Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek
tergantung penggunaan dalam PC itu berapa banyak... kalau saya power supply pertama 350watt, sekarang di ganti dengan 450 watt, ini dengan kondisi, kipas ada 3, (2 kipas besar untuk PC, 1 kipas untuk chipset mainboard), 1 kipas processor, 2 hdd, 1dvd, 1dvdrw, 1drive disket, slot pci terpakai 4 kalo ndak salah, sama agp juga di pake, belum termasuk usb yang lumayan banyak kabel dari PSU banyak dicabangin, soalnya 4 slot kabel yang tersedia gak cukup. sejauh itu 450watt cukup aja sih untuk cover semua, hdd tidak lagi bunyi2. dulu kalo bunyi cetang ceteng waktu masih pake PSU 350watt, digeser2 kabelnya bisa jalan hehehe... tadinya ngeri juga bakalan rusak hdd soalnya masih belum lama belinya, mana yang bunyi2 itu yang buat data lagi, bukan systemnya. semoga membantu. satia budhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com 06/27/2008 02:35 PM Please respond to ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com To ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com cc Subject Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek kira2 power suplay yng brapa wat ya thkas atas jawabannya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bro Satya, kasus terburuk hdd sudah saatnya diganti... kasus terbaik kabel listrik dari power supply bermasalah atau power supply nya ndak kuat handle, bisa jadi karena banyak drive dan aksesoris seperti kipas dll yang dipasang. dulu punya saya juga begitu... 2 hdd, 1 dvd, 1 dvdrw, kipas tambahan 3, dan pake thermal cooler heheheh... tapi setelah di cek masalahnya, ternyata di power supply aja, begitu ganti power supply jadi lebih besar wattnya, masalah teratasi. semoga membantu... . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek
dulu gue pernah kayak gitu, kalo kasus gue : 1. PSU gak kuat 2. coba untuk kabel power yang ke HD jangan di colok kemana2 lagi .. alias kabel power dari PSU yang ke HD, hanya di colok ke HD aja .. ini kemaren gue colokin kabel power HD ke banyak device, dan ya bunyi tek, abis itu hang .. pas gue copot kabel yang ke device lain, langsung lancar .. xna 2008/6/26 satyabudhi76design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... > > terima kasih > pish uh > satya 621 s2w reg. banten -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek
BETUL... PSU : Power Supply Unit Inget..Tambah blower untuk HDnya karena Hd tersebut sdh ga bs berlama2.. wassalam ::vic:: - Original Message From: satia budhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:49:14 AM Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek thanks bro atas sarannya gua akan coba tapi yang gua ga tahu >>>>PSU menjadi 600wt << wrote: Selamat Siang... 3th yg lalu saya mempunyai masalah serupa dg Maxtor Diamond 40Gb 5400rpm.. Hoppless..?? ?? sdh hampir pasti..! KArena bunyi "CakTek"-nya itu makin hari makin cepat..*&^%$ #@ Tp Saya Coba mengganti Kabel data & PSU menjadi 600wt serta menambah blower khusus untuk HD yg harganya berkisar Rp15rb.. Sampai sekarang Alhamdulillah HD tersebut msh terus digunakan meskipun sudah pindah tangan ke ade saya yg kecil... So,ga ada salahnya kan untuk mencoba dengan cara itu.. :) Smoga Bermanfaat ::vic:: - Original Message From: satyabudhi76design To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:58:41 AM Subject: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi PC langsung HANG. dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... terima kasih pish uh satya 621 s2w reg. banten [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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kira2 power suplay yng brapa wat ya thkas atas jawabannya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Bro Satya, kasus terburuk hdd sudah saatnya diganti... kasus terbaik kabel listrik dari power supply bermasalah atau power supply nya ndak kuat handle, bisa jadi karena banyak drive dan aksesoris seperti kipas dll yang dipasang. dulu punya saya juga begitu... 2 hdd, 1 dvd, 1 dvdrw, kipas tambahan 3, dan pake thermal cooler heheheh... tapi setelah di cek masalahnya, ternyata di power supply aja, begitu ganti power supply jadi lebih besar wattnya, masalah teratasi. semoga membantu... Syarifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com 06/26/2008 12:50 PM Please respond to ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com To ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com cc Subject Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek satyabudhi76design wrote: > > > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... > > terima kasih > pish uh > satya 621 s2w reg. banten HDD nya sepertinya sudah harus di ganti tuh mas -- Regards, Syarifuddin YM: darinol visit: www.darinol.net - Tutorial Windows Server 2003 for Newbie __._,_ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Fadjar Nurswanto wrote: > > > M. Prasodjo wrote: > > HDnya tipe lama bukan (IDE)? Bunyi karena head nyangkut ? > > Saya belum pernah mengalami di SATA. Tapi beberapa kasus lama yang > > pernah saya alami dulu obat mujarab untuk bunyi cetek2x adalah dibanting. > > > > *Serius looo > > > > M. Prasodjo > > > > > > > > > Iya, lalu beli yang baru. Pasti akan terdengar zinggg. > Sorry, Pras. Baru denger aja. > Hehe... om fajar. dah sehat om. katanya kemaren nyiumin motor di jalan ? kalau saya dulu sih kasusnya head seperti terganjal alias nyangkut. Entahlah teknis dalamnya seperti apa. lain urusan kalo motornya atau yang lainnya yang mengalami