Re: [JAWS-Users] Using and sharing your OneDrive

[TheHangMan]

Betty,
Sorry, I don't know of any tutorials,

Don't call me Sir,
I am not in the Military anymore and I don't work anymore either,
Take care (Smile),
Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Betty R. Moruthanyana
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 2:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using and sharing your OneDrive

Hi sir

is there any tutorial for the application, do you know?
Betty

On 4/8/16, TheHangMan  wrote:
> Betty,
> A DJ recommended to me virtual DJ like you and, when I downloaded the 
> free version, It was not accessable, They also have the virtual DJ Pro 
> Hahaha!
> What makes that any different?
>
>   Jorge
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Betty R. Moruthanyana
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:11 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using and sharing your OneDrive
>
> Hi guys
>
> I like music and think of becoming a DJ.
>
> My problem is that the well known application used by sighted guys is 
> screen reader inaccessible.
>
> I am particularly talking about virtual DJ.
>
> Does anyone know of this application and has ever used it with a 
> screen reader?
>
> I find it difficult to use with nvda and jaws.
>
> Do you know of any application I can use that is doing nearly the same 
> thing as virtual DJ?
>
> Come to my rescue.
>
> Wally
>
> On 4/6/16, Jim  wrote:
>> Good morning Jaws Users group,
>> Many of my group members wanted to know how to use OneDrive.
>> I decided to share these notes with you.
>> Below is the way I do it in w-10 with Jaws.
>> How to set up and use the OneDrive back up for yourself and how to 
>> share a folder with others.
>> Open your personal folder link under the start area if you have it 
>> set up that way, go down to OneDrive, press enter.
>> Or, type OneDrive into the search edit box, press enter on OneDrive 
>> desktop app.
>> Or, if OneDrive is on your Taskbar, press enter on it there, or press 
>> its shortcut keystroke windows key+the number of its order on the 
>> Taskbar.
>> Or, press the windows key, up arrow to, All apps, press enter.
>> Down arrow to the A's, tab one time, down arrow to the O, press enter 
>> twice, you will be in the programs and apps starting with O, press 
>> enter on OneDrive.
>> Now you will be in a list of default OneDrive folders, that you can 
>> use, or you can create your own folders in OneDrive.
>> In this example, I will create my own folder under the main default 
>> folder list of OneDrive.
>> While you are in the list of default folders under the main OneDrive 
>> folder list.
>> 1. Press Control+shift+N, for new folder.
>> 2. In this example, I will type the name, "Jaws users", then press 
>> enter to create this new folder.
>> 3. Copy the files or folders you wish to back-up, and paste them into 
>> this new Jaws Users folder.
>> Do the same thing if you wish to share this folder with others by a 
>> OneDrive link , copy and paste any files into this new folder.
>> Now we need to sink our OneDrive folders if you wish too, you do not 
>> have to sink your OneDrive folders if you do not want too.
>> 4. Highlight the new folder, in my case, Jaws users, do not press enter.
>> 5. Press the applications key, down arrow to, Choose OneDrive folders 
>> to sink, press enter.
>> 6. Now, you can choose a check-box to sink all folders.
>> Or, uncheck this, tab to the list view of folders, only check the 
>> folders you wish to sink to your computer by pressing the Spacebar.
>> After checking all the folders you wish to sink, tab to OK, press enter.
>> Now, How to share this new OneDrive folder and its contents, with 
>> others through a OneDrive link.
>> 7. Now, highlight your new folder, in my case, Jaws users, do not 
>> press enter.
>> 8. Press the Applications key, go down to, Share a OneDrive link, 
>> press enter.
>> By pressing Enter, This automatically pastes, a OneDrive link to this 
>> folder, that you can share with others, into the clipboard.
>> 9. Now, open an email to the person you wish to give access to this 
>> OneDrive folder and all its content, in my case the Jaws users list.
>> 10. Paste the OneDrive link into the email, this will give that 
>> person a link to access the folder you are sharing with them.
>> What does it mean to sink your OneDrive folders?
>> When you choose to sink your OneDrive folders on your computer.
>> You have a copy of these files online, on your OneDrive page.
>> You also place a copy of these files in your OneDrive folder.
>> Now, the advantage of doing it this way is:
>> When you are inside the OneDrive folder and inside a text file in one 
>> of your shared folders, for example.
>> Whatever changes you make to that text document, are automatically 
>> changed in the text document stored in One

[JAWS-Users] jaws not starting at startup, win10?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
Have changed the subject from prior thread.

