[JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.

[Neil Towery]

Hello  Gang: 

 From what I have learned over the past few days, we can help the
moderators, and not have their in box smoking. David has said it is nothing
that we, personally, are doing incorrectly. So, let's not bother them.

This is what I propose as a solution, when you get a bounce noticed from the
list: 

1. When you get a bounce notice, don't reply to the message possibility.
Arrow down, and strike enter on the link that is something like
"presubscribe." 

 2. It takes you to a web page. On this web page all you have to do is
strike enter on the button to re-subscribe. 

3. According to David's instructions,  and the message you hear after
selecting the button, you get back on the list to receive messages, and we
do not bother them. 

4. If these instructions are incorrect, would one of the moderators please
clarify these instructions. Help us make it easy for you.  

 Thanks. Neil Towery 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!

[Tom Behler]

Hi, all:

I had some extra time this morning, so I downloaded, installed, and ran the
GWX control panel program for getting rid of the nagging "get windows 10"
message on this computer.  And, I think it worked.  Sure hope those aren't
famous last words!  (grin)

Anyway, I appreciate everyone's patience as I have addressed this issue.

I do plan to upgrade to Windows 10 here at some point (probably this
summer), but would like the option and the timing of it to be under my
control.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!

Hi Holger,
Here is the link:

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/2015/08/using-gwx-stopper-to-permanently-re
move.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!


How do you install it and where I get it? My blank get W10 is back.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!

Hi Tom,
Wy don't you give the GWX Control Panel a shot,
it worked just fine on every system I have used it on, no more Windows 10
messages.

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 
To: "Jaws users list" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Get Windows 10 is back!


Hello, everyone.



Well, it looks like the hour that the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline
technician spent the other day trying to remove the "get windows 10" popup
removed from my computer was ultimately unsuccessful.



The thing is back!



Looks like it's time once again to call the Hotline, and have them try
again!



I find this to be absolutely ridiculous!



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan







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Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

[Faraz Qureshi]

hello David,

I heard the tutorials you shared about google chrome. I in fact google 
chrome user and they really help me out. it would good if you could share 
tutorials for windows 8.1 or windows 10 with jaws so many users like me get 
help from them instead of struggling with it.


best,

Faraz.

Director Sales, at
Technology Tracks
Complete IT solution for your business include websites and mobile 
applications.

Skype: farazqureshi1
Whatsapp/Viber/Facetime/IMessage: +923218405089
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
I am so happy that I could help. When I experienced the joy of using Chrome,
I wanted others to know how great it works. It pains me that FS is telling
people that will not be accessible for another two years. You are right that
some of the choices in the Google menu are sub menus, but JAWS does not tell
you. Book Marks is a great example of a sub menu that you have to press the
right arrow on to open it. If you or anyone else has any questions, please
ask me at any time.


-Original Message- 
From: K. Washington

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi David,

Well it was your post that encouraged me to give Chrome a try and I'm
glad I did.

Yes, JAWS 17 seems to work a whole lot better with it than with
FireFox and Internet Explorer. Much much faster. Haven't experienced
one single crash or bog down of speech output using it either.

I did notice that JAWS doesn't inform you when navigating down the
Chrome menu that a sub menu is attached to some choices. Hopefully a
future release of JAWS 17 will address that. Even the Ad Block
extension for Chrome is much more effective then the one I was using
for FireFox.

For the first time I'm going to take the time to learn every single
JAWS 17 and Google Chrome shortcut key for getting the most out of
this browser. Thanks again for suggesting this to the list.

At 10:50 PM 1/27/2016, you wrote:

Hi,
Here is my tutorial. It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to 
download the tutorial. As soon as you press enter on the link below, you 
should be able to save the file to your computer. It is an MP3 file that 
lasts about an hour. Enjoy and ask me any questions about Chrome. Here is 
the link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/impaitkl8rad3qi/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.mp3?dl=1


-Original Message- From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Thank you!
Yes, please do send the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Chrome is great when you get used to it. I have a tutorial I did on Chrome
if you want it. To set chrome to open on a certain home page, press alt and
the Google menu will come up. Now, up arrow to settings and press enter. A
web page will open up with many settings you can adjust. Arrow down to 
start

up and make sure that the third radio button is checked to open with a
certain page. Now, there will be an edit field right below that to enter 
the

address you would like to have opened every time. I have Google in there,
but you can put any URL. Have a great one and let me know if you would like
the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:46 PM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I just installed chrome version 48. I felt pressured to do so as everyone
has it lol. How do I set my homepage for chrome. So far I hate chrome but I
have only had it for less than half hour now.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] The latest Jaws 17 and the Latest w-10 update

[David Bailes]

Hi Jim,
thanks for the warning and for informing freedom scientific. Hopefully they'll 
fix this really quickly.

