Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and TV guides

2012-04-27 Thread Don Marang
I have DirecTV as well.  I use TitanTV.com as a TV guide.  It is not
specific to DirecTV.  It is geared towards those who use tuner cards and
have PVR software to record shows.  It is very customizable and uses a
true HTML table to contain the grid.  You will need to start an account
and set up your provider and zip code.  It also allows you to select
your favorite channels and preferences.  I like to have it show a 6 hour
grid.  The new JAWS table navigation feature can be used to move through
the grid using the arrow keys.  If you set JAWS to read both column and
row headers, it will announce the channel / time as you move through the
grid. 

I have a DirecTV R22 DVR and have written some JAWS Scripts that make
recording to the DVR easy from this grid.  Look at
http://www.DonaldMarang.org/DirecTV.html and contact me if interested. 

*Don Marang*
Vinux Package Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org



On 4/27/2012 3:11 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am running JAWS13 latest build.  Is there a good TV guide for Direct
> TV that works well with JAWS?
> Thanks in advance,
> Greg W.
>
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[JAWS-Users] silencing Thunderbird from saying misspelled

2012-04-27 Thread leonard morris
I want to silence Thunderbird from saying misspelled during proof 
reading an email message. Can this be done in jaws 13?


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[JAWS-Users] MS Excel spreadsheet gets jumble

2012-04-27 Thread leonard morris
Well I am happy to report my .csv address book file in MS Excel 2007 is 
now fixed. I exported the address book again and everything got placed 
back where things belong.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update

2012-04-27 Thread Paul Magill
Hi David,

Thank you.

I for one, would appreciate a description of how "MyExtensions" should be 
implemented, rather than my guesswork.(smile)

Regards,
Paul from Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

With Eric's help I got it worked out, I might do an audio tutorial on it as 
there are several steps involved but this should avoid any future conflicts 
like many of us experienced earlier this week.

It seems to me to have the virtue of being portable meaning if you have more 
than 1 system running the same settings then copying a few files between 
systems should keep them in sink.
David Ferrin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest update

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
I just posted a tutorial a little over five minutes long that I hope will 
answer all of your questions out there. Look for the words My extensions.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest update


I'm working on an audio tutorial that should with luck cover all of the
basis. For now delete the default JSS file if you made any additions to it.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: "Graham Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Latest update



the default file that has to be deleted is it jsb or jbs please.

Regards

Graham


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Latest update

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
I'm working on an audio tutorial that should with luck cover all of the 
basis. For now delete the default JSS file if you made any additions to it.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: "Graham Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Latest update



the default file that has to be deleted is it jsb or jbs please.

Regards

Graham


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[JAWS-Users] Latest update

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Smith


the default file that has to be deleted is it jsb or jbs please.

Regards 


Graham


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and TV guides

2012-04-27 Thread Maria Campbell

You could try
www.zap2it.com
then choose your zip code
then choose your provider
then save that scheduling page you'll bring up.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net

Because you have made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, your 
habitation;
There shall no evil befall you, neither shall any plague come nigh your 
dwelling.
For he shall give his angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways.
Ps.91:9-11



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Hello all,
I am running JAWS13 latest build. Is there a good TV guide for Direct 
TV that works well with JAWS?

Thanks in advance,
Greg W.

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[JAWS-Users] MS excel file gets jumbled

2012-04-27 Thread leonard morris
I have an MS Excel 2007 file called address.csv. I added some data to 
one of the names that didn't have an email address at the time. When I 
saved the file and reopened it later it appears all data got moved.


for example, I had data in a1 b1 c1 etc etc. Now, instead of data being 
placed in the proper area everything got moved to a1. So a1 looks like 
this "First NameLast NameMiddle NameNameNickname
Email AddressHome StreetHome CityHome Postal CodeHome 
StateHome Country/RegionHome PhoneBusiness Street
Business CityBusiness Postal CodeBusiness StateBusiness 
Country/RegionBusiness PhoneCompanyJob Title"


You can imagine what the rest of this spreadsheet looks like when 
arrowing down starting with a1, a2, a3 etc etc. What a mess now. I don't 
have a clue how this happened and/or how to fix it.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

2012-04-27 Thread Steve
Are you talking about an object?  You can list the objects with the command 
control-shift-o.  You can convert some drawn objects to text with I think 
alt-shift-c.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010


No, a document that is included as some kind of link, but not really a 
link,

as the document does not really exist outside the document in which it's
embedded.
Cheers
Alex

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: 27 April 2012 14:53
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Hi alix.
Are you talking about a document that was imported as an image?