Ran the repair which was successful.
Jaws still doesn't start at startup.
Have checked the settings, start for this user is always, Jaws speaks at 
the login screen as it signs in.

(I don't have a password for my local account).
Have tried comvinations of checking and unchecking the boxes re startup 
with the same result.


The shortcut on the desktop is set to run as admin.
What I find strange but maybe normal is if I go to properties to make 
the shortcut key it says I need admin permission and by pressing enter 
grants it.


Any other ideas on what I can do to get jaws starting at startup?


--


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a...@damorris.com





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Re: [JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

[Adrian Spratt]

The version and release you download for the repair must be the same that 
you're running on your system, and it is that release number that you 
incorporate into the windows run command line.

Adam, you say you've already downloaded the JAWS file, so that's the one you 
copy into your root folder and proceed to follow Ed's transcribed FS 
instructions. Two more notes: 

1. After you finish entering the command line and press enter, you may find 
yourself waiting a pretty long time. But JAWS will be speaking for much of the 
process.

2. At one point, I think before the 30% mark, you'll be told that JAWS is 
installing a certain file with "sentinel" in the name. Several times in my 
experience, the repair process has abruptly ceased soon after. Usually, 
starting the process over gets you past this obstacle. It's easy to start over 
because the command line will still be in the run window. I think one time I 
had to reboot and restart the process to get past this point. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Pinky
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 11:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

Try running a repair using the instructions. 
Download the JAWSR screen reading software version 17.0 update to the root
of the hard drive from one of the links below:

. JAWS 17.0.1806 64-bit English - April 2016 
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/17180468DA9E/
J17.0.1806enu-x64.exe

. JAWS 17.0.1806 32-bit English - April 2016 
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/17180468DA9E/
J17.0.1806enu-x86.exe

Once the file is on the root of your hard drive, take the steps below to run
a repair and see if the issue persist.

1.Activate the run dialog "windows key+r"
2.Type in:
c:\J17.0.1806enu-x64.exe /type repair
or
c:\J17.0.1806enu-x86.exe /type repair
And hit enter


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:02 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

Hi all,

On my desktop jaws won't start automatically.
Is the only way to do a repair by pressing enter on the downloaded file or
is there another way to do a repair with a command line?
Is there a difference between pressing enter on the exe and selecting repair
or using the command line?


-- 


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a...@damorris.com





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Dave Carlson]

Patty,

Have you made sure that you have maximized your Excel window?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "patti" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 02:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


I have the same problem when I press f2 to change the info.
I just get a blank, but I know something is in that square, smile.
Patti

Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
>
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
>
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and
> the arrow keys.
>
> My work around today was
>
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the
> corrected formula back into the cell.
>
>
> Annette
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a
> cell without having to use the F2 key.
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Annette Carr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-User

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Dave Carlson]

Cory,

Have you made sure your Excel window is maximized?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "kory anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 02:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


i am having the same issue with jaws 15 and excel 2007 can anyone help?

-Original Message- 
From: Pinky
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi Annette,
I opened up a new Excel page and typed in some text in each cell. I did the
F2 key and it worked fine on my pc running the latest version of Jaws and
Excel 2010. If you open a new Excel and put something in the cells and then
try the F2 key does it work then? Just wondering if it is something to do
with the Excel sheet you are trying to do this in. Second thing the Excel
sheet you are trying to use is not in protective mode is it. Just drawing
straws for ideas.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, I make sure it is maximized.  I just updated my personal machine to the
Latest build of JAWS and I am waiting for a sample spreadsheet to arrive in
my mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
>
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On 

Re: [JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

[Pinky]

Try running a repair using the instructions. 
Download the JAWSR screen reading software version 17.0 update to the root
of the hard drive from one of the links below:

. JAWS 17.0.1806 64-bit English - April 2016 
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/17180468DA9E/
J17.0.1806enu-x64.exe

. JAWS 17.0.1806 32-bit English - April 2016 
ftp://ftp.freedomscientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/JAWS/17180468DA9E/
J17.0.1806enu-x86.exe

Once the file is on the root of your hard drive, take the steps below to run
a repair and see if the issue persist.

