Re: Quick Cash for Christmas

1998-11-11 Thread Andrew McLaughlin

Can this mailing list be locked down so that only subscribers can post to it? I get 
enough junk email as it is... Besides, pyramid schemes are illegal. I'll forward this 
email to the proper authorities...

Thanks,
Andrew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Are you ready for the Holidays?  How about a head start?
>
> NOW would be a GREAT time to get ready for the HOLIDAYS !!
>
> You probably have received this in the past and done nothing about it, then
> wondered about it.  It really does work. All you need is to invest some
> time and effort into this, but the pay off can be great. I received this
> letter late last year, put little effort onto it and got moderate results.
> The system does work!! I am starting this again for the upcoming holiday
> season. This is a ground floor opportunity!!
>
> This could possible be the best HOLIDAY SEASON ever!!
>
> Never Thought I'd be the One Telling You This:
>
> I Actually Read a Piece of E-Mail & I'm Going to Europe on the Proceeds!
>
> Hello!
>
> My name is Karen Liddell; I'm a 35-year-old mom, wife, and part-time
> accountant.  As a rule, I delete all unsolicited "junk" e-mail and use my
> account primarily for business.  I received what I assumed was this same
> e-mail countless times and deleted it each time.
>
> About two months ago I received it again and, because of the catchy subject
> line,  I finally read it.  Afterwards, I thought, "OK, I give in, I'm going
> to try this.  I can certainly afford to invest $20 and, on the other hand,
> there's nothing wrong with earning a little extra cash."  I promptly mailed
> four $5 bills and, after receiving the reports, paid a friend of mine a small
> fee to send out some e-mail advertisements for me.  After reading the
> reports, I also learned how easy it is to bulk e-mail for free!
>
> I was not prepared for the results.  Everyday for the last six weeks, my P.O.
> box has been overflowing with $5 bills; many days the excess fills up an
> extra mail bin and I've had to upgrade to the corporate-size box!  I am
> stunned by all the money that keeps rolling in!
>
> My husband and I have been saving for several years to make a substantial
> Down payment on a house.  Now, not only are we purchasing a house with 40%
> down, we're going to Venice, Italy to celebrate!
>
> I promise you, if you follow the directions in this e-mail and be prepared to set 
>aside about an hour each day to follow up (and count your money!), you will make at 
>least as much money as we did.  You don't need to
> be a whiz at the computer, but I'll bet you already are.   If you can open an
> envelope, remove the money, and send an e-mail message, then you're on your
> way to the bank.  Take the time to read this so you'll understand how easy it
> is.  If I can do this, so can you!
>
>GO FOR IT NOW!!
>
>Karen Liddell
>
> The following is a copy of the e-mail I read:
>
> $
>
> This is a. LEGAL, MONEY-MAKING PHENOMENON.
> PRINT this letter, read the directions, THEN READ IT AGAIN !!!
>
> You are about to embark on the most profitable and unique program you may
> ever see.  Many times over, it has demonstrated and proven its ability to
> generate large amounts of cash.  This program is showing fantastic appeal
> with a huge and ever-growing on-line population desirous of additional
> income.
>
> This is a legitimate, LEGAL, money-making opportunity.  It does not require
> you to come in contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you
> never have to leave the house, except to get the mail and go to the bank!
>
> This truly is that lucky break you've been waiting for!  Simply follow the
> easy instructions in this letter, and your financial dreams will come true!
> When followed correctly, this electronic, multi-level marketing program works
> perfectly...100% EVERY TIME!
>
> Thousands of people have used this program to:
> -  Raise capital to start their own business
> -  Pay off debts
> -  Buy homes, cars, etc.,
> -  Even retire!
>
> This is your chance, so don't pass it up!
>
> -
> -
> OVERVIEW OF THIS EXTRAORDINARY
> ELECTRONIC MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING PROGRAM
> -
> -
>
> Basically, this is what we do:
>
> We send thousands of people a product for $5.00 that costs next to nothing to
> produce and e-mail. As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business
> by recruiting new partners and selling our products.  Every state in the U.S.
> allows you to recruit new multi- level business online (via your computer).
>
> The products in this program are a series of four business and financial
> reports costing $5.00 each.  Each order you receive via "snail mail" will
> include:
>
>   * $5.00 cash
>   * The name and number of the report they are ordering
>   

Unidentified subject!

1998-11-11 Thread Dejan Milutinovic
Is there anywhere hhtp download page for jdk for Linux Thank you !Dejan Milutinovic


Unidentified subject!

