Re: Trying to use LessTif with jdk1.1.6-v2

1998-07-10 Thread Roland Parviainen



On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, B. Craig Taverner wrote:

> > You have to rebuild JDK with LessTif. Attempts to run JDK binaries linked with
> > Motif against LessTif result in cores. I tried it myself.
> 
> Is it not possible for blackdown to distribute a lesstif version of the
> jdk?  I for one would be interested to try it out, particularly for the
> dynamic library and possible reduced memory usage.
> 
> Cheers, Craig
> 

I have used the blackdown jdk port (jdk1.1.5 to jdk1.1.6v2, glibc) with
lesstif for a couple of months without problems, and I haven't rebuilt the
jdk binaries... I just set the DYN_JAVA variable and it worked. (And it
also made the swedish characters (åäö) work in ICQ for java.)


//Roland Parviainen



Re: Slackware & jdk116v2

1998-07-10 Thread peter johnson



Casiraghi Luigi wrote:

> I received a SIGSEGV   11*  segmentation violation.
>
> Here is my configuration:
>
> Linux Slackware 3.0 (kernel 2.0.0)
> jdk1.1.6v2
> libc5 (I upgraded to libc to libc5.4.44 and also ld as recommended)
>
> ldconfig -D output
>
> ldconfig: version 1.9.9
> libdl.so.1 => libdl.so.1.9.9
> ld-linux.so.1 => ld-linux.so.1.9.9

There have been other complaints about these versions; I think you need to
downgrade to 1.9.5 or so.

> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libmenu.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
> (libmenu.so.3.0)
> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpanel.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
> (libpanel.so.3.0)
> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libform.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
> (libform.so.3.0)
> ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
> (libncurses.so.3.0)
>

I've never seen this before, but it looks like you're missing a library or two.

Hope this helps.

Peter Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Slackware & jdk116v2

1998-07-10 Thread Casiraghi Luigi


In data 05.08 10/07/98 -0700, peter johnson ha scritto:

>
>
>Casiraghi Luigi wrote:
>
>> I received a SIGSEGV   11*  segmentation violation.
>>
>> Here is my configuration:
>>
>> Linux Slackware 3.0 (kernel 2.0.0)
>> jdk1.1.6v2
>> libc5 (I upgraded to libc to libc5.4.44 and also ld as recommended)
>>
>> ldconfig -D output
>>
>> ldconfig: version 1.9.9
>> libdl.so.1 => libdl.so.1.9.9
>> ld-linux.so.1 => ld-linux.so.1.9.9
>
>There have been other complaints about these versions; I think you need to
>downgrade to 1.9.5 or so.
>

Yes, done. And effectively the appletviewer don't crash but this is
a partial solution since other people like Vliet have the problem
that can't downgrade so easily on their machine because this cause
other applications to break.

>> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libmenu.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
>> (libmenu.so.3.0)
>> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpanel.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
>> (libpanel.so.3.0)
>> ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libform.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
>> (libform.so.3.0)
>> ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname
>> (libncurses.so.3.0)
>>
>
>I've never seen this before, but it looks like you're missing a library or
two.
>

The warning should be not so dangerous (or at least I hope)
because I have no messages or strange behaviour.

One more question:
considering my actual configuration:

Linux Slackware 3.0 (kernel 2.0.0)
jdk1.1.6v2
libc5 (I upgraded to libc to libc5.4.44 and also ld as recommended)

is it possible for me to upgrade to glibc ?? or I can't ??

Thanks in advance.

Luigi Casiraghi 
Dufrital SPA
lcasi@linux1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EDP SEDE
--
When Linux doesn't work as it is supposed to, it's a bug. According to
MicroSoft(tm)  NT have no bugs, it just randomly develop new features.
--




Re: Trying to use LessTif with jdk1.1.6-v2

1998-07-10 Thread Peter Ziobrzynski

Roland Parviainen wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, B. Craig Taverner wrote:
> 
> > > You have to rebuild JDK with LessTif. Attempts to run JDK binaries linked with
> > > Motif against LessTif result in cores. I tried it myself.
> >
> > Is it not possible for blackdown to distribute a lesstif version of the
> > jdk?  I for one would be interested to try it out, particularly for the
> > dynamic library and possible reduced memory usage.
> >
> > Cheers, Craig
> >
> 
> I have used the blackdown jdk port (jdk1.1.5 to jdk1.1.6v2, glibc) with
> lesstif for a couple of months without problems, and I haven't rebuilt the
> jdk binaries... I just set the DYN_JAVA variable and it worked. (And it
> also made the swedish characters (åäö) work in ICQ for java.)
> 
> //Roland Parviainen