I checked the settings app on my computer using the latest version of jaws and 
found the following:
1. Most of the toggle switches read correctly, but some didn't, including the 
one you gave as an example.
2. When the toggle switch was read incorrectly: if the toggle switch was in 
fact off, it was read as on; if the toggle switch was in fact on, then it's 
state was not read.
3. The toggle switches which were read incorrectly, are as follows:
a. In system, notifications & actions, all the toggle switches in the show 
notifications from these apps section.
b. In Privacy. In any of the categories on that page where there are a series 
of toggle switches for specific apps, for example, choose apps that can use 
your location.
c. In Update & security, backup. The Automatically backup my files toggle 
switch. The misreading of this switch is very unfortunate.

David.

original message:
Good afternoon Jaws Users group. 
Urgent warning! 
The following is a copy of the email I sent to F S support. 
If any of you still have Jaws 16 and the Latest Jaws 17 installed on your w-10 
computer, with the latest w-10 update of yesterday or today, depending when 
your computer updated to it. 
Please call or email Freedom Scientific if you can verify what I have proven on 
three different computers running the latest Jaws 17 update and running the 
latest w-10 update. 
Email: 

supp...@freedomscientific.com 

Here is my message to them explaining the problem: 
Dear Freedom Scientific. 

This email concerns the latest version of Jaws, 17.0.1377, and the latest 
update to w-10 of yesterday, January 27, 2016. 

When in the settings area of w-10, Jaws 17 reads the status of all the buttons 
incorrectly, weather they are on/off. 

For example, Windows key+I, for settings. 

Press enter on Privacy. 

Down arrow to, Background Apps, press enter. 

Tab two times to, Alarms and clock. 

Jaws 16, says, just button, which means it’s off. 

Jaws 17, says, Toggle switch on. 

This is only one example, Jaws reads all the buttons in the setting area of 
w-10 wrong, it gives the opposite of what the buttons are actually set to. 

Yes, I have proven this myself with sited verification, on three different 
computers running the Latest Jaws 17 and running the latest w-10 update of 
yesterday. 

I called your technical support line and showed them. 

They did not believe me at first. 

I had to do a Jaws tandem to show them what was going on. 

I also had a partially sited Jaws user of w-10 on the three way phone call with 
them for verification. 

Even running Jaws 17 in default mode, I was able to reproduce this problem for 
them. 

I was able to switch back to Jaws 16 and show them that Jaws 16 just said 
button, which means the button is off. 

I would then turn Jaws 17 on, and it said, Toggle switch on. 

So this is a very important issue, a lot of Jaws users just use Jaws 17 on 
their w-10 computers. 

After yesterday’s update to w-10, Jaws 17 will read the opposite information to 
them while in the settings area of w-10 concerning the status of the buttons, 
weather they are on or off. 

As you can imagine, this is not a good thing, they will think the button is set 
to off, but it is on instead. 

I have been a long time user of Jaws, however, I am a little disappointed in 
the response of the person from your technical support line. 

She was a bit rude, she talked down to me, she did not have, or use a w-10 
computer. 

I patiently explained to her, that I ran a w-10 and Jaws computer group. 

That I would not waist her time or mine by calling in, if I had not already 
verified this issue on three different computers with a sited person verifying 
What I was hearing. 

This is the Jaws claim number she gave me, 

** 

Any help with this issue would be appreciated. 

Sincerely: James Flusche 

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal. 
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health. 
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth. 
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits. 
Jim

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[JAWS-Users] Adobe Acrobat Reader DC

[Gary Ray]

I am following up on this thread.

 

Walt Smith:

 

What is your current thinking about this new DC product?

 

Also, Walt, would you send me an email, off list to
gary.hubert@gmail.com so we can have an off list communication.

 

Thanx!