1.Activate the run dialog "windows key+r"
2.Type in:
c:\J17.0.1806enu-x64.exe /type repair
or
c:\J17.0.1806enu-x86.exe /type repair
And hit enter


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:02 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

Hi all,

On my desktop jaws won't start automatically.
Is the only way to do a repair by pressing enter on the downloaded file or
is there another way to do a repair with a command line?
Is there a difference between pressing enter on the exe and selecting repair
or using the command line?


-- 


Adam Morris

email:
a...@damorris.com





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[JAWS-Users] running a repair, jaws 17, win10?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,

On my desktop jaws won't start automatically.
Is the only way to do a repair by pressing enter on the downloaded file 
or is there another way to do a repair with a command line?
Is there a difference between pressing enter on the exe and selecting 
repair or using the command line?



--


Adam Morris

email:
a...@damorris.com





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Re: [JAWS-Users] ATTN FS Hidden Text in Word

[Jean Menzies]

1. Highlight the portion you wish to hide

2. Right-click and select Font…

3. In the Effects section, select Hidden

4. Click OK





-Original Message- 
From: Jonathan Cohn

Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ATTN FS Hidden Text in Word

How do you hide text?  Is the behavior still work in jaws 14? P


Jonathan Cohn


On Apr 8, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Jean Menzies  wrote:

Hello all, and hopefully to any FS Staff on list.

Starting with JAWS 16, JAWS was no longer able to read Hidden Text in 
Word. I went through the somewhat arduous task of documenting this and 
opening a ticket with FS Support. The issue was escalated beyond the 
initial evaluation of the problem, but sadly, JAWS still cannot read 
hidden text. This is now Version 17.0.1806. I am using Word 2013. This is 
very easy for you to reproduce. Simply open Word, type some text, and hide 
it. Under Options, indicate that you want hidden text visible. JAWS will 
not read it.


I gather this issue is not high on the priority list for FS, as it is not 
a sexy or much-used feature. But it does impact me and my ability to use, 
in particular, the Duxbury Word template, which depends heavily on the use 
of hidden text for braille coding.


I realize I could once again open a Support ticket, but I’m not convinced 
that would make much difference in the outcome. I know companies do 
communicate with each other. In my humble opinion, it would be easy enough 
for FS to obtain a copy of the Duxbury Word template, and open a document 
based on that template. The problems would soon be apparent. Perhaps the 
problems are with the template, but the template creator says nothing has 
changed in that regard for years. The change has been something with JAWS 
starting with V16.


I am putting this on a public list in hopes of just that, making my 
concern and frustration public. I would appreciate it if you would deal 
with this issue.


Jean Menzies
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS reading in Word print envelopes

[George Martinez CPA]

I am using Windows 7, Word 2016 and JAWS 17.
I just went in to print an envelope and when I got to the Envelope/Label
window I noted that the return address was blank because I had just
installed a new hard drive and re-installed my Office 365.
So, I typed in my return address and while doing so I suddenly became aware
JAWS was not only reading the keystrokes but would read the line and when I
arrowed up it read ALL lines.
I went back up to the address I had just imported and to my delighted
surprise JAWS read the lines there also.
It looks like FS has finally been able to get this working for us.
Thanks FS.
George

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of kory anderson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 15 not reading information in excel 2007

i am having the same issue with jaws 15 and excel 2007 can anyone help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

[Mike B]

Hi Bob,

Here are some other ways to disable function keys with Lenovo laptops:

Press and hold and the Fn key for about 20 to 30 seconds. There would be a 
menu that pops up that asks whether you want to switch back to legacy mode.
Just select the legacy option and you would be back to the old keyboard 
F1-F12 function that you always wanted.
Regards,

***

You can disable fn key settings as given below:

1) Go to control panel

2) Open keyboard properties

3) Go to on tab "Thinkpad F1-F12 Keys"

4) Select now on legacy option

5) Click on Apply and Ok.

6) Now your laptop function keys will work as you are expecting
Smiley Happy

***

Really, no one has mentioned going into the bios and choosing legacy fn 
mode?  I too thought this was easy, but why use software for keys that 
function
at the lowest hardware level?