Interesting. Do you remember which version of lesstif-current you used? My tests
are based on 1.18 with last change in ChanageLog done on 1998/03/24 23:00:45.

cheers - Peter
-- 
Peter Ziobrzynski, http://www.pzi.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Michael Rohleder

Tom Sedge writes:
 > I don't think they are ready with their JDK yet - couldn't find that on
 > the site.

I also could not find any pricing information about turboj...

-- 
A diplomat is man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never her age.
-- Robert Frost



Re: javac coredumps

1998-07-10 Thread REGNUS Gensky

On 10 Jul 1998, Albert Lai wrote:

> Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I download jdk1.1.6 and installed on redhat linux 5.0.  When I type javac,
> > it just coredumps.  I didn't use tar zxvf file.gz to untar the jdk,
> > instead I use gunzip < file.gz| tar -xvf -
> > Is this a problem?
> 
> The way you unpacked the package is not a problem.  There are several
> crash reports like yours on this list.  Now, I use Red Hat 5.0 as
> well, and I don't get a crash.  You may like to apply all Red Hat
> errata, especially those concerning the system libraries.  You may
> also like to try out the rpm in Red Hat contrib.
> 
I use RH5.0 and I also found the jdk1.1.6-v2 to crash but not the
jdk1.1.6-v1 which runs fine.

Au revoir, A bientot.
Gensky Regnus
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Re: java map engines

1998-07-10 Thread A . KLOS


Maybe you could check out a library called Carnac from INT
http://www.int.com

I don't know how far the mapping stiff goes, but I briefly saw some  
demos of this toolkit and one of them, displayed some maps.

Cheers,
Addy.

|
| I'm also searching for some Java based GIS tools.
|
| You can look at:
| http://www.gislinx.com/java.html
|
| I still don't know which one to choose,
| if you come across some good package,
| please let me know.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Sze Yuen
| -Original Message-
| From: B. Craig Taverner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: Java Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date: Thursday, July 09, 1998 2:48 PM
| Subject: java map engines
|
|
| Hi,
|
| Does anyone know of any java based generic map toolkits written in pure
| java (so I can run on linux, solaris and win32)?  Something that will
| allow me to easily add a map (vector &| bitmap) into my applications with
| the ability to place custom objects/components on the map.
| I've not looked too closely at java2D, but have been given the impression
| that it's too graphics/presentation orientated, and not nearly enough map
| specific features.
|
| Cheers, Craig
|
| --
| "Basic, n.:
| A programming language.  Related to certain social diseases in
| that those who have it will not admit it in polite company."
|
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|
|
|  



very obscure bug in JDK1.1.6

1998-07-10 Thread Bengt Kleberg

Greetings,

I have JDK1.1.6v2 (glibc) from Blackdown on a Linux (RedHat5.1) x86 computer.

When doing the Together/J 2.0 (Whiteboard Edition, see http://www.oi.com) tutorial I 
find
that it is impossible to enter caps (LIKE THIS) in the source editor (Text pane).
This inability includes all shifted characters, like (, ), { and }. Object 
International claims
that this bug i impossible to reproduce on a Windows JDK.

I have tried Sun's JDK1.1.6 on Solaris2.6 x86 (with the neccessary patch). Exactly
the same problem

Unfortunatly I have been unable to reproduce the error with a simple test case.
So this is more of a FYI, than a real bug report.

Best Wishes, Bengt



RE: NetBeans

1998-07-10 Thread Peter Schuller

> I wonder, did anyone try to run NetBeans on Linux? When I tried to
> run it I got only very nice welcome screen and after this nothing
> happened.

If you're on 1.1.5v7 that happens almost all the time. In 1.1.6v2 it happens
sometimes, but just try again and it should work. That's my experience at
least.

Unfortunately, NetBeans hangs "now and then" after it's up and running. and
consumes A LOT of CPU. Around 40% by just sitting there doing nothing , on my
P133.