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Can anyone please tell me how to read documents embedded in a word 2010
document?

Cheers

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

2012-04-27 Thread Norman King
Have you tried using the oCr function of jaws?

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

No, a document that is included as some kind of link, but not really a link,
as the document does not really exist outside the document in which it's
embedded.
Cheers
Alex

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: 27 April 2012 14:53
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Hi alix.
Are you talking about a document that was imported as an image?

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Can anyone please tell me how to read documents embedded in a word 2010
document?

Cheers

Alex

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

2012-04-27 Thread Alex Stone
No, a document that is included as some kind of link, but not really a link,
as the document does not really exist outside the document in which it's
embedded.
Cheers
Alex

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Norman King
Sent: 27 April 2012 14:53
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Hi alix.
Are you talking about a document that was imported as an image?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Can anyone please tell me how to read documents embedded in a word 2010
document?

Cheers

Alex

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Re: [JAWS-Users] having two braille displays working with JAWS simultaneously?

2012-04-27 Thread northstar1950
don't think that can work. you can have them both available but can 
only use one at a time.



Legend has it that on Friday 4/27/2012 02:15 PM, Flor Lynch said:


Hi,

It is possible to add other braille displays to JAWS, in addition to 
the one you normally use, either via the Add braille Display item in 
the Braille... JAWS Options menu or via the Synthesizer & braille 
manager in the JAWS utility manager. A friend would like to be able 
to use his pac mate and his Alva Satellite together, as two displays 
working with JAWS at the same time. Is this possible - in practice?


I can see how, in theory, it could be; but JAWS wishes to select one 
or the other display in practice, if both are set to be default. 
(Consider how one might want the other display, rather as in the 
manner of an alternate say-all speech synthesizer, for certain 
situations or applications.)


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[JAWS-Users] having two braille displays working with JAWS simultaneously?

2012-04-27 Thread Flor Lynch

Hi,

It is possible to add other braille displays to JAWS, in addition to the 
one you normally use, either via the Add braille Display item in the 
Braille... JAWS Options menu or via the Synthesizer & braille manager in 
the JAWS utility manager. A friend would like to be able to use his pac 
mate and his Alva Satellite together, as two displays working with JAWS 
at the same time. Is this possible - in practice?


I can see how, in theory, it could be; but JAWS wishes to select one or 
the other display in practice, if both are set to be default. (Consider 
how one might want the other display, rather as in the manner of an 
alternate say-all speech synthesizer, for certain situations or 
applications.) 



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[JAWS-Users] JAWS and TV guides

2012-04-27 Thread Greg Wocher

Hello all,
I am running JAWS13 latest build.  Is there a good TV guide for Direct 
TV that works well with JAWS?

Thanks in advance,
Greg W.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

2012-04-27 Thread Trish
thanks, I'll give it some consideration. someone wise, suggested I make a 
restore point before installing the update.
- Original Message - 
From: "Norman King" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?


Hi.
Yes I've noticed the same if I start viewing web pages to soon.
If you want to update I would say go ahead.
I did it an I had no script issues so I would try it.


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

Well, my bank sometimes jaws like doesn't keep up with the ever changing
screens, and I have to keep the flash thingy turned on so I get all the
links to show up.
Facebook really doesn't agree with jaws some of the time. I could be editing
and or maybe doing a combo box and jaws just like is skipping out on me,
this is frustrating.
So I was thinking maybe this update addressed some of those issues.
Maybe jaws is too fast for some of these web sites, not meaning it talks
fast, but just the program runs faster on win 7 than like say some of these
web pages don't load as fast, so jaws skips around until the page is loaded
then it works as it should, does that make sense?