***

Then go into your BIOS menu, under config, keyboard, there is an option for 
Fn to have the legacy mode.
Regards,



Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T 
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi Mike,
 Thanks for this info.  Unfortunately that did not work for me.
Thanks,
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Reed,

On my wife's Lenovo E540E, FN key + Escape, disables the function keys.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi All, I have a Lenovo B50-80 and need to change the function keys so that
I do not have to use the F/N key. I have only found ways to do this by going
into the BIOS. And I am thinking that someone gave directions on how to do
this without going that route. If anyone could push me in that direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

[REGilman]

No worries, Don't worry about it Mitch. I have been called worse.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Bob,

Sorry for calling you by the wrong name!  It sound like Jaws is saying,
Reed, when it's really saying, RE!  LOL Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi Mike,
 Thanks for this info.  Unfortunately that did not work for me.
Thanks,
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Reed,

On my wife's Lenovo E540E, FN key + Escape, disables the function keys.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi All, I have a Lenovo B50-80 and need to change the function keys so that
I do not have to use the F/N key. I have only found ways to do this by going
into the BIOS. And I am thinking that someone gave directions on how to do
this without going that route. If anyone could push me in that direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Pinky]

When you do the F2 key then try arrowing left do you hear anything then?
Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

I have the same problem when I press f2 to change the info.
I just get a blank, but I know something is in that square, smile.
Patti

Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.  

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.  

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?  

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid. 
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )  


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
> 
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width 
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual 
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.  
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my 
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each 
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a 
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that 
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
> 
> Annette
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> 
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and 
> the arrow keys.
> 
> My work around today was
> 
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste 
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the 
> corrected formula back into the cell.
> 
> 
> Annette
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the 
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the 
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a 
> cell without having to use the F2 key.
> Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Annette Carr
> Sent: Wednesday, March

Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there any documentation from FS about implementing a JAWS driver for a speech synthesizer

[Jonathan Cohn]

Any reason not to use SAPI?


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:39 PM, BHW Toptoptop  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> Does any one know if FS provides any documentation on how to implement a 
> driver for JAWS, like ones shipped with the program (e.g. in the drivers 
> folder)?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ATTN FS Hidden Text in Word

[Jonathan Cohn]

How do you hide text?  Is the behavior still work in jaws 14? P 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Apr 8, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Jean Menzies  wrote:
> 
> Hello all, and hopefully to any FS Staff on list. 
> 
> Starting with JAWS 16, JAWS was no longer able to read Hidden Text in Word. I 
> went through the somewhat arduous task of documenting this and opening a 
> ticket with FS Support. The issue was escalated beyond the initial evaluation 
> of the problem, but sadly, JAWS still cannot read hidden text. This is now 
> Version 17.0.1806. I am using Word 2013. This is very easy for you to 
> reproduce. Simply open Word, type some text, and hide it. Under Options, 
> indicate that you want hidden text visible. JAWS will not read it. 
> 
> I gather this issue is not high on the priority list for FS, as it is not a 
> sexy or much-used feature. But it does impact me and my ability to use, in 
> particular, the Duxbury Word template, which depends heavily on the use of 
> hidden text for braille coding. 
> 
> I realize I could once again open a Support ticket, but I’m not convinced 
> that would make much difference in the outcome. I know companies do 
> communicate with each other. In my humble opinion, it would be easy enough 
> for FS to obtain a copy of the Duxbury Word template, and open a document 
> based on that template. The problems would soon be apparent. Perhaps the 
> problems are with the template, but the template creator says nothing has 
> changed in that regard for years. The change has been something with JAWS 
> starting with V16. 
> 
> I am putting this on a public list in hopes of just that, making my concern 
> and frustration public. I would appreciate it if you would deal with this 
> issue. 
> 
> Jean Menzies
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[patti]

I have the same problem when I press f2 to change the info.
I just get a blank, but I know something is in that square, smile.
Patti

Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.  

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.  

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?  

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid. 
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )  


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
> 
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width 
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual 
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.  
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my 
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each 
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a 
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that 
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
> 
> Annette
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> 
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and 
> the arrow keys.
> 
> My work around today was
> 
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste 
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the 
> corrected formula back into the cell.
> 
> 
> Annette
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the 
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the 
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a 
> cell without having to use the F2 key.
> Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Annette Carr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I am using JAWS17 on a Windows7 machine with Excel2010.  The problem 
> I'm about to describe did exist when using JAWS16, but if I was 
> persistent, I could eventually get JAWS to read th

[JAWS-Users] jaws 15 not reading information in excel 2007

[kory anderson]

i am having the same issue with jaws 15 and excel 2007 can anyone help?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[kory anderson]

i am having the same issue with jaws 15 and excel 2007 can anyone help?

