[Issue 5266] Formula not resizable

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--- Comment #45 from oooforum (fr)  ---
*** Issue 94119 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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--- Comment #44 from rheavy  ---
I originally posted this some 17 years ago and the developer response has been
absolutely absurd - worthy of Through the Looking Glass or responding through a
psychedelic delirium. 

Remember the resizing ability originally existed and I suggested a small
logical change to make it function consistent with MS Office - I would
certainly call it a bug fix. The result? Remove the feature, and when others
object and call for its restoration label it a feature enhancement! Quite
simply, idiotic beyond the pale.

Maybe it should never be fixed and I could claim to have the longest open
unresolved issue (I don't know if that's really true but it's probably close.)

I understand a lot of this development is done without compensation, but this
is really so ridiculous and probably could have been originally resolved with a
minimum of effort. 

I guess I'll check back in other 17 

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--- Comment #43 from rheavy  ---
I originally posted this some 17 years ago and the developer response has been
absolutely absurd - worthy of Through the Looking Glass or responding through a
psychedelic delirium. 

Remember the resizing ability originally existed and I suggested a small
logical change to make it function consistent with MS Office - I would
certainly call it a bug fix. The result? Remove the feature, and when others
object and call for its restoration label it a feature enhancement! Quite
simply, idiotic beyond the pale.

Maybe it should never be fixed and I could claim to have the longest open
unresolved issue (I don't know if that's really true but it's probably close.)

I understand a lot of this development is done without compensation, but this
is really so ridiculous and probably could have been originally resolved with a
minimum of effort. 

I guess I check back in other 17 

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[Issue 5266] Formula not resizable

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--- Comment #42 from Matthew Slyman  ---
Thank you, although, with all due respect, I followed a similar procedure for
inserting the equation last time, and Draw gave me a formula window much
smaller than the size of my formula — as originally explained, the formula was
clipped at about 10% of the width of the formula, clipping off 90% of the
formula — and the green handles stubbornly refused to move! I also encountered
the other problems I have described. The box simply remained at its default
size, except when I converted the formula to a curve, when the box suddenly
shrank vertically, causing vertical clipping as well as horizontal clipping.
(Naturally, as is often the case when an expert gets involved; after you
advised me, the problem disappeared — although I do know that the problem is
there, and has not been fully resolved, because I have not updated my software
in the mean-time.)
So with all due respect to you, I believe there is an intermittent fault in the
code that is supposed to automatically resize the box with the green handles,
according to the size of the contained formula. This intermittent fault is
clearly causing significant (very irritating) problems for a small minority of
users, in a minority of occasions.

ALSO: I have now followed your recommendations completely, and the result was:
a blank formula displayed in Chrome/ Inkscape (they couldn't display the SVG
that Draw exported directly from the formula: it had to be converted into a
path/ contour/ curve first, to work around this issue. Only then did it produce
output that was visible in my other software. I believe this is probably an
issue with management of fonts in Windows — most non-technical users wouldn't
guess this, but then, most non-technical users probably wouldn't try this
procedure either.

I've used a variety of vector drawing programs, on a variety of platforms, over
several decades; and the fact that I'm finding this aspect of Draw (which is
generally quite good software) to be counter-intuitive (and had to read various
online help forums before coming here), is probably a sign that ideally, this
feature set should be improved.

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--- Comment #41 from Marcus  ---
(In reply to Matthew Slyman from comment #39)
> OK, thanks — I must have just presumed they were linked somehow, given that
> LO came from OOO and so I thought any old OOO bugs that were still in
> current LO must somehow be managed here. Excuse me.
> 
> Can you confirm that this problem does not exist in OOO? If so, that might
> give me some leverage with LO…

I hope that the reply from Regina has helped. Otherwise I would suggest that
you try yourself as the options layout has changed since version 1.0.0

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--- Comment #40 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Matthew Slyman from comment #36)
> I have a degree in computer science, and I just spent about 1 hour
> converting a formula into SVG graphic format.

Open Draw, Insert > Object > Formula. Write the formula or import it. Click
outside to finish edit mode.
If not still selected, select the Formula, so it has green handles. File >
Export. Make sure you have "Selection" checked. Choose type "SVG", give it a
file name. OK. Thats all. Less than 5 minutes.

But that is irrelevant for this issue. Use mailing list or forum to get
assistance in using Apache OpenOffice.

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--- Comment #39 from Matthew Slyman  ---
OK, thanks — I must have just presumed they were linked somehow, given that LO
came from OOO and so I thought any old OOO bugs that were still in current LO
must somehow be managed here. Excuse me.

Can you confirm that this problem does not exist in OOO? If so, that might give
me some leverage with LO…

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--- Comment #38 from Marcus  ---
(In reply to Matthew Slyman from comment #37)
> Can anyone explain how these two bugzilla databases are related to each
> other?

Simply read whyat you are writing to: This is the issue tracker of OpenOffice
and *not* LibreOffice. It's another program. If you have a problem their
software please go there. As I can see you know the link already. ;-)

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--- Comment #37 from Matthew Slyman  ---
Possibly related to:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49614

Can anyone explain how these two bugzilla databases are related to each other?

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--- Comment #36 from Matthew Slyman  ---
I have a degree in computer science, and I just spent about 1 hour converting a
formula into SVG graphic format.
This required approximately the following procedure:
* Open LibreOffice Math
* Write formula
* Could not find a way to "export to Draw", "export to SVG", etc.
* Open LibreOffice Draw
* Menu: Insert/ Object/ Formula
* Manually edit the formula (paste in formula code)
* Format/ Font size/ make the text incredibly tiny with 5 point text, so that
the entire formula would be shown inside the tiny, rigid, NON-RESIZEABLE box
thata Insert/Object had placed it inside (the formula was internally
overflowing, and being clipped) — of course this NON-RESIZEABLE box was NOT
automatically resizing itself to the formula contained inside it…
* Context menu: Convert to profile (initially attempted convert to curve, but
this resulted in resizing & clipping so had to try another option)
* Manually resize resulting formula-profile to width of page.
* Manually resize page to vertical size of object
* Export as SVG

I'm running LO 5.2.3.3 x64 — it baffles me how anyone thinks this procedure is
acceptable in 2017. Perhaps with Windows 3.1 in 1992, I would have thought this
about normal, but these days, this is well below my expectations for how
software should work! Anyone who thinks that being inside this strait-jacket is
a "feature" is frankly an idiot. Sorry for the undiplomatic language!

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--- Comment #35 from stretz...@gmail.com ---
Is allowing manual resizing breaking something elsewhere and that just hasn't
been mentioned in this thread?
It's odd how you seem to be going out of your way to reduce functionality,
especially since this bug has been here for 13 years.
Manually resizing through size/position is simple, but for some reason you
default to protecting size even after that protection is removed by the user.
The formula renders correctly in the new size so it's curious to say the least.
Would it be possible to get an explanation of what errors allowing manual
resizing would cause to stem the confusion?
Latency issues perhaps?

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