Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding cross posting
The lists are remaining separate like I said last week so let's put this thread to bed already. David Ferrin Life is a work in progress - Original Message - From: Van Der Walt Riana rivanderw...@justice.gov.za To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding cross posting But isn't the blind computing list more technical? Some of us don't really want to program or need very technical info. We just do the run of the mill things, wanting to know how to accomplish this with jaws. Regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding cross posting Not as of this time although it can be done. Rick started the BC list and he does fine work on his web site. We agreed 2 years ago that using a service such as Mailman is better than the free deals since it comes with my web package at no extra charge. It is more automated than say Yahoo groups which gives us some more free time away from the keyboard. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding cross posting David, Have you ever considered merging the Blind Computing and JAWS Users lists into a single list? This might make life a little easier for the majority of us who subscribe to both lists. Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:03 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo regarding cross posting Please believe me folks that the server is set to reject any message no matter who has sent it if it contains more than a single recipient. Also this business of sending the same message separately to both lists is simply not polite, give people on the first list a chance to answer before trying another list. I'm trying to keep order is all especially since we are knocking on the door of 500 subscribers order needs to be maintained. David Ferrin Life is what happens after you have already made other plans. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Word 2007 Page setup
Hi all, Using word 2003 and XP I type alt+f then u for page setup so I can set up margins and things. I am using windows XP and Word 2007 on a newer PC and I cannot get to page setup. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] windows media player problems
HI. tried to rip one of my cds, but in the rip context menu, not saying rip the cd name. and got the format set to mp3. and when i select the option to rip when the cd is inserted and for it to eject when finished ripping. well put the cd in, but does not rip, and just ejects. thinking of downloading i tunes. but have gone over my montly limit on iprimus, and there contact system, is not very accessible, and do not remember my user name and login. and cannot really phone them, as the account is in my dads name. wish there was an easier way to check my montly usage. now, just started to download and normally i would have a download speed of about 52 kps per sec. but now only downloading at 8.1 kps per sec and would take over 2 hours. to download. normally when i was on broadband would only take about 25 to 30 mins. so how to fix this annoying problem. cheers Marvin. E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 Page setup
Hello Ann, You can bring up the page setup dialog box that you were accustomed to using in Word 2003 by pressing Alt then P then S then P. If you press Alt followed by the letter P you will move to the page layout tab. use tab key to the lower part of the ribbon and you will find several other choices dealing with page layout. use Alt followed by P followed by M to go directly to the margins page of the page setup dialog. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: Ann Marie Medlar amedl...@bellsouth.net To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:32 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word 2007 Page setup Hi all, Using word 2003 and XP I type alt+f then u for page setup so I can set up margins and things. I am using windows XP and Word 2007 on a newer PC and I cannot get to page setup. Any suggestions? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows media player problems
If your ripping options are set to verify album and track names on the internet and your speed is too slow, that may perhaps be the reason for the cd to be ejected, although I've successfully ripped cd's at less than 8 kbps via a dialup modem. The fact that it's set to rip in mp3 shouldn't make the difference. Also, if the same cd has been ripped before on the same computer with the same program, it will also eject immediately without saying anything. You could change that setting not to look for titles on the internet, I think in the options menu, but I don't presently have access to win media player to check. Regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 2:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows media player problems HI. tried to rip one of my cds, but in the rip context menu, not saying rip the cd name. and got the format set to mp3. and when i select the option to rip when the cd is inserted and for it to eject when finished ripping. well put the cd in, but does not rip, and just ejects. thinking of downloading i tunes. but have gone over my montly limit on iprimus, and there contact system, is not very accessible, and do not remember my user name and login. and cannot really phone them, as the account is in my dads name. wish there was an easier way to check my montly usage. now, just started to download and normally i would have a download speed of about 52 kps per sec. but now only downloading at 8.1 kps per sec and would take over 2 hours. to download. normally when i was on broadband would only take about 25 to 30 mins. so how to fix this annoying problem. cheers Marvin. E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] RE Word 2007 page setup
