[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17204312#comment-17204312 ] Apache Spark commented on SPARK-32037: -- User 'tgravescs' has created a pull request for this issue: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/29906 > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17204311#comment-17204311 ] Apache Spark commented on SPARK-32037: -- User 'tgravescs' has created a pull request for this issue: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/29906 > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17195542#comment-17195542 ] Erik Krogen commented on SPARK-32037: - Thanks for continuing to push this forward [~tgraves]! Let me know if I can be of assistance :) > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17195531#comment-17195531 ] Thomas Graves commented on SPARK-32037: --- it is a good point about blocklist being typoed (but I would hope would be caught in reviews) but if you are looking at amount of change it is only 1 character. Also I don't really see how BlocklistTracker sounds any worse then BlacklistTracker. Both might be a bit weird. HealthTracker might be better there although would be better if we could give context to what health and in this case its either node or executor which is hard to give a name to that includes both. Like you pointed out then you have TaskSetHealthTracker - which isn't really right because its tracking the health of the node/executor for that taskset not the taskset itself. If you look at the description to the config denied seems a bit weird to me: _If set to "true", prevent Spark from scheduling tasks on executors that have been blacklisted due to too many task failures. The blacklisting algorithm can be further controlled by the other "spark.blacklist" configuration options._ If we look at the options in the context of this sentence...: executor that have been denied due to too many task failures executors that have been blocked due to too many task failures executors that have been excluded due to to many task failures The last 2 definitely make more sense in that context. Now you could definitely re-write the sentence for denied, but the other thing is that executors can be removed from the list so denied/allowed or removed from denied doesn't make as much sense to me in this context. block or exclude make more sense to me if they can go active again (blocked/unblocked or excluded/included). Naming things is always a pain. I think based on all the feedback if no one has strong objections I will go with "blocklist". I'll start to make the changes and should start to see in the context of this if it doesn't make sense. Perhaps we can do a mix of things where the BlacklistTracker would be renamed HealthTracker but other things internally are referred to as blocklist or blocked. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17184144#comment-17184144 ] Micah Kornfield commented on SPARK-32037: - FWIW one argument for using 'denylist' is it is the shortest option (which only matters when all other things are equal). An argument against 'blocklist' is it is easy to have regressions via typo. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17184059#comment-17184059 ] Thomas Graves commented on SPARK-32037: --- I started a thread on dev to get feedback: [http://apache-spark-developers-list.1001551.n3.nabble.com/Renaming-blacklisting-feature-input-td29950.html] > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17170817#comment-17170817 ] Thomas Graves commented on SPARK-32037: --- allowlist and blocklist have been used by others. Seems we may only need blocklist. I'm hesitant with healthtracker as it could be used for other health checks but it does sound better. [https://github.com/golang/go/commit/608cdcaede1e7133dc994b5e8894272c2dce744b] [https://9to5google.com/2020/06/12/google-android-chrome-blacklist-blocklist-more-inclusive/] [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1571734] DenyList: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GEODE-5685 [https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/33813] > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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Erik Krogen commented on SPARK-32037:
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I think it might be helpful to frame the discussion around the components used
by this feature. It also might be worth noting that I think in the context of
this feature, the opposite term ("whitelist") is never used, so I don't think
we need to worry about the counterpart to whatever new terminology is chosen.
Here is a list of the main (non-test) blacklisting-related classes whose names
need to be changed:
* BlacklistTracker
* TaskSetBlacklist
* YarnAllocatorBlacklistTracker
Personally I still feel that a health analogy sounds most intuitive, yielding:
* HealthTracker
* TaskSetHealthReport? TaskSetUnhealthlyList?
* YarnAllocatorHealthTracker
Taking blocklist, we get:
* BlocklistTracker
* TaskSetBlocklist
* YarnAllocatorBlocklistTracker
I think it's not very intuitive... "Blocking" to me would usually imply
defending yourself against adversarial behavior (e.g. blocking a phone number,
blocking a nefarious IP address, etc.). But I am open to it -- it certainly
makes the diff easy, just one character to change :)
> Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
> -
>
> Key: SPARK-32037
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037
> Project: Spark
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Spark Core
>Affects Versions: 3.0.1
>Reporter: Erik Krogen
>Priority: Minor
>
> As per [discussion on the Spark dev
> list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E],
> it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can
> alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist".