masalah. emang musti dibanting nyari lagi hehe ato minta dibeliin M. Prasodjo http://www.gauli.com -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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M. Prasodjo wrote: > HDnya tipe lama bukan (IDE)? Bunyi karena head nyangkut ? > Saya belum pernah mengalami di SATA. Tapi beberapa kasus lama yang > pernah saya alami dulu obat mujarab untuk bunyi cetek2x adalah dibanting. > > *Serius looo > > M. Prasodjo > > > > Iya, lalu beli yang baru. Pasti akan terdengar zinggg. Sorry, Pras. Baru denger aja. Fadjar Nurswanto http://rindudendam.wordpress.com -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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satia budhi wrote: > > > thanks bro atas sarannya gua akan coba tapi yang gua ga tahu PSU > menjadi 600wt << > HDnya tipe lama bukan (IDE)? Bunyi karena head nyangkut ? Saya belum pernah mengalami di SATA. Tapi beberapa kasus lama yang pernah saya alami dulu obat mujarab untuk bunyi cetek2x adalah dibanting. *Serius looo M. Prasodjo -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Dear Bro Satya, kasus terburuk hdd sudah saatnya diganti... kasus terbaik kabel listrik dari power supply bermasalah atau power supply nya ndak kuat handle, bisa jadi karena banyak drive dan aksesoris seperti kipas dll yang dipasang. dulu punya saya juga begitu... 2 hdd, 1 dvd, 1 dvdrw, kipas tambahan 3, dan pake thermal cooler heheheh... tapi setelah di cek masalahnya, ternyata di power supply aja, begitu ganti power supply jadi lebih besar wattnya, masalah teratasi. semoga membantu... Syarifuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com 06/26/2008 12:50 PM Please respond to ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com To ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com cc Subject Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek satyabudhi76design wrote: > > > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... > > terima kasih > pish uh > satya 621 s2w reg. banten HDD nya sepertinya sudah harus di ganti tuh mas -- Regards, Syarifuddin YM: darinol visit: www.darinol.net - Tutorial Windows Server 2003 for Newbie __._,_ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek
thanks bro atas sarannya gua akan coba tapi yang gua ga tahu PSU menjadi 600wt << wrote: Selamat Siang... 3th yg lalu saya mempunyai masalah serupa dg Maxtor Diamond 40Gb 5400rpm.. Hoppless.. sdh hampir pasti..! KArena bunyi "CakTek"-nya itu makin hari makin cepat..*&^%$#@ Tp Saya Coba mengganti Kabel data & PSU menjadi 600wt serta menambah blower khusus untuk HD yg harganya berkisar Rp15rb.. Sampai sekarang Alhamdulillah HD tersebut msh terus digunakan meskipun sudah pindah tangan ke ade saya yg kecil... So,ga ada salahnya kan untuk mencoba dengan cara itu.. :) Smoga Bermanfaat ::vic:: - Original Message From: satyabudhi76design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:58:41 AM Subject: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi PC langsung HANG. dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... terima kasih pish uh satya 621 s2w reg. banten [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Selamat Siang... 3th yg lalu saya mempunyai masalah serupa dg Maxtor Diamond 40Gb 5400rpm.. Hoppless.. sdh hampir pasti..! KArena bunyi "CakTek"-nya itu makin hari makin cepat..*&^%$#@ Tp Saya Coba mengganti Kabel data & PSU menjadi 600wt serta menambah blower khusus untuk HD yg harganya berkisar Rp15rb.. Sampai sekarang Alhamdulillah HD tersebut msh terus digunakan meskipun sudah pindah tangan ke ade saya yg kecil... So,ga ada salahnya kan untuk mencoba dengan cara itu.. :) Smoga Bermanfaat ::vic:: - Original Message From: satyabudhi76design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:58:41 AM Subject: [ITCENTER] Hardisk Bunyi Cak Tek Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi PC langsung HANG. dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... terima kasih pish uh satya 621 s2w reg. banten [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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satyabudhi76design wrote: > > > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... > > terima kasih > pish uh > satya 621 s2w reg. banten HDD nya sepertinya sudah harus di ganti tuh mas -- Regards, Syarifuddin YM: darinol visit: www.darinol.net - Tutorial Windows Server 2003 for Newbie -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hello satyabudhi76design, Thursday, June 26, 2008, 10:58:41 AM, you wrote: > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... coba cek ke guruhdd.com kontak personnya sutiono aping atau dia punya jg toko di mangga dua mall. coba kontak dulu aja. --- www.oprekpc.com/forum/ www.warungplus.com www.driverlib.com --- Best regards, Pangon YM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] my ebook collection: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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sulit buat benerin hd, sudah gak worted lagi. mending segera beli hdd baru dan kopi data2 yg penting . . satyabudhi76design wrote: > Ada ga sih yang bisa betulin hardisk di jakarta ini kata teman gua sih > di polu gadung benar ga sih ...? > kendalanya hardisk bunyi Cak Tek kadang2 dan bila bunyi kaya gitu lagi > PC langsung HANG. > dan kalau ada service hardisk biayanya berapa ya... > > > terima kasih > pish uh > satya 621 s2w reg. banten > > > > > -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