-Original Message- 
From: Pinky

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Hi Annette,
I opened up a new Excel page and typed in some text in each cell. I did the
F2 key and it worked fine on my pc running the latest version of Jaws and
Excel 2010. If you open a new Excel and put something in the cells and then
try the F2 key does it work then? Just wondering if it is something to do
with the Excel sheet you are trying to do this in. Second thing the Excel
sheet you are trying to use is not in protective mode is it. Just drawing
straws for ideas.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, I make sure it is maximized.  I just updated my personal machine to the
Latest build of JAWS and I am waiting for a sample spreadsheet to arrive in
my mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn


On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:

The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you

probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"

checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Pinky]

Hi Annette,
I opened up a new Excel page and typed in some text in each cell. I did the
F2 key and it worked fine on my pc running the latest version of Jaws and
Excel 2010. If you open a new Excel and put something in the cells and then
try the F2 key does it work then? Just wondering if it is something to do
with the Excel sheet you are trying to do this in. Second thing the Excel
sheet you are trying to use is not in protective mode is it. Just drawing
straws for ideas.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, I make sure it is maximized.  I just updated my personal machine to the
Latest build of JAWS and I am waiting for a sample spreadsheet to arrive in
my mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
>
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
>
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more th

Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

[Mike B]

Hi Bob,

Sorry for calling you by the wrong name!  It sound like Jaws is saying, 
Reed, when it's really saying, RE!  LOL
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T 
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi Mike,
 Thanks for this info.  Unfortunately that did not work for me.
Thanks,
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Reed,

On my wife's Lenovo E540E, FN key + Escape, disables the function keys.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi All, I have a Lenovo B50-80 and need to change the function keys so that
I do not have to use the F/N key. I have only found ways to do this by going
into the BIOS. And I am thinking that someone gave directions on how to do
this without going that route. If anyone could push me in that direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Bob

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[JAWS-Users] Is there any documentation from FS about implementing a JAWS driver for a speech synthesizer

[BHW Toptoptop]

Hello all.
Does any one know if FS provides any documentation on how to implement a driver 
for JAWS, like ones shipped with the program (e.g. in the drivers folder)?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

[REGilman]

Hi Mike,
 Thanks for this info.  Unfortunately that did not work for me.
Thanks,
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 8:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Reed,

On my wife's Lenovo E540E, FN key + Escape, disables the function keys.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
Remember folks, it's tax time!  If you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T
H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message -
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi All, I have a Lenovo B50-80 and need to change the function keys so that
I do not have to use the F/N key. I have only found ways to do this by going
into the BIOS. And I am thinking that someone gave directions on how to do
this without going that route. If anyone could push me in that direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Bob

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[JAWS-Users] ATTN FS Hidden Text in Word

[Jean Menzies]

Hello all, and hopefully to any FS Staff on list. 

Starting with JAWS 16, JAWS was no longer able to read Hidden Text in Word. I 
went through the somewhat arduous task of documenting this and opening a ticket 
with FS Support. The issue was escalated beyond the initial evaluation of the 
problem, but sadly, JAWS still cannot read hidden text. This is now Version 
17.0.1806. I am using Word 2013. This is very easy for you to reproduce. Simply 
open Word, type some text, and hide it. Under Options, indicate that you want 
hidden text visible. JAWS will not read it. 

I gather this issue is not high on the priority list for FS, as it is not a 
sexy or much-used feature. But it does impact me and my ability to use, in 
particular, the Duxbury Word template, which depends heavily on the use of 
hidden text for braille coding. 

I realize I could once again open a Support ticket, but I’m not convinced that 
would make much difference in the outcome. I know companies do communicate with 
each other. In my humble opinion, it would be easy enough for FS to obtain a 
copy of the Duxbury Word template, and open a document based on that template. 
The problems would soon be apparent. Perhaps the problems are with the 
template, but the template creator says nothing has changed in that regard for 
years. The change has been something with JAWS starting with V16. 

I am putting this on a public list in hopes of just that, making my concern and 
frustration public. I would appreciate it if you would deal with this issue. 

Jean Menzies
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Annette Carr]

Yes, I make sure it is maximized.  I just updated my personal machine to the
Latest build of JAWS and I am waiting for a sample spreadsheet to arrive in
my mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
>
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
>
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and
> the arrow keys.
>
> My work around today was
>
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the
> corrected formula back into the cell.
>
>
> Annette
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works o

[JAWS-Users] JAWS on laptops with touch screens

[Jason White]

Hello JAWS users,

Have you had any experience with JAWS and Windows 10 on a laptop with a touch
screen? That is, the laptop would have both a full physical keyboard and a
touch screen.