1998-11-11 Thread Dejan Milutinovic
Is there anywhere http download for jdk/Linux thank you Dejan Milutinovic


Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread david . atkinson

While this is not directly a Java question does anybody know of any
library functions etc which will provide low level disk access to
harddisks. i.e sector access etc.

I am looking at writing a Java class for providing direct access to a
dedicated harddisk so that I can avoid some of the overhead of Java and
normal filesystem based disk access.

Dave Atkinson



Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread Michael Sinz

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:40:52 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>While this is not directly a Java question does anybody know of any
>library functions etc which will provide low level disk access to
>harddisks. i.e sector access etc.
>
>I am looking at writing a Java class for providing direct access to a
>dedicated harddisk so that I can avoid some of the overhead of Java and
>normal filesystem based disk access.

Sorry, but when I read this I laughed a bit...

In any reasonable filesystem (ext2 on Linux, HPFS on OS/2, etc) you
get very good performance - and if you are controlling this from Java,
going directly to the hard drive just seems a bit, well, funny.

I do not know of any libraries for Java that provide low-level disk
access.  Using JNI (Native Methods) you could write those routes in
another language (C is the easiest) and then use them from Java.

Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




OROInc

1998-11-11 Thread Joe Carter

>From Cafe au Lait...
http://sunsite.unc.edu/javafaq/

-quote on-
I note with regret the recent passing of OROinc, purveyors of
NetComponents, PerlTools, and
assorted other useful free, closed source Java software libraries. These
may be made available
again at some point in the future. I don't know what happened to OROInc,
but whatever it was I do
hope it doesn't prove that giving a lot of free software back to the
community (which ORO did)
doesn't allow a viable business model. 
-quote off

Bummer.

Joe

-- 
Joe Carter  Software Engineer
Brite Voice Systems Ltd, Gatley, Cheshire. UK.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Java-based install/setup tools

1998-11-11 Thread Bernd Kreimeier


I am wondering about the possibility to create 
"primordial" install/setup front ends using
Java. Some possibilities would be:

  a) native compiler use, no JVM needed
  b) use of a JNI-glued curses library

Has anybody tried such a setup? Are there any
non-X/non-Motif GUI toolkits out there that,
along with the Java executable would even fit
on on a floppy disk? Any native compiler that
works with that toolkit, and JNI? 


 b.



Getting jre to run...

1998-11-11 Thread Jon Allen

I have installed the package jre_1_1_7-v1a-glibc-x86-native_tar.gz on my
RedHat 5.1 system.  In keeping with the new UNIX standard, I made a
/usr/opt directory (with the symbolic link to /opt) and installed the
package.

I put the jre in my path.  When I type 'jre' I get "Could not locate Java
runtime".

I have tried to copy the rt.jar file from the NT version of the jre because
it
appeared to be missing from the tar file.

Although the idea of Kaffe being Java in RedHat 5.1, I prefer Java that is
closer
to the SUN standard.  (Besides I could not get Kaffe to work.)

I am porting Java applications from other Java 1.1.7 systems...  (Because
JNI is
used, this is a true "port")

Can someone help me to get a jre to run under Linux?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




swing 4 linux

1998-11-11 Thread alex andrejin

hi! i would like to know if there is a swing version for linux and where 
i could get it.

thanks,

alex a.

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Announce: JDK117 for alpha

1998-11-11 Thread Uncle George

Yes folks ( I think ) it ready for prime time. There was a binary
version v1, but there was an awt problem that showed up in the ide
"supermojo" ( i have no connection, AND have only a demo model ), and
has been superceeded by the binary files version v2. The classes file is
still version v1.

I Have no idea as to whats going on with my website ( as the webmaster
doesn't respond to my inquiries), but the folks at blackdown.org have
provided space for my linux/alpha port of JavaSoft's 1.1.7 java. The
files can be found at

 http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html

As usual, since this is my port, i guess i will be the only one to
answer bugs & crashes specific to the port. Please publically post your
[EMAIL PROTECTED] maillist - thanks

The sum of the files are:

45046  3767 jdk117_alpha_classes_v1.tgz
03448  1368 jdk117_alpha21064_bin_v2.tgz
41359  1362 jdk117_alpha21164_bin_v2.tgz
34192  1332 jdk117_alpha21164a_bin_v2.tgz
26482  1486 jdk117_alpha_demo.tgz
 jdk117_alpha_README



have fun.
gat

BTW - i will be in NY for a few days, and wont be able to respond to any
inquiries until saturday. The files were uploaded this morning, and may
not be available till thursday, or friday. If you dont need the awt,
then version v1 should be good enough for you. AND as a usefull
reminder, dont erase your old jdk, until you know that this new one
works well enough for you.



