[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2016-06-30 Thread Nicholas Chammas (JIRA)

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Nicholas Chammas commented on SPARK-:
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{quote}
Python itself has no compile time type safety.
{quote}

Practically speaking, this is no longer true. You can get a decent measure of 
"compile" time type safety using recent additions to Python (both the language 
itself and the ecosystem).

Specifically, optional static type checking has been a focus in Python since 
3.5+, and according to Python's BDFL both Google and Dropbox are updating large 
parts of their codebases to use Python's new typing features. Static type 
checkers for Python like [mypy|http://mypy-lang.org/] are already in use and 
are backed by several core Python developers, including Guido van Rossum 
(Python's creator/BDFL).

So I don't think Datasets are a critical feature for PySpark just yet, and it 
will take some time for the general Python community to learn and take 
advantage of Python's new optional static typing features and tools, but I 
would keep this on the radar.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2016-06-30 Thread Reynold Xin (JIRA)

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Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-:


Unfortunately I think that's still necessary. The problem is that "map" should 
return the same type (i.e. DataFrame), not a different type.

We can certainly use monkey patch to add a compatibility package though. That 
might be worth doing.



> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2016-06-30 Thread JIRA

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Maciej Bryński commented on SPARK-:
---

OK.
So what about this patch ?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-13594

Should we break backward compatibility in Python Dataframe API ?

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2016-06-30 Thread Reynold Xin (JIRA)

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Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-:


After thinking about that more, I don't think it will happen any time soon. We 
simply don't see the strong benefit with Python to have a typed-safe way to 
work with data. Afterall, Python itself has no compile time type safety.


> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2016-06-30 Thread JIRA

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Maciej Bryński commented on SPARK-:
---

[~rxin]
What about Python API ? What's the target version ?
https://databricks.com/blog/2016/01/04/introducing-apache-spark-datasets.html

Quote:
"As we look forward to Spark 2.0, we plan some exciting improvements to 
Datasets, specifically:
Python Support."

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Sandy Ryza (JIRA)

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Sandy Ryza commented on SPARK-:
---

[~nchammas] it's not clear that it makes sense to add a similar API for Python 
and R.  The main point of the Dataset API, as I understand it, is to extend 
DataFrames to take advantage of Java / Scala's static typing systems.  This 
means recovering compile-time type safety, integration with existing Java / 
Scale object frameworks, and Scala syntactic sugar like pattern matching.  
Python and R are dynamically typed so can't take advantage of these.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Xiao Li (JIRA)

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Xiao Li commented on SPARK-:


Agree. The major performance gain of Dataset should be from Catalyst Optimizer. 

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Xiao Li (JIRA)

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Xiao Li commented on SPARK-:


Thank you! 

I think the users might need to understand the potential performance difference 
when deciding to use DataFrame or Dataset. I will try to suggest my performance 
team to measure it. Let me know if you have any opinion. Thanks again! 

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Xiao Li (JIRA)

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Xiao Li commented on SPARK-:


Thank you! 

I think the users might need to understand the potential performance difference 
when deciding to use DataFrame or Dataset. I will try to suggest my performance 
team to measure it. Let me know if you have any opinion. Thanks again! 

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Xiao Li (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15023241#comment-15023241
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Xiao Li commented on SPARK-:


Thank you! 

I think the users might need to understand the potential performance difference 
when deciding to use DataFrame or Dataset. I will try to suggest my performance 
team to measure it. Let me know if you have any opinion. Thanks again! 

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Nicholas Chammas (JIRA)

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Nicholas Chammas commented on SPARK-:
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[~sandyr] - Hmm, so are you saying that, generally speaking, Datasets will 
provide no performance advantages over DataFrames, and that they will just help 
in terms of catching type errors early?

{quote}
Python and R are dynamically typed so can't take advantage of these.
{quote}

I can't speak for R, but Python as supported type hints since 3.0. More 
recently, Python 3.5 introduced a [typing 
module|https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html#module-typing] to 
standardize how type hints are specified, which facilitates the use of static 
type checkers like [mypy|http://mypy-lang.org/]. PySpark could definitely offer 
a statically type checked API, but practically speaking it would have to be 
limited to Python 3+.

