Re: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT..

2009-01-04 Terurut Topik Christian
Bung Albert Siagian termasuk senior di IT Center..
Apa Kabar Bung Albert, selamat Tahun Baru ya.. btw masih di cikarang
nih lokasi Sampan nya??

Salam,
Christian Prasetya


2008/12/24  asya...@yahoo.co.id:
 Intinya sih, ini protokol jadul, yang berasumsi tidak ada penjahat di
 dunia maya :-)

 Buat Rekan Albert,

 Oh, baru tahu saya klo kita selama ini bisa dimainin :)
 Terimakasih Rekan Albert atas infonya. ^^
 Anda benar2 luar biasa. :D

 Regard,

 Anas
 http://asyanas.blogspot.com

 



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RE: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT..

2008-12-29 Terurut Topik asyanas
   Intinya sih, ini protokol jadul, yang berasumsi tidak ada penjahat di 
   dunia maya :-)

Buat Rekan Albert,

Oh, baru tahu saya klo kita selama ini bisa dimainin :)
Terimakasih Rekan Albert atas infonya. ^^
Anda benar2 luar biasa. :D

Regard,

Anas
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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT.....

2008-12-23 Terurut Topik Albert Siagian
ricoh.san...@yahoo.co.id wrote:
   Eh d (Edited by Moderator, kata yg kurang sopan untuk milis), 
*** ** sdh minta (tidak) dikasih, ** ** jadi tanya di milis.
 ** perlu *** (diketahui), ** minta krn ** perlu.
 


Kalau di lihat sih sebenarnya ada member milis yang baru tahu, protokol 
SMTP itu bisa dibuat mainan :-)

Coba bandingkan mail header Ricoh Sanusi yang isinya sopan, dan mail 
header Ricoh Sanusi yang isinya di sensor.

Mail header Ricoh Sanusi yang di sensor, contohnya:

=
X-Received: by simscan 1.2.0 ppid: 27317, pid: 27322, t: 1.2686s
  scanners: clamav: 0.88.4/m:40/d:1945 spam: 3.1.4
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on
smtpsmart3.fe.aruba.it
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RDNS_NONE
autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5
X-Received: from unknown (HELO webs3.aruba.it) (62.149.130.13)
   by smtpsmart3.fe.aruba.it with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 10:12:10 -
X-Received: from mail pickup service by webs3.aruba.it with Microsoft 
SMTPSVC;
 Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:12:11 +0100

=

Sedangkan mail header asli, bukan dari webs3.aruba.it dan tidak 
menggunakan SpamAssasin.

Sebenarnya, beberapa hari sebelum Ricoh Sanusi ini, saya juga terima 
email japri yang serupa, headernya ada webs3.aruba.it dan SpamAssasin.

Jadi kesimpulannya, ada member itcenter yang bermain dengan protokol 
SMTP, mengubah from dan mengirim email palsu.


Member itcenter ini pikir dia genius kali yah, di dunia ini cuma dia 
yang tahu kelemahan SMTP...hehe..

Salam
Albert



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RE: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT..

2008-12-23 Terurut Topik adilasusi

   Jadi kesimpulannya, ada member itcenter yang bermain dengan protokol
   SMTP, mengubah from dan mengirim email palsu.

Wah bahaya donk kalau begitu.
SMTP bisa dipalsuin.

   Member itcenter ini pikir dia genius kali yah, di dunia ini cuma dia
   yang tahu kelemahan SMTP...hehe..

Gimana sih cara bisa tahu kelemahan SMTP, krn ini bahaya sekali buat 
kita2.





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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT..

2008-12-23 Terurut Topik Albert Siagian
adilas...@yahoo.co.id wrote:
 
 Gimana sih cara bisa tahu kelemahan SMTP, krn ini bahaya sekali buat 
 kita2.


Mesti baca dan memahami RFC untuk SMTP :-)


http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc821.html
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html

Dari section 7.1:
SMTP mail is inherently insecure in that it is feasible for even
fairly casual users to negotiate directly with receiving and relaying
SMTP servers and create messages that will trick a naive recipient
into believing that they came from somewhere else.


Intinya sih, ini protokol jadul, yang berasumsi tidak ada penjahat di 
dunia maya :-)


Salam
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RE: [ITCENTER] Re: gmn cr open block dr IT.....

2008-12-22 Terurut Topik ricoh.sanusi
 Buat Rekan Ardhi,
 Kalau memang kebijakan di tempat kerja Anda begitu, maka hormatilah.
 Tapi kalau memang benar2 perlu, kenapa ga request saja via 
 Administratornya.
 Menurut Saya itu lebih bijak. :)

Eh d (Edited by Moderator, kata yg kurang sopan untuk milis), *** ** sdh 
minta (tidak) dikasih, ** ** jadi tanya di milis.
** perlu *** (diketahui), ** minta krn ** perlu.

Salam,

Ricoh Sanusi

Catatan Moderator :
Jika tidak diberi oleh sang Admin, berarti itu memang kebijakan kantor anda... 
Tetapi jika anda benar2x perlu (untuk pekerjaan anda) apalagi bisa dikuatkan 
oleh minimal 2 orang atasan anda, pasti akan diberi ijin...

Untuk lain kali harap gunakan kata2x yang sopan... Baca kembali peraturan milis 
ini...









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