/ Peter Schuller



JDK1.1.6-v2: appletviewer doesn't start

1998-07-10 Thread Burkhard Perkens

I've downloaded the JDK1.1.6-v2 on my Debian 2.0 and
can't get a simple applet running:

import java.applet.*;
import java.awt.*;

public class AppletTest extends Applet {
  public void paint(Graphics g) {;}
}


Works fine with JDK1.1.5 (I've to resize the window to see anything,
but this bug should be fixed in 1.1.6). 
With 1.1.6 the applet-window opens and I get on the xterm:


java.lang.NullPointerException
at sun.applet.AppletViewer.(AppletViewer.java:237)
at
sun.applet.StdAppletViewerFactory.createAppletViewer(AppletViewer.java:87)
at sun.applet.AppletViewer.parse(AppletViewer.java:938)
at sun.applet.AppletViewer.parse(AppletViewer.java:904)
at sun.applet.AppletViewer.main(AppletViewer.java:1081)
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: handleEvent
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1817)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:939)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:443)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1704)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:63)
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: handleEvent
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1817)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1704)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:63)
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: handleEvent
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1817)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:939)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:443)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1704)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:63)
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: handleEvent
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1817)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:939)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:443)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1704)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:63)
Exception occurred during event dispatching:
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: handleEvent
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:1817)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:939)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:443)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:1704)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:63)

and so on :-(.

I've tried to draw things in the paint-methode, no effect. And I've no
idea where to look for a bug or misconfiguration.

I've included the "ldconfi -D" on the bottom.

Please help! Thanks!

Burkhard


P.S.: With JDK1.1.5 I've had difficulties with fonts (the
special german characters), perhaps a misconfiguration of my
X. Don't know wether there's a connection.




Output of "ldconfig -D"


ldconfig: version 1.9.9
/usr/X11R6/lib/Xaw3d:
/usr/X11R6/lib:
libMesatk.so.2 => libMesatk.so.2.6
libMesaaux.so.2 => libMesaaux.so.2.6
libMesaGLw.so.2 => libMesaGLw.so.2.6
libMesaGLU.so.2 => libMesaGLU.so.2.6
libMesaGL.so.2 => libMesaGL.so.2.6
libXaw3d.so.6 => libXaw3d.so.6.1
libMagick.so.4 => libMagick.so.4.0.4
libXpm.so.4 => libXpm.so.4.10
libXm.so.1 => libXm.so.1.2.0
libMrm.so.1 => libMrm.so.1.2.0
libXtst.so.6 => libXtst.so.6.1
libXt.so.6 => libXt.so.6.0
libXp.so.6 => libXp.so.6.2
libXmu.so.6 => libXmu.so.6.0
libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0
libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.3
libXaw.so.6 => libXaw.so.6.1
libXIE.so.6 => libXIE.so.6.0
libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.1
libPEX5.so.6 => libPEX5.so.6.0
libICE.so.6 => libICE.so.6.3
libforms.so.0.88 => libforms.so.0.88
libSM.so.6 => libSM.so.6.0
/usr/lib/libc5-compat:
libz.so.1 => libz.so.1.1.1
libXtst.so.6 => libXtst.so.6.1
libXt.so.6 => libXt.so.6.0
libXp.so.6 => libXp.so.6.2
libXmu.so.6 => libXmu.so.6.0
libXi.so.6 => libXi.so.6.0
libXext.so.6 => libXext.so.6.3
libXaw.so.6 => libXaw.so.6.1
libXIE.so.6 => libXIE.so.6.0
libX11.so.6 => libX11.so.6.1
libSM.so.6 => libSM.so.6.0
libPEX5.so.6 => libPEX5.so.6.0
libICE.so.6 => libICE.so.6.3
libstdc++.so.27 => libstdc++.so.27.2.1
libXpm.so.4 => libXpm.so.4.10
libg++.so.27 => libg++.so.27.2.1
/lib/libc5-compat:
/usr/lib:
libgck.so.1 => libgck.so.1.0.0
libgimpui.so.1 => libgimpui.so.1.0.0
libgimp.so.1 => libgimp.so.1.0.0
  

RE: NetBeans

1998-07-10 Thread A . KLOS


--
| From: peter.schuller /  mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: java-linux /  mime, , , [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: RE: NetBeans
| Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 2:11PM
|
| > I wonder, did anyone try to run NetBeans on Linux? When I tried to
| > run it I got only very nice welcome screen and after this nothing
| > happened.
|
| If you're on 1.1.5v7 that happens almost all the time. In 1.1.6v2 it happens
| sometimes, but just try again and it should work. That's my experience at
| least.
|
| Unfortunately, NetBeans hangs "now and then" after it's up and running. and
| consumes A LOT of CPU. Around 40% by just sitting there doing nothing , on my
| P133.