If so, how effective do you find the touch interface as supported by JAWS, and
in what circumstances do you prefer to use the touch screen?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Cristóbal]

This update worked fine for me on both my machines, but I have experienced
this same issue every blue moon over the years. Indeed, updating the
authorization has always resolved it for me. 
It was stressful the first couple of times I encountered it, but after that,
it became just a random and slightly annoying glitch that's easily fixed. No
big deal really.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on
their computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are
being asked to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return
for you on that computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting
keys for you if necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[David Ferrin]

I guess that explains why my lap top is fine. Since I just did a clean
install of 10 on it the key I pulled down was only from last month. I see
now, from what I heard in the background the other day talking to John you
folks are quite busy.

If they weren't then they would probably be out playing in traffic which we
all should know is not safe. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on
their computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are
being asked to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return
for you on that computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting
keys for you if necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[David Ferrin]

I'll make a note on the index page where the link is posted to reflect this
information, as always documentation is a good thing.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

ok, then the author of the scripts is Ken A. Gould.



 Original Message 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 11:11:49 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

For the record, Mike nearly always credits his source. Often his
instructions end with the person's name if he hasn't already mentioned it at
the beginning. But it can be hard to keep track of the sources of the
information we get here on this list and elsewhere. I also try to
acknowledge my sources, but sometimes when I'm compiling and simplifying
notes, the sources get lost. Besides, when a non-techy like me passes along
directions, it's always someone else who did the real work. For example,
while I may have posted a set of scripts, someone else wrote them.
Strangely, it's rare that script authors get credit.

But yes, it's only fair to give credit where credit is due.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Yes Mike responded to my enquiry as to who sent him the scripts and he
stated it was you in fact. So my thanks goes to you as well.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Dave Carlson]

Have you maximized the Excel window? That's usually my problem.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Annette Carr" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010


Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid.
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )


Jonathan Cohn

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
>
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
>
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
>
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and
> the arrow keys.
>
> My work around today was
>
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the
> corrected formula back into the cell.
>
>
> Annette
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a
> cell without having to use the F2 key.
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Annette Carr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am using JAWS17 on a Windows7 machine with Excel2010.  The probl

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

[Annette Carr]

Hi All,

I just got around to calling FS Tech Support about the issues I am having in
Excel2010 with JAWS not reading the cell contents when using F2, and JAWS
not reading the various drop down lists in the Sort dialog box.  

I was told that I am the only one who is experiencing this problem.  They
cannot begin to assist me unless I am running the absolute most current
build of JAWS17 and I continue to have the problem.  Since I cannot update
JAWS on my work computer, I will make sure my personal computer is fully
updated and see if the problem still exists.

For those of you who have stated that you are having the same issues, please
call it into FS.  

Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 12:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

When you say that FS has provided "us" with 2 scripts, are you referring to
a specific group of users, or all JAWS users?

So, if the formula is in a buffer, can you edit it?

The List all formulas scares me.  The sheet I am working in currently has
over 3000 formulas.

I was not aware of an area above the grid for editing.  I'm wondering if I
navigate there with the JAWS cursor and then route PC to JAWS, if I could
then read and edit the entire formula.  Is there a command for jumping to
this area?  

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010

Yes, it appears that focus is still in the middle of the spreadsheet and not
in the editing field above the grid. 
Fortunately, FS provided us two scripts that should help. List all formulas
shift jaws f and read formula jaws control f2 twice ( once just reads and
twice puts the formula into a buffer. )  