Getting Back On The List

1998-11-11 Thread Armen Yampolsky

Hi All,

Don't know if any of you can help me out -- I had been subscribed to the
java-linux-digest list for a while, up until a few weeks ago when I was
mysteriously bumped off. I tried to subscribe in the usual manner, but
it didn't work! I wrote an email to Karl, but he never replied! Does
anyone have any idea why this could be happening, and how I can get back
on the list?

TIA,
-Armen


--
Armen Yampolsky
Axiom Software Labs
New York





Re: java

1998-11-11 Thread Leslie "Buddy" D. Lott

Thanks for the hint.

I upgrade to Redhat 5.1 and my java problems went away.

Unfortunately new non-java related problems took its place.

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> 
> Also, make sure you are running what you think you are running.
> Do a "which java" and make sure you don't have a conflicting package like
> Kaffe or older version of Java.
> 
> At 10:25 AM 11/6/98 -0500, Aleksey Sudakov wrote:
> >: I am running the lates glibc version of jdk on a Pentium66 with linux 5.0. 
> >: 
> >: I looked and appear to have the correct versions of the glibc libraries.
> >: 
> >: But everytime I run any of the jdk program. I get no output. No errors, no 
> >: ..class files, no nothing. I don't even get a core dump.
> >: 
> >: Does anyone now what is going on? 
> >
> >I guess I experienced the same. Even simple things like javac
> HelloWorld.java failed silently while java --help worked. I upgraded to the
> most recent glibc which is if I am not mistaken x-x-29 and problems went away.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Aleksey
> >
> >P.S. Well, glibc was not the only thing that I upgraded from default
> RedHat 5.0 installation, so may be the solution was there.
> 
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Re: Getting jre to run...

1998-11-11 Thread Michael Sinz

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:57:38 -0500, Jon Allen wrote:

>I have installed the package jre_1_1_7-v1a-glibc-x86-native_tar.gz on my
>RedHat 5.1 system.  In keeping with the new UNIX standard, I made a
>/usr/opt directory (with the symbolic link to /opt) and installed the
>package.
>
>I put the jre in my path.  When I type 'jre' I get "Could not locate Java
>runtime".

Do you have any environment variables (such as JAVA_HOME) set?
JAVA_HOME is a common problem.

The other problem could be due to having the wrong libc/glibc version
of the JRE.  Since you are RedHat, you should make sure you have the
glibc version (glibc also happens to work the best)

>I have tried to copy the rt.jar file from the NT version of the jre because
>it appeared to be missing from the tar file.

Which tar file did you use?  I just tried the jre_1.1.7-v1a-glibc-x86.tar.gz
file that we built and "tar -zxf jre..." and then made the jre117_v1a/bin
directory part of the path and typed "jre"

>Although the idea of Kaffe being Java in RedHat 5.1, I prefer Java that is
>closer to the SUN standard.  (Besides I could not get Kaffe to work.)

You may wish to check that the jre command is the one you think it is.

which jre

should return the file .../jre117_v1a/bin/jre


Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz




Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread Paul Reavis

Paul Reavis wrote:
> 
> Urban Widmark wrote:
> >
> >  ... but that would perhaps not be
> > low enough for you so how about:
> >   int fd = open("/dev/hda", O_RDONLY);
> >
> > and then:
> >   lseek()
> >   read()
> 
> Oh ho! That's the best idea so far! Why don't we just skip all this JNI
> nonsense and just open /dev/hda up as a java.io.RandomAccessFile?
> 
> I've just _got_ to try this... though probably on a ramdisk first :-)

Or a floppy... check out these apples:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >8 - - - - - - - - - 
import java.io.*;

public class DirectAccess {

public static void main(String[] argv) {
try {
RandomAccessFile filet = new RandomAccessFile("/dev/fd0",
"rw");   
filet.writeChars("Look ma, no filesystem!\n");
filet.close();
}
   catch (IOException oopsie) {
oopsie.printStackTrace(System.err);
System.exit(1);
}

   }

}
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >8 - - - - - - - - - 

slackguy:/home/paul# java DirectAccess 
slackguy:/home/paul# dd if=/dev/fd0 bs=1 count=50
Look ma, no filesystem!
50+0 records in
50+0 records out

Though platform-specific, this would likely work on most unix platforms
(with different /dev/???, of course) and could be used with fixed-size
files even on less noble platforms - you could make a partition, build a
single file in it that takes up all space, and don't let it shrink and
you shouldn't have fragmentation problems.