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?


If you are not having a problem then let sleeping dogs lay as the saying
goes.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:39 PM
To: users jaws list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

I've been reading all the posts and a little confused on the script issue
weather I am ok or not.

So, do I first look in the default area to see if that jb or js or whatever
it is is there and remove it?
I want to give this a try since this improvement suppose to help with
certain web pages using something that causes jaws to stop speaking, I have
been dealing with this now since using jaws 13 on my laptop. So, if they
have worked out that bug, then it's worth it to me to install this update,
but don't want to have to deal with some other issue in the process.
I saved some of the post which I usually do anyways, always find good help
here and a lot of knowledgeable people seem to have it figured out, smiles.

Trish


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[JAWS-Users] the latest jaws update

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
With Eric's help I got it worked out, I might do an audio tutorial on it as 
there are several steps involved but this should avoid any future conflicts 
like many of us experienced earlier this week. 

It seems to me to have the virtue of being portable meaning if you have more 
than 1 system running the same settings then copying a few files between 
systems should keep them in sink.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] the my extensions script file

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
So far I haven't figured out how to assign key strokes in the default key map 
file to point to scripts in the my extensions script source, if anybody who is 
functioning on more cylinders than I happen to be currently managing has done 
so please enlighten this humble personage.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
I did not know about it either myself and I have been a minor script writer 
for quite a while as well. I haven't figured it all out as of yet but I have 
this failing where I don't like to lose.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Magill" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files


Hi David,

Thank you, thank you for this info...

I have been scripting for a long time, but did not know this facility had
been introduced.

Warm regards,
Paul from Australia

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 


I found this file under explore shared settings, the path is as follows:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery
To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com)
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:02 AM
Subject: Here is the information I promised about adding to default script
files


Hi David,



In the event you are just adding to your defaults rather than modifying our
scripts, this could be helpful avoiding problems in the future.



Regards,

Eric



Safely Adding Default Scripts


Starting with JAWS 12, the default script file makes use of
MyExtensions.jsb. MyExtensions.jss includes standard headers, but contains
only a couple of stub functions for source code. The purpose of the
MyExtensions scripts is to include in the JAWS distribution a script source
file that will never contain any Freedom Scientific source code, thus
allowing the end user to safely add new custom scripts without the need to
make any changes due to a JAWS update. For this reason, new scripts and
functions added to MyExtensions and placed in the user settings folder is a
safe way to add custom scripts to JAWS.



You should be aware, however, that MyExtensions should not be used to
overwrite existing scripts or functions. Default scripts and functions do
not call down to MyExtensions, so any scripts or functions in MyExtensions
that have the same name as those in default or application scripts will
never run. Scripts or functions with unique names will run, which is why you
can use MyExtensions for added scripts and functions.



Because JAWS key map (JKM) files are layered, you can also assign key
mappings to your added MyExtensions scripts in default.jkm in your user
settings. You can use Keyboard Manager to locate your scripts in
MyExtensions by looking under Default scripts and assign keys to your custom
scripts.



By adding your custom scripts to MyExtensions, and assigning keys in
default, you can safely extend JAWS scripts to include your own custom
scripts. If you have developed a library of custom functions in a JSB file,
you can add it to MyExtensions through the Use statement and it will now be
available to you.



Just remember to use unique names for scripts or functions added through
MyExtensions, and save your modified MyExtensions source and compiled files
to your user settings, and you should be able to enjoy your own custom
scripts added to JAWS without having to make changes due to JAWS updates.
You can also copy your MyExtensions files to new versions of JAWS. Depending
on the extent of your script coding, you may want to ensure that your
scripts are up-to-date with the latest script innovations, but you won't
need to modify your scripts simply because JAWS updated.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

2012-04-27 Thread Norman King
Hi alix.
Are you talking about a document that was imported as an image?

