difference between Blackdown's JVM and Sun's?

2002-01-24 Thread Matthew Kennedy


What differences are there between Sun's JVM and Blackdowns? Is the
Blackdown organization some kind of Java licensee?


Thanks

Matt


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Re: difference between Blackdown's JVM and Sun's?

2002-01-24 Thread Vladimir G Ivanovic

"MK" == Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  MK> What differences are there between Sun's JVM and Blackdowns? 

I asked the same question privately of a member of the Blackdown team
and have not yet received a reply.

I'm not trying to be confrontational or start a flame war, but I would
like to understanding the benefits to the *user* of having a Blackdown
port.

--- Vladimir


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Re: difference between Blackdown's JVM and Sun's?

2002-01-24 Thread Calvin Austin

blackdown has additional ppc/sparc/arm ports. JMF, java3d , customized java
web start, debian installer. java comm api.

Also Blackdown give the opportunity for developers to contribute to the java
on linux product. ie if you find a bug or want to change something its going
to be easier to get them into a blackdown release first

regards
calvin 

Vladimir G Ivanovic wrote:
> 
> "MK" == Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   MK> What differences are there between Sun's JVM and Blackdowns?
> 
> I asked the same question privately of a member of the Blackdown team
> and have not yet received a reply.
> 
> I'm not trying to be confrontational or start a flame war, but I would
> like to understanding the benefits to the *user* of having a Blackdown
> port.
> 
> --- Vladimir
> 
> 
> Vladimir G. Ivanovichttp://leonora.org/~vladimir
> 2770 Cowper St. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Palo Alto, CA 94306-2447 +1 650 678 8014
> 
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Re: difference between Blackdown's JVM and Sun's?

2002-01-24 Thread Joi Ellis

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Vladimir G Ivanovic wrote:

> "MK" == Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   MK> What differences are there between Sun's JVM and Blackdowns? 
> 
> I asked the same question privately of a member of the Blackdown team
> and have not yet received a reply.
> 
> I'm not trying to be confrontational or start a flame war, but I would
> like to understanding the benefits to the *user* of having a Blackdown
> port.
 
Blackdown seems to be a bit more agile with respect to window manager
issues.

Blackdown supports many more platforms/ports than Sun does.

I don't know how Blackdown for linux/intel compares with Sun for linux/intel,
but I'd love to see a comparison, myself.  I do a fair bit of JBuilder
support and I'd appreciate more definitive info regarding how various
versions of Blackdown compare with Sun's, and how the kernel/glib versions
affect things.

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Re: difference between Blackdown's JVM and Sun's?

2002-01-24 Thread Uncle George

Although this may be true, one can also say that SUN no longer gives
'others' any  opportunities to port Java to other linux machines. For
example it costed FreeBSD/JAVA some $3000 in ( their own ) legal costs
to obtain a free license to distribute the java binaries. It also took a
long time to obtain such a license.

Calvin Austin wrote:

> Also Blackdown give the opportunity for developers to contribute to the java
> on linux product. ie if you find a bug or want to change something its going
> to be easier to get them into a blackdown release first


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