And now we're all set to build java-based swap partitions, highly
tweaked data storage and retrieval, etc. It's not to be scoffed at - I
used RandomAccessFile and a simple binary-search mechanism on sorted
data to deliver a GIS-like map item search mechanism below 1 ms. search
time. Totally blew away the databases etc. I was trying at the time, and
is faster than the general search routines AutoCAD and ESRI provide.

-- 

Paul Reavis  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Design Lead
Partner Software, Inc.http://www.partnersoft.com



Re: JDBC 2.0

1998-11-11 Thread Peter T Mount

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Paul Siegel wrote:

> Hello -
> 
> I'm running the blackdown JDK 1.1.6 v6, and trying to write some code using
> JDBC (I've got the postgreSQL JDBC driver running).  I've been using the
> documentation from www.javasoft.com to help me along, and suddenly
> discovered that many of the calls I want to use are implemented only in JDBC
> 2.0.  I found the .java files for JDBC 2.0 on sun's site, but now I don't
> know what to do with them.

I haven't looked at JDBC 2.0 yet, so I don't know what the differences
are.

> Is there any hope for me with JDBC 2.0, or will I have to wait for the JDK
> 1.2 to port to linux?  Thanks!

My main development platform is Linux, so it's a good bet that as soon as
1.2 is available, I'll be able to see what the differences are, and plan a
way of implementing them into the postgreSQL driver.

-- 
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  Main Homepage: http://www.retep.org.uk
PostgreSQL JDBC Faq: http://www.retep.org.uk/postgres
 Java PDF Generator: http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf



Re: OROMatcher & www.oroinc.com

1998-11-11 Thread Joe Carter

Jason Dillon wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to oroinc.com?  They produced a rather
> fullfeatured regular expression engine called OROMatcher, but it seems like
> there website has been down for a really long time... and I was wondering if
> any of you may know what happened to them.
> 
> --jason

I've been wondering the same for a while,
even to the point of email a few of the java mag
editors. No information whatsoever :(
(I use NetComponents)

Joe

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Brite Voice Systems Ltd, Gatley, Cheshire. UK.
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Re: OROMatcher & www.oroinc.com

1998-11-11 Thread Rainer Werlein

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:03:34 +, Joe Carter wrote:

>Jason Dillon wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know what happened to oroinc.com?  They produced a rather
>> fullfeatured regular expression engine called OROMatcher, but it seems like
>> there website has been down for a really long time... and I was wondering if
>> any of you may know what happened to them.
>> 
>> --jason
>
>I've been wondering the same for a while,
>even to the point of email a few of the java mag
>editors. No information whatsoever :(
>(I use NetComponents)
>
>Joe


I was searching too. My results:

A lot of information on regexp stuff is at  http://Meurrens.ML.org/ip-Links/java/regex 
.

The Java Programmer's FAQ  http://www.afu.com/javafaq.html  
lists http://web.theorem.com/java/index.htm as current URL for the ex-ORO material.




Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread david . atkinson

I won't charge for the entertainment value, and I wont give up my
daytime job. (Although I have considered joining a circus as a juggler!)

I was actually implying that I would use JNI and write the interface in
C. Hence the "While this is not directly a Java question...".

Does anybody know of any suitable library functions, code, for lowlevel
HD access ?

Thankyou and Good Night!!  (Insert fanfare here)
Dave Atkinson

> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:40:52 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> 
> >While this is not directly a Java question does anybody know of any
> >library functions etc which will provide low level disk access to
> >harddisks. i.e sector access etc.
> >
> >I am looking at writing a Java class for providing direct access to a
> >dedicated harddisk so that I can avoid some of the overhead of Java
and
> >normal filesystem based disk access.
> 
> Sorry, but when I read this I laughed a bit...
> 
> In any reasonable filesystem (ext2 on Linux, HPFS on OS/2, etc) you
> get very good performance - and if you are controlling this from Java,
> going directly to the hard drive just seems a bit, well, funny.
> 
> I do not know of any libraries for Java that provide low-level disk
> access.  Using JNI (Native Methods) you could write those routes in
> another language (C is the easiest) and then use them from Java.
> 
> Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc.
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com
> My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz
> 
> 



Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread Urban Widmark

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While this is not directly a Java question does anybody know of any
> library functions etc which will provide low level disk access to
> harddisks. i.e sector access etc.
> 
> I am looking at writing a Java class for providing direct access to a
> dedicated harddisk so that I can avoid some of the overhead of Java and
> normal filesystem based disk access.
> 
> Dave Atkinson
> 

I believe the ext2fs tools (e2fsck) has most of its disk access functions
in a library which you could use/look at ... but that would perhaps not be
low enough for you so how about: 
  int fd = open("/dev/hda", O_RDONLY);

and then:
  lseek()
  read()

from the block(s) you want. I don't know of any such library, but it won't
be that hard to write.