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

Can anyone please tell me how to read documents embedded in a word 2010
document?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key strokeforvirtualizing window

2012-04-27 Thread David Hardingham

Hi all,

What exactly is meant by the term 'virtualizing screen"

Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Becky B.

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key 
strokeforvirtualizing window


Alt insert W virtualizes screen.
- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Walters" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke
forvirtualizing window


-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
virtualizing window


Hi,
The subject line says it all. What is the key stroke for virtualizing a
window? Thanks in advance.
Jo



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[JAWS-Users] Embedded documents in word 2010

2012-04-27 Thread Alex Stone
Can anyone please tell me how to read documents embedded in a word 2010
document?

Cheers

Alex

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Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files

2012-04-27 Thread Paul Magill
Hi David,

Thank you, thank you for this info...

I have been scripting for a long time, but did not know this facility had 
been introduced.

Warm regards,
Paul from Australia

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 


I found this file under explore shared settings, the path is as follows:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom 
Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery
To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com)
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:02 AM
Subject: Here is the information I promised about adding to default script 
files


Hi David,



In the event you are just adding to your defaults rather than modifying our 
scripts, this could be helpful avoiding problems in the future.



Regards,

Eric



Safely Adding Default Scripts


Starting with JAWS 12, the default script file makes use of 
MyExtensions.jsb. MyExtensions.jss includes standard headers, but contains 
only a couple of stub functions for source code. The purpose of the 
MyExtensions scripts is to include in the JAWS distribution a script source 
file that will never contain any Freedom Scientific source code, thus 
allowing the end user to safely add new custom scripts without the need to 
make any changes due to a JAWS update. For this reason, new scripts and 
functions added to MyExtensions and placed in the user settings folder is a 
safe way to add custom scripts to JAWS.



You should be aware, however, that MyExtensions should not be used to 
overwrite existing scripts or functions. Default scripts and functions do 
not call down to MyExtensions, so any scripts or functions in MyExtensions 
that have the same name as those in default or application scripts will 
never run. Scripts or functions with unique names will run, which is why you 
can use MyExtensions for added scripts and functions.



Because JAWS key map (JKM) files are layered, you can also assign key 
mappings to your added MyExtensions scripts in default.jkm in your user 
settings. You can use Keyboard Manager to locate your scripts in 
MyExtensions by looking under Default scripts and assign keys to your custom 
scripts.



By adding your custom scripts to MyExtensions, and assigning keys in 
default, you can safely extend JAWS scripts to include your own custom 
scripts. If you have developed a library of custom functions in a JSB file, 
you can add it to MyExtensions through the Use statement and it will now be 
available to you.



Just remember to use unique names for scripts or functions added through 
MyExtensions, and save your modified MyExtensions source and compiled files 
to your user settings, and you should be able to enjoy your own custom 
scripts added to JAWS without having to make changes due to JAWS updates. 
You can also copy your MyExtensions files to new versions of JAWS. Depending 
on the extent of your script coding, you may want to ensure that your 
scripts are up-to-date with the latest script innovations, but you won't 
need to modify your scripts simply because JAWS updated.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for virtualizing window

2012-04-27 Thread Cornell Ligon

try insert, alt and W simultaneously.HTH!

Best Regards, Cornell

 > From: steven.hi...@nhs.net
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 08:23:51 +0100
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
> virtualizing window
> 
> JAWS key plus ALT and then W me thinks.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pam Walters
> Sent: 26 April 2012 23:54
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
> virtualizing window
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jo Luland
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
> virtualizing window
> 
> Hi,
> The subject line says it all. What is the key stroke for virtualizing a 
> window? Thanks in advance.
> Jo
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
You're preaching to the quire, never the less good advice.
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones 
that mind don't matter.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files


David

Be careful that you do not save that file back to the same location.
The safest thing to do is open the script manager then press
control+shift+d to open the default script file.

When you save and compile it will save to your user setting folder and
leave the all user default file untouched.

This way if you break something that you cannot put right you only have
to delete the default files from your user settings folder and you will
have full functionality returned.

