Re: access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-27 Thread Daniel Naber
On Wednesday 27 December 2006 01:38, Erik Hatcher wrote:

 I'd be surprised if anyone uses Lucli, given the limited utility it  
 has versus using Luke.

It's actually very useful if you only have ssh access to a machine that has 
no X11 running. I just fixed the small bug found by this review.

Regards
 Daniel

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Re: access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-26 Thread Brian Chess
Hi there, I didn't see any replies to my question about what to do with
outside auditors for the Java Open Revew Project. Our default position is
that we do not allow access to outsiders without permission from the code
maintainers, so unless I hear otherwise, we won't grant access to outsiders
for Lucene projects.  That's a fine policy as far as I'm concerned.  I just
wanted to let people know where we stand.

Meanwhile, we're moving closer to performing regular analysis of the code.
On Friday we uploaded our second pass at Lucene.  I only took a quick glance
through the results, but this one caught my eye:

Lucli.java line 286:
name.toLowerCase(); //treat uppercase and lower case commands the same

I'm pretty sure that line should be:
name = name.toLowerCase();

I'll send another note when we've switched over to a regular recurring
analysis.

Happy holidays,
Brian


 From: Brian Chess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:16:06 -0800
 To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org
 Conversation: access policy for Java Open Review Project
 Subject: access policy for Java Open Review Project
 
 Hi all, I've been busy creating JOR accounts this weekend, and it was cool to
 see so many names from Lucene.  Lucene, Solr, and Nutch have the lowest defect
 rates among the projects we've looked at, and I'm beginning to see why.
 
 One of the things JOR is doing is inviting people to come and help review
 issues we find with static analysis.  We've had a fair number of signups
 since the project was on slashdot.
 
 My question is, would you like to allow outsiders to go through results and
 help sort the real bugs from the chaff?  The upside is that volunteers may
 perform useful work and that it may be another avenue to get people involved
 with the code.  The down side is that things like XSS in admin pages may lead
 them to make more ruckus than is really appropriate.
 
 The situation may change if we can establish a mechanism for efficiently
 moving issues into Jira, but for now, I could imagine a number of different
 policies, including:
   - Allow anyone access who asks for it.
   - Allow access on a case-by-case basis.
   - Don't allow access to outsiders.
 
 Here are the outsiders who've requested access so far, along with a few
 words to summarize what they've told me about themselves.
 
 Lucene
 --
 Varun Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]: budding code auditor at TCS
 Martin Englund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Experienced auditor at Sun
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like he's just testing the waters
 
 Lucene, Nutch, Solr
 --
 Thierry De Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced vulnerability hunter
 Michael Bunzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced auditor, but new to
 auditing Java
 
 Thoughts?
 Brian


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Re: access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-26 Thread Erik Hatcher

Brian,

Thanks for your continued efforts, and for this report about Lucli.

I'd be surprised if anyone uses Lucli, given the limited utility it  
has versus using Luke.


Erik


On Dec 26, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Brian Chess wrote:

Hi there, I didn't see any replies to my question about what to do  
with
outside auditors for the Java Open Revew Project. Our default  
position is
that we do not allow access to outsiders without permission from  
the code
maintainers, so unless I hear otherwise, we won't grant access to  
outsiders
for Lucene projects.  That's a fine policy as far as I'm  
concerned.  I just

wanted to let people know where we stand.

Meanwhile, we're moving closer to performing regular analysis of  
the code.
On Friday we uploaded our second pass at Lucene.  I only took a  
quick glance

through the results, but this one caught my eye:

Lucli.java line 286:
name.toLowerCase(); //treat uppercase and lower case commands  
the same


I'm pretty sure that line should be:
name = name.toLowerCase();

I'll send another note when we've switched over to a regular recurring
analysis.

Happy holidays,
Brian



From: Brian Chess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:16:06 -0800
To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org
Conversation: access policy for Java Open Review Project
Subject: access policy for Java Open Review Project

Hi all, I've been busy creating JOR accounts this weekend, and it  
was cool to
see so many names from Lucene.  Lucene, Solr, and Nutch have the  
lowest defect
rates among the projects we've looked at, and I'm beginning to see  
why.


