[java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java

2009-08-25 Thread m...@larshermes.de
well, the simplest reason could be that there are different teams and the one 
that is responsible for the frontend stuff is only able to write c# apps, or 
the backend functinality should be integrated in an existing c# app or or or - 
java IS a delightful language/platform, but the reasons will be manifold to use 
other languages/platforms and they all have there pros and cons

nevertheless imho decoupling functionality via webservices IS a good 
architectural style as it's the foundation of SOA and you are for example free 
to exchange the backend without any problems and you can even implementent the 
frontend in cobol if you want ;-)

just my 2ct
Lars 


bilal malik bam_u...@yahoo.com hat am 25. August 2009 um 07:12 geschrieben:

 Hello Dear,
 
 I don't understand why should people chose this kind of architecture,when we 
 have good front end support from java itself and I am also thinking that will 
 move us away from philosophy of write once and run anywhere.
 
 we have an architecture where Back-end is written in C++ and front end in 
 Java.Well personally I am thinking it is there for historical reasons that 
 c++ is elder to java and probably our company doesn't want to make c++ gurus 
 jobless or invest more money in re-writting the application.
 I personally feel we don't need anything other than java in an architecture 
 where java is involved.
 I am not sure if I am getting emotional about it coz I started java in 2000 
 and was able to understand learn and understand this language like any 
 natural language.I always hated pointers and always taught it is not good 
 thinking that we have to remember to release the memory to avoid memory leaks.
 well C# have all these features but I am not sure why it should be used at 
 the place where java is already used and we want to have separate builds for 
 Linux,HP-Unix,..
 
 I request people to respond on this and want to know mainly from Architects 
 what that think.
 
 Thanks,
 Bilal Malik
 
 
 --- On Mon, 24/8/09, Nirmal Kumar nirmal.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Nirmal Kumar nirmal.h...@gmail.com
 Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java
 To: m...@larshermes.de
 Cc: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion! 
 java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com, laptop...@gmail.com
 Date: Monday, 24 August, 2009, 2:30 PM
 
 Hi,
 Lars said it correct.
 
 Currently our project also uses the same architecture.
 
 
 Back-end(Business Logic + Database Access) is done in a Session Bean. Then 
 this Session Bean is exposed via Web Service.
 
 
 
 The front end part is in .NET framework which actually invokes the methods of 
 the Web Service.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Nirmal
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 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Lars Hermes m...@larshermes.de wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 
 
 I think the easist way to do this is to implement the backend
 
 functionality as a session bean and expose this bean as webservice.
 
 The webservice can then be called by the C# frontend.
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Lars
 
 
 
 Am 22.08.2009 um 17:04 schrieb swetha:
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi GuysCan any1 tell me how we can use both C# and Java in a
 
  single applicationfor example i want to add two numbers ...is it
 
  possible to do like.create front end(GUI) using C# and then do
 
  back end in Java (adding both the numbers) .and then displaying it
 
  back on the screen...can any1 please help me on this.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java

2009-08-24 Thread Nirmal Kumar
Hi,
Lars said it correct.

Currently our project also uses the same architecture.
Back-end(Business Logic + Database Access) is done in a Session Bean. Then
this Session Bean is exposed via Web Service.

The front end part is in .NET framework which actually invokes the methods
of the Web Service.

Thanks,
Nirmal
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Lars Hermes m...@larshermes.de wrote:


 Hi,

 I think the easist way to do this is to implement the backend
 functionality as a session bean and expose this bean as webservice.
 The webservice can then be called by the C# frontend.

 Cheers,
 Lars

 Am 22.08.2009 um 17:04 schrieb swetha:

 
  Hi GuysCan any1 tell me how we can use both C# and Java in a
  single applicationfor example i want to add two numbers ...is it
  possible to do like.create front end(GUI) using C# and then do
  back end in Java (adding both the numbers) .and then displaying it
  back on the screen...can any1 please help me on this.
 