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Annette Carr  wrote:
> 
> The Window is maximized.  I am beginning to wonder if the cell width 
> has anything to do with it, despite how crazy that sounds.  The actual 
> column is not very wide as the results of the formula are no more than
> 3 digits, and I think there is not a header wider than 6 characters.  
> If this turns out to be the problem, I'm in big trouble with my 
> sighted co-workers.  There are 15 columns of this data, and if each 
> one has to accommodate an almost 200 character wide chunk it will be a 
> very wide spreadsheet.  Plus, I can't imagine how a formula of that 
> size would be able to fit on the screen as one line of text.  As you
probably know, putting a check in the "wrap text"
> checkbox does not impact the cell as the formula level.
> 
> Annette
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 11:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> I wonder if you just need to make sure your Excel window is maximized?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Annette Carr" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 07:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> 
> The JAWS cursor did not read anything more then with the PC cursor and 
> the arrow keys.
> 
> My work around today was
> 
> Use F2 to get into the formula in the cell Select All and copy Paste 
> the cell contents into notepad Make the corrections Copy and paste the 
> corrected formula back into the cell.
> 
> 
> Annette
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:18 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> Hi Annette,
> When you have the pc cursor on the formula have you tried routing the 
> Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and then right arrowing across the 
> formula. Just a thought. I know that works on reading numbers in a 
> cell without having to use the F2 key.
> Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Annette Carr
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS17 Not Reading Information in Excel2010
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
> I am using JAWS17 on a Windows7 machine with Excel2010.  The problem 
> I'm about to describe did exist when using JAWS16, but if I was 
> persistent, I could eventually get JAWS to read the information I 
> needed.  Here is what is going on.
> 
> 
> 
> . JAWS will only read a portion of my formula from the beginn

Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[Mario]

ok, then the author of the scripts is Ken A. Gould.



 Original Message 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 11:11:49 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

For the record, Mike nearly always credits his source. Often his 
instructions end with the person's name if he hasn't already mentioned 
it at the beginning. But it can be hard to keep track of the sources of 
the information we get here on this list and elsewhere. I also try to 
acknowledge my sources, but sometimes when I'm compiling and simplifying 
notes, the sources get lost. Besides, when a non-techy like me passes 
along directions, it's always someone else who did the real work. For 
example, while I may have posted a set of scripts, someone else wrote 
them. Strangely, it's rare that script authors get credit.


But yes, it's only fair to give credit where credit is due.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Yes Mike responded to my enquiry as to who sent him the scripts and he
stated it was you in fact. So my thanks goes to you as well.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[Adrian Spratt]

For the record, Mike nearly always credits his source. Often his instructions 
end with the person's name if he hasn't already mentioned it at the beginning. 
But it can be hard to keep track of the sources of the information we get here 
on this list and elsewhere. I also try to acknowledge my sources, but sometimes 
when I'm compiling and simplifying notes, the sources get lost. Besides, when a 
non-techy like me passes along directions, it's always someone else who did the 
real work. For example, while I may have posted a set of scripts, someone else 
wrote them. Strangely, it's rare that script authors get credit. 

But yes, it's only fair to give credit where credit is due.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Yes Mike responded to my enquiry as to who sent him the scripts and he
stated it was you in fact. So my thanks goes to you as well.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Eric Damery]

All,

I know that this is happening for many users who have older ILM keys on their 
computers. Once you update the authorization this time, if you are being asked 
to, I'm quite certain that authorization issues will not return for you on that 
computer. And as always, we are happy to assist by resetting keys for you if 
necessary.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found that 
needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while up 
dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be careful with 
The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post 
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but they 
can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[David Ferrin]

Yes Mike responded to my enquiry as to who sent him the scripts and he
stated it was you in fact. So my thanks goes to you as well.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but
they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 latest up-date

[Geno9802]

I found the same with the 40 minute mode. Called FS TECH Support and found
that needed to install the long number or go to the internet of which while
up dating and FS Verified me and bingo.. In business.. Just had to be
careful with The steps in the up-dating.. Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll
post them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the
experience but they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[Mario]

and who sent Mike the scripts? might it have been me?
I just want to be recognized occasionally. no offense Mike.
 Original Message 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, Apr 8, 2016 7:20:05 AM EST
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll
post them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the
experience but they can't hurt I imagine.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I navigate to a specific time using Mp3 Direct Cut or alternative programs suggestions

[K. Washington]

Did you try re classing that child window? First make sure JAWS is 
focused on that particular child window, and press [Insert]+[7] 
(Above the [u] key) and re class that field as a "Edit" field. See if 
that fixes the issue.


At 05:04 AM 4/8/2016, you wrote:

Hi,

I am using the program MP3 Direct Cut to remove unwanted sections of
MP3's. It saves them without compressing the MP3 file again. The
program is mostly accessible and quick to load.

However, I am unable to work out how I can navigate to a specific time
in a MP3 file. There's a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl + p) that is supposed
to allow you to do this but I can't seem to type anything in the edit
field that appears.

Any help would be appreciated too resolve this or recommendations on
an alternative program.

