[JAWS-Users] Label Graphics in windows live mail
Hi All, An old post helped me label graphics in the headings in the message list view in Windows Live Mail 2011 using JAWS 12 on my 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine and I wanted to say thanks again to everyone who has helped to make the transition easier and to re-post the instructions in case they help someone else. Margaret - Original Message - From: "David Bailes" To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail question Hi, If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics which indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default. Hopefully, this will be fixed soon in an update to jaws 12. However, you can label these manually yourself, as follows: 1. Open windows live mail. 2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics. To temporarily change this setting so that it reads them, so that you can find them and label them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog; press G until you get to the item Graphics - labeled; press spacebar to cycle to the next option for this setting which is graphics - all, and then press enter to press the default close button. 3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each unlabeled graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the senders name. The graphic to label as unread is graphic 656. Other unlabeled graphics include graphic 160 which indicates attachment, and if you use the conversation view, then graphics 563 and 105 indicate collapsed and expanded respectively. Note that graphic 294 indictates a read message, and you'll probably want to leave this graphic unlabeled. 4. To label a graphic, for example graphic 656 as unread: move to a message in the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic 656 when reading it; press insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this places the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow till you get to graphic 656; press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog; the initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic 656 selected; type unread, and the press enter to press the default ok button. 5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to label. 6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics. David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] jaws 13 basic training
hello all, i am writing to let you all know that the jaws 13 basic training is now out. if you are running the publick beta of jaws 13, you can use the check for updates option in the help menu to download them. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re: Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings
Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret - Original Message - From: "john R. Vaughn" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List Names in WLM2011Headings Margaret, let me try and help. In jaws 12 and 13 you will need to use the new configuration facility. 1. While in your "in box", hold down the insert key and press the letter "v" as in victor. 2. you are in the quick settings tree view. down arrow through the various controls and when you get to a control you think you need to change, tab once to read the jaws help. Usually, if you want to change an item, you enter on it to check or uncheck an item. see if this helps. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaw
[JAWS-Users] JAWS Basic Training
Good Morning, When I went to grab the basic training files from the Update feature, they all seemed to be there except 4. It went from 3 to 5. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
Good Morning, I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit Insert-Space, O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? Many thanks. Nancy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re: Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings
Hello; Insert+f6, And press s=settings center, Or, you can press insert+#6 on numbers row. Now, press ctrl+shift+d=default. Now arrow down to, Speech verbosity closed, Right arrow to open, You should see 2 items, Down arrow you will hear, verbosity level beginner highest. Now, press spacebar, to get to advanced, Now, tab to apply, or, you can tab to okay. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re: Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which was one of the things I wanted to do. I'm going to take a break. Any more instructions for making the change permanent would be great. Margaret - Original Message - From: "john R. Vaughn" To: Sent: Monday, O
Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
Are you saying that after pressing Insert + Space, followed by o, JAWS does not speak "OCR"? Then when you hit w, s, or c, it does not announce "Started", then after a second or two, announce "Finished"? *Don Marang* On 10/18/2011 1:12 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: Good Morning, I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit Insert-Space, O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? Many thanks. Nancy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
It does say OCR after I press O ... but after I press S it does not say started, and I've never heard it says Finished. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR Are you saying that after pressing Insert + Space, followed by o, JAWS does not speak "OCR"? Then when you hit w, s, or c, it does not announce "Started", then after a second or two, announce "Finished"? *Don Marang* On 10/18/2011 1:12 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: > Good Morning, > > > > I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit Insert-Space, > O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. > Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. > > > > I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public > betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it > installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? > > > > Many thanks. > > > > Nancy > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
It sounds like the OmniPage OCR portion did not get installed properly. There is a separate download and installer for this. Download it, run the installer , and hope it fixes your problem. *Don Marang* On 10/18/2011 1:21 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: It does say OCR after I press O ... but after I press S it does not say started, and I've never heard it says Finished. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR Are you saying that after pressing Insert + Space, followed by o, JAWS does not speak "OCR"? Then when you hit w, s, or c, it does not announce "Started", then after a second or two, announce "Finished"? *Don Marang* On 10/18/2011 1:12 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: Good Morning, I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit Insert-Space, O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? Many thanks. Nancy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] re-Convenient OCR
Hi Nancy: Press insert+spacebar Press O: Press W: Jaws should say, OCR started: Then it will start speaking in the Jaws curser voice. Hope this helps... Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