 

Gary Ray

Asheville, NC

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Walt Smith

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:06 PM

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] acrobat reader

 

It will install a toolbar, though. However, you are prompted whether or not
to enable it the first time you open your browser or, at least, this
happened first time I opened IE 11 after installation. Also, the
installation is absolutely not blind-friendly--I'm a highly experienced JAWS
user and former FS employee and I had to have my sighted wife help me with
the installation because absolutely nothing spoke during that process. Like
I said, I wish I'd never have heard of this program because every time I
open a document--even a single-page document--JAWS stops speaking. 

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario

Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 10:28 AM

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] acrobat reader

 

if no one has said, for reader 11, that is the file name that is the
installer. it is not a toolbar.

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

[Patti]

When I go to download this I get an error, so what can I do to get this?
Patti

Hi,
Here is my tutorial. It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to
download the tutorial. As soon as you press enter on the link below, you
should be able to save the file to your computer. It is an MP3 file that
lasts about an hour. Enjoy and ask me any questions about Chrome. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/impaitkl8rad3qi/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Thank you!
Yes, please do send the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Chrome is great when you get used to it. I have a tutorial I did on Chrome
if you want it. To set chrome to open on a certain home page, press alt and
the Google menu will come up. Now, up arrow to settings and press enter. A
web page will open up with many settings you can adjust. Arrow down to start
up and make sure that the third radio button is checked to open with a
certain page. Now, there will be an edit field right below that to enter the
address you would like to have opened every time. I have Google in there,
but you can put any URL. Have a great one and let me know if you would like
the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:46 PM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I just installed chrome version 48. I felt pressured to do so as everyone
has it lol. How do I set my homepage for chrome. So far I hate chrome but I
have only had it for less than half hour now.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] The latest Jaws 17 and the Latest w-10 update

[jim]

Hi David, thanks for confirming.
Yes, Freedom Scientific said they would fix it as soon as possible.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:37 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The latest Jaws 17 and the Latest w-10 update

Hi Jim,
thanks for the warning and for informing freedom scientific. Hopefully 
they'll fix this really quickly.


I checked the settings app on my computer using the latest version of jaws 
and found the following:
1. Most of the toggle switches read correctly, but some didn't, including 
the one you gave as an example.
2. When the toggle switch was read incorrectly: if the toggle switch was in 
fact off, it was read as on; if the toggle switch was in fact on, then it's 
state was not read.

3. The toggle switches which were read incorrectly, are as follows:
a. In system, notifications & actions, all the toggle switches in the show 
notifications from these apps section.
b. In Privacy. In any of the categories on that page where there are a 
series of toggle switches for specific apps, for example, choose apps that 
can use your location.
c. In Update & security, backup. The Automatically backup my files toggle 
switch. The misreading of this switch is very unfortunate.


David.

original message:
Good afternoon Jaws Users group.
Urgent warning!
The following is a copy of the email I sent to F S support.
If any of you still have Jaws 16 and the Latest Jaws 17 installed on your 
w-10

computer, with the latest w-10 update of yesterday or today, depending when
your computer updated to it.
Please call or email Freedom Scientific if you can verify what I have proven 
on

three different computers running the latest Jaws 17 update and running the
latest w-10 update.
Email:

supp...@freedomscientific.com

Here is my message to them explaining the problem:
Dear Freedom Scientific.

This email concerns the latest version of Jaws, 17.0.1377, and the latest
update to w-10 of yesterday, January 27, 2016.

When in the settings area of w-10, Jaws 17 reads the status of all the 
buttons

incorrectly, weather they are on/off.

For example, Windows key+I, for settings.

Press enter on Privacy.

Down arrow to, Background Apps, press enter.

Tab two times to, Alarms and clock.

Jaws 16, says, just button, which means it’s off.

Jaws 17, says, Toggle switch on.

This is only one example, Jaws reads all the buttons in the setting area of
w-10 wrong, it gives the opposite of what the buttons are actually set to.

Yes, I have proven this myself with sited verification, on three different
computers running the Latest Jaws 17 and running the latest w-10 update of
yesterday.

I called your technical support line and showed them.

They did not believe me at first.

I had to do a Jaws tandem to show them what was going on.

I also had a partially sited Jaws user of w-10 on the three way phone call 
with

them for verification.

Even running Jaws 17 in default mode, I was able to reproduce this problem 
for

them.

I was able to switch back to Jaws 16 and show them that Jaws 16 just said
button, which means the button is off.