Overwrite the all users file by mistake and break something then you are
reinstalling jaws to get it back.

Bob


On 27/04/2012 12:59, David Ferrin wrote:
> I found this file under explore shared settings, the path is as follows:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom 
> Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu
>
> David Ferrin
> Many people think they are generous because they give out free advice.
> - Original Message -
> From: Eric Damery
> To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com)
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:02 AM
> Subject: Here is the information I promised about adding to default script 
> files
>
>
> Hi David,
>
>
>
> In the event you are just adding to your defaults rather than modifying 
> our scripts, this could be helpful avoiding problems in the future.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> Safely Adding Default Scripts
>
>
> Starting with JAWS 12, the default script file makes use of 
> MyExtensions.jsb. MyExtensions.jss includes standard headers, but contains 
> only a couple of stub functions for source code. The purpose of the 
> MyExtensions scripts is to include in the JAWS distribution a script 
> source file that will never contain any Freedom Scientific source code, 
> thus allowing the end user to safely add new custom scripts without the 
> need to make any changes due to a JAWS update. For this reason, new 
> scripts and functions added to MyExtensions and placed in the user 
> settings folder is a safe way to add custom scripts to JAWS.
>
>
>
> You should be aware, however, that MyExtensions should not be used to 
> overwrite existing scripts or functions. Default scripts and functions do 
> not call down to MyExtensions, so any scripts or functions in MyExtensions 
> that have the same name as those in default or application scripts will 
> never run. Scripts or functions with unique names will run, which is why 
> you can use MyExtensions for added scripts and functions.
>
>
>
> Because JAWS key map (JKM) files are layered, you can also assign key 
> mappings to your added MyExtensions scripts in default.jkm in your user 
> settings. You can use Keyboard Manager to locate your scripts in 
> MyExtensions by looking under Default scripts and assign keys to your 
> custom scripts.
>
>
>
> By adding your custom scripts to MyExtensions, and assigning keys in 
> default, you can safely extend JAWS scripts to include your own custom 
> scripts. If you have developed a library of custom functions in a JSB 
> file, you can add it to MyExtensions through the Use statement and it will 
> now be available to you.
>
>
>
> Just remember to use unique names for scripts or functions added through 
> MyExtensions, and save your modified MyExtensions source and compiled 
> files to your user settings, and you should be able to enjoy your own 
> custom scripts added to JAWS without having to make changes due to JAWS 
> updates. You can also copy your MyExtensions files to new versions of 
> JAWS. Depending on the extent of your script coding, you may want to 
> ensure that your scripts are up-to-date with the latest script 
> innovations, but you won't need to modify your scripts simply because JAWS 
> updated.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF to accessible form?

2012-04-27 Thread Ann Marie Medlar
Thanks Rick, I just read the contents of the link.  I think I need another 
cup of coffee before I try it.  Thanks again.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF to accessible form?



Hi Ann Marie,
This does not apply to pdf forms, but may be of some help.

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Office/CREATINGACCESSIBLEFORMS.htm

HTH,
Rick Justice
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Marie Medlar" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF to accessible form?


No problem sometimes when I have to fill out a form I need to press the 
tab

key to get into field.  I don't want to mess up the formatting of original
form.  Just wondering if there is a standard way to create accessible 
forms.

I figure I would ask before I do it.
Thanks,
Ann

- Original Message - 
From: "Dujari, Prateek" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF to accessible form?



Let me understand: so you have an application as a PDF but in an
inaccessible format such that the edit fields or the edit spaces on the
PDF can't be accessed and edited by Jaws?
If yes, then there are many ways to convert it to formatted MS Word as 
you

yourself suggest with Open Book. there are other pieces of software to
convert to formatted MS Word also.
And once the form is in MS Word, you can just hit enter to create space 
in

the document to add your answers.
So what is the problem?

PDF


Prateek

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Marie
Medlar
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF to accessible form?

