RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Browsing dari kompie lain bro. Kita asumsikan IPCop punya 2 NIC yakni Red untuk
WAN (misal 212.154.12.2 yg dikasih ISP) dan Green untuk LAN (Misal 192.168.1.1)
Nah untuk memange IPCop, anda tinggal pake web browser dan masuk ke alamat
gateway 192.168.1.1:445
Dari situ ntar ada form https terus tinggal masukin username ama password-nya
ketika setup sebelumnya.
Nah nanti akan muncul deh tampilan GUI IPcop. Di situlahntar andakan bermain2
konfigurasi.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:09:20 +0700
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
maksudnya web broser gimana bro? saya masuk web browsernya dari
komputeryang dah di install IP Cop? atau dari kompie lain?
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yang bagusGa bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri
didalamnya ada squid.Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa
susah?caranya udah saya kasih
tau:1. donwload file iso2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso
tsb.3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan
CD installation yang barusan di buat.5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi
parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,dll, next, next sampe finish.6.
restart7. Colok ke network, configure via web browserUntuk
main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya sarankan
paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda mengerti
konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti linux. Anda
login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu interaktif (bukan command
prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll.-ech-On Wed, 7
Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:> jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan
IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux> ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>> >
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
itu lah salah satu ke unikan linux
karena Linux adalah UNIX dan UNIK
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> Denis Arifin wrote:
> > jadi kalo mau install IP Cop bagaimana caranya? bisa langsung boot kan?
ngak
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
appliance sih...boleh boleh aja...tapi sbenarnya kalo udah jadi distro
seperti astaro ..ipcop ( free ) dll...ga jauh beda...cuma kita beli include
sama hardware...ajat
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> sorry nich bos-bos,
>
> kenapa ga pake appliance aja alias h/w ? daripada pusing2 gitu :p
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> Denis Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid.
> Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah?
>
> caranya udah saya kasih tau:
> 1. donwload file iso
> 2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb.
> 3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.
> 4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat.
> 5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,
> dll, next, next sampe finish.
> 6. restart
> 7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser
>
> Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya
> sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda
> mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti
> linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu
> interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll.
>
> -ech-
>
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:
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> > jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
pak...jangan takut dulu dengan linux...linux tidak seperti yang anda
bayangkan...ga usah cari -cari squid for windows ..karena linux banyak yang
sudah jadi distro spesial ..( linux Box ) ..seperti Endian Firewall
...mudah, tinggal boot dari CD ..terus setting...udah deh masuk web base nya
untuk konfigure ...udah ada squid nya juga
Coba buka di sini
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:12 AM
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> tul di IPCOP udah include squid jadi IPCOP = firewall+proxy
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> On 6/7/06, AryaSeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Denis Arifin wrote:
> > > denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana
> > bisa
> > > memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara
squid
> > > dengan IpCop?
> >
> > Squid itu Proxy yang fungsi utama nya adalah caching halaman website yg
> > dikunjungi (CMIIW)
> > nah klo IPCop itu adalah Firewall "IPCop Firewall is a Linux firewall
> > distribution geared towards home and SOHO (Small Office/Home Office)
> > users"
> >
> > Sepertinya beda fungsinya, walau di ipcop udah include squid (CMIIW
juga)
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Denis Arifin wrote: > jadi kalo mau install IP Cop bagaimana caranya? bisa langsung boot kan? ngak > harus install linuxnya dulu kan? > > Kalo setahu saya, IPCop tu OS khusus firewall ..jadi bukan software. -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
sorry nich bos-bos,
kenapa ga pake appliance aja alias h/w ? daripada pusing2 gitu :p
Denis Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
maksudnya web broser gimana bro? saya masuk web browsernya dari komputer
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Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid.
Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah?
caranya udah saya kasih tau:
1. donwload file iso
2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb.
3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.
4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat.
5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,
dll, next, next sampe finish.
6. restart
7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser
Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya
sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda
mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti
linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu
interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll.
-ech-
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> jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
> ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
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From: "Novi Irawan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
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>
> dari computer lain.
>
> Yang pasti saat anda install, anda diminta masukin IP address, Ip
> gateway, password dll.