I would then turn Jaws 17 on, and it said, Toggle switch on.

So this is a very important issue, a lot of Jaws users just use Jaws 17 on
their w-10 computers.

After yesterday’s update to w-10, Jaws 17 will read the opposite information 
to
them while in the settings area of w-10 concerning the status of the 
buttons,

weather they are on or off.

As you can imagine, this is not a good thing, they will think the button is 
set

to off, but it is on instead.

I have been a long time user of Jaws, however, I am a little disappointed in
the response of the person from your technical support line.

She was a bit rude, she talked down to me, she did not have, or use a w-10
computer.

I patiently explained to her, that I ran a w-10 and Jaws computer group.

That I would not waist her time or mine by calling in, if I had not already
verified this issue on three different computers with a sited person 
verifying

What I was hearing.

This is the Jaws claim number she gave me,

**

Any help with this issue would be appreciated.

Sincerely: James Flusche

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching

His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good

health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

[David Moore]

Hi,
Thank you for pointing this out. I will post the link below again, and we 
will see if it works this time. I am so sorry. I thought people were able to 
download this tutorial all of this time. You should be able to enter on this 
link and you should be able to save it to your computer right away. Here is 
the link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.mp3?dl=1


-Original Message- 
From: Patti

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

When I go to download this I get an error, so what can I do to get this?
Patti

Hi,
Here is my tutorial. It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to
download the tutorial. As soon as you press enter on the link below, you
should be able to save the file to your computer. It is an MP3 file that
lasts about an hour. Enjoy and ask me any questions about Chrome. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/impaitkl8rad3qi/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Thank you!
Yes, please do send the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Chrome is great when you get used to it. I have a tutorial I did on Chrome
if you want it. To set chrome to open on a certain home page, press alt and
the Google menu will come up. Now, up arrow to settings and press enter. A
web page will open up with many settings you can adjust. Arrow down to start
up and make sure that the third radio button is checked to open with a
certain page. Now, there will be an edit field right below that to enter the
address you would like to have opened every time. I have Google in there,
but you can put any URL. Have a great one and let me know if you would like
the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:46 PM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I just installed chrome version 48. I felt pressured to do so as everyone
has it lol. How do I set my homepage for chrome. So far I hate chrome but I
have only had it for less than half hour now.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

[David Ferrin]

I got it the other day and listened to it this morning in fact.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Thank you for pointing this out. I will post the link below again, and we
will see if it works this time. I am so sorry. I thought people were able to
download this tutorial all of this time. You should be able to enter on this
link and you should be able to save it to your computer right away. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Patti
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

When I go to download this I get an error, so what can I do to get this?
Patti

Hi,
Here is my tutorial. It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to
download the tutorial. As soon as you press enter on the link below, you
should be able to save the file to your computer. It is an MP3 file that
lasts about an hour. Enjoy and ask me any questions about Chrome. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/impaitkl8rad3qi/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Thank you!
Yes, please do send the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Chrome is great when you get used to it. I have a tutorial I did on Chrome
if you want it. To set chrome to open on a certain home page, press alt and
the Google menu will come up. Now, up arrow to settings and press enter. A
web page will open up with many settings you can adjust. Arrow down to start
up and make sure that the third radio button is checked to open with a
certain page. Now, there will be an edit field right below that to enter the
address you would like to have opened every time. I have Google in there,
but you can put any URL. Have a great one and let me know if you would like
the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:46 PM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I just installed chrome version 48. I felt pressured to do so as everyone
has it lol. How do I set my homepage for chrome. So far I hate chrome but I
have only had it for less than half hour now.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

[Kimsan]

In fact, I keep getting an error.

We can't find what you're looking for.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I got it the other day and listened to it this morning in fact.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Thank you for pointing this out. I will post the link below again, and we
will see if it works this time. I am so sorry. I thought people were able to
download this tutorial all of this time. You should be able to enter on this
link and you should be able to save it to your computer right away. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ni7ydojdlehiqsc/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Patti
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

When I go to download this I get an error, so what can I do to get this?
Patti

Hi,
Here is my tutorial. It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to
download the tutorial. As soon as you press enter on the link below, you
should be able to save the file to your computer. It is an MP3 file that
lasts about an hour. Enjoy and ask me any questions about Chrome. Here is
the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/impaitkl8rad3qi/Tutorial%20for%20Google%20Chrome.m
p3?dl=1


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Thank you!
Yes, please do send the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] chrome

Hi,
Chrome is great when you get used to it. I have a tutorial I did on Chrome
if you want it. To set chrome to open on a certain home page, press alt and
the Google menu will come up. Now, up arrow to settings and press enter. A
web page will open up with many settings you can adjust. Arrow down to start
up and make sure that the third radio button is checked to open with a
certain page. Now, there will be an edit field right below that to enter the
address you would like to have opened every time. I have Google in there,
but you can put any URL. Have a great one and let me know if you would like
the tutorial.


