahim Desai Sb, noted your below answerthat chatting on internet is prohibited but I need to ask something to you that both chatter can't see each other and can'texpress the exact feelings although it is possible through wording and other animation effects but still both are behind the screen, then how it could be prohibited unless they don't talk beyond the confines. If I have a male/female friend in overseas and I don't have any other source to contact with him/her except the chatting and I do chat in a very sophisticated mannersjust to discuss routine matters and just to knowing each others then what it should be consider whether wrong or right. and whereas the animation effects (smiley/sad/cheer/weeping/clapping etc) are just to state the feelings and those are not the actual pictures and nobody is even worshiping(NAUZ BI LLAH)them. So even they are bad/prohibited... I'm totally confuse on it,if we should have to avoid themthen the technology of mobile fones and tele fones are also prohibited to use as we mostly send text messages to our friends (male/female) around the clock, means is this also prohibited I believe (sorry to say I'm not going to challenge your knowledge, as you are my senior and I respect you more than a common man) these things/technologiesshouldnt be prohibited, the way we use that should be stopped. We have to change the way we are using these scientific innovated products. Asour God(Almighty Allah) blessed us a brain and we are the only creators of HIS which have the greatest rank in HISall creation,and HE alsogave us power to innovate new things and sense to use/utilization ofthose thingsSo, its better that we should have to follow the right way instead to ignoring the things.As I believe God made two ways for each and single track, now its totally up to us which one we follow Sir, please amend me if I'm wrong in any point! Looking forward for your kind response! Allah Hafiz, Ali Rizwan[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As chatting on the Internet is becoming evermore popular for muslims when socialisng with friends and relatives instead of using the telephone , a trend has been emerging that people have been giving a blind eye to. Ask anybody who chats on the internet regularly and they will tell you that sometimes it is difficult to transfer your _expression_ to your chatting buddy, so a smiley face (as they are known) are concatenated to the sentence to show the writers mood. Answer 15883 2005-10-07 Chatting on the internet is similar to speaking on the telephone. It is not permissible for male or female to speak on the telephone to the opposite gender who is a Ghayr Mahram (not prohibited in marriage) freely and without necessity. If there is a genuine need which is valid in Shariah, then members of the opposite gender may speak through the telephone with modesty and confine the discussion to the need. To speak freely and beyond necessity is a sin. The same rule applies for chatting on the internet. No person should decide him/herself what is a valid reason in Shariah to speak on the phone or chat on the internet. Many people have their own interpretations of genuine need which is not acceptable in Shariah. We are aware of many such people who have caused ruin to their lives especially by chatting on the internet with the oppos
Re: [IslamCity] Chatting and Internet
Asslam-u-alikum!!! Respected Mufti Ibrahim Desai Sb, noted your below answerthat chatting on internet is prohibited but I need to ask something to you that both chatter can't see each other and can'texpress the exact feelings although it is possible through wording and other animation effects but still both are behind the screen, then how it could be prohibited unless they don't talk beyond the confines. If I have a male/female friend in overseas and I don't have any other source to contact with him/her except the chatting and I do chat in a very sophisticated mannersjust to discuss routine matters and just to knowing each others then what it should be consider
whether wrong or right. and whereas the animation effects (smiley/sad/cheer/weeping/clapping etc) are just to state the feelings and those are not the actual pictures and nobody is even worshiping(NAUZ BI LLAH)them. So even they are bad/prohibited...I'm totally confuse on it,if we should have to avoid themthen the technology of mobile fones and tele fones are also prohibited to use as we mostly send text messages to our friends (male/female) around the clock, means is this also prohibited I believe (sorry to say I'm not going to challenge your knowledge, as you are my senior and I respect you more than a
common man) these things/technologiesshouldnt be prohibited, the way we use that should be stopped. We have to change the way we are using these scientific innovated products. Asour God(Almighty Allah) blessed us a brain and we are the only creators of HIS which have the greatest rank in HISall creation,and HE alsogave us power to innovate new things and sense to use/utilization ofthose thingsSo, its better that we should have to follow the right way instead to ignoring the things.As I believe God made two ways for each and single track, now its totally up to us which one we followSir, please amend me if I'm wrong in any point! Looking forward for your kind response! Allah Hafiz, Ali Rizwan[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As chatting on the Internet is becoming evermore popular for muslims when socialisng with friends and relatives instead of using the telephone , a trend has been emerging that people have been giving a blind eye to. Ask anybody who chats on the internet regularly and they will tell you that sometimes it is difficult to transfer your _expression_ to your chatting buddy, so a smiley face (as they are known) are concatenated to the sentence to show the writers mood.Answer 158832005-10-07
Chatting on the internet is similar to speaking on the telephone. It is not permissible for male or female to speak on the telephone to the opposite gender who is a Ghayr Mahram (not