But if you want anything fancy like files, or co-existence with other
OS's/other partitions you're going to end up writing a new filesystem of
your own ...

Also, I'm not sure if /dev/hda access goes through the disk cache or if
you would loose that as well.


You could probably get very good performance increase without raw disk
access by rewriting some key routines in C. 

/Urban

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Re: which is the best CORBA/Java implementation?

1998-11-11 Thread Rich Edwards

Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> i wanted to distribute the simulator i am writing with rmi, was then pointed
> out that it would be a lot better if i would use CORBA, i have read a book
> about it, and in fact this seems to be true
> 
> Now RMI is bundled with the JDK, as far as i have seen the official CORBA/Java
> bindings will appear in the 1.2 JDK, but since it is unsure when it will be
> available on linux (and especially since we have some Alphas here that i would
> like to use for the distributed simulation, when available on linux-alpha...) i
> was looking for an implementation i could use immediately and that is able to
> offer me what i need (i didin't really understood how CORBA finds its objects...
> in the Objectcalls i never saw the reference to a specific server) means: I
> have the paradigm of one client and multiple servers (the client holds the
> circuit description, and the servers hopefully simulate it) and need some sort
> of load balancing.
> 
> And on top of that, since my institute is totally unwilling to pay anything
> (they pretext financial shortcomings) is should  be available for free
> 
> Any chance to find something like this? BTW is anyone here using CORBA in
> conjunction with java?
> 

We are using ORBacus (http://www.ooc.com) very successfully with Java
and C++ on the Alpha-Linux platform.  It is an excellent product, and
is free for non-commercial use.  You'll probably want to look at using
the NamingService for object resolution, which is included with
ORBacus.

-- 
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Senior Software Engineer
Codonics, Inc.
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Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread Paul Reavis

Urban Widmark wrote:
> 
>  ... but that would perhaps not be
> low enough for you so how about:
>   int fd = open("/dev/hda", O_RDONLY);
> 
> and then:
>   lseek()
>   read()

Oh ho! That's the best idea so far! Why don't we just skip all this JNI
nonsense and just open /dev/hda up as a java.io.RandomAccessFile? 

I've just _got_ to try this... though probably on a ramdisk first :-)

Gee I love linux...

-- 

Paul Reavis  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Design Lead
Partner Software, Inc.http://www.partnersoft.com



swing 4 linux

1998-11-11 Thread Alex Pozgaj

alex andrejin writes:
 > hi! i would like to know if there is a swing version for linux and where 
 > i could get it.

Swing is written in Java, so you just need to get it from Sun.
No special versions for different OSes


Cheers, alex.
-- 
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving
to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe
trying to produce bigger and better idiots.  So far, the Universe
is winning." -- Rich Cook



Re: swing 4 linux

1998-11-11 Thread Martin Sorgatz


alex andrejin wrote:
hi! i would like to know if there is a swing version
for linux and where
i could get it.
thanks,
alex a.
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Hi!
There is no linux version of swing.
As swing is 100% java it is system independent.
You can download it from the javasoft web site:
 http://java.sun.com/products/jfc/index.html
You should download the zip archive, it is smaller
than the compressed tar archive.
-Martin
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Re: JDK for 21064?

1998-11-11 Thread Ean R . Schuessler

On Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 09:57:19PM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote:
> We're LEGALLY OBLIGATED to be closed.  We signed the non-commercial source
> license.  We're not allowed to share with non-licensees.  So we have a
> "licensees only" mailing list.  

This is the real problem with Java on Linux. By definition this effort 
cannot be "Open Source" because of the Sun licensing situation. This and
the inability to easily certify projects like Kaffe and call them a JavaVM, 
make Java a real problem in the Open Source community. Java started out as
a standard that had the potential to erase the boundries associated with
proprietary software platforms but has devolved into a sort of cross-platform
Visual Basic with a prettier syntax. Admittedly, Sun publishes the specs
(for now and on most components) but thats an odd concession when matching
their specs does not give you something you can call Java.