One of the things JOR is doing is inviting people to come and help  
review
issues we find with static analysis.  We've had a fair number of  
signups

since the project was on slashdot.

My question is, would you like to allow outsiders to go through  
results and
help sort the real bugs from the chaff?  The upside is that  
volunteers may
perform useful work and that it may be another avenue to get  
people involved
with the code.  The down side is that things like XSS in admin  
pages may lead

them to make more ruckus than is really appropriate.

The situation may change if we can establish a mechanism for  
efficiently
moving issues into Jira, but for now, I could imagine a number of  
different

policies, including:
  - Allow anyone access who asks for it.
  - Allow access on a case-by-case basis.
  - Don't allow access to outsiders.

Here are the outsiders who've requested access so far, along  
with a few

words to summarize what they've told me about themselves.

Lucene
--
Varun Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]: budding code auditor at TCS
Martin Englund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Experienced auditor at Sun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like he's just testing the waters

Lucene, Nutch, Solr
--
Thierry De Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced vulnerability  
hunter

Michael Bunzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced auditor, but new to
auditing Java

Thoughts?
Brian



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Re: access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-19 Thread Grant Ingersoll


On Dec 19, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Brian Chess wrote:



My question is, would you like to allow outsiders to go through  
results and
help sort the real bugs from the chaff?  The upside is that  
volunteers may
perform useful work and that it may be another avenue to get people  
involved
with the code.  The down side is that things like XSS in admin  
pages may

lead them to make more ruckus than is really appropriate.


Are there any security concerns (I think your original intro said you  
don't generally share w/ the public) of having others involved?  That  
is, could we be publishing information that could make a Lucene  
application vulnerable or is really just a ruckus issue?  Part of  
me thinks that b/c the code is freely available, people could find  
the security issues anyway, so we aren't really protecting ourselves  
anyway by denying access.


Thanks, btw, for the account and for setting this up.


--
Grant Ingersoll
Center for Natural Language Processing
http://www.cnlp.org

Read the Lucene Java FAQ at http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-lucene/ 
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Re: access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-19 Thread Doug Cutting

Brian Chess wrote:

My question is, would you like to allow outsiders to go through results and
help sort the real bugs from the chaff?


That's up to you.  It's your service, not governed by the Apache Lucene 
project.  If you cause your system to add reasonable issues to our 
bug-tracking system, then we will take over from there.  If you wish to 
provide a free service that we administer, then the project should vote 
to decide whether it wants to take on that duty.


Doug

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access policy for Java Open Review Project

2006-12-18 Thread Brian Chess
Hi all, I've been busy creating JOR accounts this weekend, and it was cool
to see so many names from Lucene.  Lucene, Solr, and Nutch have the lowest
defect rates among the projects we've looked at, and I'm beginning to see
why.

One of the things JOR is doing is inviting people to come and help review
issues we find with static analysis.  We've had a fair number of signups
since the project was on slashdot.

My question is, would you like to allow outsiders to go through results and
help sort the real bugs from the chaff?  The upside is that volunteers may
perform useful work and that it may be another avenue to get people involved
with the code.  The down side is that things like XSS in admin pages may
lead them to make more ruckus than is really appropriate.

The situation may change if we can establish a mechanism for efficiently
moving issues into Jira, but for now, I could imagine a number of different
policies, including:
  - Allow anyone access who asks for it.
  - Allow access on a case-by-case basis.
  - Don't allow access to outsiders.

Here are the outsiders who've requested access so far, along with a few
words to summarize what they've told me about themselves.

Lucene
--
Varun Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED]: budding code auditor at TCS
Martin Englund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Experienced auditor at Sun
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like he's just testing the waters

Lucene, Nutch, Solr
--
Thierry De Leeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced vulnerability hunter
Michael Bunzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: experienced auditor, but new to
auditing Java

Thoughts?
Brian


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