Hi Convenient OCR only seems to speak started and finished if the User Verbosity mode is set to beginner or intermediate. When verbosity is set to advanced, JAWS says OCR when you press JAWSKey+space and then The next thing it says is JAWS if it found any text. If it didn't find readable text, Jaws says nothing in advanced verbosity. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 01:30 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR It sounds like the OmniPage OCR portion did not get installed properly. There is a separate download and installer for this. Download it, run the installer , and hope it fixes your problem. *Don Marang* On 10/18/2011 1:21 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: > It does say OCR after I press O ... but after I press S it does not say > started, and I've never heard it says Finished. > > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Don Marang > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:19 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR > > Are you saying that after pressing Insert + Space, followed by o, JAWS > does not speak "OCR"? Then when you hit w, s, or c, it does not > announce "Started", then after a second or two, announce "Finished"? > > *Don Marang* > > On 10/18/2011 1:12 PM, Nancy Feldman wrote: >> Good Morning, >> >> >> >> I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit > Insert-Space, >> O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. >> Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. >> >> >> >> I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public >> betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it >> installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. >> >> >> >> Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? >> >> >> >> Many thanks. >> >> >> >> Nancy >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings
Hi margaret, When I right arrow to open speech verboscity & arrow down 1 time I get, verboscity level, beginner highest. This is where you press the spacebar until you hear advanced then, tab to apply, tab to okay & press enter / spacebar. But, if you arrow down 2 times you get, configure verboscity levels, & if you right arrow to open this, you will hear beginner.! I did notice that applying the changes was necessary before okaying them to make the changes hold. Let us know if you have any more problems or if you were able to make your changes. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Verbosity Level to Advanced in JAWS 12 Re:Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Mike, All went well with your instructions to change verbosity to Advanced in JAWS 12 until step 4: "4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verbosity level beginner highest." JAWS Just says beginner. Pressing space once results in Application Start Message checked one of 21 or some number like that instead of the expected something about intermediate with a second press saying advanced. I did see a button to restore defaults, but didn't choose it. When I didn't get the expected results, I decided to see if JAWS 12 was still saying dot dot dot after basic etc. and it just said basic. Maybe the JAWS fairies went to work overnight. I know I rebooted last night before I sent my post. With 12, how can I check the verbosity level? I think I saw something in the training section on working with the new setting center and it might be worth a listen. I'll take a look for it and the other 12 training materials after lunch and some caffeine. Margaret - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says ListNamesinWLM2011Headings Hi Margaret, To set Jaws to the Advanced option do the following; 1. Press Insert + 6 on the numbrer row above the main keyboard, to open the Settings Center then, press control, shift, + D, to open the default settings center for all applications. 2. Arrow down to Speech Verboscity & press right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to configure verboscity levels & press right arrow to open. 4. Arrow down 1 time & you might hear, verboscity level beginner highest. Press the spacebar 2 times or, until you hear Jaws read, advanced, lowest. 5. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, & press enter / spacebar to save the changes & close the Settings Center. To set your punctuation for some, do the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, for the context menu 2.A. Press the letter H, for Help, then press the letterZ, for the start-up wizard, tab to the punctuation option, & you will be in a combobox so arrow up to some, . Now, tab through the start-up wizard making any other changes if necessary,press the spacebar each time you get to a next button until you get to the finish button, & pressing the spacebar on finish to save any changes & close the start-up wizard. B. If you don't run Jaws from the system tray, Alt + tab, until you land on the Jaws window. Press the Alt key & Jaws should read options. Now, right arrow to help, uparrow to start-up wizard, & press enter. Now follow the rest of steps in step 2.A. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Margaret Thomas To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing How JAWS 12 Says List NamesinWLM2011Headings Hi All, I tried making changes in voices again and may have finally gotten it. JAWS seems to also no longer be saying colon after fwd and parentheses before and after another list that uses parentheses instead of brackets in the subject field which I also wanted to accomplish. I apparently wasn't successful in getting JAWS 12 changed to Advanced since it is saying dot dot dot after Basics etc., but any progress is good. Thanks to everyone who is helping me tame the new beast. Margaret Earlier, I wrote: John and All, When I started trying to get JAWS 12 not to say left bracket etc. Insert -V from the message list view had most for punctuation. Changing it to none or some gets it to work temporarily, but I haven't been able to find the proper item in the Settings Center yet to make it permanent. Changing the setting in voice in options with Insert-J that I understood to be another list member's suggestion didn't seemed to have worked, but I might have messed up. I'm pretty sure while I was looking in the Settings Center that I was able to change verbosity to Advanced, which
Re: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR
You're forgetting to tell it what to scan. For instance, after you hit o and it comes up, hit w to tell it you want to scan the window. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Feldman Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Convenient OCR Good Morning, I've never been able to make convenient OCR work. When I hit Insert-Space, O, S, or any other option, JAWS pauses a few seconds and then says JAWS. Nothing else happens. On this machine I'm running public beta 3. I've always had an Internet connection when I installed JAWS 13 public betas. I thought it would automatically install the OCR process when it installed JAWS 13, as long as there was an Internet connection. Any thoughts or suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? Many thanks. Nancy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