>
> Begitu selesai install dan kemudian anda colok ipcop anda ke LAN, maka
> dari salah satu komputer client anda sudah bisa browse ke
> https://:81
>
> login disitu kemudian anda bisa utak atik konfigurasi.
>
> -ech-
> http://ech.blogspot.com
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> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:
>
> > maksudnya web broser gimana bro? saya masuk web browsernya dari komputer
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> >
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Behalf
> > Of Novi Irawan
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:52 AM
> > To: ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid.
> > Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah?
> >
> > caranya udah saya kasih tau:
> > 1. donwload file iso
> > 2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb.
> > 3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.
> > 4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat.
> > 5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,
> > dll, next, next sampe finish.
> > 6. restart
> > 7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser
> >
> > Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya
> > sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda
> > mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti
> > linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu
> > interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back,
dll.
> >
> > -ech-
> >
> > On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:
> >
> > > jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on
linux
> > > ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
> > >
> > >
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
tul di IPCOP udah include squid jadi IPCOP = firewall+proxy On 6/7/06, AryaSeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Denis Arifin wrote: > > denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana > bisa > > memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara squid > > dengan IpCop? > > Squid itu Proxy yang fungsi utama nya adalah caching halaman website yg > dikunjungi (CMIIW) > nah klo IPCop itu adalah Firewall "IPCop Firewall is a Linux firewall > distribution geared towards home and SOHO (Small Office/Home Office) > users" > > Sepertinya beda fungsinya, walau di ipcop udah include squid (CMIIW juga) > ;> > > -- > Regards, > > > -inv- @ http://archives.web.id > > > > -- > www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia > Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: > ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## > $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ > > [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Hehehee...di IPCop sudah ada squid-nya mas.
anda tinggal tuning aja.
Nah supaya squidnya ipcop lebih powerfull, tinggal pasang add on tambahan yakni
Adv Proxy. Nah di situ anda bisa atur maximal bandwith per user berapa kbps.
Kalau aku seh max bandwith per user sekitar 128 kbps (16 kBps) coz bandwith
kantor sekitar 512 kbps.
Pake squid/proxy benar2 bisa menghemat bandwiidth karena sudah diatur
pemakaiannnya jadi tidak ada hukum rimba. Dankelihatannya di trafik MRTG-nya
jadi jarang sampai 100% full.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 10:36:37 +0700
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana
bisamemperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara
squiddengan IpCop? Denis Arifin-EDP
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yang bagus> jadi apa yang harus saya siapkan untuk membangun
sistem jaringan yang> stabil?>> Rencana ke depan adalah :>>
1.
Adanya server untuk proxy, serta email internal. (Pengennya sih> dipisah
antara 2 server ini, cuma takut ngak goal ke finance, saat ini> kayanya
jadi 1 server aja dulu deh). Softwarenya apa namanya?> 2. Utk proxy, harus
bisa batasi bandwith, user yang akses internet,> serta jam-nya. Denger
denger kerio winroute bisa. cuma saya dah download> dan> terapkan, kok
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
kalo mo download http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=75366&package_id=75866 Rgrd, Ade Kuswandi --- AryaSeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Denis Arifin wrote: > > denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo > memang iya, dimana bisa > > memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. > powerfull mana antara squid > > dengan IpCop? > > Squid itu Proxy yang fungsi utama nya adalah caching > halaman website yg > dikunjungi (CMIIW) > nah klo IPCop itu adalah Firewall "IPCop Firewall is > a Linux firewall > distribution geared towards home and SOHO (Small > Office/Home Office) users" > > Sepertinya beda fungsinya, walau di ipcop udah > include squid (CMIIW juga) ;> > > -- > Regards, > > > -inv- @ http://archives.web.id > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
silakan download di http://www.serassio.it/SquidNT.htm
free kok... dari pada beli CD ke mangga dua...
Thanks
Christian
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> denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana bisa
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> > jadi apa yang harus saya siapkan untuk membangun sistem jaringan yang
> > stabil?
> >
> > Rencana ke depan adalah :
> >
> > 1. Adanya server untuk proxy, serta email internal. (Pengennya sih
> > dipisah antara 2 server ini, cuma takut ngak goal ke finance, saat ini
> > kayanya jadi 1 server aja dulu deh). Softwarenya apa namanya?
