Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya distributor citrix di indonesia
Mitrasoft, search aja di google untuk kontaknya Sent from BlackBerry® on 234 -Original Message- From: wawa aditiaw...@gmail.com Sender: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 13:35:11 To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ITCENTER] Tanya distributor citrix di indonesia Dear all IT-ers.. Mau tanya, distributor citrix di indonesia ada ngga? Klo ada, siapa ya? Atau langsung dari principal ke partner? Kami ada keperluan POC untuk XenApp, klo minta ke partner ngga enak, soalnya akan di-tender kan.. (Ga mau terikat lah..) Thanks, Wawa Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : itcenter-h...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : itcenter-h...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: itcenter-dig...@yahoogroups.com itcenter-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: itcenter-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Password Desktop Manager
Cari di google winternal site:4shared.com tidak pake tanda petik. File: iso file, burn ke CD and boot from CD. Pilih c:\windows, Skip network search, lalu cari lock. Ganti password nya, restart keluarin CD. Thanks Gober Sent from BlackBerry® on 234 -Original Message- From: Rudy Hartono rudyhart...@yahoo.com Sender: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 16:19:01 To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Password Desktop Manager di google ada software untuk pembuka password login xp , cuman ane belum pernah nyoba sih. saran saya yang paling mudah . cabut hdd dan baca di komputer lain sebagai slave hdd. met mencoba salam dari makassar rudy h From: miy...@yahoo.com miy...@yahoo.com To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 5:23:26 PM Subject: [ITCENTER] Password Desktop Manager Dear all, Karena keseringan bekerja via laptop maupun smartphone, akhirnya PC lama terlupakan. Ketika ada sedikit rezeki utk beli LED monitor, sy baru inget kalo sy lupa password desktop manager. Untuk itu, sy mohon bantuan semua rekan, guru, master dimilis ini; bagaimana cara membuka windows (sy pake windows xp pro) yang password-nya lupa. Wass, miyoeL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : itcenter-h...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: itcenter-dig...@yahoogroups.com itcenter-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: itcenter-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Gimana cara buat virtual server
Sebenarnya tujuan utama VMware vSphere 4 ini untuk mengoptimalkan utilisasi CPU dan Memory, selain itu untuk penghematan tempat, power, dan managemen server serta meminimalkan kabel baik kabel power, UTP, Fiber. Didalam satu physical server ini bisa diisi bermacam virtual server termasuk windows dan linux base. Bisa juga dipakai untuk VPS. Thanks, Gober Sent from BlackBerry® on 3 -Original Message- From: Sandi Ramdhanni s...@kangsandi.com Sender: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:52:45 To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Gimana cara buat virtual server apa VMware vSphere 4 ini yg biasa digunakan di VPS ? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : itcenter-h...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: itcenter-dig...@yahoogroups.com itcenter-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: itcenter-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Gimana cara buat virtual server
Dear All, Ada beberapa produk VMware, antara lain: VMware Workstation dapat dikatakan sebagai software atau aplikasi karena jalannya diatas Windows. Merupakan emulator, seperti halnya bila kita mau main PS di PC atau Laptop. Instalasinya seperti install aplikasi windows base. VMware vSphere 4 merupakan thin layer yang menghubungkan langsung Hardware dengan Virtual Machine. Thin layer ini berbasis linux kernel. Instalasinya juga seperti instal linux. Thanks, Gober Sent from BlackBerry® on 3 -Original Message- From: Sandi Ramdhanni s...@kangsandi.com Sender: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:04:22 To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Gimana cara buat virtual server di windows di linux? diwindows bisa pake sopwer vmware dilinux winbox... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : itcenter-h...@yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: itcenter-dig...@yahoogroups.com itcenter-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: itcenter-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Mohon bantuan membuat network Notebook ke PC