Hi all,
I am using Jaws 13 XP Pro OpenBook 8 Word2003
I have a PDF file which it is an application.  I wish to use OpenBook to
scan, save to word or text and format an accessible form so speech users
can
fill out independently.
Any standards to do this?
Any tutorials or Tips and Tricks?
Or anyone just tell me how.
Thanks,
Ann



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Re: [JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files

2012-04-27 Thread Bob

David

Be careful that you do not save that file back to the same location.
The safest thing to do is open the script manager then press 
control+shift+d to open the default script file.


When you save and compile it will save to your user setting folder and 
leave the all user default file untouched.


This way if you break something that you cannot put right you only have 
to delete the default files from your user settings folder and you will 
have full functionality returned.


Overwrite the all users file by mistake and break something then you are 
reinstalling jaws to get it back.


Bob


On 27/04/2012 12:59, David Ferrin wrote:

I found this file under explore shared settings, the path is as follows:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom 
Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

David Ferrin
Many people think they are generous because they give out free advice.
- Original Message -
From: Eric Damery
To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com)
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:02 AM
Subject: Here is the information I promised about adding to default script files


Hi David,



In the event you are just adding to your defaults rather than modifying our 
scripts, this could be helpful avoiding problems in the future.



Regards,

Eric



Safely Adding Default Scripts


Starting with JAWS 12, the default script file makes use of MyExtensions.jsb. 
MyExtensions.jss includes standard headers, but contains only a couple of stub 
functions for source code. The purpose of the MyExtensions scripts is to 
include in the JAWS distribution a script source file that will never contain 
any Freedom Scientific source code, thus allowing the end user to safely add 
new custom scripts without the need to make any changes due to a JAWS update. 
For this reason, new scripts and functions added to MyExtensions and placed in 
the user settings folder is a safe way to add custom scripts to JAWS.



You should be aware, however, that MyExtensions should not be used to overwrite 
existing scripts or functions. Default scripts and functions do not call down 
to MyExtensions, so any scripts or functions in MyExtensions that have the same 
name as those in default or application scripts will never run. Scripts or 
functions with unique names will run, which is why you can use MyExtensions for 
added scripts and functions.



Because JAWS key map (JKM) files are layered, you can also assign key mappings 
to your added MyExtensions scripts in default.jkm in your user settings. You 
can use Keyboard Manager to locate your scripts in MyExtensions by looking 
under Default scripts and assign keys to your custom scripts.



By adding your custom scripts to MyExtensions, and assigning keys in default, 
you can safely extend JAWS scripts to include your own custom scripts. If you 
have developed a library of custom functions in a JSB file, you can add it to 
MyExtensions through the Use statement and it will now be available to you.



Just remember to use unique names for scripts or functions added through 
MyExtensions, and save your modified MyExtensions source and compiled files to 
your user settings, and you should be able to enjoy your own custom scripts 
added to JAWS without having to make changes due to JAWS updates. You can also 
copy your MyExtensions files to new versions of JAWS. Depending on the extent 
of your script coding, you may want to ensure that your scripts are up-to-date 
with the latest script innovations, but you won't need to modify your scripts 
simply because JAWS updated.






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[JAWS-Users] information about adding to default script files

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrin
I found this file under explore shared settings, the path is as follows:

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Freedom 
Scientific\JAWS\13.0\Settings\enu

David Ferrin
Many people think they are generous because they give out free advice.
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Damery 
To: David Ferrin (d...@jaws-users.com) 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:02 AM
Subject: Here is the information I promised about adding to default script files


Hi David,

 

In the event you are just adding to your defaults rather than modifying our 
scripts, this could be helpful avoiding problems in the future.

 

Regards,

Eric

 

Safely Adding Default Scripts
 

Starting with JAWS 12, the default script file makes use of MyExtensions.jsb. 
MyExtensions.jss includes standard headers, but contains only a couple of stub 
functions for source code. The purpose of the MyExtensions scripts is to 
include in the JAWS distribution a script source file that will never contain 
any Freedom Scientific source code, thus allowing the end user to safely add 
new custom scripts without the need to make any changes due to a JAWS update. 
For this reason, new scripts and functions added to MyExtensions and placed in 
the user settings folder is a safe way to add custom scripts to JAWS.