> > 2. Utk proxy, harus bisa batasi bandwith, user yang akses internet,
> > serta jam-nya. Denger denger kerio winroute bisa. cuma saya dah download
> > dan
> > terapkan, kok ngak bisa ya?
> >
> >
> >
> > Denis Arifin
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> 1. masalah bujet, mungkin bisa dipertimbangkan dengan menggunakan software
> opensource / GPL
> 2. winproxy emang bisa, jika tetep masalah bujet silahkan mengacu ke
> jawaban no. 1. untuk proxy dengan fitur tersebut bisa menggunakan squid
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Coba mas pake ClarkConnect. Udah ada firewall-IDS-IPS, MRTG, Qos, Content
Filtering, Web server, NAT 1:1 (bisa s/d 3 NIC), plus email postfix plus
antispam.
Harganya kalau ga salah USD 245.
Tapi untuk atur bandwitdh per user kayaknya belum ada.
Buat kyg udah ngreti linux CC memang kayak mainan.
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From: bayu [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 02:55:02 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
> jadi apa yang harus saya siapkan untuk membangun sistem jaringan yang>
> stabil?>> Rencana ke depan adalah :>> 1. Adanya server
> untuk proxy, serta email internal. (Pengennya sih> dipisah antara 2
> server ini, cuma takut ngak goal ke finance, saat ini> kayanya jadi 1
> server aja dulu deh). Softwarenya apa namanya?> 2. Utk proxy, harus bisa
> batasi bandwith, user yang akses internet,> serta jam-nya. Denger denger
> kerio winroute bisa. cuma saya dah download> dan> terapkan, kok ngak
> bisa ya?>>>> Denis Arifin> -> EDP
> Departement>1. masalah bujet, mungkin bisa dipertimbangkan dengan
> menggunakan softwareopensource / GPL2. winproxy emang bisa, jika
> tetep masalah bujet silahkan mengacu kejawaban no. 1. untuk proxy dengan
> fitur tersebut bisa menggunakan squidsebagai contoh. dan untuk email
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
syiwabhairawa wrote: > --- In ITCENTER@yahoogroups.com, AryaSeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Klo squid ada yang for windows, tapi klo IPCop for windows saya blom >> pernah denger (maklum masih cupu) > > IPCop under WIndows ya tidak ada, karena dia dirancang sebagai > Linux+IPTables firewall/router+DNS Server+Proxy Server+Web Interface > all in one. Tapi anda bisa menjalankan IPCop di atas VMWare emulation > machine. Dan host dari VMWare tentu saja bisa Windows dan Linux. Hehehe, iya pak, makasih info nya ;> > >> Sekedar tambahan, yg pernah saya denger IPCop tidak bisa diinstall dual >> boot dengan OS apapun (CMIIW, Blon pernah cek kebenarannya) ;> > > > Sebetulnya bisa saja, cuman memang installation script dari IPCop itu > terlalu sederhana, krn dirancang supaya mudah gak perlu banyak nanya, > Begitu ada hard disk, disikat semua begitu saja. Jadi sebaiknya > diinstall pertama kali, kemudian dgn tools lain anda melakukan resize, > implant LILO dsb. > > Sebetulnya tujuan anda apa? Kalau mau test test aja, kenapa tidak > dicoba pakai VMWare saja? VMWare bisa jalan di atas Linux ataupun > Windows, kemudian nanti VM machinenya diinstall IPCop. Dgn itu anda > bisa melakukan test dengan mudah. Bahkan kalo kagak salah sudah ada > kok VM machine yang ready to be downloaded udah isi begituan di > sitenya VMWare. Mungkin pertanyaan ini lebih cocok di tujukan ke mas denis arifin, saya cuma menjawab pertanyaan beliau, dengan sedikit tambahan agar pak Denis hati2 jika mau test and trial seperti saya dulu, yg berencana membuat dual boot dengan winxp :) > > VMWare sendiri pakai yng Workstation version. Bisa trial 30 hari. Kalo > udah habis licensenya ya apply lagi, atau kalau VM machine gak perlu > diotak atik, tinggal pakai VMWare Player yang free. > Atau kalau VM machinya gak perlu display, bisa di telnet atau SSH, > pakai aja VMWare ESX yang baru baru ini dibuat free. Saya setuju dengan Pak Syiwa, VMware solusi bagus untuk test and trial IPCop tersebut. -- Regards, -inv- @ http://archives.web.id -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
dari computer lain.