-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:46 PM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] chrome

I just installed chrome version 48. I felt pressured to do so as everyone
has it lol. How do I set my homepage for chrome. So far I hate chrome but I
have only had it for less than half hour now.

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[Dave Carlson]

That won't work. Send to this address to get some help:

http://www.jaws-users.com/help

Dave Carlson
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[JAWS-Users] Adobe XI download- where to get?

[Cher Bosch]

Looking for a clean copy of Adobe Reader- Since Some of you are saying the
Adobe Reader DC has problems with JAWS, can you steer me toward a site to
get a safe copy of Adobe Reader XI? Not sure if this file from filehippo
will let me uncheck the add-ins before installing . 

Title: Adobe Reader 11.0.10 

Filename: AdbeRdr11010_en_US.exe

 

Thanks- Cher

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.

[David Ferrin]

If you simply ignore the message from Mailman the server will remove your 
email address from the list after a few days. Honestly it has been such a 
long time since I last reviewed those settings I just don't remember them 
off hand. Guess I need to do that today sometime.

So far as the earlier instructions are concerned if memory serves they are 
correct. FYI simply replying to the mailman message will reactivate your 
account as well.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "petras" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.


What happens if you ignore these messages?

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From: "Neil Towery " 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

[Neil Towery]

1 800 936 5900
 They are good. Neil 


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gail the U.S. Male
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

What is the Microsoft accessability hotline phone number?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga


Just keep a very close eye on your computer to make sure that Windows 10
does not get installed surreptitiously.  It's bad enough that Microsoft in
general cannot be trusted, but based on your experience, even the agents who
man the special accessibility help line can't be trusted, either.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Annette Carr
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

I just got off of the phone with the Microsoft Accessibility support line.
I can't say that I am as happy as the rest of you have been with the
assistance I received.  Before beginning to remote into my computer, he
tried every way possible to convince me to let him install Windows10.  Maybe
he just did not understand English well.  I finally had to ask to speak to a
supervisor or manager, and he then agreed to do what I was asking.

When he was done, I asked him to review what he had done.  He told me that
he hid the Windows10 installation icon.  I asked how long will the icon stay
hidden and he said for a few days.  I told him that I wanted it removed
completely from my computer and he said that there is no way to do that, and
that I will be happier in a few days if I would call back and have them
install windows10 for me.

So on the positive side , I will not be annoyed by the Windows10 update
window for a few days.

Annette

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Update On "Get Windows 10" Saga

Hello, everyone.



As I stated earlier, despite my best efforts, the "Get Windows 10" message
re-appeared on my home Windows 7 computer once again late this afternoon.



Admittedly, I did not install the GWX control panel program software that a
few had suggested, because I was a little leary of putting new software on
my computer without really knowing what I was doing.



Anyway, having spent far too many hours on this needlessly-created  issue so
far, I decided to call the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline for assistance.



It turns out that somehow, the "get windows 10" message, and associated
files had been installed on my computer in several different locations.  It
took the accessibility specialist a full hour to get everything properly
uninstalled and operating as it should.



I couldn't tell for sure, but I even think the accessibility specialist was
getting frustrated at several points.



I used this situation as an opportunity to let her know in no uncertain
terms that Microsoft is not making any friends among blind computer users
who are being harassed repeatedly with the "get windows 10" message, and
that I would hope this could somehow be taken into consideration.



I am sure, as someone else pointed out, this complaint and my situation will
not mean diddley to Microsoft.  But, I would urge anyone with this issue to
contact the Accessibility Hotline, rather than trying to go it alone with
only frustration as the end result.



At least, this is my suggestion at this time, based on my recent experience.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Helping moderators with bounces.

[petras]

What happens if you ignore these messages?

- Original Message -
From: "Neil Towery "