Thank you

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Install of jaws 17.0.1806 caused all jaws versions to revert to 40 minute mode

[K. Washington]

I experienced the same issue this past Wednesday. Had to call 
FreedomScientific to have them reset my Authorization key count back 
to 3. Guess it's best to go download the entire executable archive 
from the FS website when a new build of JAWS is released. No more 
messing around with these smaller update patches for they seem to 
destroy any installed Authorization key on your hard drive during the 
update process.


At 07:16 AM 4/8/2016, you wrote:

Last night I installed version 17.0.1806 on my Lenovo laptop at home.
To my dismay I found I had run out of activations so I attempted to
switch back to version 16. I found that now all versions of jaws on
that laptop are running in 40 minute mode. I dom't remember this being
the case with other versions of jaws. Has anyone seen this behavior?

Kimber

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[JAWS-Users] end it all scripts

[David Ferrin]

Thanks to Mike who sent me the scripts for end it all this morning I'll post 
them shortly. I don't recall just how much they add to the experience but 
they can't hurt I imagine.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Install of jaws 17.0.1806 caused all jaws versions to revert to 40 minute mode

[Kimber Gardner]

Last night I installed version 17.0.1806 on my Lenovo laptop at home.
To my dismay I found I had run out of activations so I attempted to
switch back to version 16. I found that now all versions of jaws on
that laptop are running in 40 minute mode. I dom't remember this being
the case with other versions of jaws. Has anyone seen this behavior?

Kimber

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

[David Ferrin]

On my older Lenovo FN plus escape disables or enables the microphone and 
camera.


On this one I got last fall I still have not found an owners manual for so 
the FN combinations remain a mystery some what at least.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 8:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys

Hi Reed,

On my wife's Lenovo E540E, FN key + Escape, disables the function keys.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
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H E I R S".  That spells THEIRS!
- Original Message - 
From: REGilman

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 2:56 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Lenovo Function Keys


Hi All, I have a Lenovo B50-80 and need to change the function keys so that
I do not have to use the F/N key. I have only found ways to do this by going
into the BIOS. And I am thinking that someone gave directions on how to do
this without going that route. If anyone could push me in that direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update for JAWS17

[David Ferrin]

I placed my email address in this message for you to contact me directly. 
Hence forth the personal touch.


ow...@jaws-users.com


-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update 
for JAWS17


Hi David,
This is driving me crazy! I never realized how short 40 minutes is. I just
tried turning off JAWS 17 and run JAWS 16, but 17 keeps coming back to haunt
me. Is this a new feature of the new update? Where do I find this personal
touch you referred to? I can feel it coming now... The dreaded warning that
I only have 3 minutes left. Please help!!! Thanks.
Jo

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: April 07, 2016 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update
for JAWS17

This might require the personal touch so to speak.

ow...@jaws-users.com
David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jo Luland" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update
for JAWS17


No dongle. Guess it's ILM.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: April 06, 2016 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update
for JAWS17

Are you using a dongle or ILM to authorize JAWS?

-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I need some help with downloading the new update
for JAWS17

I just downloaded the new update for JAWS17, but it's the wrong one. I've
always had JAWS home edition; this one is JAWS PROFESSIONAL. At first, I
thought it would be ok, but when I was told I was operating in demo mode, I
knew it really wasn't what I want. I redownloaded the link and, of course,
the same thing happened, but this time it told me right from the start that
I would be operating in demo mode. How do I get out of this mess? Please,
please somebody help! This demo mode is extremely annoying. All suggestions
will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks.
Jo


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS Tab Key Announcing Query, Please Ignore, I Have Sorted It

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
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[JAWS-Users] how do I navigate to a specific time using Mp3 Direct Cut or alternative programs suggestions

[a]

Hi,

I am using the program MP3 Direct Cut to remove unwanted sections of
MP3's. It saves them without compressing the MP3 file again. The
program is mostly accessible and quick to load.

However, I am unable to work out how I can navigate to a specific time
in a MP3 file. There's a keyboard shortcut (Ctrl + p) that is supposed
to allow you to do this but I can't seem to type anything in the edit
field that appears.

Any help would be appreciated too resolve this or recommendations on
an alternative program.

Thank you

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 And Tab Key

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

Probably being a bit stupid but can anyone give me the steps to turn off the 
announcing of the tab key please?
I Have gone in to the keyboard manager and select the default configuration but 
I can't see how to turn off the tab key from there.

Many thanks in anticipation,



Steven Hicks
Servicedesk 2 team Leader
Cornwall I.T. Services (CITS)
Office:  01209 318620
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