[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-12 Thread Michael McCandless (JIRA)

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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1748:


Patch looks good... just need to fix back-compat tests.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-12 Thread Michael McCandless (JIRA)

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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1748:


bq. I'm tempted to make Spans abstract. 

+1

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-11 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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I'm tempted to make Spans abstract. We don't get these chances often. We 
managed to make Weight abstract for 2.9, and I think similar logic applies 
here. We are already breaking the interface - why not go abstract as well? Its 
a little more trouble, but we are already so far up the creak, it could be 
worth it no? Its very hard to get rid of these interfaces in a normal 
situation, and a better opportunity may not present itself.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Thanks Hugh!

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-04 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Okay - my first time messing with the back compat tests, and changing the src 
felt dirty - but nothing else that can be done, and as you say, it doesn't hurt 
anything. Ive got things worked out locally.

I'll give a shot at commiting this later today.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-04 Thread Michael McCandless (JIRA)

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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1748:


Can you make the corresponding changes to the backcompat branch's sources & 
tests?  Note that they only need to be "stubs", so that things compile, since 
it's the trunk's JAR that they'll be tested against.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-03 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Has something like this come up in the past? How was the back compat branch 
handled? Should I just remove the PayloadSpans test? It doesn't seem right to 
apply the patch to the back compat src - it wouldn't apply cleanly anyway, and 
it doesn't seem right to fit it in. I guess it may not matter though? I'm just 
worried it will be like pulling a string ...

the issue:
The PayloadSpans test was made to test PayloadSpans - but that class shouldn't 
have been made and the methods from it have been added to Spans, and its been 
removed. Now the back compat branch test won't compile against the back compat 
src.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch, LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-08-02 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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I'm going to commit this to the backcompat branch as well - I can't just change 
the tests - the src has to be changed as well because the tests compile against 
it rather than trunk.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-29 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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This is going to require a patch to the 2.4 back compat branch to pass tests.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
>Assignee: Mark Miller
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-24 Thread Hugh Cayless (JIRA)

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Hugh Cayless commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Just wanted to say thanks for your responsiveness on this.  It really validates 
my faith in Lucene as a project.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
> Attachments: LUCENE-1748.patch
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-18 Thread Earwin Burrfoot (JIRA)

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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1748:
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bq. We should drop PayloadSpans and just add getPayload to Spans. This should 
be a compile time break.
+1

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-17 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Something should be done here. I admit I havn't spent a lot of time thinking 
yet, but off the cuff :

1. We should drop PayloadSpans and just add getPayload to Spans. This should be 
a compile time break.

2. We need a way to *not* collect payloads. Now they will be collected if they 
are there whether they are used or not. Perhaps an argument in the SpanQuery 
constructor? It can't really be getSpans because the user would need to control 
it.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.9, 3.0, 3.1
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Okay, so it says: Implementing classes that want access to the payloads will 
need to implement this.

But in reality, if you don't implement it, looks like your screwed if you add 
it to the container SpanQueries. whether you access the payloads or not.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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bq. the whole getPayloadSpans deal is a herecy.

heh. don't dig too deep - it also has to load all of the payloads as it matches 
whether you ask for them or not (if they exist).

The ordered or unordered matcher also has to load them and dump them in certain 
situation when they are not actually needed.

Lets look at what we need to do to fix this - we don't have to worry too much 
about back compat, cause its already pretty screwed I think.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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bq. From my perspective at least, backwards compatibility is already broken, 
since Lucene doesn't work with SpanQuerys that don't implement getPayloadSpans

Ah, I see - I hadn't looked at this issue in a long time. It looks like you 
must implement it to do much of anything right?

We need to address this better - perhaps abstract is the way to go.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Earwin Burrfoot (JIRA)

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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1748:
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I took a glance at the code, the whole getPayloadSpans deal is a herecy.

Each and every implementation looks like:
  public PayloadSpans getPayloadSpans(IndexReader reader) throws IOException {
return (PayloadSpans) getSpans(reader);
  }

Moving it to the base SpanQuery is broken equally to current solution, but 
yields much less strange copypaste.

I also have a faint feeling that if you expose a method like
ClassA method();
you can then upgrade it to
SubclassOfClassA method();
without breaking drop-in compatibility, which renders getPayloadSpans vs 
getSpans alternative totally useless

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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My response sent to mailing list:

>>bq. Shouldnt it throw a runtime exception (unsupported operation?) or 
>>something?
>>What is the difference between adding an abstract method and adding a method 
>>that throws exception in regards to jar drop in back compat?
>>In both cases when you drop your new jar in you get an exception, except in 
>>the latter case exception is deferred.

