Debian packages

2002-02-25 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier

I have enojyed for some time the ability of getting Blackdown Java 
releases directly from apt for my Debian servers. This seems to be gone 
now. Are there plans to continue building Java as .deb files. It would 
be great if these packages could be available again!

Thanks.



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Re: Debian packages

2002-02-25 Thread Juergen Kreileder

Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have enojyed for some time the ability of getting Blackdown Java
> releases directly from apt for my Debian servers. This seems to be
> gone now. Are there plans to continue building Java as .deb
> files. It would be great if these packages could be available again!

New Debian packages will be available this week.


Juergen

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Re: Gains from removing line numbers?

2002-02-25 Thread Vladimir G Ivanovic

"AL" == Anders Lindback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  AL> Barnet Wagman skrev:
  >> 
  >> By default, the Java compilers includes line numbers in the bytecode 
  >> they produce.  Is there much benefit to compiling production code 
  >> without line numbers (-o option, I believe), in terms of speed?

  AL> Removing the line number and other debugging info makes the 
  AL> compiled byte code smaller and with a smaller memory footprint
  AL> an application may run faster. But only if you have a performance
  AL> problem where applicaitons are using too much memory.
  AL> (Performance problems usually are one of CPU speed, memory or I/O.)

  AL> In theory using the -O optimizer option should make the
  AL> code faster - but it all depends on the application
  AL> if you see any big change. 

I thought that line numbers were kept in the attribute section of the
classfile, and that the bytecodes were identical. Is this not correct?

Also, there is no documented -O option with Sun's 1.4.0 Java compiler
(Search for "-O" on the javac documentation page,
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/tooldocs/solaris/javac.html) although
it is accepted and the command "javac -help" lists it. Compiling a
409 line Java source file produced no difference in bytecode between the
"optimized" compile and the non-optimized compile.

I believe that the rationale for removing the -O functionality is that
mixed-mode interpreters like HotSpot do a much better job of
(on-the-fly) optimization than static, compile-time optimizers can do.

--- Vladimir


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