prohibited in marriage) freely and without necessity. If there is a genuine need which is valid in Shariah, then members of the opposite gender may speak through the telephone with modesty and confine the discussion to the need. To speak freely and beyond necessity is a sin. The same rule applies for chatting on the internet. No person should decide him/herself what is a valid reason in Shariah to speak on the phone or chat on the internet. Many people have their own interpretations of genuine need which is not acceptable in Shariah. We are aware of many such people who have caused ruin to their lives especially by chatting on the internet with the opposite gender. The _expression_ of smiley faces and sad faces through internet chatting falls in the category of drawing pictures of animate objects which is prohibited. As an alternative, one may express his/her happiness and sadness in words. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim
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[IslamCity] Chatting and Internet
As chatting on the Internet is becoming evermore popular for muslims when socialisng with friends and relatives instead of using the telephone , a trend has been emerging that people have been giving a blind eye to. Ask anybody who chats on the internet regularly and they will tell you that sometimes it is difficult to transfer your _expression_ to your chatting buddy, so a smiley face (as they are known) are concatenated to the sentence to show the writers mood.Answer 158832005-10-07Chatting on the internet is similar to speaking on the telephone. It is not permissible for male or female to speak on the telephone to the opposite gender who is a Ghayr Mahram (not prohibited in marriage) freely and without necessity. If there is a genuine need which is valid in Shariah, then members of the opposite gender may speak through the telephone with modesty and confine the discussion to the need. To speak freely and beyond necessity is a sin. The same rule
applies for chatting on the internet. No person should decide him/herself what is a valid reason in Shariah to speak on the phone or chat on the internet. Many people have their own interpretations of genuine need which is not acceptable in Shariah. We are aware of many such people who have caused ruin to their lives especially by chatting on the internet with the opposite gender. The _expression_ of smiley faces and sad faces through internet chatting falls in the category of drawing pictures of animate objects which is prohibited. As an alternative, one may express his/her happiness and sadness in words. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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{And who is better in speech than he who [says: My Lord is Allah (believes in His Oneness), and then stands straight (acts upon His Order), and] invites (men) to Allah's (Islamic Monotheism), and does righteous deeds, and says: I am one of the Muslims.} (Holy Quran-41:33)
The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: By Allah, if Allah guides one person by you, it is better for you than the best types of camels. [al-Bukhaaree, Muslim]
The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) also said, Whoever calls to guidance will have a reward similar to the reward of the one who follows him, without the reward of either of them being lessened at all. [Muslim, Ahmad, Aboo Daawood, an-Nasaa'ee, at-Tirmidhee, Ibn Maajah]
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[IslamCity] CHATTING ON INTERNET/USING SMILEY OR SAD FACE GRAPHICS
Question:
As chatting on the Internet is becoming evermore
popular for muslims when socialisng with friends and
relatives instead of using the telephone, a trend has
been emerging that people have been giving a blind eye
to. Ask anybody who chats on the internet regularly
and they will tell you that sometimes it is difficult
to transfer your expression to your chatting buddy, so
a smiley face (as they are known) are concatenated to
the sentence to show the writers mood.
Answer 15883 2005-10-07
Chatting on the internet is similar to speaking on the
telephone. It is not permissible for male or female to
speak on the telephone to the opposite gender who is a
Ghayr Mahram (not prohibited in marriage) freely and
without necessity. If there is a genuine need which is
valid in Shariah, then members of the opposite gender
may speak through the telephone with modesty and
confine the discussion to the need.
To speak freely and beyond necessity is a sin. The
same rule applies for chatting on the internet. No
person should decide him/herself what is a valid
reason in Shariah to speak on the phone or chat on
the internet. Many people have their own
interpretations of genuine need which is not
acceptable in Shariah. We are aware of many such
people who have caused ruin to their lives especially
by chatting on the internet with the opposite gender.
The expression of smiley faces and sad faces through
internet chatting falls in the category of drawing
pictures of animate objects which is prohibited. As an
alternative, one may express his/her happiness and
sadness in words.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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(i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Qur'an) and fair preaching, and argue
with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone
astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.} (Holy
Quran-16:125)
{And who is better in speech than he who [says: My Lord is Allah (believes in
His Oneness), and then stands straight (acts upon His Order), and] invites
(men) to Allah's (Islamic Monotheism), and does righteous deeds, and says: I
am one of the Muslims.} (Holy Quran-41:33)
The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: By Allah, if
Allah guides one person by you, it is better for you than the best types of
camels. [al-Bukhaaree, Muslim]
The prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) also said, Whoever
calls to guidance will have a reward similar to the reward of the one who
follows him, without the reward of either of them being lessened at all.
[Muslim, Ahmad, Aboo Daawood, an-Nasaa'ee, at-Tirmidhee, Ibn Maajah]
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