Press Alt P, and then M . This will bring you to the margins window. There are some standard margin set ups there, including the most recent custom one you have used. At the bottom of the list is the option for custom settings. Enter on that and you will be able to enter new top bottom, left and right margin settings. If you have questions about other options, please ask. Blessings, Tom Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMLuj7uUvPfra7dw5YfLOdgARsOmuiHOfrHo2Q7BKeuvDQCC3bwac/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
I never did really get an answer to my problem. Apparently, there are a few keyboards that type different styles than others. I was only having problems with a Daily Devotion that I received. That was the only thing that I had a problem with. So, the only way I knew to solve the problem was to stop subscribing to it. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Victor Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I have also noticed that the apostrophe now is spoken as a graphic string of characters, as opposed to it's proper name of apostrophe. I also believe that Donny also had this problem way back when. Not sure if he fixed the problem or not, but if he did, perhaps he'd like to share the fix with the rest of us. Or, if anyone else has a fix for this, I would appreciate the help, as I'm sure others would as well. I'm using the latest build of Jaws 10, with Windows XP home, and Internet explorer 8, and it has been doing this since explorer 7, and, most notably in send space files I've downloaded, where the file name has a particular apostrophe in the name. Now, as I think about it, it seems that I can arrow through the characters that have replaced the apostrophe, and delete them one at a time, then add in the apostrophe, and it then is spoken correctly. Could this have anything to do with it? Just thinking aloud here, thanks folks. Thanks all. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal
There are some programmes like Microsoft Word which have peculiar settings, things like Smart Quotes and such which substitute the quote or the apostrophe character, that is, the ASCII equivalent number with something which produces a graphic looking like an apostrophe or a quote or sometimes some other characters in other contexts, possibly a fancy question mark. Sighted people consider these unique, interesting or different because visually they are not difficult to interpret. Jaws however doesn't necessarily know what that particular numeric value is supposed to represent. Further, the sighted user can, if desired recognize it to be a question mark in that particular context. It may have a different significance in another context but if Jaws assumed it to be a question mark the blind person could not know it was anything other than the usual question mark character. Usually this would not probably matter, these things though are a matter of discretion. I for won dislike when software and/or hardware designers decide I am too delicate to hear swear words and build in alternative pronunciations or when they assume that all two letter combinations represent the short forms of American state names. It is like when you use JawsKey + TopRow 4. There is a list of graphic characters there you can choose to insert into your document. It is far from a complete list of available graphics and probably depends on application as to what many of them mean. The thing to remember is that computers use numbers. What those numbers mean or how they will be rendered on the screen depends on the context. There is a lot of general agreement about what a lot of those numbers will mean across a number of contexts. Most word processors agree much of the time on what they mean, usually e-mail is limited to the ASCII set when plane text is selected however this is why files created in one application are not usually accessible to another application. Even different versions of a particular application don't always agree on what the numbers mean. You need to do things to a Word7 file and probably lose some features if you wish to view it in Word2003 for example. Wasn't it just here on this list recently we discussed reading .PDF files and the various contexts Adobe uses? One could probably create a Jaws dictionary rule by highlighting one of those odd characters and copying it into the dictionary with a created pronunciation rule. I am not sure how that would play in the case of the apostrophe since many of those pronunciations probably include the entire word. Dale Leavens. - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett deparr...@prtcnet.org To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I never did really get an answer to my problem. Apparently, there are a few keyboards that type different styles than others. I was only having problems with a Daily Devotion that I received. That was the only thing that I had a problem with. So, the only way I knew to solve the problem was to stop subscribing to it. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Victor Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the questionmark does not speak like normal I have also noticed that the apostrophe now is spoken as a graphic string of characters, as opposed to it's proper name of apostrophe. I also believe that Donny also had this problem way back when. Not sure if he fixed the problem or not, but if he did, perhaps he'd like to share the fix with the rest of us. Or, if anyone else has a fix for this, I would appreciate the help, as I'm sure others would as well. I'm using the latest build of Jaws 10, with Windows XP home, and Internet explorer 8, and it has been doing this since explorer 7, and, most notably in send space files I've downloaded, where the file name has a particular apostrophe in the name. Now, as I think about it, it seems that I can arrow through the characters that have replaced the apostrophe, and delete them one at a time, then add in the apostrophe, and it then is spoken correctly. Could this have anything to do with it? Just thinking aloud here, thanks folks. Thanks all. Victor Co-moderator Blind Movie Buffs List Guidedogs List For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently
[JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question
Hi All, Has anyone heard about or know of a program that would work like Jaws keyboard help but, that would speak what tasks Windows keystrokes perform? Thanks much, take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles
Hello. Jaws suddenly stopped tabbing to the tree view and will now stay in the list view. I have to press control 1 and then I can't hear the one I'm arrowing to. Jaws won't speak that at all. I have to read the current line to get the folder I'm on. I have jaws set to highlighted text and I'm using jaws 10 and wndows xpsp2 and outlook 2003. What's going on! Sarah Alawami msn: chell...@hotmail.com skype: marrie1 website: http://www.marrie.org http://www.marrie.org/ twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question
Mike, In some programs, and in Control panel (Windows XP and below: Not sure about Vista since I don't have it), Pressing shift+F1 will yield information about what will happen. this is context-sensitive help. It also works thus in outlook Express Options. In versions of Microsoft Word up to 2002, You can press shift+f1 and then press a command keystroke to find out what effects this command will produce. (Shift+F1 doesn't work in every Windows-associated program.) - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question Hi All, Has anyone heard about or know of a program that would work like Jaws keyboard help but, that would speak what tasks Windows keystrokes perform? Thanks much, take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles
Sometimes this happens to me and all I have to do is re-start my computer. Then, all is well. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles Hello. Jaws suddenly stopped tabbing to the tree view and will now stay in the list view. I have to press control 1 and then I can't hear the one I'm arrowing to. Jaws won't speak that at all. I have to read the current line to get the folder I'm on. I have jaws set to highlighted text and I'm using jaws 10 and wndows xpsp2 and outlook 2003. What's going on! Sarah Alawami msn: chell...@hotmail.com skype: marrie1 website: http://www.marrie.org http://www.marrie.org/ twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question
Hi Flor, Thank you so much for this handy informational keystroke. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question Mike, In some programs, and in Control panel (Windows XP and below: Not sure about Vista since I don't have it), Pressing shift+F1 will yield information about what will happen. this is context-sensitive help. It also works thus in outlook Express Options. In versions of Microsoft Word up to 2002, You can press shift+f1 and then press a command keystroke to find out what effects this command will produce. (Shift+F1 doesn't work in every Windows-associated program.) - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Keyboard help question Hi All, Has anyone heard about or know of a program that would work like Jaws keyboard help but, that would speak what tasks Windows keystrokes perform? Thanks much, take care. Mike For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles
I did that and it didn't help. I finily did a system restore. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Parrett Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles Sometimes this happens to me and all I have to do is re-start my computer. Then, all is well. Please join us on Skype Monday thru Friday at 8:00 EST for our Morning Skype Prayer Time. Contact Me At: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, Kentucky 40402 Home Phone: 606-364-3321 Church Phone: 606-364-PRAY Skype Name: Donnie1261 Email: deparr...@prtcnet.org -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 6:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook troubles Hello. Jaws suddenly stopped tabbing to the tree view and will now stay in the list view. I have to press control 1 and then I can't hear the one I'm arrowing to. Jaws won't speak that at all. I have to read the current line to get the folder I'm on. I have jaws set to highlighted text and I'm using jaws 10 and wndows xpsp2 and outlook 2003. What's going on! Sarah Alawami msn: chell...@hotmail.com skype: marrie1 website: http://www.marrie.org http://www.marrie.org/ twitter: http://twitter.com/marrie1 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