Shrug,
E

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jdk-1.1.7-1a & tya-1.1-4

1998-11-11 Thread Levente Farkas

hi,
I'm just uploading to incoming.redhat.com and in-rhcn.redhat.com jdk and tya.
Both are made on RH 5.2 (but I hope work on all 5.x with the glibc updates).
This version of tya compile for this jdk.
You can find more info about java rpms on:
http://anna.inf.u-szeged.hu/java/java-rpm.html

-
Name: jdk Distribution: (none)
Version : 1.1.7 Vendor: (none)
Release : 1a.glibc  Build Date: Wed Nov 11 18:58:23 1998
Install date: Wed Nov 11 19:46:06 1998  Build Host: anna.inf.u-szeged.hu
Group   : Development/Languages/JavaSource RPM:
jdk-1.1.7-1a.glibc.src.rpm
Size: 55560136 License: see README.linux
Packager: Levente Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.javasoft.com/products/jdk/
Summary : Java Developer's Kit
Description :
This is the Blackdown Java-Linux Porting Team's port of Sun(tm)'s
Java(tm) Development Kit 1.1.7.

THESE FILES HAVE BEEN MODIFIED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL SUN(tm) VERSIONS AND
THEY CANNOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR ANY PROBLEMS.

Name: tya Distribution: (none)
Version : 1.1   Vendor: (none)
Release : 4 Build Date: Wed Nov 11 19:56:14 1998
Install date: Wed Nov 11 19:57:01 1998  Build Host: anna.inf.u-szeged.hu
Group   : Libraries Source RPM: tya-1.1-4.src.rpm
Size: 222350   License: 1997,98 The TYA Team,
distributed under GPL
Summary : TYA is a 100% unofficial JIT-compiler for Java.
Description :
TYA is a ``100% unofficial'' Just-In-Time-compiler for Java.
When Java is invoked with the option "-Djava.compiler=tya" it will
automatically detect TYA and compile any method bodies in Java byte code to
Pentium instructions just before they are being executed for the first time.
This means that Java programs will run faster than before, especially after
some time of execution, when most methods have already been called before.
---

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Native Library

1998-11-11 Thread Ron Kinney

I hope that I am writing to the correct place.  Any responses to this mail
should be directed to this mail address for I have not subscribed to the
list.

Anyway, I installed jdk117_v1a on my linux system and whenever I type
javac, I get the following error:

Failed to locate native library in path:


My profile file has the following defined:
export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a
export JDK_HOME=$JAVA_HOME
export CLASSPATH=.:$JAVA_HOME/lib/classes.zip
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.
PATH="$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin"

Note that I've changed LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to several other
directories, all of which dont work.  I've been through several pages and
nothing seems to explain the problem or what to do.

I am running:
*Redhat 4.2(with all of its default programs) 
*Intel P200
*java version "chapman:10/12/12-23:12"

-Ron Kinney(Minex) 
 Dawn of Demise(dod.hpi.net 4000)
 http://dod.hpi.net



No library path set

1998-11-11 Thread Shin

Hi,

I can't understand why javac keeps telling me "No library path set",
please help me. It was running fine under Redhat5.0. I'm using Redhat5.1
and the 1.1.6 glibc v2 of the jdk.

Thanks,
Shin



Re: OROMatcher & www.oroinc.com

1998-11-11 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand

On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 08:03:34AM +, Joe Carter wrote:
> Jason Dillon wrote:
> > 
> > Does anyone know what happened to oroinc.com?  They produced a rather
> > fullfeatured regular expression engine called OROMatcher, but it seems like
> > there website has been down for a really long time... and I was wondering if
> > any of you may know what happened to them.
> > 
> > --jason
> 
> I've been wondering the same for a while,
> even to the point of email a few of the java mag
> editors. No information whatsoever :(
> (I use NetComponents)

OroInc was dissolved and Daniel Savarese (the founder) took a full-time
research job in a californian university (I think). He said on USENET he
should resume working on the OroInc stuff by the end of the year.

-- 
Louis-David Mitterrand - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aparima.com

window.close()



Re: Native Library

1998-11-11 Thread Juergen Kreileder

> Ron Kinney writes:

Ron> I hope that I am writing to the correct place.  Any responses to this mail
Ron> should be directed to this mail address for I have not subscribed to the
Ron> list.

Ron> Anyway, I installed jdk117_v1a on my linux system and whenever I type
Ron> javac, I get the following error:

Ron> Failed to locate native library in path:
Ron> 

The message is actually from kaffe's javac.

export PATH=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a:$PATH or installing kaffe should do the trick.


Juergen



Re: JDK for 21064?