Yeah, its dicey - I suppose the idea is that, if you used the code as you used 
to, it wouldnt try and call getPayloadSpans? And so if you kept using non 
payloadspans functionality, you would be set, and if you tried to use 
payloadspans you would get an exception saying the class needed to be updated? 
But if you make it abstract, we lose jar drop (I know I've read we don't have 
it for this release anyway) in and everyone has to implement the method. At 
least with the exception, if you are using the class as you used to, you can 
continue to do so with no work? Not that I 've considered it for very long at 
the moment.

I know, I see your point - this back compat stuff is always dicey - thats why I 
throw it out there with a question mark - hopefully others will continue to 
chime in.
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> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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Re: [jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller
>>bq. Shouldnt it throw a runtime exception (unsupported operation?) or
something?
>>What is the difference between adding an abstract method and adding a
method that throws exception in regards to jar drop in back compat?
>>In both cases when you drop your new jar in you get an exception, except
in the latter case exception is deferred.

Yeah, its dicey - I suppose the idea is that, if you used the code as you
used to, it wouldnt try and call getPayloadSpans? And so if you kept using
non payloadspans functionality, you would be set, and if you tried to use
payloadspans you would get an exception saying the class needed to be
updated? But if you make it abstract, we lose jar drop (I know I've read we
don't have it for this release anyway) in and everyone has to implement the
method. At least with the exception, if you are using the class as you used
to, you can continue to do so with no work? Not that I 've considered it for
very long at the moment.

I know, I see your point - this back compat stuff is always dicey - thats
why I throw it out there with a question mark - hopefully others will
continue to chime in.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Earwin Burrfoot (JIRA) wrote:

>
>[
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12731939#action_12731939]
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> Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1748:
> -
>
> bq. Shouldnt it throw a runtime exception (unsupported operation?) or
> something?
> What is the difference between adding an abstract method and adding a
> method that throws exception in regards to jar drop in back compat?
> In both cases when you drop your new jar in you get an exception, except in
> the latter case exception is deferred.
>
> > getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be
> abstract
> >
> --
> >
> > Key: LUCENE-1748
> > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> > Project: Lucene - Java
> >  Issue Type: Bug
> >  Components: Query/Scoring
> >Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> > Environment: all
> >Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> > Fix For: 2.4.2
> >
> >
> > I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code,
> far away from the actual source of the problem.
> > It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile
> time, I think.
> > Thanks!
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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Hugh Cayless (JIRA)

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Hugh Cayless commented on LUCENE-1748:
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Ah.  I figured it would be something like that.  Yes, if abstract isn't 
possible, an UnsupportedOperationException would at least get closer to the 
source of the problem.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Earwin Burrfoot (JIRA)

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Earwin Burrfoot commented on LUCENE-1748:
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bq. Shouldnt it throw a runtime exception (unsupported operation?) or something?
What is the difference between adding an abstract method and adding a method 
that throws exception in regards to jar drop in back compat?
In both cases when you drop your new jar in you get an exception, except in the 
latter case exception is deferred.

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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[jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1748) getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract

2009-07-16 Thread Mark Miller (JIRA)

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Mark Miller commented on LUCENE-1748:
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The reason it has a default impl is so that it won't break jar drop in back 
compat - if it was abstract, it would violate our back compat requirements.

But you make a most excellent point. Shouldnt it throw a runtime exception 
(unsupported operation?) or something?

> getPayloadSpans on org.apache.lucene.search.spans.SpanQuery should be abstract
> --
>
> Key: LUCENE-1748
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1748
> Project: Lucene - Java
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Query/Scoring
>Affects Versions: 2.4, 2.4.1
> Environment: all
>Reporter: Hugh Cayless
> Fix For: 2.4.2
>
>
> I just spent a long time tracking down a bug resulting from upgrading to 
> Lucene 2.4.1 on a project that implements some SpanQuerys of its own and was 
> written against 2.3.  Since the project's SpanQuerys didn't implement 
> getPayloadSpans, the call to that method went to SpanQuery.getPayloadSpans 
> which returned null and caused a NullPointerException in the Lucene code, far 
> away from the actual source of the problem.  
> It would be much better for this kind of thing to show up at compile time, I 
> think.
> Thanks!

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