Yang pasti saat anda install, anda diminta masukin IP address, Ip
gateway, password dll.
Begitu selesai install dan kemudian anda colok ipcop anda ke LAN, maka
dari salah satu komputer client anda sudah bisa browse ke
https://:81
login disitu kemudian anda bisa utak atik konfigurasi.
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> maksudnya web broser gimana bro? saya masuk web browsernya dari komputer
> yang dah di install IP Cop? atau dari kompie lain?
>
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>
>
> Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid.
> Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah?
>
> caranya udah saya kasih tau:
> 1. donwload file iso
> 2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb.
> 3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.
> 4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat.
> 5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,
> dll, next, next sampe finish.
> 6. restart
> 7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser
>
> Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya
> sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda
> mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti
> linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu
> interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll.
>
> -ech-
>
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:
>
> > jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
> > ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
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RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
jadi kalo mau install IP Cop bagaimana caranya? bisa langsung boot kan? ngak
harus install linuxnya dulu kan?
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Denis Arifin wrote:
> jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
> ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
Klo saya sendiri sih lebih memilih IPCop, disamping dia Firewall + Squid
juga administrasinya mudah.
Klo squid ada yang for windows, tapi klo IPCop for windows saya blom
pernah denger (maklum masih cupu)
Sekedar tambahan, yg pernah saya denger IPCop tidak bisa diinstall dual
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RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
maksudnya web broser gimana bro? saya masuk web browsernya dari komputer
yang dah di install IP Cop? atau dari kompie lain?
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Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid.
Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah?
caranya udah saya kasih tau:
1. donwload file iso
2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb.
3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC.
4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat.
5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS,
dll, next, next sampe finish.
6. restart
7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser
Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya
sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda
mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti
linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu
interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll.
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote:
> jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
> ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
>
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RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
jadi kalo mau install IP Cop bagaimana caranya? bisa langsung boot kan? ngak
harus install linuxnya dulu kan?
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Denis Arifin wrote:
> jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
> ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
Klo saya sendiri sih lebih memilih IPCop, disamping dia Firewall + Squid
juga administrasinya mudah.
Klo squid ada yang for windows, tapi klo IPCop for windows saya blom
pernah denger (maklum masih cupu)
Sekedar tambahan, yg pernah saya denger IPCop tidak bisa diinstall dual
boot dengan OS apapun (CMIIW, Blon pernah cek kebenarannya) ;>
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RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Ga bisa dibandingin begitu. ipcop sendiri didalamnya ada squid. Ipcop sendiri apa anda sudah coba? gampang apa susah? caranya udah saya kasih tau: 1. donwload file iso 2. Buat sebuah CD installation dengan file iso tsb. 3. Siapkan sebuah PC dengan dua NIC. 4. Boot PC dengan menggunakan CD installation yang barusan di buat. 5. Ikuti step2 installation. Isi parameter installasi: IP Address, DNS, dll, next, next sampe finish. 6. restart 7. Colok ke network, configure via web browser Untuk main2/oprek2 anda bisa gunakan PC tua, tapi untuk production saya sarankan paling tidak PIII keatas dengan memory 256 MB. Sepanjang anda mengerti konsep firewall dan proxy, tidak masalah anda tidak mengerti linux. Anda login ke konsole, pun tampilannya adalah menu interaktif (bukan command prompt) tinggal pilih, next, finish, back, dll. -ech- On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Denis Arifin wrote: > jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux > ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana> > > > Denis Arifin > - > EDP Departement > -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Denis Arifin wrote: > jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux > ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana> Klo saya sendiri sih lebih memilih IPCop, disamping dia Firewall + Squid juga administrasinya mudah. Klo squid ada yang for windows, tapi klo IPCop for windows saya blom pernah denger (maklum masih cupu) Sekedar tambahan, yg pernah saya denger IPCop tidak bisa diinstall dual boot dengan OS apapun (CMIIW, Blon pernah cek kebenarannya) ;> -- Regards, -inv- @ http://archives.web.id -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
jadi jika harus memilih antara SQUID dan IPCOP (dua duanya based on linux
ya? CMIIW). harus milih mana>
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Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Denis Arifin wrote:
> denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana bisa
> memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara squid
> dengan IpCop?