40% of how much memory?




another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Stefan Magdalinski

and JIT apparently

http://www.gr.opengroup.org/java/jdk/linux/

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RE: Slackware & jdk116v2

1998-07-10 Thread Casiraghi Luigi

In data 06.58 09/07/98 -0700, John Vliet ha scritto:
>In my description of the problem I mentioned that you can replace the
>ld-linux.so library with an older version (1.9.5 as opposed to 1.9.9)
>and the Java stuff seems to work fine. Unfortunately this causes our
>dhtml server and it's database to break. Interestingly though, you can
>switch to the older library, start you program, switch back to the 1.9.9
>version and all will live in harmony (that is until you exit the java
>program).  This is by no means a solution, but a crude work around if
>you are using Java as a Server that is a critical part of your system,
>it will get you running until a real soln is found.
>-John
>
>
>


John, what flavour of libc are you running (libc5, glibc2.0.6, glibc2.0.7
from RH, etc)??

Luigi

Luigi Casiraghi 
Dufrital SPA
lcasi@linux1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
EDP SEDE
--
When Linux doesn't work as it is supposed to, it's a bug. According to
MicroSoft(tm)  NT have no bugs, it just randomly develop new features.
--




Re: Slackware & jdk116v2

1998-07-10 Thread John Vliet

We are using libc5.  I tried Pauls advice of removing the two files libc.so.5
and libdl.so.1 from ~JAVAHOME/lib/i686/green_threads/  This seemed to fix the
problem keeping the 1.9.9 version of the system ld.so library.
-John

Casiraghi Luigi wrote:

> In data 06.58 09/07/98 -0700, John Vliet ha scritto:
> >In my description of the problem I mentioned that you can replace the
> >ld-linux.so library with an older version (1.9.5 as opposed to 1.9.9)
> >and the Java stuff seems to work fine. Unfortunately this causes our
> >dhtml server and it's database to break. Interestingly though, you can
> >switch to the older library, start you program, switch back to the 1.9.9
> >version and all will live in harmony (that is until you exit the java
> >program).  This is by no means a solution, but a crude work around if
> >you are using Java as a Server that is a critical part of your system,
> >it will get you running until a real soln is found.
> >-John
> >
> >
> >
>
> John, what flavour of libc are you running (libc5, glibc2.0.6, glibc2.0.7
> from RH, etc)??
>
> Luigi
>
> Luigi Casiraghi
> Dufrital SPA
> lcasi@linux1
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EDP SEDE
> --
> When Linux doesn't work as it is supposed to, it's a bug. According to
> MicroSoft(tm)  NT have no bugs, it just randomly develop new features.
> --





Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Tom Sedge

On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Stefan Magdalinski wrote:

> and JIT apparently
> 
> http://www.gr.opengroup.org/java/jdk/linux/

Actually, it's a bit more than a JIT:

'Turbo is a Java (TM) byte code to native code compiler. Like a JIT
compiler (and unlike traditional compilers) it does not require the
application source code, it compiles byte code coming from the net. 
Unlike a JIT compiler, it works as a compiler separate from the Java
runtime and it achieves similar optimizations to traditional compilers,
gaining efficiency over JIT compiled code.'

TurboJ has been tested by them with the 1.1.3 Blackdown JDKs - though I'm
not sure it works with the latest Steve Byrne efforts.  If I can get it
going I'll report back.  It claims to be much faster than a traditional
JIT. 

I don't think they are ready with their JDK yet - couldn't find that on
the site.