Dear GSM engineer, bisa dicoba dulu: 1. Notebook konek internet lewat modem (ISP) disini pihak ISP akan memberikan IP bisa di cek pada status icon koneksi lalu pilih tab support (klik kanan icon koneksi pada pojok kanan bawah pilih status lalu klik tab support) 2. samakan settingan TCP/IP tersebut pada Settingan Network connection (pada notebook) 3. untuk settingan PC, pilih automatic aja atau DHCP 4. untuk settingan ICS, firewall dibawah sudah benar 5. coba test ping Thanks OS - Original Message From: gsm engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 9, 2007 9:20:53 AM Subject: [ITCENTER] Mohon bantuan membuat network Notebook ke PC Dear aLL, Mohon bantuan nya, bagaimana car membuat network dari Notebook ke PC. Saya ingin PC saya dapat terkoneksi dengan Notebook yang terkoneksi INTERNET, jadi supaya bisa share koneksi gitu.. langka2 yang sudah saya lakukan adalah sebagai berikut: (DENGAN SETTING INI NOTEBOOK DAN PC MASIH BELUM BISA TERKONEKSI JUGA)... 1. di notebook saya sudah setting IP internet protocol (TCP/IP): -IP address: 192.168.0.1 -Subnet Mask: 255.255.255. 0 di menu advance saya sudah centang internet connection sharing - allow other network user to connect trough this computer - allow other network user to control .. firewall saya sudah matikan OFF 2. 1. di PC saya sudah setting IP internet protocol (TCP/IP): -IP address: 192.168.0.2 -Subnet Mask: 255.255.255. 0 -default gateway: 192.168.0.1 di menu advance saya sudah centang internet connection sharing - allow other network user to connect trough this computer - allow other network user to control .. firewall saya sudah matikan OFF 3. cable crosscable already 4. saya sudah melakukan test ping - test ping dari PC : ping 192.168.0.1 hasilnya: tidak bisa ping request time out - lambang koneksi network (gambar monitor pc) hanya berkedip sebelah saja. - tes ping di Notebook ping 192.168.0.2 hasilnya: berhasil ping conected 32mb .. - lambang koneksi network (gambar monitor pc) berkedip kedip kedua duanya. demikian tidankan setting yang telah saya lakukan beserta result nya. mohon bantuan rekan-rekan PENCERAHAN NYA. kalau bisa mohon Step by Step caranya.. Terima kasih. For further information Contact: Ms.Lesta +628158104904 YM: accessories4gsmengi [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id _ _ _ _ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers. yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] cara bongkar IBM Thinkpad 390
Dear atik, untuk bongkar TP IBM coba ke www.pc.ibm.com/support klik continue lenovo utk thinkpad trus masukin Machine Type 2626-xxx pada product number (biasanya di bawah TP ada 7 digit), setelah itu pilih user guide and manuals, cari and klik hardware maintenance and manual, tinggal download file pdf nya (09n8604.pdf). biar gampang nih gw kasih link nya: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovolndocid=MIGR-4BYJF6 atau google aja dengan keyword: 09n8604.pdf site:ibm.com hasilnya sama Thanks OS - Original Message From: atik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: itcenter@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:13:21 PM Subject: [ITCENTER] cara bongkar IBM Thinkpad 390 Halo pakar IT, Saya mau tanya dong, ada yang punya panduan cara bongkar laptop IBM Thinkpad 390x type 2626 ga? kalo ada yang boleh dong dikirimin.. atau link-nya juga boleh... terima kasih sebelumnya.. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Bagaimana cara membuka proteksi file PDF??
pertama remove proteksi nya dengan pdf password remover bisa di download di http://asttechnology.tripod.com/download.htm kedua bisa pakai adobe acrobat 7 pro untuk edit file yang sudah hilang proteksinya kalau mau diubah ke word bisa download solid PDF Converter. search aja di google. - Original Message From: M. Fhandika Rafif Purwadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:46:45 PM Subject: [ITCENTER] Bagaimana cara membuka proteksi file PDF?? Selamat Siang, Saya mempunyai file format PDF, bagaimana caranya meng-convert file PDF tersebut ke format file *.doc atau format file lain agar bisa di edit kembali?? Kebetulan file tersebut juga di proteksi, adakah s/w untuk membuka proteksi tersebut. Thanks - - --- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## ## Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Remove Password Admin - NT Server
saya ada softwarenya dan sudah dicoba di winxp, win2k berhasil tapi utk nt server blom pernah dicoba. kalo mau japri aja ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks --- Erwin Bayu Aji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Met pagi temen2...mungkin hal2 seperti ini pernah ditanyakan sebelumnya dalam milist, tetapi gak ada salahnya kalau saya singgung-singgung lagi sedikit ;) maklum lama udah gak pegang NT juga. Gini lho, di kantor temenku pernah coba2 install NT dan juga Mdaemon nih...setelah dicoba dan dikonfigurasi semunya oke dan berjalan dengan baik. tetapi setelah kantor temenku tsb pindahan ke kantor dan selama 1 bulan server tsb dimatikan alias nganggur krn pindahan kemarin temenku tsb sempat call dan say that the NT couldn't login. so what can i do to help my friend neh.tolong temen2 kalo masih pegang referensi NT remove password admin dll thanks for all ya.. rgds, erwin - Original Message - From: Rihart Manurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] tanya perusahaam Coba Link ini mas, www.disb2b.com Thanks Rihart Manurung - Original Message - From: disi_72 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: [ITCENTER] tanya perusahaam hi all ada yang tahu webside yang berisi alamat2x industri+webnya kalau ada repply ke aq ya thanks disi -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re[2]: [ITCENTER] Windows XP password lupa