Squid itu Proxy yang fungsi utama nya adalah caching halaman website yg
dikunjungi (CMIIW)
nah klo IPCop itu adalah Firewall "IPCop Firewall is a Linux firewall
distribution geared towards home and SOHO (Small Office/Home Office) users"
Sepertinya beda fungsinya, walau di ipcop udah include squid (CMIIW juga) ;>
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
Denis Arifin wrote: > denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana bisa > memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara squid > dengan IpCop? Squid itu Proxy yang fungsi utama nya adalah caching halaman website yg dikunjungi (CMIIW) nah klo IPCop itu adalah Firewall "IPCop Firewall is a Linux firewall distribution geared towards home and SOHO (Small Office/Home Office) users" Sepertinya beda fungsinya, walau di ipcop udah include squid (CMIIW juga) ;> -- Regards, -inv- @ http://archives.web.id -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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denger denger katanya squid under windows ya? kalo memang iya, dimana bisa
memperolehnya? apa bisa di mangga dua? ^_^. powerfull mana antara squid
dengan IpCop?
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> jadi apa yang harus saya siapkan untuk membangun sistem jaringan yang
> stabil?
>
> Rencana ke depan adalah :
>
> 1. Adanya server untuk proxy, serta email internal. (Pengennya sih
> dipisah antara 2 server ini, cuma takut ngak goal ke finance, saat ini
> kayanya jadi 1 server aja dulu deh). Softwarenya apa namanya?
> 2. Utk proxy, harus bisa batasi bandwith, user yang akses internet,
> serta jam-nya. Denger denger kerio winroute bisa. cuma saya dah download
> dan
> terapkan, kok ngak bisa ya?
>
>
>
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1. masalah bujet, mungkin bisa dipertimbangkan dengan menggunakan software
opensource / GPL
2. winproxy emang bisa, jika tetep masalah bujet silahkan mengacu ke
jawaban no. 1. untuk proxy dengan fitur tersebut bisa menggunakan squid
sebagai contoh. dan untuk email banyak pilihannya, salah satunya
menggunakan postfix dan cyrus, atau kalo kaya exchange bisa coba scalix
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Re: {Disarmed} RE: [ITCENTER] Re: Firewall yang bagus
> jadi apa yang harus saya siapkan untuk membangun sistem jaringan yang > stabil? > > Rencana ke depan adalah : > > 1.Adanya server untuk proxy, serta email internal. (Pengennya sih > dipisah antara 2 server ini, cuma takut ngak goal ke finance, saat ini > kayanya jadi 1 server aja dulu deh). Softwarenya apa namanya? > 2.Utk proxy, harus bisa batasi bandwith, user yang akses internet, > serta jam-nya. Denger denger kerio winroute bisa. cuma saya dah download > dan > terapkan, kok ngak bisa ya? > > > > Denis Arifin > - > EDP Departement > 1. masalah bujet, mungkin bisa dipertimbangkan dengan menggunakan software opensource / GPL 2. winproxy emang bisa, jika tetep masalah bujet silahkan mengacu ke jawaban no. 1. untuk proxy dengan fitur tersebut bisa menggunakan squid sebagai contoh. dan untuk email banyak pilihannya, salah satunya menggunakan postfix dan cyrus, atau kalo kaya exchange bisa coba scalix -- Email sudah discan menggunakan MailScanner. -- www.itcenter.or.id - Komunitas Teknologi Informasi Indonesia Info, Gabung, Keluar, Mode Kirim : [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Hapus bagian yang tidak perlu (footer, dst) saat reply! :: ## Jobs: itcenter.or.id/jobs ## Bursa: itcenter.or.id/bursa ## $$ Iklan/promosi : www.itcenter.or.id/sponsorship $$ [@@] Jaket ITCENTER tersedia di http://shop.itcenter.or.id Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ITCENTER/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