1998-11-11 Thread Dru Henke

"Ean R . Schuessler" wrote:
> 

[snip]

> Java started out as a standard that had the potential to erase
> the boundries associated with proprietary software platforms but
> has devolved into a sort of cross-platform Visual Basic with a
> prettier syntax.

For my last 3 commercial projects, Java has indeed delivered on its
potential to easily cut across OS barriers.  What about Java has
"devolved?"  Also, the differences between Java and VB go far beyond syntax,
but I suspect that you threw in the VB reference for dramatic effect (and
maybe a little bit of flame bait ;^) ).

> Admittedly, Sun publishes the specs (for now and on most
> components) but thats an odd concession when matching
> their specs does not give you something you can call Java.

You can't call it "Java" but if I read the trademark guidelines properly,
you can advertise its Java compatibility by the use of a Java "Tagline" (see
section 5 of the guidelines).

I feel that publishing the spec is more than just a concession.  It has
created a much broader set of tool choices across Java-tized platforms than
would otherwise be available.

Dru

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Re: Native Library

1998-11-11 Thread Juergen Kreileder

> Juergen Kreileder writes:

> Ron Kinney writes:
Ron> I hope that I am writing to the correct place.  Any responses to this mail
Ron> should be directed to this mail address for I have not subscribed to the
Ron> list.

Ron> Anyway, I installed jdk117_v1a on my linux system and whenever I type
Ron> javac, I get the following error:

Ron> Failed to locate native library in path:
Ron> 

Juergen> The message is actually from kaffe's javac.

Juergen> export PATH=/usr/local/jdk117_v1a:$PATH or installing kaffe should do the 
trick.

I meant 'deinstalling'...




Re: Announce: JDK117 for alpha

1998-11-11 Thread John Goerzen

(BTW, I tried replying personally to you, but it bounced.)

George,

I just want to say a BIG thanks for your work on this.  This has eliminated
one of the things that I was lacking on Alpha, and was sorely missed.  No
longer!

Just a quick question: Does it use green threads or native threads?  If not
native threads, can we expect such support in the future?

Thanks,
John

On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 10:21:05AM -0500, Uncle George wrote:

> Yes folks ( I think ) it ready for prime time. There was a binary
> version v1, but there was an awt problem that showed up in the ide
> "supermojo" ( i have no connection, AND have only a demo model ), and
> has been superceeded by the binary files version v2. The classes file is
> still version v1.

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RE: JDK licensing (was Re: A Scenerio)

1998-11-11 Thread John Summerfield

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Mark H. Wilkinson wrote:

> > Could someone explain the differences between a reference implementation and
> > a production.
> 
> I suspect that the reference and production JDK releases from Sun are
> pretty closely related because the JDK reference implementation _is_
> actually pretty high quality in most areas. When a new JDK 1.1 reference
> release is posted the Solaris production release is typically pretty
> close behind, presumably because the reference->production patches don't
> change much between minor releases.

I will speculate here:
Buggy code doesn't demonstrate well how things should work: if the spec
says "This class works this way" and the reference implementation doesn't
do it reliably, it's not a lot of good as a reference.

Clearly Sun needs to get the reference implementation out the door AND Sun
doesn't want to be sued if it breaks, So, they say, "Don't bet your
business on this - it could fail."

If the reference implementation IS of good quality, it makes porting
(including the work done by the Solaris folk) easier and so promotes the
use of java.

When java comes from the Solaris people (or from IBM for OS/2 etc and so
forth) it's going to be used by people who ARE betting their business on it
and the quality perception is different.


Cheers
John Summerfield
http://os2.ami.com.au/os2/ for OS/2 support.
Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index.



Re: Low level disk access

1998-11-11 Thread John Summerfield

On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> While this is not directly a Java question does anybody know of any
> library functions etc which will provide low level disk access to
> harddisks. i.e sector access etc.
> 
> I am looking at writing a Java class for providing direct access to a
> dedicated harddisk so that I can avoid some of the overhead of Java and
> normal filesystem based disk access.

On Linux, a disk is a file like any other. Use /dev/hda for the device,
/dev/hda1 for the partition.

Be aware if you give youself write access and stuff it up, the disk content
is effectively destroyed and you'll need to repartition & reformat.

However, if the overhead's a problem, Java's not the language to use: it's
full of overheads.




Cheers
John Summerfield
http://os2.ami.com.au/os2/ for OS/2 support.
Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index.



Re: Why Japanese......????

1998-11-11 Thread Ryuji Yokoyama

Hello!