  


 


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[java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java

2009-08-24 Thread Swamy V
Use javafx for GUI.  Checkout   www.javafx.com for more details.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Nirmal Kumar nirmal.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Lars said it correct.

 Currently our project also uses the same architecture.
 Back-end(Business Logic + Database Access) is done in a Session Bean. Then
 this Session Bean is exposed via Web Service.

 The front end part is in .NET framework which actually invokes the methods
 of the Web Service.

 Thanks,
 Nirmal
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 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Lars Hermes m...@larshermes.de wrote:


 Hi,

 I think the easist way to do this is to implement the backend
 functionality as a session bean and expose this bean as webservice.
 The webservice can then be called by the C# frontend.

 Cheers,
 Lars

 Am 22.08.2009 um 17:04 schrieb swetha:

 
  Hi GuysCan any1 tell me how we can use both C# and Java in a
  single applicationfor example i want to add two numbers ...is it
  possible to do like.create front end(GUI) using C# and then do
  back end in Java (adding both the numbers) .and then displaying it
  back on the screen...can any1 please help me on this.
 
  





 


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[java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java

2009-08-24 Thread bilal malik
Hello Dear,

I don't understand why should people chose this kind of architecture,when we 
have good front end support from java itself and I am also thinking that will 
move us away from philosophy of write once and run anywhere.

we have an architecture where Back-end is written in C++ and front end in 
Java.Well personally I am thinking it is there for historical reasons that c++ 
is elder to java and probably our company doesn't want to make c++ gurus 
jobless or invest more money in re-writting the application.
I personally feel we don't need anything other than java in an architecture 
where java is involved.
I am not sure if I am getting emotional about it coz I started java in 2000 and 
was able to understand learn and understand this language like any natural 
language.I always hated pointers and always taught it is not good thinking that 
we have to remember to release the memory to avoid memory leaks.
well C# have all these features but I am not sure why it should be used at the 
place where java is already used and we want to have separate builds for 
Linux,HP-Unix,..

I request people to respond on this and want to know mainly from Architects 
what that think.

Thanks,
Bilal Malik


--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Nirmal Kumar nirmal.h...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Nirmal Kumar nirmal.h...@gmail.com
Subject: [java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java
To: m...@larshermes.de
Cc: Java EE (J2EE) Programming with Passion! 
java-ee-j2ee-programming-with-passion@googlegroups.com, laptop...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, 24 August, 2009, 2:30 PM

Hi,
Lars said it correct.

Currently our project also uses the same architecture.


Back-end(Business Logic + Database Access) is done in a Session Bean. Then this 
Session Bean is exposed via Web Service.



The front end part is in .NET framework which actually invokes the methods of 
the Web Service.

Thanks,


Nirmal
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On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Lars Hermes m...@larshermes.de wrote:




Hi,



I think the easist way to do this is to implement the backend

functionality as a session bean and expose this bean as webservice.

The webservice can then be called by the C# frontend.



Cheers,

Lars



Am 22.08.2009 um 17:04 schrieb swetha:





 Hi GuysCan any1 tell me how we can use both C# and Java in a

 single applicationfor example i want to add two numbers ...is it

 possible to do like.create front end(GUI) using C# and then do

 back end in Java (adding both the numbers) .and then displaying it

 back on the screen...can any1 please help me on this.



 

















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[java ee programming] Re: Using both C# and Java

2009-08-22 Thread Lars Hermes

Hi,

I think the easist way to do this is to implement the backend  
functionality as a session bean and expose this bean as webservice.  
The webservice can then be called by the C# frontend.

Cheers,
Lars

Am 22.08.2009 um 17:04 schrieb swetha:


 Hi GuysCan any1 tell me how we can use both C# and Java in a
 single applicationfor example i want to add two numbers ...is it
 possible to do like.create front end(GUI) using C# and then do
 back end in Java (adding both the numbers) .and then displaying it
 back on the screen...can any1 please help me on this.

 


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