kalo mau japri ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Yani Daniel M.H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mungkin itu karena Administratornya gak pake password pak. Saya juga pernah ngalamin yang seperti itu. Tapi kalo Administratornya pake password, berarti sudah jelas kita gak akan bisa login. -- Best regards, Yani mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, January 13, 2005, 2:12:35 AM, Yani Pitono wrote: YP Masuk safe mode aja juga login kok, gimana mau remove password? YP On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:08:17 + (GMT), haidir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hehhemasalahnya sama nih sama masalahku beberapa minggu lalu...aku juga ngga bisa masukin passwordnya ..padahal udah betul tuh...sekarang aku tau ..bahwa komputer ku ngga bisa dikasih password..password yg diketik berubah saat login..udah 2 kali aku coba..hehehe untuk masalah Anda pertma kali aku emang bingung...berbagai chanel irc yg sering ada tanya jawab komputer ku masuki.salah satunya neoteker (bukan promosi lho)hehhee disana lah aku sering tanya..tanya (mungkin yg paling banyak nanya aku)hehehhedari semua jawaban yg aku dapat semuanya selalu menyuruh menggunakan software.terus aku mikir pake softwaregimana instal dan menggunaknnya ya..padahal masuk ke xp aja ngga bisa.nah lalu aku cuma cari di amang gogel...nah dari sana aku temuin tip dan trik...Pertama boot kompi Anda.selama proses boot tekan terus F8 sampai ada menu pilihan nah dari sana pilih menu safe mode.nah setelah itu Anda akan masuk ke xp.setelah itu silahkan remove your passwordSELAMATsemoga membantu.. KAPAN IT CENTER BIKIN chanel IRC...?? -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Re[2]: [ITCENTER] Lupa password local administrator di Windows XP
kalo mau japri aja ke [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanti saya kasih program ama step by stepnya. tapi ga janji soalnya sekarang lagi sibuk nih. bisa lama balesnya. --- Yani Daniel M.H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Untuk create bootable CD itu software apa pak ? Trus untuk modifikasi SAM pake program apa ? Reset password administratornya gimana ? Dijelasin dong pak. Sekalian bagi-bagi ilmu. Makasih sebelumnya. -- Best regards, Yani mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, December 6, 2004, 5:58:11 PM, Usman wrote: cd Makasih temen2 IT buat ide dan inputnya cd Problem ini sudah saya solve, kemaren donload software untuk cd create bootable CD, kemudian restart dari CD tersebut, dan gunakan cd program untuk modifikasi SAM dan mereset password administrator cd nya. cd Thx cd Usman cd Acenk Asmara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd Kalok windows xp-nya pake format NTFS apakah bisa boot pake startup windows cd 98 masih running di FAT32 ? cd kalok pengalamanku sih belum bisa. cd -asf- cd - Original Message - cd From: Yokhanan PRASETYONO cd To: cd Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:32 AM cd Subject: RE: [ITCENTER] Lupa password local administrator di Windows XP Cara yang biasa saya lakukan (mur-mer dan tidak perlu donlot file apapun): 1. boot pc dgn memakai startup windows 98 2. masuk ke directory c:\winnt\system32\config 3. cari file yg namanya sam (tanpa extension), rename menjadi sam.old or sam.xxx or whatever 4. restart -- dijamin nanti hilang deh password admin-nya Semoga membantu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pake offline nt registry and password editor aja. junedi Kalau lupa password lokalnya, di Safe Mode aja komputernya, kali aja password Administratornya tidak di password. Kalau di password juga dan ngga tau paawordnya, yah terpaksa harus Recovery Install. S'moga membantu. Trim's. cool dragon wrote: Dear teman2 IT, Tanya dong, komputer boss saya, entah apa yg diperbuat beliau di rumah, tiba2 saja pagi ini dateng ke kantor dan komputernya sudah disjoin dari domain kantor, dan celakanya tidak inget satupun local account password termasuk local administrator, Gimana ya caranya untuk mereset supaya bisa login ? Ma kasih banyak sebelumnya Usman yanglagikebakaranjenggottakutbosmarah -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com -- www.ITCENTER.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! ::: ## Forum: ITCENTER.or.id/forum ## Jobs: ITCENTER.or.id/jobs ## Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/