Tom.
--
Lunatech Research.  Where the impossible happens every day...



javac coredumps

1998-07-10 Thread Zhichao Hong

Hi, 
Please help a new beginner,
I download jdk1.1.6 and installed on redhat linux 5.0.  When I type javac,
it just coredumps.  I didn't use tar zxvf file.gz to untar the jdk,
instead I use gunzip < file.gz| tar -xvf -
Is this a problem?

My computer is Intel motherboard and Pentium 233 MHZ.  

Please help me on this.
Thanks,
Zhichao



libdl.so.1.9.9 and JDK 1.1.6v2

1998-07-10 Thread Paul Ho

For everyone using libdl.so.1.9.9 and JDK 1.1.6v2.

Try remove the libdl.so.1 and libc.so.5 from your
$JAVA_HOME/lib/i686/green_threads/

Assuming you are using a newer libc5 like libc.so.5.4.44 of course.

In any case, read the README.linux file.


Cheers,
Paul




OJI jdk/mozilla integration

1998-07-10 Thread Michael Rohleder

Has somebody done some working on that?

-- 
Time sharing: The use of many people by the computer.



Re: Trying to use LessTif with jdk1.1.6-v2

1998-07-10 Thread Paul Ho


>Interesting. Do you remember which version of lesstif-current you used? My
>tests
>are based on 1.18 with last change in ChanageLog done on 1998/03/24 23:00:45.

Since mozilla released on April 1, there were lots and lots of improvement
on lesstif. You need something more up to date.
Just get the latest from http://www.lesstif.org/


Cheers,
Paul







Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Charles Forsythe

> I also could not find any pricing information about turboj...

US$2000 

(for HP-UX -- I assume it's the same for Linux)



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Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread relnev



On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Charles Forsythe wrote:

> > I also could not find any pricing information about turboj...
> 
> US$2000 
> 
> (for HP-UX -- I assume it's the same for Linux)
> 
> 

Apparantly you get the sales prices by asking at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED], but anyway,
the Linux version costs $200 for a single host license and limited
support, you can also get a trial LICENSE for two weeks.




Re: javac coredumps

1998-07-10 Thread Albert Lai

Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I download jdk1.1.6 and installed on redhat linux 5.0.  When I type javac,
> it just coredumps.  I didn't use tar zxvf file.gz to untar the jdk,
> instead I use gunzip < file.gz| tar -xvf -
> Is this a problem?

The way you unpacked the package is not a problem.  There are several
crash reports like yours on this list.  Now, I use Red Hat 5.0 as
well, and I don't get a crash.  You may like to apply all Red Hat
errata, especially those concerning the system libraries.  You may
also like to try out the rpm in Red Hat contrib.

-- 
Albert Y.C. Lai   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.vex.net/~trebla/



Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Seth M. Landsman

On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 01:38:30PM -0400, Charles Forsythe wrote:
> > I also could not find any pricing information about turboj...
> 
> US$2000 
> 
> (for HP-UX -- I assume it's the same for Linux)

I actually inquired about this, and this is the response I got :

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Welcome to TurboJ,

If you have not yet installed TurboJ, available from 
the Web site at http://www.opengroup.org/openitsol/turboj/
then you must do so as the first step.

When you have successfully downloaded and installed TurboJ from 
the Web site, you need to obtain a license key to operate.

You may obtain a 2 weeks evaluation key or a 
permanent license key.

In both cases, you must provide us with the output
of the commands "uname -a" and "tj -checkLicense"
It will list output such as

==>HP-UX machine B.10.20 A 9000/720 2012773985 two-user license
==>The name of this machine is: name.company.com
==>and its Internet address is: 138.83.39.223

You must e-mail this information to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

If you want to acquire a product license, we will provide you 
with a permanent key when we have received payment, either by 
credit card and you may call 617-621-8943 (United States number)
or fax a Purchase Order to 617-621-8696.