I suppose people don't generally expect static type checking when they use 
Python, so perhaps it makes sense not to support Datasets in PySpark.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread JIRA

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Maciej Bryński commented on SPARK-:
---

I think we check types also in Python.
As I understand DataSet should have performance advantage over RDD. Am I right ?

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Nicholas Chammas (JIRA)

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Nicholas Chammas commented on SPARK-:
-

If you are referring to my comment, note that I am asking about Dataset vs. 
DataFrame, not Dataset vs. RDD.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Reynold Xin (JIRA)

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Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-:


[~nchammas] Dataset actually will be slightly slower than DataFrame due to the 
conversion necessary from/to user-defined types. We do codegen all the 
conversions, but they are still conversions.


> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Xiao Li (JIRA)

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Xiao Li commented on SPARK-:


Will you publish the exact performance penalty? Is it obvious? For example, 
larger than 1% in general workloads? I know it depends on the workloads. 

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-23 Thread Reynold Xin (JIRA)

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Reynold Xin commented on SPARK-:


We haven't measured it yet, and as you said it is highly workload dependent.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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[jira] [Commented] (SPARK-9999) Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame

2015-11-20 Thread Nicholas Chammas (JIRA)

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Nicholas Chammas commented on SPARK-:
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Arriving a little late to this discussion. Quick question for Reynold/Michael:

Will Python (and R) get this API in time for 1.6, or is that planned for a 
later release? Once the Scala API is ready, I'm guessing that the Python 
version will mostly be a lightweight wrapper around that API.

> Dataset API on top of Catalyst/DataFrame
> 
>
> Key: SPARK-
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-
> Project: Spark
>  Issue Type: Story
>  Components: SQL
>Reporter: Reynold Xin
>Assignee: Michael Armbrust
>
> The RDD API is very flexible, and as a result harder to optimize its 
> execution in some cases. The DataFrame API, on the other hand, is much easier 
> to optimize, but lacks some of the nice perks of the RDD API (e.g. harder to 
> use UDFs, lack of strong types in Scala/Java).
> The goal of Spark Datasets is to provide an API that allows users to easily 
> express transformations on domain objects, while also providing the 
> performance and robustness advantages of the Spark SQL execution engine.
> h2. Requirements
>  - *Fast* - In most cases, the performance of Datasets should be equal to or 
> better than working with RDDs.  Encoders should be as fast or faster than 
> Kryo and Java serialization, and unnecessary conversion should be avoided.
>  - *Typesafe* - Similar to RDDs, objects and functions that operate on those 
> objects should provide compile-time safety where possible.  When converting 
> from data where the schema is not known at compile-time (for example data 
> read from an external source such as JSON), the conversion function should 
> fail-fast if there is a schema mismatch.
>  - *Support for a variety of object models* - Default encoders should be 
> provided for a variety of object models: primitive types, case classes, 
> tuples, POJOs, JavaBeans, etc.  Ideally, objects that follow standard 
> conventions, such as Avro SpecificRecords, should also work out of the box.
>  - *Java Compatible* - Datasets should provide a single API that works in 
> both Scala and Java.  Where possible, shared types like Array will be used in 
> the API.  Where not possible, overloaded functions should be provided for 
> both languages.  Scala concepts, such as ClassTags should not be required in 
> the user-facing API.
>  - *Interoperates with DataFrames* - Users should be able to seamlessly 
> transition between Datasets and DataFrames, without specifying conversion 
> boiler-plate.  When names used in the input schema line-up with fields in the 
> given class, no extra mapping should be necessary.  Libraries like MLlib 
> should not need to provide different interfaces for accepting DataFrames and 
> Datasets as input.
> For a detailed outline of the complete proposed API: 
> [marmbrus/dataset-api|https://github.com/marmbrus/spark/pull/18/files]
> For an initial discussion of the design considerations in this API: [design 
> doc|https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZVaDqOcLm2-NcS0TElmslHLsEIEwqzt0vBvzpLrV6Ik/edit#]
> The initial version of the Dataset API has been merged in Spark 1.6. However, 
> it will take a few more future releases to flush everything out.



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