I think this causes the Japanese characters. Unlike most of European
language(I don't know the correct terminology.), Japanese needs 2 bytes to
display a character, so if a Japan se company develop English version of
software, it can't run correctly in Japan se version of platform.
Displaying Japanese characters requires different techniques.  For
instance, NEC had special ROM to display the characters.  We can't use
ASCII because we have more than 2000 characters.  I hope Java can change
this situation because of unicode. 


At 09:38 AM 11/9/98 +0300, you wrote:
>Could anyone give me starting point:
>
>Why Japanese have faired well in the hardware industry but have made very
>little impact on software.
>
>Thanx
>
>
>



Swing doesn't work on jdk117

1998-11-11 Thread Hui Chi Yen

I've just downloaded jdk117v1a.  Then I tested it with the SwingSet
example comes with swing1.0.3.  When I started it, it generated a segment
fault.  Did I miss something?

Alex Hui
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




plug-in for linux

1998-11-11 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis


Hi,
Has anybody noticed weird behavior from the plug-in in linux.
Could you please check this out :
http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dviz/dip/ex1/app.html
The applet works normally under the plug-in for windoze, but it failes
badly under linux. It simply doesn't respond.
Any ideas for weird behavior of awt applets are welcome.
If anybody is interested  in exploring the problem, please notify
me to dispatch the src...
Dimitris
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
    http://egnatia.ee.auth.gr/~dviz
 


jdk1.1.7 and PrintWriter + TYA1.1v4

1998-11-11 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis


Hi,
It seems that PrintWriter is really slow under 1.1.7 (green) if you
construct it with the autoflush flag on and use tya 1.1v4 as the jit compiler
that is, I construct a printwriter like
 new java.io.PrintWriter( System.out, true )
Howver, the program becomes *really* slow and seem "bumping", esp when
dumping large chunks of data.
This didn't happen under jdk1.1.6v5, where there was a continuous flow
of data in the stream.
Howver if I export JAVA_COMPILER="",
the flow of data is normal!!!
Has anybody observed something similar?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Aristotle University of Thessaloniki
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Re: Anyone tried JNI Interface via dlopen/dlsym methods? I SEGV with it.

1998-11-11 Thread Kenneth & Susan

Howdy!

  I'm glad to hear that the problem does not exist in 1.2, but is there a release
date for this anytime
in the near future?  If not, is there anyway of backporting the fix to the
native-threads version
of 1.1.7, or of getting an early release (whatever you have) of the 1.2 binaries?

Thanks!

kenbo

Juergen Kreileder wrote:

> > Bernd Kreimeier writes:
>
> Bernd> Kenneth & Susan writes:
> >> I'm having trouble loading the java libraries and accessing the
> >> JNI Interfaces using dlopen/dlsym/dlclose.
> >> This works fine on Solaris, but for some reason it fails on Linux.
> >> First I use dlopen to load libjava.so, then
> >> I use dlsym to get the addresses for the JNI Interfaces
> >> (JNI_GetDefaultJavaVMInitArgs,  JNI_CreateJavaVM,
> >> JNI_GetCreatedJavaVMs) and call each as appropriate, but right after I
> >> load the library, I start getting
>
> Bernd> Just like I did. Happens with all JDK's including 1.1.6v5.
> Bernd> It even happens in the JDK 1.1.7v1a native thread port.
> Bernd> I've been told that there are wrappers now around the libdl
> Bernd> functions, but it doesn't seem to do the trick.
>
> The wrapper functions are used for green threads only. It seems that
> they cause some trouble and so they will be removed in 1.1.8 (if
> it should ever get released).
>
> Bernd> I got a small test program ("inload") source I am going to
> Bernd> submit to the group - Jitterbug if the Routers That Be
> Bernd> grace me with web access some time soon, e-mail else.
>
> Bernd's inload program shows that we have indeed a problem with a
> dlopened libjava.so and native threads (don't try it with green
> threads, they are not designed for such things). Depending on the
> java/native stack size you'll get different error messages, but
> basically it's infinite loop.
>
> Now for the good news: The dlopen thing works on 1.2 without problems!
>
> Bernd, a short note on DestroyJavaVM: 1.1 does not support unloading
> the virtual machine (the JNI spec says it does not work in '1.1.2'
> but it applies to all 1.1 JDKs, Sun only forgot to update the spec).
> The 1.2 documentation for DestroyJavaVM is more precise: 1.2 still
> does not support vm unloading and DestroyJavaVM *always* returns an
> error code.
>
> Juergen
>
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