 

You should be aware, however, that MyExtensions should not be used to overwrite 
existing scripts or functions. Default scripts and functions do not call down 
to MyExtensions, so any scripts or functions in MyExtensions that have the same 
name as those in default or application scripts will never run. Scripts or 
functions with unique names will run, which is why you can use MyExtensions for 
added scripts and functions.

 

Because JAWS key map (JKM) files are layered, you can also assign key mappings 
to your added MyExtensions scripts in default.jkm in your user settings. You 
can use Keyboard Manager to locate your scripts in MyExtensions by looking 
under Default scripts and assign keys to your custom scripts.

 

By adding your custom scripts to MyExtensions, and assigning keys in default, 
you can safely extend JAWS scripts to include your own custom scripts. If you 
have developed a library of custom functions in a JSB file, you can add it to 
MyExtensions through the Use statement and it will now be available to you.

 

Just remember to use unique names for scripts or functions added through 
MyExtensions, and save your modified MyExtensions source and compiled files to 
your user settings, and you should be able to enjoy your own custom scripts 
added to JAWS without having to make changes due to JAWS updates. You can also 
copy your MyExtensions files to new versions of JAWS. Depending on the extent 
of your script coding, you may want to ensure that your scripts are up-to-date 
with the latest script innovations, but you won't need to modify your scripts 
simply because JAWS updated.

 

 

 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

2012-04-27 Thread Norman King
Hi.
Yes I've noticed the same if I start viewing web pages to soon.
If you want to update I would say go ahead.
I did it an I had no script issues so I would try it.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

Well, my bank sometimes jaws like doesn't keep up with the ever changing
screens, and I have to keep the flash thingy turned on so I get all the
links to show up.
Facebook really doesn't agree with jaws some of the time. I could be editing
and or maybe doing a combo box and jaws just like is skipping out on me,
this is frustrating.
So I was thinking maybe this update addressed some of those issues.
Maybe jaws is too fast for some of these web sites, not meaning it talks
fast, but just the program runs faster on win 7 than like say some of these
web pages don't load as fast, so jaws skips around until the page is loaded
then it works as it should, does that make sense?

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?


If you are not having a problem then let sleeping dogs lay as the saying
goes.


David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:39 PM
To: users jaws list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

I've been reading all the posts and a little confused on the script issue
weather I am ok or not.

So, do I first look in the default area to see if that jb or js or whatever
it is is there and remove it?
I want to give this a try since this improvement suppose to help with
certain web pages using something that causes jaws to stop speaking, I have
been dealing with this now since using jaws 13 on my laptop. So, if they
have worked out that bug, then it's worth it to me to install this update,
but don't want to have to deal with some other issue in the process.
I saved some of the post which I usually do anyways, always find good help
here and a lot of knowledgeable people seem to have it figured out, smiles.

Trish


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

2012-04-27 Thread David
Hi Trish;
There's an old saying;
If it aint broke, don't fix it.
If your not experiencing issues, leave good enough alone.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:39 PM
To: users jaws list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws update how to?

I've been reading all the posts and a little confused on the script issue
weather I am ok or not.

So, do I first look in the default area to see if that jb or js or whatever
it is is there and remove it?
I want to give this a try since this improvement suppose to help with
certain web pages using something that causes jaws to stop speaking, I have
been dealing with this now since using jaws 13 on my laptop. So, if they
have worked out that bug, then it's worth it to me to install this update,
but don't want to have to deal with some other issue in the process.
I saved some of the post which I usually do anyways, always find good help
here and a lot of knowledgeable people seem to have it figured out, smiles.

Trish


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for virtualizing window

2012-04-27 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
JAWS key plus ALT and then W me thinks.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pam Walters
Sent: 26 April 2012 23:54
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
virtualizing window

-Original Message-
From: Jo Luland
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a senior moment about key stroke for 
virtualizing window

Hi,
The subject line says it all. What is the key stroke for virtualizing a window? 
Thanks in advance.
Jo



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