[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-15348) Hive ACID
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16959185#comment-16959185 ] Georg Heiler commented on SPARK-15348: -- To my best knowledge, EXTERNAL tables are not faster - they are simply not managed. Oftentimes, this means if the writing application is not taking care of sorting, indexing and handling the small files problem - indeed, this is slower. But if you properly handle these using spark there should not be a difference. The metadata is anyhow stored in hive. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16958471#comment-16958471 ] Zhaoyang Qin commented on SPARK-15348: -- [~asomani] [~georg.kf.hei...@gmail.com] Thank you very much for your advice. But I focused on this because I wanted to use hive managed tables by Spark. My concern is that SparkSQL reads Hive's internal tables much faster than the external tables, especially in large Data. I have compared the two performance and found that using an internal table was five times faster than using an external table at 1T of TPCDS data. So I'm more concerned about spark's solution for reading managed tables. I'll keep going. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-15348) Hive ACID
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16958225#comment-16958225 ] Georg Heiler commented on SPARK-15348: -- Another workaround could be external tables [https://stackoverflow.com/questions/58406125/how-to-write-a-table-to-hive-from-spark-without-using-the-warehouse-connector-in] as outlined here. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16957904#comment-16957904 ] Abhishek Somani commented on SPARK-15348: - [~Kelvin.FE] This seems to be happening because you might have "hive.strict.managed.tables" set to true on the hive metastore server. You can either try setting it to false or running the above query as "create external table test.cars ... " instead of "create table" If you still face an issue or have more questions, please feel free to open an issue at [https://github.com/qubole/spark-acid/issues] > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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Zhaoyang Qin commented on SPARK-15348:
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[~asomani] when i use the following codes：`
{{scala> spark.sql("create table symlinkacidtable using HiveAcid options
('table' 'default.acidtbl')")}}`,
i got a AnalysisException(HiveException) :
`org.apache.spark.sql.AnalysisException:
org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.metadata.HiveException: MetaException(message:Table
test.cars failed strict managed table checks due to the following reason: Table
is marked as a managed table but is not transactional.);`
Any help for this?
Also, this cluster is HDP3.0 based,the Spark ver2.3.1 & hive 3.0.0.
> Hive ACID
> -
>
> Key: SPARK-15348
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348
> Project: Spark
> Issue Type: New Feature
> Components: SQL
>Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0
>Reporter: Ran Haim
>Priority: Major
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> Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables,
> you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems
> reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done.
> Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition
> COMPACT 'major'
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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-15348) Hive ACID
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16893806#comment-16893806 ] Abhishek Somani commented on SPARK-15348: - We have worked on and open sourced a datasource that will enable users to work on their Hive ACID Transactional tables using Spark. Github: [https://github.com/qubole/spark-acid] It is available as a Spark package and instructions to use it are on the Github page. Currently the datasource supports only reading from Hive ACID tables, and we are working on adding the ability to write into these tables via Spark as well. Feedback and suggestions are welcome! > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.14#76016) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16848881#comment-16848881 ] Xianyin Xin commented on SPARK-15348: - The starting point (or goal) of Delta Lake is not ACID, but "Data Lake", and ACID is just one of its features. The ACID designs between hive and delta is very different, both have pros and cons. However, hive table and delta table are two datasources in spark's perspective, so a pluggable ACID support for different datasources within one framework is a choice. Maybe datasource V2 API can handle this. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16844765#comment-16844765 ] Jefferson Colares commented on SPARK-15348: --- So the "solution" would be moving all data from Hadoop/Hive to this Delta Lake? Is Databricks pushing a lock-in strategy? > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16844750#comment-16844750 ] Saisai Shao commented on SPARK-15348: - No, it doesn't support hive ACID, it has its own mechanism to support ACID. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16844695#comment-16844695 ] Gowtham SB commented on SPARK-15348: [~jerryshao] Thanks, is Delta Lake support hive ACID? > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16844597#comment-16844597 ] Saisai Shao commented on SPARK-15348: - I think delta lake project is exactly what you want. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16844571#comment-16844571 ] Gowtham SB commented on SPARK-15348: I faced the same issue (Spark for Hive acid tables )and I can able to manage with JDBC call from Spark. May be I can use this JDBC call from spark until we get the native ACID support from Spark. Thanks > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16843978#comment-16843978 ] Jefferson Colares commented on SPARK-15348: --- [~smilegator], What announcement? > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16821557#comment-16821557 ] Xiao Li commented on SPARK-15348: - Please follow the announcement of the upcoming Spark+AI summit. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16475265#comment-16475265 ] Harleen Singh Mann commented on SPARK-15348: Agreed with Arvind. This means either I dont use hive-ACID or break my pipeline out from spark and use hql > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16369602#comment-16369602 ] Dongjoon Hyun commented on SPARK-15348: --- Since Hive 3.0, Hive ACID 2.0 (HIVE-14035) table becomes default table in Hive metastore. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0, 2.3.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=16337760#comment-16337760 ] Arvind Jajoo commented on SPARK-15348: -- I think in order to have an end to end streaming ETL implementation within spark , this feature needs to be supported in spark sql now, specially after structured streaming. i.e. MERGE INTO statement can be run directly from spark sql for batch or microbatch incremental updates. Currently , this needs to be done outside of spark using hive but then it breaks end to end streaming ETL semantics. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: SQL >Affects Versions: 1.6.3, 2.0.2, 2.1.2, 2.2.0 >Reporter: Ran Haim >Priority: Major > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15284698#comment-15284698 ] Ran Haim commented on SPARK-15348: -- If I have a transnational table in hive, I cannot use spark job to update it or even read it in a coherent way. > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature >Reporter: Ran Haim > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15284688#comment-15284688 ] Sean Owen commented on SPARK-15348: --- I suspect that's waay outside the goals of the project and a huge piece of work > Hive ACID > - > > Key: SPARK-15348 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15348 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: New Feature >Reporter: Ran Haim > > Spark does not support any feature of hive's transnational tables, > you cannot use spark to delete/update a table and it also has problems > reading the aggregated data when no compaction was done. > Also it seems that compaction is not supported - alter table ... partition > COMPACT 'major' -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