The price list is the following:

o There is no run time fee for turbo compiled applications.

o Single Host License on HP-UX, unlimited number of users 
on one single computer

No Support  $1800
With limited support$2000
 Linux  $200   

The limited support that we offer for $200 is 
- access to the forum of TurboJ users
- work around and fixes by email and web site.
 
o Single Host License on Linux:  $200 
Linux licensees can access the users forum.

o We offer a bundle of 6 Host Licenses on HP-UX
and limited support on HP-UX for $10,000

o Site License for $20,000 on HP-UX only

Site license provide unlimited number of computers 
running TurboJ on one site and full support.
A site license is the only way to obtain telephone 
support, intermediate patch releases, and automatic 
upgrade of future releases.

o For academic and research the price list is the following:

 Linux single host copy $200
 HP-UX single host$600
 Linux Campus Wide License$5,000
 HP-UX Campus Wide License$10,000
At 06:05 PM 7/9/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Greets,
>   I'm searching through your web page on TurboJ
>(http://www.camb.opengroup.org/openitsol/turboj/index.htm) and, for the
>life of me, cannot find any details about licensing and pricing of this
>product.
>   In short, my research group has a moderately large system using
>Java 1.1.6, and I'd be curious to see what improvement the TurboJ system
>might give the system, stability and speed-wise.  Before I can even start
>this process, I need exact details on pricing, support and licensing.
>
>Thanks,
> Seth M. Landsman
> Dept of COSI
> Brandeis University
>
>--
>"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"
>
>

Randall S. Horn THE OPEN GROUP   Voice: +1 (617) 621-7217
Financial Business Manager   Fax:   +1 (617) 621-0631
Eleven Cambridge Center   RESEARCH   E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cambridge, MA  02142  INSTITUTE  http://www.camb.opengroup.org/RI/
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"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"



RE: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Peter Schuller

> and JIT apparently

(I'm assuming you're refering to TurboJ)

I don't think so. I got the impression it compiles pretty much the entire code,
with optimizations and such. So it's not a JIT, but more of a SCTISINLR - Slow
Compiler That Increases Speed In The Long Run :)

And also, it doesn't seem to be free. If I got it right, you can call them and
get a key useful for evaluation, but I think you've gotta pay for it after some
evaluation period. I don't know about the latter, but the download page clearly
stated that you need the key.

/ Peter Schuller



Re: another Linux JDK?

1998-07-10 Thread Peter Schuller

[TurboJ price]

> US$2000 

For that kind of money I can just by myself a faster computer instead :)

/ Peter Schuller



RE: NetBeans

1998-07-10 Thread Peter Schuller

> 40% of how much memory?

40% CPU. Not RAM. That's according to the normal kernel calculated system load
values. And, as I said, that's on a P133 with no other major CPU hog running.

As for RAM it's not that bad. It's currently up to 24 megs, but that's from
editing code. I imagine that if I do some debugging or running it'll increase,
but I don't wanna do that, as that would invite another hang.

And btw, after being up-and-running for a few hours, idle, it's stopped hogging
CPU.

/ Peter Schuller



The OSF JDK and TurboJ ...

1998-07-10 Thread Seth M. Landsman

... are not the same thing!

There is TurboJ, which appears to be a Java -> Native ahead of
time compiler.

There is also OSF's JDK, which is a 1.1.6 JDK with linuxthreads
support.

These are not the same!  The JDK appears that it will be free for
non-commericial use when it comes out.

-Seth

--
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"



Re: Trying to use LessTif with jdk1.1.6-v2

1998-07-10 Thread Christopher Seawood


On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Gernot Koller wrote:

> Quoting Peter Ziobrzynski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > 
> > You have to rebuild JDK with LessTif. Attempts to run JDK binaries linked with
> > Motif against LessTif result in cores. I tried it myself.
> > I have good results after rebuilding. Here is my shell script to build 1.1.6v2.
> > Takes many hours and at least 32Mb of RAM and 100Mb of swap:
> [...]
> 
> Distributing a JDK built for LessTif is not possible due to licensing 
> problems, is it ?

I believe lesstif is LGPL'd so there should not be any licensing problems.

- cls



Re: Trying to use LessTif with jdk1.1.6-v2

1998-07-10 Thread Christopher Seawood


On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, B. Craig Taverner wrote:

> > You have to rebuild JDK with LessTif. Attempts to run JDK binaries linked with
> > Motif against LessTif result in cores. I tried it myself.
> 
> Is it not possible for blackdown to distribute a lesstif version of the
> jdk?  I for one would be interested to try it out, particularly for the
> dynamic library and possible reduced memory usage.

It's never been formally discussed, but I believe the general consensus
has been that lesstif wasn't stable enough to port the jdk with.  It's bad
enough trying to track down Sun's bugs without getting confused by bugs in
lesstif as well.  

- cls