> While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term
> has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's
> world.
> I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of
> this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the
> public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here.
> I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name
> would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for
> "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation.
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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17158739#comment-17158739 ] Thomas Graves commented on SPARK-32037: --- Any other opinions on what we should go with here? > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17143151#comment-17143151 ] Thomas Graves commented on SPARK-32037: --- I agree healthy/unhealty could mean other things then the current blacklist meaning. Another option is excludes but again has the same problem that it could be excluded if user specified it. A few other options I found searching around: *grant*list/*block*list *let*list/*ban*list - I like ban but not sure on the letlist side. SafeList/BlockList Allowlist/DenyList [https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-knodel-terminology-00.html#rfc.section.1.2.1] has: * Blocklist-allowlist * Block-permit Personally I like the blocklist/allowlist > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17142426#comment-17142426 ] Erik Krogen commented on SPARK-32037: - Thanks for the suggestions [~H4ml3t]! * *quarantined* to me indicates that we want to avoid something bad about this spreading to other places (e.g. quarantining some corrupt data to protect other places from consuming it and spreading the corruption), which isn't the case here. * *benched* is fun, but I think not very intuitive unless you're primed with the analogy. I also am a little concerned that it will make people think of benchmarks. "Benched? Did this node fail a benchmark?" * *exiled* is interesting, but I think unhealthy still does a better job of conveying that the node/executor/etc. is doing something wrong I'm not sure about other resource managers, but at least YARN also uses the concept of unhealthy vs. healthy to refer to nodes that are not performing well. One other thing that came to mind for me was "misbehaving", which I think is really what we are describing by "unhealthy", but I think it sounds a little less smooth. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17141742#comment-17141742 ] wuyi commented on SPARK-32037: -- +1 for healthy/unhealthy > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
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[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17141091#comment-17141091 ] Meniluca commented on SPARK-32037: -- I second the idea and I prefer healthy over other words mentioned so far. However, if I may, I'd like to add a few more ideas. Considering the moment, one could propose "*quarantined*" of course. Another one would be comparing nodes to players, as when they don't perform you leave them on the bench, hence "*benched*". The last one, as mentioned at the [2017 Spark Summit (minute 20:56)|https://youtu.be/OPPg4JeWkzs?t=1255] executors are (using a Latin expression in diplomacy) "[persona non grata|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_non_grata]; which means "*exiled*". I prefer "benched" as it has no really bad acceptation compared to other adjectives. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17140876#comment-17140876 ] Erik Krogen commented on SPARK-32037: - +1 from me, I agree that this feature is basically a health tracker. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether this term > has racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in today's > world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-32037) Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=17140825#comment-17140825 ] Ryan Blue commented on SPARK-32037: --- What about "healthy" and "unhealthy"? That's basically what we are trying to keep track of -- whether a node is healthy enough to run tasks, or if it should not be used for some period of time. I think "trusted" and "untrusted" may also work, but "healthy" is a bit closer to what we want. > Rename blacklisting feature to avoid language with racist connotation > - > > Key: SPARK-32037 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-32037 > Project: Spark > Issue Type: Improvement > Components: Spark Core >Affects Versions: 3.0.1 >Reporter: Erik Krogen >Priority: Minor > > As per [discussion on the Spark dev > list|https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rf6b2cdcba4d3875350517a2339619e5d54e12e66626a88553f9fe275%40%3Cdev.spark.apache.org%3E], > it will be beneficial to remove references to problematic language that can > alienate potential community members. One such reference is "blacklist". > While it seems to me that there is some valid debate as to whether these > terms have racist origins, the cultural connotations are inescapable in > today's world. > I've created a separate task, SPARK-32036, to remove references outside of > this feature. Given the large surface area of this feature and the > public-facing UI / configs / etc., more care will need to be taken here. > I'd like to start by opening up debate on what the best replacement name > would be. Reject-/deny-/ignore-/block-list are common replacements for > "blacklist", but I'm not sure that any of them work well for this situation. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@spark.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@spark.apache.org
